Kingdom ROI

Eric L. Dunavant, Chris Callahan
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Stop the Heist. Reclaim the Legacy. Build for 100+ Years. There’s a silent wealth heist happening in America—one that erodes legacy through distraction, short-term thinking, and systems built on scarcity. The Kingdom ROI Podcast is where we expose that system—and offer something better. Hosted by Eric L. Dunavant and Chris Callahan, two kingdom-minded entrepreneurs helping leaders realign their faith, family, fitness, and finances—not just for short-term gains, but for 100+ years of generational abundance and impact.

  1. 12/10/2025

    S4:E10 Advisors Won’t Tell You This About Inheritance Planning

    Resources and Next Steps: 📖 Learn more about Kingdom ROI → https://kingdomroi.org/ 🎯 Find Out More About the Kingdom Operating System: https://www.launchkingdomos.com ✅ Take The Great Wealth Assessment! →https://linktr.ee/kingdomroi We are living in the largest wealth transfer in human history — over $140 trillion in the U.S. alone. Potentially $300 trillion globally! But here’s the painful truth: 90% of families will fail to preserve their wealth across three generations. Why? Because good optimization isn’t good enough anymore. Taxes, legal strategies, and investments can’t fix what’s broken. 💥 This isn’t just about money. It’s about values, relationships, and intentional legacy planning. In this episode of the KROI Podcast, Christopher Callahan and Eric L. Dunavant expose what most financial advisors won’t tell you — and how the top 10% of families are breaking the cycle and building 100+ years of impact. 🎯 In This Video, You’ll Discover: ✔️ Why traditional estate planning is setting families up to fail ✔️ The shocking stats behind generational wealth loss (70% fail in Gen 2, 90% in Gen 3) ✔️ The truth about "lifetime inheritance" vs. post-death bequests ✔️ How unconscious manipulation is embedded in the advisory industry ✔️ The Kingdom ROI formula that redefines legacy: Relationships × Optimization = Intention ✔️ The critical conversations your advisor isn't having — and how to start them now ✔️ How to raise financially wise children and avoid entitlement ✔️ Why your legacy must be passed before you're gone ✔️ Real examples of families creating impact for generations — and how you can join them 🕒 Timestamps 0:00 - What Do You Want for Your Kids? 0:40 - The $140 Trillion Transfer 1:50 - Are You Being Robbed? 2:40 - Why Families Fail at Wealth 4:10 - Advisors Are Missing This 5:30 - Lifetime vs. After-Death Inheritance 7:00 - Inheritance Done Wrong 9:00 - Legacy That Actually Matters 10:30 - Speak Into Their Future 12:00 - Is Your Advisor Biased? 13:40 - Building 100-Year Impact 15:00 - What the Top 10% Do 16:30 - Prodigal Son & Entitlement 17:40 - Let Them Fail 19:00 - Real Family Conversations 20:10 - Failing Kids in Their 20s 21:00 - What Do You Really Want? 23:30 - Gen Z Giving Story 25:00 - Family Values in Action 26:20 - Inheritance Isn’t Fair 27:40 - God's Wealth Rules 28:30 - Make Your Business Last 29:20 - Free Book: Bistro with Bob Tags to Help Others Find This Video: generational wealth planning, lifetime inheritance, relational wealth, estate planning for high net worth families, legacy family planning, wealth transfer strategy, how to build generational wealth, values-based estate planning, inheritance failure rate, Kingdom ROI, wealth preservation strategies, Christian financial planning, how to talk to kids about money, multi-generational family legacy, legacy vs inheritance Hashtags: #GenerationalWealth #EstatePlanning #LegacyMatters #WealthTransfer #KingdomROI #FamilyLegacy #WealthHeist #HighNetWorth #IntentionalLiving #ValuesDrivenWealth

