It’s Both — Living in the Messy Middle

If you feel a shift happening but can't name what it is — this podcast is for you. A podcast about anxiety, life transitions, and living in the messy middle. Maybe nothing major happened, but you don't recognize yourself anymore. Or maybe you're navigating divorce, a diagnosis, faith transition, or identity shift. Either way, every hard human experience has something in common: you lose who you were before you know who you're becoming. That gap? That's the messy middle. The messy middle is a transition. The feeling that lives inside it? That's anxiety. I'm Nikki P., a former therapist who built this show because I needed it myself — and realized other people did too. Every week, I have honest conversations with people living in the gap — holding joy and grief, gratefulness and struggle, certainty and uncertainty — all at the same time, without pretending any of it isn't real. No toxic positivity. No fix-it mentalities. Just real language for the feelings you couldn't name, and permission to be exactly where you are. This is for people in the messy middle who need real talk, not empty platitudes. Life isn't either/or. It's both. And you're allowed to hold all of it. New episodes weekly. Find me @itsbothpodcast.