Invisible Strength

Karin Wagner and Chris Burton

We discuss the realities of living with Lupus and other autoimmune diseases while exploring realistic solutions to improve our lives while navigating autoimmune diseases. We discuss helpful tips and tricks to manage symptoms and proactively improve our health trajectory. We're here for support, laughs, and grace as we figure out these diseases together! www.invigorateyourjourney.com

  1. FEB 25

    The Emotional Weight of Chronic Illness: Why You’re Exhausted, Anxious & Overwhelmed | Featuring Dr. Jessica Grove

    You're managing your symptoms, attending appointments, pushing through — but nobody warned you about the emotional weight of chronic illness. The grief. The identity loss. The trauma of just trying to get a diagnosis.In this episode of the Invisible Strength Podcast, licensed clinical psychologist Dr. Jessica Grove joins hosts Karin Wagner and Chris Burton to break down the psychological side of living with autoimmune disease and chronic illness — and the practical tools you can use TODAY to start healing.🔑 What you'll learn:✔ Why chronic illness is traumatic (even if no one calls it that)✔ The mind-body connection and how your nervous system drives flare-ups✔ How to stop the "push-crash cycle" that's destroying your energy✔ Grief work for the life you thought you'd have✔ Why toxic positivity makes things worse — and what to do instead✔ How to identify the hidden narratives keeping you stuck (like "I'm broken")✔ Self-compassion tools for exercise, nutrition, and daily life with chronic illness✔ When you're not ready for therapy — and where to start anyway💬 Whether you have lupus, MS, fibromyalgia, Crohn's, Hashimoto's, POTS, or any other chronic or invisible illness, this conversation is for YOU.👉 JOIN OUR FREE MONTHLY SUPPORT GROUPS:Living with chronic illness is hard. You don't have to do it alone.🔗 https://calendly.com/invigorateyourjo...🌿 WORK WITH US at Invigorate Your JourneyCoaching, community, and support for people navigating autoimmune + chronic conditions.🔗https://invigorateyourjourney.com/🔗 Connect with Dr. Jessica Grove:Website: healthandmedicalpsychology.comFree consultation available | Licensed in 43 states via PSYPACT📌 CHAPTERS:00:00 Introduction to Chronic Illness and Psychology02:08 The Emotional Toll of Chronic Illness06:03 Approaches to Emotional Processing09:18 Understanding Medical Stress12:25 Coping with Unpredictability14:48 The Role of Therapy in Chronic Illness18:17 Daily Practices for Emotional Well-being20:04 Self-Compassion on Hard Days22:26 Long-term Success in Therapy24:56 Small Steps for Mental Health28:22 Recognizing the Need for Therapy30:37 Differentiating Stress and Trauma37:24 Challenging Negative Narratives🌿 Need Support Living With Chronic Illness?Invigorate helps people with chronic conditions move from fear & overwhelm → to clarity, steadiness, and a life that feels like YOU again.💙 Connection💧Guidance ✨Transformation ➡️https://www.invigorateyourjourney.com🎧 Subscribe for MoreHonest conversations about invisible illness, resilience, and thriving despite the hard days.Hit the 🔔 so you never miss an episode.#ChronicIllness #AutoimmuneDisease #InvisibleIllness #LupusWarrior #ChronicPain #MentalHealth #ChronicIllnessCommunity #NervousSystemHealing #InvisibleStrength #HealthPsychology #MindBodyConnection #AutoimmuneHealing #FibroWarrior #ChronicFatigue #InvigorateYourJourney #SelfCompassion #ChronicIllnessSupport #LivingWithLupus #HashimotosThyroiditis #AutoimmuneWellness⚠️ Disclaimer: This content is for general education and shared lived experiences only. It is not medical advice. Always consult your healthcare team before making changes to your treatment or lifestyle.

