Industry Inner Join

DR Analytics Recruitment

Industry Inner Join is the community lifting data literacy across Australia. Hosted by Douglas, a former data analyst and founder of DR Analytics Recruitment, the show features real, unfiltered conversations with data leaders across industry. It’s built for early to mid-career professionals who want to grow their skills, navigate the data world and hear the kind of advice you won’t find in a course or textbook. Douglas started Inner Join to share the insights he wishes he had earlier in his career - straight from the people who’ve been there. Proudly sponsored by DR Analytics Recruitment,

  1. 4d ago

    13: Engineer to Enterprise Architect: Darryl Wells on AI, Privacy and Building Teams

    In this episode, Doug sits down with Darryl Wells, a Perth leader in building data platforms, digital products and enterprise architecture at BHP, to unpack what it actually takes to run data and AI at enterprise scale, and why the human side of the job matters just as much as the technical side. With a career spanning software engineering, consulting and leadership roles before moving into enterprise architecture and eventually building out BHP's data engineering and enablement capability from the ground up, Darryl brings a rare view across the full stack, from strategy down to the nuts and bolts. Doug and Darryl cover the questions that matter most right now:- What actually separates solution architecture, enterprise architecture and data architecture from each other;- Why AI engineers have evolved out of the traditional data scientist role and what that shift really looks like day to day;- How BHP is navigating the line between probabilistic AI solutions and problems that genuinely need to stay deterministic;- Why explainability was the biggest unlock from his Master's in AI, and how it directly improved his model results;- and what Australian Privacy Principle 6 means for agentic AI systems making their own calls on how to use personal data. They also go deep on the bigger picture; the T-shaped skills debate between generalists and specialists, why soft skills are becoming just as critical as technical depth, how to keep your hands on the tools as you move into leadership, and whether AI is heading for a boom or a bust in the years ahead. Whether you're an aspiring data leader, someone weighing up specialising versus generalising or a data professional trying to figure out where privacy law needs to catch up to AI, this one's got plenty of takes! Want to learn more about Industry Inner Join? Industry Inner Join is a community initiative that brings together Perth data and AI professionals to connect and share industry insights. Our aim is to uplift data literacy across Perth and Australia. We host quarterly in-person and online events, bringing together analysts, engineers and data leaders from across industries to share knowledge and build community. Powered by DR Analytics Recruitment - helping businesses hire top data talent. Building people | Building community | Building businesses

    13: Engineer to Enterprise Architect: Darryl Wells on AI, Privacy and Building Teams
  2. Jun 25

    11: Law to Data Leader: Tim Sondalini on Squiggly Careers, Hackathons and Building Teams

    In this episode, Doug sits down with Tim Sondalini, Head of Data & Analytics at Perth Airport, to explore what happens when a law graduate with a civic heart finds his calling at the intersection of technology and problem-solving and never really stops building things on the side. With a career spanning management consulting at Deloitte, data team builds at Water Corporation and Hesperia, and now Perth Airport, Tim brings a refreshingly squiggly perspective on what it actually takes to lead in the data space without ever having been a programmer. Doug and Tim cover the questions that matter most right now: Why translation skills beat technical depth when building and hiring data teams;How the $1 Sprint compresses an entire innovation cycle into 90 minutes;What the printing press can teach us about surviving the AI revolution;and why information governance is the most underrated career move a senior analyst can make.They also go deep on the bigger picture; whether AI is a net good, how open source models are quietly becoming the scariest thing in the room, why the demo beats the memo every single time and the advice Tim gives to anyone trying to carve out a career in data without a traditional path. Whether you're a data professional gunning for your first leadership role, a builder obsessed with getting to market fast or someone figuring out how to stay relevant in a world that changed again last weekend, this one's got plenty of takes! Want to learn more about Industry Inner Join? Industry Inner Join is a community initiative that brings together Perth data and AI professionals to connect and share industry insights. Our aim is to uplift data literacy across Perth and Australia. We host quarterly in-person and online events, bringing together analysts, engineers and data leaders from across industries to share knowledge and build community. Powered by DR Analytics Recruitment. Building people | Building community | Building businesses

    11: Law to Data Leader: Tim Sondalini on Squiggly Careers, Hackathons and Building Teams
  3. May 21

    10: CPO to AI CEO: Kevin Brown on Self-Learning Surveillance, AI Strategy and Doing What Lights You Up