    30 min

  2. 11/10/2025

    How Bad Money Advice Almost Ruined Our Marriage

    Watch Part 1 here: https://youtu.be/Q42mA458ARI Resources and Next Steps: 📖 Learn more about Kingdom ROI → https://kingdomroi.org/ 🎯 Find Out More About the Kingdom Operating System: https://www.launchkingdomos.com ✅ Take The Great Wealth Assessment! →https://linktr.ee/kingdomroi What happens when the American Dream starts feeling like a nightmare? In this raw and powerful episode of the Kingdom ROI Podcast, Christopher Callahan continues the conversation with Eric L. Dunavant and Angel Dunavant open up about the early years of their marriage — five moves in two years, unexpected tax debt, career pivots, spiritual struggles, and the pursuit of wealth that almost cost everything. If you're a high-achieving couple balancing kids, money, business growth — or you're nearing retirement and thinking about the legacy you'll leave behind — this story will hit home. In this episode, you'll discover: What really happens when you move 5 times in 2 years (hint: your taxes and marriage suffer) The spiritual cost of chasing wealth and identity through money Why Eric walked away from a higher salary and company car (and what happened next) How one unexpected book completely redirected their financial future When God shows up in the budget (even when you're $200 short every month) What legacy means when you're building something that lasts beyond wealth 🕒 Timestamps 0:00 - The Lettuce Story 1:20 - The Wrong Name Call 2:30 - Ice Cream Pre-Date 3:40 - Oops, Marriage Talk 4:10 - Baggage & Backgrounds 5:00 - Dreaming of Riches 6:40 - Redefining Success 7:50 - Money Tensions Begin 8:10 - First Jobs & Big Moves 9:30 - Moving Madness 10:30 - Life Timeline Fast-Track 11:40 - LA Culture Shock 12:30 - People Are People 13:20 - Marriage Under Pressure 14:00 - $7K Tax Bomb 15:20 - Faith Gets Tested 16:40 - Thank You, God 17:20 - Identity Crisis 18:20 - Finance Calling 20:10 - Schwab Breakthrough 21:30 - Sacrifice Season 23:00 - Big Pay Cut 24:40 - Night Shifts & Grit 25:30 - Beating the Odds 26:40 - Business Dreams 27:40 - Money as a God 28:30 - Y2K Chaos 30:00 - Faith & Frustration 31:30 - Healing Begins 33:00 - $200 Short 34:00 - God’s Take on Money 35:00 - Letting Go Tags to Help Others Find This Video: faith and finances, Christian financial planning, legacy wealth planning, biblical money principles, married and broke, early marriage money mistakes, financial testimony, debt story Christian couple, spiritual identity and money, money stress marriage, Christian couple story, moving too often, God and money, leaving corporate career, faith-based financial journey Hashtags: #FaithAndMoney #ChristianFinance #LegacyPlanning #MoneyTestimony #MarriageAndMoney #BiblicalFinance #FinancialFreedom #GodProvides #MoneyAsAnIdol #DebtToLegacy #ChristianCouple

    39 min

  3. 10/08/2025

    S4:E8 You're Neglecting Your Marriage By Ignoring This

    Take The Great Wealth Heist Assessment Today! https://linktr.ee/kingdomroi In this episode of the Kingdom ROI Podcast, Eric Dunavant unpacks the Kingdom ROI Method—a proven framework for protecting your family’s legacy for 100+ years of abundance and impact. The truth? Less than 10% of families succeed in preserving their wealth across generations. Why? Because most get distracted by financial optimization alone, neglecting the deeper foundations of relationships and intention. In this episode, Eric shares powerful stories, including lessons from his grandmother’s legacy, his own family practices, and how business owners can avoid falling victim to the Great Wealth Heist—the silent erosion of generational wealth. ⏱️ Timestamps 00:00 – The $140 Trillion Wealth Transfer & the Great Wealth Heist 02:00 – What is the Kingdom ROI Method? (Relationships × Optimization = Intention) 05:00 – Can any family build 100+ years of abundance—or just the wealthy? 07:00 – Legacy lessons from Eric’s grandmother & grandfather 09:00 – Why focusing only on optimization leads to scarcity & fear 12:00 – The hidden cost of neglecting relationships 14:00 – Stephen Covey’s “Begin With the End in Mind” & biblical principles 16:00 – How the world distracts you with optimization while robbing your legacy 18:00 – Business ownership, family, and applying the ROI formula 20:00 – Why optimization must follow relationships & intention 22:00 – Kingdom ROI’s “Sunrise” & “Quest” experiences for families & teams 24:00 – How the Great Wealth Heist Assessment exposes relational gaps 26:00 – Practical family practices: Weekly intentional calls with Eric’s kids 29:00 – Why this is a true heist: You don’t see it happening until it’s too late 30:00 – Final call: Take the assessment & guard your 100+ year legacy

