keywords cybersecurity, culinary arts, penetration testing, career transition, high-pressure situations, horror films, IT, social engineering, cooking, cybersecurity horror, dark web, pen testing, B-Sides community, cybersecurity, lifestyle polygraph, music, childhood memories, culinary skills, competition takeaways Kathy Collins transitioned from IT to culinary arts and back to cybersecurity. Her journey highlights the transferable skills between cooking and cybersecurity. Physical penetration testing involves unpredictable human elements. High-pressure situations in cooking can prepare one for cybersecurity challenges. Unexpected challenges can arise in both culinary events and cybersecurity tests. The importance of communication in cybersecurity engagements is crucial. Kathy's experience in cooking for large groups parallels the complexities of cybersecurity. The need for proper notification in penetration testing to avoid misunderstandings. Kathy's culinary background influences her approach to problem-solving in cybersecurity. There is a lack of big-budget horror films focused on cybersecurity. Going with the correct skeptical mindset is crucial. Using tools like Flare helps in dark web monitoring. B-Sides events are affordable and beneficial for newcomers. Engaging with the community fosters excitement and learning. Hannibal Lecter would be an interesting pen test partner. The Jaws soundtrack sets a perfect mood for stealth. Bonding over music can strengthen family relationships. Childhood toys can reveal early hacker tendencies. Culinary skills can be approached with a hacker mindset. Competition in cooking shows often emphasizes drama over skill. summary In this episode of the No Password Required podcast, host Jack Clabby and co-host Kaylee Melton welcome Kathy Collins, a security consultant at Secure Ideas. Kathy shares her unique journey from working in IT to pursuing a culinary career, and then back to cybersecurity. The conversation explores the transferable skills between cooking and cybersecurity, the unpredictability of physical penetration testing, and the high-pressure situations faced in both fields. Kathy also recounts memorable experiences from her culinary career and discusses the lack of horror films centered around cybersecurity. In this engaging conversation, the speakers delve into various aspects of cybersecurity, including the use of the dark web in penetration testing, the importance of community events like B-Sides, and the fun of the Lifestyle Polygraph segment. They also share personal anecdotes about music, childhood memories, and culinary skills, creating a rich tapestry of insights and experiences in the cybersecurity field. titles From Chef to Cybersecurity: A Unique Journey The Culinary Path to Cybersecurity High Stakes: Cooking and Cybersecurity Under Pressure Penetration Testing: The Culinary Connection Sound Bites "I had to do some soul searching." "I was like, what if I have to do..." "It's disturbingly easy." "There are so many opportunities there." "Going with the correct skeptical mindset." "We have a tool that we use called Flare." "They should attend them, first of all." "I had an Easy Bake Oven and took it apart." Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Cybersecurity and Culinary Journeys 02:46 From IT to Culinary Arts: A Unique Transition 06:02 The Shift Back to Cybersecurity 09:00 Experiences in Physical Penetration Testing 11:48 High-Pressure Situations: Cooking vs. Cybersecurity 15:02 Unexpected Challenges in Culinary Events 17:54 The Intersection of Horror and Cybersecurity 23:32 Exploring the Dark Web in Pen Testing 25:34 Engaging with the B-Sides Community 27:09 The Lifestyle Polygraph: Fun and Games 31:09 Bonding Over Music and Childhood Memories 34:17 Culinary Skills and Competition Insights