23 episodes

A podcast in which a guy with “some college” and a day job asks experts questions about biblical studies.

It Means What It Means itmeanswhatitmeans

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A podcast in which a guy with “some college” and a day job asks experts questions about biblical studies.

    Episode 22: Mourning for Tammuz in Ezekiel 8 with William S Morrow

    Episode 22: Mourning for Tammuz in Ezekiel 8 with William S Morrow

    In this episode, Jared talks to William Morrow about his article “Mourning for Tammuz: Prophecy and Projection in Ezekiel 8:14” from The Journal of Biblical Literature. Recommendations made include the Society of Biblical Literature website, Bible Odyssey, Biblical Archaeological Review, American Theological Library Association, Review Biblical Literature, Ancient World Online, and Ian Rankin’s Rebus books. Click here to find out where you can follow the podcast.

    • 47 min
    Episode 21: The Faithful Son in Hebrews 1:3b with Jonathan Rowlands

    Episode 21: The Faithful Son in Hebrews 1:3b with Jonathan Rowlands

    Jonathan Rowlands, a theology lecturer, discusses the book of Hebrews and its themes. He explains that Hebrews is a unique text in the New Testament, and its genre and authorship are still debated. The book emphasizes Jesus as a high priest and his role in atonement. Rowlands explores different readings of Hebrews 1:3b and how they impact the understanding of the text. He also discusses the importance of Jesus' pre-crucifixion life in the overall message of Hebrews. In this conversation, Jonathan Rowlands discusses his research on the book of Hebrews and the sacrificial system. He explains that the sacrifice Jesus offers in the heavenly temple is not his death on the cross, but the totality of his obedient life. The author of Hebrews is primarily concerned with what Jesus is doing now, present tense, as a high priest. There are glimpses of a broader renewal of all things, including heaven and earth, in the book. Rowlands recommends reading the works of David Moffat and Matthew Thiessen for further insights into Hebrews and biblical studies.

    • 1 hr 15 min
    Episode 20: Unitarian Evangelicals and the Faith of Jesus with Curtis Freeman

    Episode 20: Unitarian Evangelicals and the Faith of Jesus with Curtis Freeman

    In this episode, Jared talks to Curtis Freeman about his essay “The Faith of Jesus Christ: An Evangelical Conundrum” from the book Beyond Old and New Perspectives on Paul: Reflections on the Work of Douglas Campbell. Recommendations made include James William McClendon, Glen Butner, Fred Sanders, NT Wright, Richard Hays, and Mark A Noll features prominently in the conversation. Reach out with feedback at itmeanswhatitmeans@gmail.com, on Twitter, Bluesky, Facebook, Instagram, Spoutible, or check out the podcast Linktree.

    • 1 hr 4 min
    Episode 19: Liberating Paul's Gospel with Jon DePue

    Episode 19: Liberating Paul's Gospel with Jon DePue

    In this conversation, Jon DePue discusses the main themes of his book Beyond Justification: Liberating Paul’s Gospel with Jared. They explore the concept of Paul's gospel as a gospel of life and liberation, moving beyond the traditional understanding of justification. They discuss the cosmic scope of Paul's gospel and the importance of the afterlife in Paul's thinking. They also delve into the alternative gospel proposed by justification theorists and the significance of Jewish practices in Paul's theology. In this conversation, Jon and Jared discuss the overcorrection in Second Temple Judaism studies and the need for a theological perspective. They highlight the pre-Sanders scholars who were already challenging traditional interpretations of Paul. They also address the resistance to covenantal nomism and the failure of some theologians to find a different path. The seriousness of describing Judaism in a negative light is emphasized, along with the implication of Christianity in historical atrocities against Jews. The conversation concludes with a discussion on the dialogues in Romans and recommended resources on Paul and Second Temple Judaism. Books referenced in the conversation include Deliverance of God, A Jewish Paul, The Fall of Númenor, Silence, and his forthcoming book with Wipf and Stock Publishers.
    Takeaways
    Paul's gospel is a gospel of life and liberation, going beyond the traditional understanding of justification.
    The cosmic scope of Paul's gospel includes the redemption of the entire cosmos, not just individual moral actors.
    The afterlife is important in Paul's thinking, but he is more concerned with the present reality of the new age and the ethical implications of the gospel.
    The alternative gospel proposed by justification theorists focuses on individual moral actors and their salvation through faith in Christ, often disregarding Jewish practices and traditions. There was an overcorrection in Pauline studies that needed to be addressed.
    Pre-Sanders scholars were already challenging traditional interpretations of Paul.
    Some theologians failed to find a different path and resisted the idea of covenantal nomism.
    Describing Judaism in a negative light is a serious issue that needs to be addressed.
    Christianity is implicated in historical atrocities against Jews and needs to be reckoned with.
    The dialogues in Romans provide insight into Paul's response to certain problem people.
    There are recommended resources available for a better understanding of Paul and Second Temple Judaism.
     

    • 59 min
    Episode 18: Re-remembering Hagar with Haley Gabrielle

    Episode 18: Re-remembering Hagar with Haley Gabrielle

    In this episode, Jared talks to Haley Gabrielle about her article “Re-remembering Hagar: Reading Σάρξ in Galatians with Spillers” from the Journal of Biblical Literature. Recommendations made include Shively Smith, Randall Bailey, Gay Byron, Vanessa Lovelace, Mitzi Smith, Sharon Jacob, Dolores Williams, and (I added) Gale Yee. 
    Reach out with feedback at itmeanswhatitmeans@gmail.com, on Twitter, Bluesky, Facebook, Instagram, Spoutible, or check out the podcast Linktree.

    • 1 hr 5 min
    Episode 17: America's Book with Mark A Noll

    Episode 17: America's Book with Mark A Noll

    Mark A. Noll discusses his book America's Book: The Rise and Decline of a Bible Civilization, 1794 to 1911. He shares his motivation for writing the book and explains that it is a continuation of his research on the use of the Bible in American history. Noll highlights the entrepreneurial and free-form nature of religion in America, particularly in relation to the production and use of the Bible. He also explores the role of learning Greek and Hebrew in America and the presence of anti-intellectualism in American Christianity. Noll concludes by discussing the diverse perspectives and communities in biblical interpretation in America. In this conversation, Mark Noll discusses different approaches to the Bible, including the dominant Enlightenment view and the narrative-focused approach of African-American communities. He also explores the decline of dispensationalism and the role of the Bible in the debate over slavery. Noll highlights the changing significance of the Bible in the 20th century and recommends books on these topics. Overall, the conversation provides insights into the historical and cultural contexts that shape interpretations of the Bible.
    Reach out with feedback at itmeanswhatitmeans@gmail.com, on Twitter, Bluesky, Facebook, Instagram, Spoutible, or check out the podcast Linktree.

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