    32 min

  4. 09/24/2025

    S4:E7 The Journey from Bankruptcy to Stability | KROI Podcast

    Take The Great Wealth Heist Assessment Today! https://linktr.ee/kingdomroi In this heartfelt episode of the Kingdom ROI Podcast, Eric and Angel Dunavant open up about their personal stories of faith, family, loss, and legacy. From the challenges of empty nesting to the deep influence of Eric’s grandmother, Alice, they reveal how God used both chaos and stability to shape their journey. This is the beginning of a powerful multi-episode series exploring their testimony, family history, and the pursuit of 100+ years of abundance and impact. Timestamps: 00:00 – Introduction with Christopher Callahan 01:00 – Launching kids to college & entering the empty nester season 02:00 – Why Eric & Angel are sharing their story in depth 03:00 – Eric’s early life in West Texas & small-town upbringing 04:00 – Family challenges: illness, separation, and loss of his mother 05:00 – Bankruptcy, moving homes, and the chaos of high school years 06:00 – The anchor of faith through Eric’s grandmother, Alice 08:00 – Modeling prayer, Scripture, and stability through her example 10:00 – Stories of perseverance: Alice’s faith through loss 12:00 – Legacy stories: Alice’s resilience and creativity at Christmas 14:00 – Redefining legacy: more than money, it’s about impact 16:00 – Angel’s “boring” but stable testimony vs. Eric’s chaos 18:00 – How stability and chaos met when Eric and Angel’s paths crossed 20:00 – Eric’s college years: searching for success and significance 23:00 – The dinner where Eric and Angel first met 25:00 – Eric’s misplaced faith and emotional volatility in college 28:00 – Reflections on testimony, gumbo, and the ingredients of legacy 29:00 – Closing thoughts & invitation to take the Great Wealth Heist Assessment

    30 min

  5. 09/17/2025

    S4:E6 The Netflix of Exit Planning?!

    Take The Great Wealth Heist Assessment Today! https://linktr.ee/kingdomroi In this episode of the Kingdom ROI Podcast, Christopher Callahan sits down with Brett Swarts, founder of Capital Gains Tax Solutions and host of the Capital Gains Tax Solutions Podcast. Brett shares his powerful personal story and how it shaped his mission to help families steward wealth in a way that protects relationships, enhances legacy, and maximizes impact. If you're a business owner or real estate investor considering an exit, this conversation could save your wealth—and your family—from the traps of poor planning and short-sighted strategies. 👉 Learn how to avoid the 70% failure rate in wealth transfer 👉 Discover the Deferred Sales Trust strategy (the “Netflix” of wealth exits) 👉 Shift from fear and scarcity to abundance, peace, and impact 🛠 Tools discussed: Deferred Sales Trust, 1031 exchanges, true passive income 🎯 Ideal for: Business owners, real estate investors, dentists, Bitcoin holders, families with over $1M in gains 📘 Grab Brett’s book: Building a Capital Gains Tax Exit Plan 📞 Book a call: https://www.capitalgainstaxsolutions.com 🔗 Learn more: https://www.brettswarts.com 📍 Timestamps 00:00 – Intro to Brett Swarts and Capital Gains Tax Solutions 01:05 – Brett’s family background, faith, and journey into real estate 03:00 – How his parents’ divorce and wealth collapse shaped his mission 05:30 – The “Steve” story: Losing $50M and a marriage due to poor exit planning 07:00 – Why 1031 exchanges can trap families in financial stress 08:10 – How Brett helps families align exit strategies with their relationships and legacy 09:00 – Warren and Catherine’s story: Trading real estate headaches for time with twin daughters 10:45 – What is “truly passive income” and why it matters 12:00 – 1031 vs. Deferred Sales Trust: Blockbuster vs. Netflix analogy 15:00 – Case study: $13M car wash sale + strategic Bitcoin investment 17:00 – Who qualifies: Ideal client profile (business owners, real estate, Bitcoin) 19:30 – Brett’s personal story: Taking his family on a 1,000-day, 100-location legacy journey 21:00 – Uganda, clean water, and living out generosity with your kids 22:00 – The $84–$100 trillion opportunity in the great wealth transfer 24:10 – Christians must steward wealth actively—not store it away passively 26:00 – Stewardship over Ownership: Shifting your mindset for impact 28:00 – From fear, scarcity, and protection to abundance, peace, and impact 29:00 – Biggest mindset shift: Understand your “tax flow,” not just cash flow 31:00 – Brett’s 3D view: Tax flow, cash flow, debt flow 34:00 – The cost of inaction and the ditches on both sides of wisdom 35:00 – Brett’s book + how to schedule a strategy call 36:30 – Final encouragement: Steward your story, steward your wealth, and take action 🔔 Subscribe to stay updated on future episodes! #KingdomROI #WealthStewardship #CapitalGainsTax #DeferredSalesTrust #LegacyPlanning #FaithAndFinance #KingdomBusiness #ExitStrategy

