Kingdom ROI

Eric L. Dunavant, Chris Callahan
  • 5.0 (15)
  • ENTREPRENEURSHIP
  • UPDATED WEEKLY

Stop the Heist. Reclaim the Legacy. Build for 100+ Years. There’s a silent wealth heist happening in America—one that erodes legacy through distraction, short-term thinking, and systems built on scarcity. The Kingdom ROI Podcast is where we expose that system—and offer something better. Hosted by Eric L. Dunavant and Chris Callahan, two kingdom-minded entrepreneurs helping leaders realign their faith, family, fitness, and finances—not just for short-term gains, but for 100+ years of generational abundance and impact.

  1. 3D AGO

    S4:E12 The IRS Doesn’t Want You to Know This About Your Legacy

    If wealth is just about money... you're missing the point. In this episode of the Generational Wealth Masterclass, you'll discover why true generational wealth has little to do with investments—and everything to do with intention, relationships, and stewardship. What You'll Get Answered in This Episode: What is real generational wealth—and why most financial plans fail to create it How to design a 100-year wealth blueprint for your family Why your financial advisor may be giving you technically correct but personally damaging advice The shocking truth about how the IRS and institutions quietly erode family legacies How to align your wealth strategy with your faith, values, and vision Why Return on Intention beats Return on Investment every time What questions to ask before setting up a trust, life insurance, or estate documents The step-by-step planning process for building lasting impact across generations Whether you're a business-owning parent or nearing retirement with a 7–8 figure portfolio, this conversation will change the way you think about legacy... forever. Resources and Next Steps: ✅ Take The Great Wealth Assessment! →https://linktr.ee/kingdomroi 📖 Learn more about Kingdom ROI → https://kingdomroi.org/ 🎯 Find Out More About the Kingdom Operating System: https://www.launchkingdomos.com 🕒 Timestamps 0:00 - Why Most Financial Plans Fail 0:50 - What Is a Real Financial Plan? 2:00 - Vacation Planning Vs. Money Planning 3:40 - Why Budgets Actually Matter 6:00 - Stewarding Money with Purpose 7:10 - Are You Letting Money Control You? 8:00 - The Hidden Power of Money 9:00 - Missing the Human Side of Wealth 10:20 - Trust Over Transactions 11:10 - Step 1: Build the Relationship 12:10 - Step 2: Data ≠ Intentions 13:40 - The Real Need Behind the Numbers 15:00 - Step 3: Look Through the Right Lens 16:00 - ROI vs. Return on Intention 17:40 - How the Industry Gets It Wrong 18:50 - Step 4: Smart, Custom Advice 20:00 - Life Changes? Plans Must Too 22:30 - Flexibility Is a Superpower 24:10 - Wrong Plan for the Right Goal 25:30 - Don’t Lock into Bad Decisions 26:30 - Step 5: Make It Happen 27:30 - Step 6: Keep It Fresh 28:40 - The One-Degree Mistake 29:20 - Don’t Do This Alone 30:00 - Final Takeaways 30:40 - Stay Connected Tags to Help Others Find This Video: Generational wealth planning, generational wealth masterclass, how to build generational wealth, family legacy planning, 100-year family plan, estate planning for business owners, Christian financial planning, financial stewardship, wealth transfer strategy, return on intention, building legacy wealth, family financial strategy, intentional money planning, faith-based wealth, values-based financial planning Hashtags: #GenerationalWealth #FamilyLegacy #WealthPlanning #LegacyNotLuxury #FaithBasedFinance #EstatePlanning #KingdomROI #IntentionalLiving #WealthWithPurpose

    32 min

  2. JAN 12

    S4:E11 You Built It. They’ll Destroy It. Unless You Do This First.