    In this episode, Doug sits down with Kevin Brown, CEO of Icetana AI. An ASX-listed self-learning surveillance software company built right here in Perth, to explore what happens when you put serious AI behind thousands of cameras, and what that means for safety, privacy and the future of security operations. With a career spanning IT leadership, product and operations across VGW and beyond, Kevin brings refreshingly unfiltered take on building AI-powered technology, scaling a global business from Perth and navigating the ethical edge of surveillance tech. Doug and Kevin cover the questions that matter most right now: how Icetana's anomaly detection is already preventing slip-and-fall claims worth hundreds of thousands of dollars, why the Bondi attack exposed a systemic gap in how we monitor public spaces, what an AI operating system actually looks like inside a leadership team and why Kevin runs an uncensored LLM at home just to get an unfiltered answer. They also go deep on the bigger picture; AI alignment risks, longevity escape velocity, whether AI will create more jobs than it destroys and the advice Kevin gives his own sons about building a career in a world that's changing faster than any of us can track. Whether you're a data or AI professional, a founder navigating scale or someone just trying to figure out where to place your bets, this one's got plenty takes! Want to learn more about Industry Inner Join? Industry Inner Join is a community initiative that brings together Perth data and AI professionals to connect and share industry insights. Our aim is to uplift data literacy across Perth and Australia. We host quarterly in-person and online events, bringing together analysts, engineers and data leaders from across industries to share knowledge and build community. Powered by DR Analytics Recruitment; helping businesses hire top data talent. Building people | Building community | Building businesses

  4. Apr 23

    9: Banker to Head of AI: Jess Kuan on Domain Knowledge, Hiring and AI Adoption

    In this episode, Doug sits down with Jess Kuan, Head of Data and AI at P&N Bank, to unpack what it really takes to build a career at the intersection of data, technology and business. With nearly 20 years in financial services, spanning complaints, collections, frontline sales, back-office processing, and product management before landing in data and AI - Jess brings a rare perspective shaped by time spent actually doing the work. They cover the career questions that matter most right now: why domain knowledge is still a competitive edge in a world of AI-generated code, what Jess actually screens for when hiring (spoiler: it's not your SQL skills) and how P&N Bank has rolled out tools like Snowflake Intelligence to put self-serve analytics in the hands of business users. Whether you're a junior analyst trying to break in, a hiring manager rethinking your process, or a data leader navigating AI adoption, this one's packed with practical insight. Want to learn more about Industry Inner Join? Industry Inner Join is a community initiative that brings together Perth data professionals to connect and share industry insights. Our aim is to uplift data literacy across Perth and Australia. We host quarterly in-person and online events, bringing together analysts, engineers, and data leaders from across industries to share knowledge and build community. Powered by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠DR Analytics Recruitment⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - helping businesses hire top data talent. Building people | Building community | Building businesses

    9: Banker to Head of AI: Jess Kuan on Domain Knowledge, Hiring and AI Adoption
  5. Mar 19

    8: Astrophysics to CIO: Milan Raicevic on Data Science, AI and Career Growth

    Join Douglas Robertson, Director at DR Analytics Recruitment, as he sits down with Milan Raicevic - CIO at RMT Technologies - former astrophysicist turned data leader. Milan’s journey spans continents and disciplines: from studying computational cosmology in the UK and Europe, to early data science roles in the US and now leading technical teams and products in Australia. In this conversation, he shares how that background shaped his view of data, why problem-solving beats tool selection every time, and how AI is reshaping (but not replacing) modern data roles. In this episode, we cover: Moving from academia into industry data rolesWhy 'solve real problems' is still the best career adviceHow AI tools are changing coding, analysis and workflowsWhat hiring managers look for in a fast-moving tech landscapeBuilding products and teams in a startup-style environment Milan also shares practical advice for data professionals: follow problems you care about, build real understanding of the domain, and use AI as a tool and not a crutch. If you work in data, analytics, engineering or AI, or you’re trying to build a durable, future-proof career in this space, this episode offers a clear, no-hype perspective on where things are heading next. Want to learn more about Industry Inner Join? Industry Inner Join is a community initiative that brings together Perth data professionals to connect and share industry insights. Our aim is to uplift data literacy across Perth and Australia. We host quarterly in-person and online events, bringing together analysts, engineers, and data leaders from across industries to share knowledge and build community. Powered by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠DR Analytics Recruitment⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - helping businesses hire top data talent. Building people | Building community | Building businesses ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Learn more about us and our events here.⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow us on LinkedIn.⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Be sure to leave us a rating and subscribe!

