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A podcast by a UFO nerd and his tolerant friend. Because if UFOs are real… what else? If any of this turns out to be true, it's a very exciting time!

It's a Very Exciting Time Scott Vandehey & Chuck Lauer Vose

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A podcast by a UFO nerd and his tolerant friend. Because if UFOs are real… what else? If any of this turns out to be true, it's a very exciting time!

    05. Recommendations for UFO books, videos, etc

    05. Recommendations for UFO books, videos, etc

    Chuck's out sick this week, so I've got a mini-episode for you. If you've enjoyed the topic so far, you might be interested in going a bit further. If so, here are some books, TV series, documentaries, and podcasts that I'd recommend.


    In Plain Sight: An investigation into UFOs and impossible science by Ross Coulthart, 2021 — Came out just before 2021 UAP report, feels like a good summary
    UFOs: Generals, Pilots and Government Officials Go On the Record by Leslie Kean, 2010 — Covers nuts-and-bolts credible witnesses
    The Believer: Alien Encounters, Hard Science, and the Passion of John Mack by Ralph Blumenthal, 2021 — Explores how a well respected Harvard psychiatrist risked his career to study abductees and experiencers
    Sekret Machines: Chasing Shadows (fiction) by Tom DeLonge and A.J. Hartley, 2016 — Interesting insight into what Tom believes. NOT recommended: Sekret Machines non-fiction series


    Unidentified: Inside America's UFO Investigation, by History Channel, 2019 — The TTSA series focused on Lou Elizondo and Chris Mellon
    Hangar 1: The UFO Files, by History Channel, 2014 — Netflix series that goes over famous cases in MUFON files
    UFO by JJ Abrams, 2021 — A four-part Showtime series, good summary


    The Phenomenon by James Fox, 2020 — Well-regarded in the UFO community as a summary
    Ariel Phenomenon by Randall Nickerson, 2022 — Covers a famous incident at the Ariel School in Zimbabwe
    Unacknowledged, by Michael Mazzola, 2017 — A bit breathless, but decent summary of what Steven Greer believes
    Bob Lazar: Area 51 & Flying Saucers by Jeremey Corbell, 2018 — Perhaps overly credible, but interesting


    The UFO Rabbit Hole, by Kelly Chase — Easily my favorite, Kelly is a great speaker, and thoughtful
    Point of Convergence, by ExoAcademian — Get ready to go deep and weird
    Need to Know, by Ross Coulthart and Bryce Zabel — Excellent discussion of UFO news by investigative journalists

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    04. Bob Lazar

    04. Bob Lazar

    Bob Lazar is arguably the most controversial figure in the world of UFOs. In a nutshell, Bob is a whistleblower who came out in 1988 with claims that he worked in a reverse engineering program for recovered alien craft that are kept at Area 51. Today we're going to get into it: Who is Bob, what does he claim, why did he come forward, and what are the points that make him more or less credible. Because if anything Bob claims is true? …It's a very exciting time!


    Bob Lazar’s site
    Jeremy Corbell documentary
    Joe Rogan interview (I know, I know, Joe Rogan is awful. But the interview is quite good and you get to hear from Bob firsthand)
    Bob Lazar: Area 51 & Flying Saucers, Explained
    Robert Bigelow clears the air about Bob Lazar
    Bob Lazar Says the FBI Raided Him to Seize Area 51's Alien Fuel. The Truth Is Weirder
    Bob Lazar Speaks Out About Area 51 And S-4
    Bob Lazar's story, is it believable?
    Google Maps: Area 51

    • 1 hr 9 min
    03. The Admiral Wilson Memo

    03. The Admiral Wilson Memo

    The Admiral Wilson Memo — aka, The Wilson-Davis Notes, The Core Secrets Memo, etc — is a document that records an alleged conversation between astrophysicist Dr. Eric Davis and Admiral Wilson, the recently retired director of the DIA. They discuss Wilson's attempts to locate a secret UFO program in the military, which he found, and was denied access to. The document is controversial to say the least, but the story is fascinating, and if it's true, reveals the existing of a secret crash retrieval and reverse engineering program!


    Complete Summary of Wilson Davis Memo
    ‘UFO leak of the century’ contained in 15-page document, historian says
    The Amazing Wilson-Davis Documents
    Stanford Prof. & US Navy Vet’s Claims Might Prove Wilson-Davis UFO Memo Is Authentic
    The Wilson-Davis Memo is Authentic

    • 1 hr 7 min
    02. Tom DeLonge

    02. Tom DeLonge

    We're talking about how all the big UFO news we discussed in our last episode — from the 2017 New York Times article to congressional hearings — can be traced back to Tom Delonge. Yes, that Tom DeLonge. The lead singer of Blink 182. Buckle up, this one's a wild ride.


    Politico: How Harry Reid, a Terrorist Interrogator and the Singer From Blink-182 Took UFOs Mainstream
    UFO Rabbit Hole: Mr. DeLonge Goes to Washington, part 1
    UFO Rabbit Hole: Mr. DeLonge Goes to Washington, part 2
    That UFO Podcast: Tom DeLonge Profile, part 1
    That UFO Podcast: Tom DeLonge Profile, part 2

    • 58 min
    01. Why are we recording a podcast about UFOs?

    01. Why are we recording a podcast about UFOs?

    "Really? You wanna be the UFO guy?" Yeah, actually, I do! Because I think most people don't understand that since 2017 there has been a rapid increase in astonishing information about UFOs. From the 2017 New York Times article disclosing the existence of a secret Pentagon UFO program, to the release of confirmed Navy videos of UFOs, to Congress demanding an annual report about what the military knows about UFOs, to the recent proposal to grant immunity to UFO program whistleblowers — there's been a LOT!

    When I was growing up, UFOs were treated as a joke. News reports would include the X-Files theme, and anyone talking about the subject seriously would get teased about "little green men." But that seems to be changing. More and more, the topic is taken seriously.

    And the thing is, once you accept, as Congress and the Pentagon seem to have, that there are unidentified craft flying around the sky… what else is real? If it's true? It's a very exciting time!


    New York Times 2017: Glowing Auras and ‘Black Money’: The Pentagon’s Mysterious U.F.O. Program
    New York Times 2019: ‘Wow, What Is That?’ Navy Pilots Report Unexplained Flying Objects
    Politico 2019: Senators get classified briefing on UFO sightings
    Politico 2020: Senators want the public to see the government's UFO reports
    New York Times 2020: No Longer in Shadows, Pentagon’s U.F.O. Unit Will Make Some Findings Public
    June 2021 ODNI: Preliminary Assessment: Unidentified Aerial Phenomena
    Politico 2021: ‘This is urgent’: Bipartisan proposal for UFO office pushes new boundaries
    Politico 2022: Pentagon getting more UFO reports now that 'stigma has been reduced'
    War Zone 2022: UFO Whistleblowers Would Get Immunity Under New Amendment
    Motherboard 2022: Congress Admits UFOs Not ‘Man-Made,’ Says ‘Threats’ Increasing ‘Exponentially’

    • 1 hr 14 min
    Bonus: Chuck and Scott get their giggles out

    Bonus: Chuck and Scott get their giggles out

    A delight for the senses!

    • 55 sec

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