    Resources and Next Steps: 📖 Learn more about Kingdom ROI → https://kingdomroi.org/ 🎯 Find Out More About the Kingdom Operating System: https://www.launchkingdomos.com ✅ Take The Great Wealth Assessment! →https://linktr.ee/kingdomroi In this powerful episode of the KIngdom ROI Podcast, we continue to expose the “Great Wealth Heist”, along with our special guest, Kavon Saber, specifically in the M&A world. We also discuss how faith-driven founders and family-first entrepreneurs can protect their legacy. If your net worth is tied up in your business… If you're planning an exit in the next 3–5 years… Or if you care more about your family than a headline-making deal… 👉 This conversation is for YOU. 🎯 In This Video, You'll Discover: Why 94% of business owners regret selling their company The most expensive mistake entrepreneurs make after scaling How to avoid the M&A industry's “legal theft” disguised as optimization The #1 thing married founders overlook before a liquidity event A blueprint for Kingdom-aligned exit planning Why your business is not your legacy — your family is How to future-proof your values for generations through better stewardship The 4 silent threats that destroy wealth transfers after the sale Why involving your spouse and kids isn’t optional — it's essential A Kingdom mindset shift that makes exits profitable and peaceful 🕒 Timestamps 0:00 - M&A is broken 0:30 - Divorce vs. Selling a Business 1:00 - Meet Kavon Saber 2:00 - How We Met 2:40 - 94% Regret Selling 3:30 - Kingdom Over Exit 4:10 - Called to Business, Not Missions 6:10 - First Big Exit Regret 7:40 - Employees Got Hurt 8:10 - The M&A Game Is Rigged 9:10 - Buyers Always Win 10:00 - Turning the Industry Upside Down 11:00 - The Great Wealth Heist 12:20 - Selling Is Russian Roulette 13:30 - Kingdom M&A Strategy 15:00 - Why Exits Fail 16:00 - Bad Assumptions 17:10 - Keep It Confidential 18:40 - Buyers Are Pros 19:30 - Advisors Aren’t On Your Side 21:00 - God Hates Injustice 22:00 - Start with the Bible 23:20 - Relationships First 24:30 - Transform Your Mind 25:10 - Jesus Owns Your Business 26:10 - The Kingdom Reclaims Work 27:10 - Legacy Is Bigger Than You 28:30 - Why Cities Rejoice 29:10 - You’re Just a Steward 30:00 - How to Vet Buyers 31:00 - Protect Your People 32:10 - Values Over Cash 33:10 - What Legacy Really Means 34:00 - Deal Terms That Bless 35:00 - Trusts That Unite 36:00 - Control the Impact 37:20 - IRS or God? 38:00 - You’re Not Crazy 39:00 - When Business Becomes the Mistress 40:00 - Kavon’s Wake-Up Call 41:00 - Divorce After the Deal 42:00 - Work Is Worship 43:10 - Overworked and Violent 44:00 - Time to Step Away 45:00 - Kavon’s Tools + Resources 46:20 - Final Thoughts Tags to Help Others Find This Video: business exit strategy, how to sell your business, family legacy planning, entrepreneur exit plan, selling business regrets, M&A for founders, business owner succession, wealth preservation strategies, Christian business exit, business stewardship, faith and finance, prepare business for sale, kingdom business, business transition plan, selling company with integrity, avoid wealth erosion, business exit regrets, private equity traps, business exit for married founders, exit planning advisors Hashtags: #BusinessExit #LegacyPlanning #Entrepreneurship #FamilyBusiness #FaithAndFinance #GreatWealthTransfer #ChristianEntrepreneur #SellYourBusiness #Stewardship #WealthStrategy