    37 min

  6. 09/10/2025

    S4:E5 Flowers Grow From The Deepest Wounds | KROI Podcast

    Take The Great Wealth Heist Assessment Today! https://linktr.ee/kingdomroi What if legacy wasn’t what you leave behind—but what you set in motion? In this powerful episode of the Kingdom ROI Podcast, Chris sits down with Bill High, nationally recognized legacy consultant, author, and founder of LegacyStone.com. Together, they unpack how your family, your failures, and your faith all converge to shape a generational calling—not just an inheritance. From the pain of fatherlessness to building billion-dollar impact through biblical family governance, Bill’s story is raw, redemptive, and deeply practical. He also shares highlights from his new book The Legacy Life (co-authored with Hobby Lobby founder David Green), and why your family culture may be the most overlooked asset on your balance sheet. This is more than just legacy planning—it’s a reformation of how Kingdom families show up across generations. ⏱️ Timestamps & Chapters 00:00 – Intro: Welcome Bill High to the Kingdom ROI Podcast 02:03 – Meet Bill: From Ozark poverty to legacy strategist 05:10 – What is LegacyStone.com and its mission? 08:42 – Law to Legacy: The deeper calling behind the consulting 13:03 – Healing through Journaling: The sacred processing of pain 17:45 – Legacy vs Inheritance: Why your impact is what you set in motion 22:09 – Thinking Generationally: What the Bible actually models 26:38 – Where the Church Misses It: From marriage-centric to family mission 32:15 – Governance for Families: Vision, values, and generational thinking 36:40 – The Power of Storytelling: The 10 stories your kids must know 42:20 – Feeling Behind? One-degree change and where to start 47:50 – The Legacy Life Book: The backstory with David Green 52:33 – Praying for the Family of God: Bill High’s final challenge 56:01 – Closing: Resources to start building legacy today 📘 PRE-ORDER THE BOOK The Legacy Life: How to Build Generations of Influence and Impact By Bill High & David Green (Releases October 14, 2025) 👉 [Search for “The Legacy Life” on Amazon or your favorite retailer] 🎥 EXPLORE LEGACYSTONE.COM On-demand family discipleship courses, small group materials, and live workshops. 👉 https://legacystone.com 🌐 Visit Bill’s Site 👉 https://billhigh.com 🌱 Explore Kingdom ROI & More Family Resources 👉 linktr.ee/kingdomroi 🔥 BIG IDEAS FROM THIS EPISODE Legacy is not about wealth transfer—it’s about spiritual motion. Independence is a cultural idol; interdependence is Kingdom design. The church must go beyond marriage curriculum to equip family teams. You’re not behind—God only needs one degree of change. Storytelling is how culture is preserved and transferred across generations. 🛎️ Subscribe for More If this episode stirred something in you, don’t just let it fade. 👉 Hit that bell, share this with a fellow family builder, and start your legacy journey today.

    43 min

  7. 08/13/2025

    S4:E4 The ROI Lie | The Great Wealth Heist

    Take the Great Wealth Heist Assessment, and check out our other resources: https://linktr.ee/kingdomroi 🔐 Discover how unconscious manipulation in financial systems is robbing families of their legacy. In this episode, Eric and Chris expose the ROI lie, reveal the pitfalls of unchecked optimization, and introduce the critical need for advocacy in wealth planning. If you’re a business owner or legacy-minded family, this episode will change how you think about wealth forever. 👇 TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 – Why 70% of businesses fail after one generation 00:38 – “Postponing joy”: The hidden cost of chasing ROI 01:15 – Why Eric re-centered the Kingdom ROI team around vision 03:00 – When your team doesn’t know your “why” — leadership wake-up call 04:15 – Love as the foundation of advocacy 05:55 – Vision leaks: the John Maxwell principle 06:48 – The ROI Lie: Why more money won’t give you peace 08:10 – Why we give away our best ideas 09:45 – Scarcity mindset sneaks in — even with more money 11:10 – God’s economy vs fear-based planning 12:30 – Orphan vs Son: how you think impacts how you live 13:30 – What the Great Wealth Heist really looks like 14:15 – The industry’s bias toward “solutions” and transactions 15:10 – Why fear-based selling dominates the financial world 16:15 – The problem with “checking the box” on planning 17:30 – The stats don’t lie: 90% of wealth fails by the third generation 18:45 – What no one tells you about “great” legal strategies 20:00 – Real story: How good planning can still ruin your kids 22:10 – Optimization without intention = future regret 23:00 – The hidden cost of poor advocacy 24:00 – Reevaluate what matters: clarity before optimization 25:15 – Why your attorney or CPA might not be your advocate 26:30 – How advocacy changes your financial outcomes 27:10 – Better ROI from better intention — real stories 28:30 – Dynamic plans: realigning as life and relationships evolve 29:20 – Advocacy helps creators keep creating 30:30 – “Return on Intention” leads to more than just profit 31:00 – We’re all building puzzles… without the cover 32:20 – The world is optimizing without any long-term vision 33:00 – The high cost of not having an advocate 34:20 – What lifetime inheritance really means 35:00 – Free knowledge… but will you take action? 📣 TAKE ACTION Don’t just check boxes. Start building your 100-year legacy with intention. ✅ Subscribe ✅ Share this episode 🎧 Listen on Apple | Spotify | YouTube https://linktr.ee/kingdomroi #KingdomROI #WealthHeist #ReturnOnIntention #GenerationalWealth #FaithBasedFinance #BusinessLegacy #AbundanceMindset #FamilyGovernance