    41 min
  2. FEB 18

    Running Against the Odds: Marion Jones' Journey with NMO

    What does it take to rebuild your life after a rare autoimmune disease leaves you partially paralyzed during a global shutdown? Today’s guest, Marion Jones, shows us what invisible strength really looks like.Diagnosed with neuromyelitis optica (NMO) during the COVID-19 pandemic, Marion faced misdiagnosis, isolation, nerve damage, and the grief of losing the life she once knew. But her story doesn’t end there.Marion went from 30 seconds of walking to running 7 world-major marathons—New York, Chicago, London, Berlin, and soon Tokyo and Boston—raising awareness for rare diseases every mile of the way. 🏃🏾‍♀️✨She is now a powerful advocate, speaker, and upcoming author sharing her mission to inspire resilience, visibility, and hope for the chronic illness community.If you need a reminder that small steps can lead to unbelievable transformation, this episode is it. 💙⭐ IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN:✔️What it’s really like to be diagnosed with NMO during the pandemic✔️How Marion rebuilt strength after partial paralysis✔️Why she shifted from grief to gratitude✔️The mindset that carried her through 7 marathons in 2 years✔️How to balance chronic illness with career, ambition, and rest✔️Why advocacy matters—and how your story can help others✔️The meaning of “invisible strength” in the face of adversity🕒 CHAPTERS00:00 – Welcome + Intro to Marion Jones01:31 – The Diagnosis: Understanding NMO09:30 – From 30 Seconds to Marathons17:28 – Shifting Grief to Gratitude22:02 – Advocacy, Community & Chronic Illness Visibility31:50 – Marion’s Book + What’s NextSUPPORT MARION’S MARATHON MISSION: Help Marion raise funds for life-changing care at Lahey Hospital and Medical Center: https://www.givengain.com/project/mar...Every donation supports research, patient care, and rare disease advocacy.💬 JOIN THE CONVERSATIONWhat does your invisible strength look like today?Drop your thoughts in the comments—your story could inspire someone who needs it.🎧 LISTEN TO THE INVISIBLE STRENGTH PODCASTHosted by Karin Wagner & Chris Burton, ‪@baddestchaplain‬, spotlight real stories of resilience from people living with chronic illness and autoimmune diseases.🌿 Need Support Living With Chronic Illness?Invigorate helps people with chronic conditions move from fear & overwhelm → to clarity, steadiness, and a life that feels like YOU again.✨ Rebuild your life → 🌟 Top Picks → Support Groups → Coaching ↓ ➡️https://www.invigorateyourjourney.com💙 Connection💧Guidance ✨Transformation🎧 Subscribe for MoreHonest conversations about invisible illness, resilience, and thriving despite the hard days.Hit the 🔔 so you never miss an episode.⚠️ Disclaimer: This content is for general education and shared lived experiences only. It is not medical advice. Always consult your healthcare team before making changes to your treatment or lifestyle.

    42 min
  3. FEB 11

    💜 Seizing Success with Epilepsy: Olivia Atkin’s Invisible Strength Journey

    💜 In this episode of the Invisible Strength Podcast, Olivia Atkin shares how a childhood epilepsy diagnosis reshaped her life—and ultimately fueled her work as an entrepreneur, TEDx speaker, and founder of Achieving Success. From navigating an invisible illness to working with the New York Giants, launching a business, and redefining success on her own terms, Olivia reminds us:You can build a life you love, even when your health rewrites the rules. If you live with epilepsy, chronic illness, or you’re chasing big goals while managing real challenges, this conversation will resonate deeply. 💙 What You’ll Learn: ✔️ How epilepsy shaped Olivia’s resilience and identity✔️ Why vulnerability is a leadership strength✔️ What people don’t see about invisible illness✔️ How to set goals without burning out✔️ Self-compassion practices for chronic illness✔️ The mindset shifts that helped Olivia thrive✔️ How to redefine success when life pivots✔️ Encouragement for anyone newly diagnosed Key Moments:00:00 Intro00:54 Diagnosis & Athletic Dreams07:24 The Drive Behind Her Success14:08 Bullying, Shame & Resilience20:23 Resetting Goals After Setbacks22:44 Military Spouse Life25:53 Boundaries & Work-Life Balance32:58 Balancing Health + Ambition40:05 Vulnerability as Strength ✨ Rebuild your life → 🌟 Top Picks → Support Groups → Coaching ↓ ➡️https://www.invigorateyourjourney.com💙 Connection through Monthly Free Support Groups: Save your spot here. 💧Guidance through individual and group coaching: Discover more here. ✨Transformation: Start here.🎧 Subscribe for More!Honest conversations about invisible illness, resilience, and thriving despite the hard days. Hit the 🔔 so you never miss an episode. Invigorate helps people move from fear and overwhelm → to clarity, steadiness, and a life that feels like YOU again.Explore tools, support groups, and coaching:https://www.invigorateyourjourney.com @AchievingSuccessWithOlivia Special thanks to Co-Host Chris Burton (@baddestchaplain) This podcast is for education and shared experiences only and is not medical advice. Always consult your healthcare team before making changes to your care. ⚠️ Disclaimer This podcast is for education and shared experiences only and is not medical advice. Always consult your healthcare team before making changes to your care.