    47 min

  3. 12/10/2025

    S4:E10 Advisors Won’t Tell You This About Inheritance Planning

    Resources and Next Steps: 📖 Learn more about Kingdom ROI → https://kingdomroi.org/ 🎯 Find Out More About the Kingdom Operating System: https://www.launchkingdomos.com ✅ Take The Great Wealth Assessment! →https://linktr.ee/kingdomroi We are living in the largest wealth transfer in human history — over $140 trillion in the U.S. alone. Potentially $300 trillion globally! But here’s the painful truth: 90% of families will fail to preserve their wealth across three generations. Why? Because good optimization isn’t good enough anymore. Taxes, legal strategies, and investments can’t fix what’s broken. 💥 This isn’t just about money. It’s about values, relationships, and intentional legacy planning. In this episode of the KROI Podcast, Christopher Callahan and Eric L. Dunavant expose what most financial advisors won’t tell you — and how the top 10% of families are breaking the cycle and building 100+ years of impact. 🎯 In This Video, You’ll Discover: ✔️ Why traditional estate planning is setting families up to fail ✔️ The shocking stats behind generational wealth loss (70% fail in Gen 2, 90% in Gen 3) ✔️ The truth about "lifetime inheritance" vs. post-death bequests ✔️ How unconscious manipulation is embedded in the advisory industry ✔️ The Kingdom ROI formula that redefines legacy: Relationships × Optimization = Intention ✔️ The critical conversations your advisor isn't having — and how to start them now ✔️ How to raise financially wise children and avoid entitlement ✔️ Why your legacy must be passed before you're gone ✔️ Real examples of families creating impact for generations — and how you can join them 🕒 Timestamps 0:00 - What Do You Want for Your Kids? 0:40 - The $140 Trillion Transfer 1:50 - Are You Being Robbed? 2:40 - Why Families Fail at Wealth 4:10 - Advisors Are Missing This 5:30 - Lifetime vs. After-Death Inheritance 7:00 - Inheritance Done Wrong 9:00 - Legacy That Actually Matters 10:30 - Speak Into Their Future 12:00 - Is Your Advisor Biased? 13:40 - Building 100-Year Impact 15:00 - What the Top 10% Do 16:30 - Prodigal Son & Entitlement 17:40 - Let Them Fail 19:00 - Real Family Conversations 20:10 - Failing Kids in Their 20s 21:00 - What Do You Really Want? 23:30 - Gen Z Giving Story 25:00 - Family Values in Action 26:20 - Inheritance Isn’t Fair 27:40 - God's Wealth Rules 28:30 - Make Your Business Last 29:20 - Free Book: Bistro with Bob Tags to Help Others Find This Video: generational wealth planning, lifetime inheritance, relational wealth, estate planning for high net worth families, legacy family planning, wealth transfer strategy, how to build generational wealth, values-based estate planning, inheritance failure rate, Kingdom ROI, wealth preservation strategies, Christian financial planning, how to talk to kids about money, multi-generational family legacy, legacy vs inheritance Hashtags: #GenerationalWealth #EstatePlanning #LegacyMatters #WealthTransfer #KingdomROI #FamilyLegacy #WealthHeist #HighNetWorth #IntentionalLiving #ValuesDrivenWealth

    30 min

  4. 11/10/2025

    How Bad Money Advice Almost Ruined Our Marriage

    Watch Part 1 here: https://youtu.be/Q42mA458ARI Resources and Next Steps: 📖 Learn more about Kingdom ROI → https://kingdomroi.org/ 🎯 Find Out More About the Kingdom Operating System: https://www.launchkingdomos.com ✅ Take The Great Wealth Assessment! →https://linktr.ee/kingdomroi What happens when the American Dream starts feeling like a nightmare? In this raw and powerful episode of the Kingdom ROI Podcast, Christopher Callahan continues the conversation with Eric L. Dunavant and Angel Dunavant open up about the early years of their marriage — five moves in two years, unexpected tax debt, career pivots, spiritual struggles, and the pursuit of wealth that almost cost everything. If you're a high-achieving couple balancing kids, money, business growth — or you're nearing retirement and thinking about the legacy you'll leave behind — this story will hit home. In this episode, you'll discover: What really happens when you move 5 times in 2 years (hint: your taxes and marriage suffer) The spiritual cost of chasing wealth and identity through money Why Eric walked away from a higher salary and company car (and what happened next) How one unexpected book completely redirected their financial future When God shows up in the budget (even when you're $200 short every month) What legacy means when you're building something that lasts beyond wealth 🕒 Timestamps 0:00 - The Lettuce Story 1:20 - The Wrong Name Call 2:30 - Ice Cream Pre-Date 3:40 - Oops, Marriage Talk 4:10 - Baggage & Backgrounds 5:00 - Dreaming of Riches 6:40 - Redefining Success 7:50 - Money Tensions Begin 8:10 - First Jobs & Big Moves 9:30 - Moving Madness 10:30 - Life Timeline Fast-Track 11:40 - LA Culture Shock 12:30 - People Are People 13:20 - Marriage Under Pressure 14:00 - $7K Tax Bomb 15:20 - Faith Gets Tested 16:40 - Thank You, God 17:20 - Identity Crisis 18:20 - Finance Calling 20:10 - Schwab Breakthrough 21:30 - Sacrifice Season 23:00 - Big Pay Cut 24:40 - Night Shifts & Grit 25:30 - Beating the Odds 26:40 - Business Dreams 27:40 - Money as a God 28:30 - Y2K Chaos 30:00 - Faith & Frustration 31:30 - Healing Begins 33:00 - $200 Short 34:00 - God’s Take on Money 35:00 - Letting Go Tags to Help Others Find This Video: faith and finances, Christian financial planning, legacy wealth planning, biblical money principles, married and broke, early marriage money mistakes, financial testimony, debt story Christian couple, spiritual identity and money, money stress marriage, Christian couple story, moving too often, God and money, leaving corporate career, faith-based financial journey Hashtags: #FaithAndMoney #ChristianFinance #LegacyPlanning #MoneyTestimony #MarriageAndMoney #BiblicalFinance #FinancialFreedom #GodProvides #MoneyAsAnIdol #DebtToLegacy #ChristianCouple

