Industrial Advisors

podcast@industrialadvisors.com (Industrial Advisors)

Supply chain nerds, warehouse gurus, distribution dudes, transportation titans, site selection geeks… No one knows the industrial real estate market better than Colliers International's Matt McGregor and Bill Condon. Tune into their Industrial Advisors' show to find out what you don't know about the market behind the market.

  1. May 8

    Washington's Millionaires Tax: What It Could Mean for Wealth, Tech, and Commercial Real Estate

    Washington's Proposed Millionaires Tax (SB 6346) and the "Seattle Tax Stack": Mechanics, Migration, and Real Estate Impacts Industrial Advisors Podcast hosts Bill Condon and Matt McGregor discuss Washington's proposed "Millionaires Tax," SB 6346, a 9.9% tax on household income above $1 million, noting it can effectively hit dual-income households and "lumpy" stock-based compensation. They describe a cumulative Seattle "tax stack" (9.9% state, 5% social housing, 2.4% JumpStart, 0.58% WA Cares) exceeding 18% before federal taxes, potentially reaching 55–60% total, and argue it could influence jobs, investment, sports free agents, and real estate demand, including taxation of Washington-sourced income for nonresidents. Using an AI-generated deep dive built from documents, the episode compares migration and revenue dynamics in New York and California, explains domicile-planning timelines, highlights QSBS (Section 1202) as a potential shelter, and emphasizes the risk that the $1 million threshold could be lowered, especially if tech valuations fall and projected revenues miss. 0:00 Cold open: the $1M household threshold 0:46 Introduction to Washington's proposed millionaires tax 2:08 RSUs, deferred income, and one-time tax events 3:10 Seattle's 18% local tax stack explained 5:31 Commercial real estate and Washington-sourced income 7:00 Investor demand, property values, and economic ripple effects 8:01 Why Bill and Matt used AI for this episode 10:15 AI deep dive: tax flight and wealth migration 11:19 Washington as a national tax policy test case 14:32 Revenue projections and the 21,000 filer base 15:22 The Seattle tax stack breakdown 16:50 Federal taxes and the 55%–60% combined burden 18:47 The real estate exemption in SB 6346 19:37 Lessons from Los Angeles Measure ULA 22:57 Luxury housing demand and high-net-worth buyer risk 24:11 2028 effective date and relocation planning 26:35 RSUs and "lumpy vesting" risk for tech workers 28:05 The marriage penalty in the proposed tax structure 30:06 QSBS as a potential shelter for founders 33:13 California, New York, and wealth migration data 36:38 Remote work and the new mobility of high earners 38:47 Why the $1M threshold may not stay fixed 41:04 Massachusetts and the risk of expanding the tax base 43:29 Tech market correction risk and revenue shortfalls 44:32 Final takeaway: the "leaky bucket" problem 45:06 Closing comments

    45 min
  2. May 1

    Growth vs. Regulation: The Future of Industrial Real Estate

    NAIOP Washington on Industrial Development: Changing Perceptions, Policy Headwinds, and an Economic Impact Study  Bill Condon and Matt McGregor host NAIOP Washington guests Drew Zaborowski (Bear Creek Real Estate Development) and Carter Nelson (NAIOP WA) to discuss challenges facing industrial development in the state of Washington. They describe persistent misconceptions that industrial means outdated, polluting factories and growing anti-industrial rhetoric driving local dock-door restrictions, size limits, and moratoriums often enacted without data on lost tax revenue. Key headwinds include broad, vague environmental justice policies that can shift responsibility for past impacts to new developers, the 2021 energy code adding roughly $5 per square foot through electrification, EV-ready parking, solar, and testing requirements, as well as the grid-capacity limits that force costly infrastructure upgrades. They highlight Pierce County as constructive to work with and explain NAIOP's industrial economic impact study (available on NAIOP WA's website) as a data tool to counter "low-wage job" claims and support advocacy, funding, and member involvement. 0:00 Introduction to the guests and NAIOP WA 2:15 Drew Zaborowski's background and role in government affairs 5:05 Legislative headwinds and anti-industrial rhetoric 7:45 Environmental justice and the burden on new development 10:15 Debunking the low wage job myth in industrial sectors 12:50 Modern facilities vs the old factory perception 15:10 The impact of the 2021 energy code on development costs 18:25 Power grid capacity and utility challenges 20:45 Success stories in Pierce County and Frederickson 22:15 The NAIOP Industrial Economic Impact Study 23:00 How to get involved and support advocacy efforts

    23 min
  3. Apr 10

    Panattoni Development: The State of PNW Industrial Markets

    Industrial Advisors Podcast: Travis Hale on Pacific Northwest Industrial Development, Class A Flight to Quality, and Land/Entitlement Challenges On this episode of the Industrial Advisors podcast, Bill Condon and Matt McGregor interview Travis Hale, partner at Panattoni Development, about Pacific Northwest industrial development. Hale describes a continued flight to "new" Class A product, noting that 2015-era Class A can now be first-gen and may see rent declines while brand-new Class A is pushing rents. He outlines Panattoni's I-5 corridor activity across Washington, Oregon, and Idaho, citing roughly 14 million SF across 34 Seattle-office projects, about five new starts this year, and key developments including Fred310 in Frederickson, Des Moines Creek/Seattle Gateway near SeaTac, and Mount Vista in Ridgefield/Vancouver. They discuss market vacancy (about 10% Seattle, 6.8% Portland), big-box demand, tight land supply, multi-year entitlements, improving equity conditions, and the organizational impact of Bart Brynestad's retirement and his "get it leased" philosophy. 0:00 The flight to quality in industrial real estate 2:45 Introducing Travis Hale and Panattoni Development 5:30 Current projects and the big box market outlook 8:15 Understanding vacancy rates and rent growth 11:00 Land competition and the entitlement process 14:30 Pioneering new markets and job distribution 17:45 The state of equity and capital markets 20:15 Regional trends and the legacy of Bart Brynestad

    23 min
4.8
out of 5
22 Ratings

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Supply chain nerds, warehouse gurus, distribution dudes, transportation titans, site selection geeks… No one knows the industrial real estate market better than Colliers International's Matt McGregor and Bill Condon. Tune into their Industrial Advisors' show to find out what you don't know about the market behind the market.

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