    43 min
  4. FEB 4

    Rachel’s Story: Living With MS, Type 1 Diabetes & Finding Invisible Strength

    Rachel Hayden, host of the SpoonFull Podcast, shares her journey living with both MS and Type 1 Diabetes. From a six-year diagnostic search to navigating identity, energy, and mental health, Rachel opens up about the invisible strength required to live with multiple chronic illnesses. She reflects on learning to ask for help, pacing her energy, and rebuilding her sense of self—while raising compassionate kids and building community for spoonies everywhere. In This Episode:• MS & Type 1 Diabetes diagnosis journeys• Emotional and mental health challenges• Energy pacing, self-care, and realistic goals• How chronic illness reshapes identity & relationships• Why asking for help is honoring your body• Creating the SpoonFull Podcast & advocating for others Connect:SpoonFull Podcast – @TheSpoonFullShowKarin – @unseenyetunstoppableinvigorateyourjourney.com 🔔 Subscribe & ListenSubscribe for honest conversations about:✅Autoimmune disease✅Chronic illness life✅Medical gaslighting✅Healing, resilience & identity🌿 Could You Use Support Living With Autoimmune Disease?We help people move from fear and overwhelm → clarity, resilience, and hope.Explore tools, resources, and coaching designed for real life:👉 https://www.invigorateyourjourney.comP.S. You're NOT alone. ⁠Message us⁠ to discover how we can help you on your journey, or e-mail us at contact@invigorateyourjourney.com">⁠contact@invigorateyourjourney.com⁠Disclaimer: This episode shares lived experience and is not medical advice.

    39 min
  5. JAN 28

    She Gave Her Father a Kidney: A Powerful Family Story of Resilience | Invisible Strength Podcast

    A father. A daughter. One life-saving decision.In Season 5 of the Invisible Strength Podcast, hosts Karin Wagner and Chris Burton sit down with Paul and Tianna Butler to share an extraordinary true story of kidney disease, organ donation, faith, and resilience.Paul’s health declined quietly—until he was faced with kidney failure and the long, uncertain transplant waitlist. When the search for a donor began, his daughter Tianna made a life-changing choice: to donate her kidney and give her father a second chance at life.Together, Paul and Tianna open up about the emotional, physical, and spiritual journey of living with kidney disease, becoming a donor, and navigating life after transplant—with honesty, vulnerability, and hope.💙 What You’ll Learn in This Episode:✔️ The role of family support during major health crises✔️ The emotional weight of being both a donor and recipient✔️ What to expect during the kidney transplant process✔️ Post-transplant care, recovery, and unexpected challenges✔️ How faith, prayer, and resilience shape the healing journey✔️ Why asking for help and community support truly matter✔️ The importance of kidney health awareness and preventionThis conversation shines a light on the thousands of people waiting for organ transplants—and offers hope to families walking a similar path.💡 Whether you’re living with chronic illness, supporting a loved one, or curious about organ donation, this episode is deeply moving, educational, and real.⏱️ Chapters (Watch What Matters Most to You)00:00 Introduction to a Family Journey01:11 Health Decline and Diagnosis05:09 The Decision for a Kidney Transplant08:36 The Search for a Donor13:00 Surgery Day: Anticipation and Emotions16:21 Post-Transplant Life and Adjustments17:37 Navigating Post-Transplant Care20:04 Coping with Uncertainty and Support Systems21:57 Physical Recovery and Regaining Strength23:53 Emotional Journey and Surprises24:46 Facing Health Challenges: The BK Virus26:31 The Gift of Life: Reflections on Donation28:20 Pressure and Responsibility of Recovery28:33 Life After Transplant: Returning to Normalcy29:49 Resilience Through Adversity30:43 Key Moments of Reflection33:07 The Importance of Awareness and Asking for Help🌿 Living With Autoimmune or Chronic Illness?We help people move from fear and overwhelm → to clarity, resilience, and hope.Access tools, resources, and coaching built for real life:➡️ https://www.invigorateyourjourney.com🔔 Subscribe for honest conversations about chronic illness, autoimmune life, organ donation, and invisible strength.💬 Comment below: What part of this story resonated with you most?🎧 Tune in, warm up, and remember — your knowledge is your Invisible Strength. Additional Kidney & Organ Donation Resources➡️ National Kidney Foundation: https://www.kidney.org➡️ Donate Life America: https://www.donatelife.net➡️ United Network for Organ Sharing (UNOS): https://unos.org➡️ Living Donor Information: https://www.organdonor.gov⚠️ DISCLAIMER: This content is for educational purposes and shared experiences only and is not medical advice. Always consult a qualified healthcare professional before making changes to your care or treatment plan.