    8: Astrophysics to CIO: Milan Raicevic on Data Science, AI and Career Growth
  6. Feb 19

    7: From Accountant to Principal Consultant: Gerard McCarthy on Leadership, Hiring and Consulting

    If you’re building a career in data, or thinking about making the move into consulting, this episode is for you. Join Douglas Robertson, Director at DR Analytics Recruitment, as he sits down with Gerard McCarthy - former Head of Data & Analytics at Pioneer Credit and now Principal Consultant at Bailey Abbott. Gerard’s journey spans 20 years: from accountant at EY, Bankwest and iiNet, to leading a 20-person data team inside an ASX-listed financial services company, and now helping grow a fast-scaling consultancy in WA. In this conversation, he shares what it actually takes to bridge finance, data and executive decision-making, and why leadership in analytics is more about trust and empathy than technical brilliance. In this episode, we cover: Moving from accounting into data Leading a high-performing team of engineers, analysts and data scientists The shift from internal leadership to client-facing consulting What hiring managers really look for (beyond the CV) Consulting vs in-house data roles, and who suits each path Gerard also shares practical advice for aspiring data professionals: take broad opportunities, learn the business you serve and don’t underestimate the value of empathy in technical roles. If you work in data, analytics, BI, engineering, AI, or you’re considering a move into consulting, this episode offers a grounded perspective on how careers in this space actually unfold and where the industry is heading next. Want to learn more about Industry Inner Join? Industry Inner Join is a community initiative that brings together Perth data professionals to connect and share industry insights. Our aim is to uplift data literacy across Perth and Australia. We host quarterly in-person and online events, bringing together analysts, engineers, and data leaders from across industries to share knowledge and build community. Powered by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠DR Analytics Recruitment⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - helping businesses hire top data talent. Building people | Building community | Building businesses ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Learn more about us and our events here.⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow us on LinkedIn.⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Be sure to leave us a rating and subscribe!

    7: From Accountant to Principal Consultant: Gerard McCarthy on Leadership, Hiring and Consulting
  7. Jan 28

    6: Data Leader in the AI Boom: Andy Maher on ROI, Adoption and Workflow Integration

    If you’re navigating the space between business and data, exploring AI at work, or trying to understand how analytics actually delivers value, this episode is for you. Join Douglas Robertson, Director at DR Analytics Recruitment, as he sits down with Andy Maher, Manager of Digital and Data at IGO. Andy’s career spans law, retail, entrepreneurship, field IT work and analytics leadership, giving him a rare perspective on why so many data initiatives stall, and what it really takes to bridge the gap between business problems and technical solutions. In this episode, we cover: Why business/data tension exists (and how to reduce it) What 'value' actually means in analytics, AI and data teams AI productivity gains vs real ROI on the P&L Adoption, semantic layers and the future beyond dashboards What hiring managers really look for in data and analytics roles How early-career analysts can build 'intangible' skills that accelerate growth Mentorship, community and why curiosity beats tools every time If you work in data, analytics, AI, BI, engineering, or you’re a business leader trying to get more from your data investments, this conversation will give you a grounded, real-world lens on where the industry is heading! Want to learn more about Industry Inner Join? Industry Inner Join is a community initiative that brings together Perth data professionals to connect and share industry insights. Our aim is to uplift data literacy across Perth and Australia. We host quarterly in-person and online events, bringing together analysts, engineers, and data leaders from across industries to share knowledge and build community. Powered by ⁠⁠⁠⁠DR Analytics Recruitment⁠⁠⁠⁠ - helping businesses hire top data talent. Building people | Building community | Building businesses ⁠⁠⁠⁠Learn more about us and our events here.⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow us on LinkedIn.⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠Be sure to leave us a rating and subscribe!

    6: Data Leader in the AI Boom: Andy Maher on ROI, Adoption and Workflow Integration

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Industry Inner Join is the community lifting data literacy across Australia. Hosted by Douglas, a former data analyst and founder of DR Analytics Recruitment, the show features real, unfiltered conversations with data leaders across industry. It’s built for early to mid-career professionals who want to grow their skills, navigate the data world and hear the kind of advice you won’t find in a course or textbook. Douglas started Inner Join to share the insights he wishes he had earlier in his career - straight from the people who’ve been there. Proudly sponsored by DR Analytics Recruitment,