    37 min

  8. 08/06/2025

    Business Is Ministry

    🔔 Don’t forget to like, comment, and subscribe for more stories of impactful leadership. In our very first episode, host Christopher Callahan sits down with Laramie Stevens to explore what it means to lead with Kingdom values in business. From burnout and family dynamics to workplace chaplaincy and spiritual revival in the corporate world, this conversation is full of wisdom, vulnerability, and faith-driven leadership. ⏱️ TIMESTAMPS 00:00 - Intro: Making History with Episode One 01:00 - Meeting Laramie: Kingdom Leadership Summit 03:00 - Building Accountability through Life Planning 04:20 - A God-Orchestrated Friendship 05:15 - Laramie’s Family and Background 06:30 - The Origin of Inner Parish Security Corporation (IPSC) 07:50 - Scaling to 2,500 Employees Nationwide 08:45 - The Rare Success of a Family Business Transition 10:00 - From HR Director to Burnout 12:00 - Hitting a Breaking Point with Family and Work 13:30 - Honest Conversations and Internal Tensions 15:00 - The Wake-Up Moment: Missing Breakfast with His Daughter 17:00 - Learning to Take Ownership of His Time 18:30 - Rebuilding: From Survival to Health 19:45 - Sensing a New Season from God 21:00 - Letting Go of Self-Reliance and Embracing Dependence on God 23:00 - A Revelation at a Planning Retreat 24:30 - God’s Vision: Become a Covering for Others 25:45 - Transitioning to Corporate Chaplaincy 27:00 - Partnering with His Wife in Ministry 28:30 - Meeting People Where They Are — Spirit, Soul, and Body 30:00 - Erasing the Sacred vs. Secular Divide 31:00 - Business as Ministry: Greater Than Sunday Church 32:00 - Monthly Leadership Prayer Meetings at IPSC 34:00 - No Blueprint, Just Obedience and Curiosity 35:30 - Opening the Business to God’s Leadership 37:00 - Encouragement to Kingdom Business Owners 39:00 - Final Thoughts: Letting God Lead Every Part of Your Business 40:30 - Setting the Tone for the Podcast Series 📣 Want More? Subscribe for future episodes where we talk to leaders who are reshaping business and culture with Kingdom principles. #ImpactfulLeadership #KingdomBusiness #FaithAndWork #LeadershipPodcast #CorporateChaplaincy #FamilyBusiness #BurnoutRecovery #WorkplaceMinistry #ChristianEntrepreneur #SpiritualLeadership #BusinessWithPurpose

    42 min
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Stop the Heist. Reclaim the Legacy. Build for 100+ Years. There’s a silent wealth heist happening in America—one that erodes legacy through distraction, short-term thinking, and systems built on scarcity. The Kingdom ROI Podcast is where we expose that system—and offer something better. Hosted by Eric L. Dunavant and Chris Callahan, two kingdom-minded entrepreneurs helping leaders realign their faith, family, fitness, and finances—not just for short-term gains, but for 100+ years of generational abundance and impact.

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  • Creator
    Eric L. Dunavant, Chris Callahan
  • Years Active
    2022 - 2025
  • Episodes
    136
  • Rating
    Clean
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    © Eric L. Dunavant, Chris Callahan