    42 min
  6. JAN 14

    Doing Everything Right Wasn’t Enough: The Reality of Autoimmune Disease

    What happens when you do everything right—eat clean, train hard, manage stress—and your body still breaks?In this remarkable episode of the Invisible Strength Podcast, hosts Karin Wagner and Chris Burton,  @baddestchaplain , sit down with Krissy Ward, a clinical nutritionist and autoimmune advocate, to unpack her 20-year journey with chronic illness, medical gaslighting, and the long road to real answers.For years, Krissy was told her symptoms were anxiety, IBS, burnout, or “just stress.” She was misdiagnosed, dismissed, and handed Band-Aid solutions—until a life-threatening allergic reaction in New York became the turning point that finally led to accurate diagnoses of Rheumatoid Arthritis (RA) and Hashimoto’s disease.This episode dives deep into:➜The emotional toll of being told it’s “all in your head”➜How medical gaslighting delays diagnosis in autoimmune disease➜Why autoimmune illness is about more than labs—it’s about identity➜Navigating healthcare across different cultures and countries➜The grief of losing your old self—and learning to accept a new pace➜The realities of treatment, including biologics and methotrexate➜Why chronic illness does not define who you areIf you’re living with autoimmune disease, chronic illness, or are still searching for answers, this conversation will make you feel seen, validated, and less alone.🧠 Key Takeaways✅Chronic illness does not define your worth or identity✅The path to diagnosis can take years—and persistence matters✅Emotional health and physical health are deeply connected✅Cultural differences can impact how symptoms are treated and believed✅Finding the right doctor can be life-changing✅Acceptance is not giving up—it’s a form of strength⏱️ Chapters00:00 Introduction to Krissy’s Journey01:30 Life Before Chronic Illness03:08 The Long Road to Diagnosis09:37 Healthcare & Cultural Differences14:19 Autoimmune Disease & Identity22:48 Acceptance, Grief & Slowing Down32:17 The New York Turning Point46:58 Misdiagnosis & Finding Answers51:29 Healing, Treatment & Freedom🌿 Could You Use Support Living With Autoimmune Disease?We help people move from fear and overwhelm → clarity, resilience, and hope.Explore tools, resources, and coaching designed for real life:👉 https://www.invigorateyourjourney.com🔔 Subscribe & ListenSubscribe for honest conversations about:✅Autoimmune disease✅Chronic illness life✅Medical gaslighting✅Healing, resilience & identity🎧 Tune in and remember: Your knowledge is your Invisible Strength.⚠️ DisclaimerThis content is for education and shared experiences only and is not medical advice. Always consult a qualified healthcare professional before making changes to your care or treatment plan.

    54 min
  7. 12/10/2025

    Your Pain Isn’t From Your Joints?! Dr. David Clarke Explains Neuroplastic Pain & Real Healing

