it is RUFF out there Kelly & Kim

We welcome Gloria to our podcast today to talk about a book she has written and is in the process of publishing about her dog Teddy Bear. She shares with us the raw emotions of what it feels like losing a beloved dog. In her honesty and straightforward chat, we learn that so many people  can  be helped who have lost a pet. We talk about the cultural lack of compassion that dog owners sometimes receive from family, work, friends + when grieving a pet and we hope to one day to end the stigma of pet loss. 

Gloria recorded a LIVE Instagram of this episode, if you'd like to see us in action, you can find us at gloria.herdt
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Jeremy Cohen from Boston Dog Lawyers records with us again and we are so very honored! We asked our community for questions to ask Jeremy and he answers them all. We touch upon Ollie's Law:
https://www.mspca.org/animal_protection/ollieslaw/?fbclid=IwAR21BnACWTRpTiscMhqqfxukGMfU_dLgmTSIqbtzLI4pftPCG-5S9rXPKyM&mibextid=S66gvF
and other important dog law issues. 
We chat about fence gate safety, dog bites, Dangerous Dog Hearings, being a responsible dog owner, rabies vaccines, dog custody issues. 
What the heck is chattle? 
You can reach Boston Dog Lawyers at: 
www.bostondoglawyers.com 
844-DOG-ATTY 

We thank you for listening. 
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We take a little trip to the gorgeous area of Concord MA to meet up with Bija to chat about her bees! While there we found a stunning garden, lots of birds at the feeders and learning about how important bees are to our lives, community and environment. Bija is not only a dedicated bee keeper, but a stunning bag maker and quilter & turtle rescuer. 

You can follow Bija on instagram at bijas_bees
www.bijasbees.com 

Please DO NOT use pesticides, it kills the precious bees 🐝 


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Matt Brand is in the studio with us to chat about the menagerie of pets he has at his home. We learn that Kelly knows a great deal about fish and Kim's favorite car song growing up was "We Built This City" by Starship. This is a totally fun & random episode as we weave in thoughts from our growing up in the 1980s. 

Is Matt and his family ready for a puppy? You decide. 


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Susan and her amazing staff welcomed us to her store called Wild Birds Unlimited in Sudbury MA. She has been at this location for over 30 years. This place is dangerous folks, in a good way, as there are so many great things to buy! Susan also owns another store in Woburn MA. 

Backyard feeding of birds is so fun. Check out their info at: www.sudbury.wbu.com & www.woburn.wbu.com

HOT items for the Winter: Hot Pepper Bird Food, helps with squirrels 

Be seasonally savvy when feeding wild birds. In the Winter they need more FAT.  Water is also very important to provide for wild birds for their overall health. 

Kelly & Kim went shopping after the podcast....guess what they picked up? 

Thank you for listening!
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We welcome Susan, Co-Founder & Paula, Foster Mom from 
Guardian Angels Cat Rescue 
to discuss CATs! 
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