    If you’ve ever been told “your tests are normal” or “we can’t find anything wrong,” this episode is for you. 🎙️ In this powerful conversation, Dr. David Clarke, MD — Gastroenterologist, author, and President of the Association for the Treatment of Neuroplastic Symptoms — breaks down the real science behind chronic pain, stress, trauma, and how the brain can generate (and heal) physical symptoms. 🌟 This episode will change how you understand pain. Dr. Clarke has treated over 7,000 patients whose symptoms didn’t respond to traditional medicine. His work reveals why 1 in 5 adults experience medically unexplained symptoms — and why healing is possible even when imaging shows “nothing wrong.” 💥What You’ll Learn: ✅Why pain doesn’t always come from joints or tissues ✅How the brain can confuse and amplify pain signals ✅What neuroplastic symptoms are — and how they mimic chronic illness ✅The link between childhood adversity and adult autoimmune symptoms ✅Why some people stay “stuck” in the medical system ✅How new neuroplastic therapies outperform CBT (63% vs 17% pain relief!) ✅Safe, affordable strategies you can start today ✅The most empowering mindset shifts for autoimmune warriors 🧠 About Dr. David Clarke Dr. Clarke is a leading expert in neuroplastic pain, blending decades of work in psychology, gastroenterology, and mind-body medicine. (Full bio below.) He speaks globally to medical audiences and leads the nonprofit dedicated to ending the chronic pain epidemic. 📚 Get Dr. Clark's Book: They Can’t Find Anything Wrong 🌐 Learn more: symptomatic.me ⏱️ Chapters 00:00 Intro – Why Your Pain Might Not Be Physical 04:17 Mindfulness, Stress & The Pain Response 06:33 Illness, Relationships & Communication 08:58 Lifestyle Shifts & Finding Purpose 11:22 Mental Health Practices That Help 13:48 Community, Connection & Support 💬 Join the Conversation Have you ever experienced symptoms doctors couldn’t explain? Do you think stress or trauma has affected your health? Share your experience below — your story might help someone else. ❤️‍🩹 🌿 Could You Use Support Living With Autoimmune Disease? We help people with chronic illness move from fear and overwhelm → to clarity, resilience, and hope. Get tools, resources, and coaching made for real life at:👉 https://www.invigorateyourjourney.com‪ 🔔 Subscribe for honest conversations about chronic illness, autoimmune life, and finding strength in the journey. 🎧 Tune in, warm up, and remember — your knowledge is your Invisible Strength. Our guest today is Dr. David Clarke, President of the Association for the Treatment of Neuroplastic Symptoms (ATNS), a 501(c)(3) nonprofit dedicated to ending the chronic pain epidemic. Dr. Clarke holds an MD from the University of Connecticut School of Medicine, and is Board-certified in Internal Medicine and Gastroenterology. His organization’s mission is to advance the awareness, diagnosis, and treatment of stress-related and brain-generated medical conditions. As host of the podcast “The Story Behind the Symptoms," Dr. Clarke delves into the origins of patients’ unexplained symptoms. Learn more at Symptomatic.Me. Welcome, Dr. Clarke. What are neuroplastic symptoms, and how do they differ from those caused by injury or disease? ⚠️ DISCLAIMER: This content is for general education and shared experiences only and is not medical advice. Always consult a qualified healthcare professional before making changes to your care or treatment plan.

    40 min
  8. 12/03/2025

    The Mindset Shift That Saved Her Life: Felicity’s RA + Chronic Fatigue Journey

    When rheumatoid arthritis, chronic fatigue, and central sensitization syndrome (CSS) took over Felicity’s life, she reached a breaking point. Then one mindset shift changed everything. In this powerful, raw, and unexpectedly funny interview, Felicity @the_dead_arthritic reveals how a radical, research-backed approach helped her rewire her brain, reduce her symptoms, and rebuild her life—one tiny daily habit at a time. If you’re living with chronic illness, autoimmune disease, or fatigue that never seems to end… THIS is the episode that will make you feel seen. 💛 ⭐ What You’ll Learn (Don’t Skip These) ✅The brain rewiring technique that helped Felicity change her fatigue ✅Why the Mayo Clinic’s CSS program was “the mindset shift that saved her life.” ✅The truth about RA fatigue vs. chronic fatigue (and why doctors miss it) ✅What happened when she stopped talking about her symptoms ✅The real reason she left her career as a veterinarian ✅How she rebuilt purpose with tiny 5-minute habits ✅Why positivity isn’t toxic—it’s strategic ✅The wildest “cures” people suggested (yes… gin-soaked raisins 🤣) ✅What “Invisible Strength” means when no one sees your struggle ⏱️ Chapters: 00:00 Introduction to Felicity's Journey 04:17 The Power of Positive Thinking and Mindfulness 06:33 Navigating Relationships and Communication During Illness 08:58 Lifestyle Changes and Finding Purpose 11:22 Mental Health and Daily Practices 13:48 Building Community and Support 16:35 Invisible Strength and Resilience 18:22 The Role of Humor and Positivity 20:46 The Importance of Holistic Approaches 23:12 Facing Challenges and Overcoming Stigma 25:18 Connecting with Others and Sharing Experiences 27:33 Conclusion and Resources 🌿 Could You Use Support Living With Autoimmune Disease? We help people with chronic illness move from fear and overwhelm → to clarity, resilience, and hope. Get tools, resources, and coaching made for real life at: https://www.invigorateyourjourney.com 🔔 Subscribe for honest conversations about chronic illness, autoimmune life, and finding strength in the journey. 🎧 Tune in, warm up, and remember — your knowledge is your Invisible Strength. 💪 ⚠️ DISCLAIMER: This content is for general education and shared experiences only and is not medical advice. Always consult a qualified healthcare professional before making changes to your care or treatment plan.

    39 min

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We discuss the realities of living with Lupus and other autoimmune diseases while exploring realistic solutions to improve our lives while navigating autoimmune diseases. We discuss helpful tips and tricks to manage symptoms and proactively improve our health trajectory. We're here for support, laughs, and grace as we figure out these diseases together! www.invigorateyourjourney.com