    39 min

  5. 10/08/2025

    S4:E8 You're Neglecting Your Marriage By Ignoring This

    Take The Great Wealth Heist Assessment Today! https://linktr.ee/kingdomroi In this episode of the Kingdom ROI Podcast, Eric Dunavant unpacks the Kingdom ROI Method—a proven framework for protecting your family’s legacy for 100+ years of abundance and impact. The truth? Less than 10% of families succeed in preserving their wealth across generations. Why? Because most get distracted by financial optimization alone, neglecting the deeper foundations of relationships and intention. In this episode, Eric shares powerful stories, including lessons from his grandmother’s legacy, his own family practices, and how business owners can avoid falling victim to the Great Wealth Heist—the silent erosion of generational wealth. ⏱️ Timestamps 00:00 – The $140 Trillion Wealth Transfer & the Great Wealth Heist 02:00 – What is the Kingdom ROI Method? (Relationships × Optimization = Intention) 05:00 – Can any family build 100+ years of abundance—or just the wealthy? 07:00 – Legacy lessons from Eric’s grandmother & grandfather 09:00 – Why focusing only on optimization leads to scarcity & fear 12:00 – The hidden cost of neglecting relationships 14:00 – Stephen Covey’s “Begin With the End in Mind” & biblical principles 16:00 – How the world distracts you with optimization while robbing your legacy 18:00 – Business ownership, family, and applying the ROI formula 20:00 – Why optimization must follow relationships & intention 22:00 – Kingdom ROI’s “Sunrise” & “Quest” experiences for families & teams 24:00 – How the Great Wealth Heist Assessment exposes relational gaps 26:00 – Practical family practices: Weekly intentional calls with Eric’s kids 29:00 – Why this is a true heist: You don’t see it happening until it’s too late 30:00 – Final call: Take the assessment & guard your 100+ year legacy

    32 min

  6. 09/24/2025

    S4:E7 The Journey from Bankruptcy to Stability | KROI Podcast

    Take The Great Wealth Heist Assessment Today! https://linktr.ee/kingdomroi In this heartfelt episode of the Kingdom ROI Podcast, Eric and Angel Dunavant open up about their personal stories of faith, family, loss, and legacy. From the challenges of empty nesting to the deep influence of Eric’s grandmother, Alice, they reveal how God used both chaos and stability to shape their journey. This is the beginning of a powerful multi-episode series exploring their testimony, family history, and the pursuit of 100+ years of abundance and impact. Timestamps: 00:00 – Introduction with Christopher Callahan 01:00 – Launching kids to college & entering the empty nester season 02:00 – Why Eric & Angel are sharing their story in depth 03:00 – Eric’s early life in West Texas & small-town upbringing 04:00 – Family challenges: illness, separation, and loss of his mother 05:00 – Bankruptcy, moving homes, and the chaos of high school years 06:00 – The anchor of faith through Eric’s grandmother, Alice 08:00 – Modeling prayer, Scripture, and stability through her example 10:00 – Stories of perseverance: Alice’s faith through loss 12:00 – Legacy stories: Alice’s resilience and creativity at Christmas 14:00 – Redefining legacy: more than money, it’s about impact 16:00 – Angel’s “boring” but stable testimony vs. Eric’s chaos 18:00 – How stability and chaos met when Eric and Angel’s paths crossed 20:00 – Eric’s college years: searching for success and significance 23:00 – The dinner where Eric and Angel first met 25:00 – Eric’s misplaced faith and emotional volatility in college 28:00 – Reflections on testimony, gumbo, and the ingredients of legacy 29:00 – Closing thoughts & invitation to take the Great Wealth Heist Assessment

    30 min

  7. 09/17/2025

    S4:E6 The Netflix of Exit Planning?!

    Take The Great Wealth Heist Assessment Today! https://linktr.ee/kingdomroi In this episode of the Kingdom ROI Podcast, Christopher Callahan sits down with Brett Swarts, founder of Capital Gains Tax Solutions and host of the Capital Gains Tax Solutions Podcast. Brett shares his powerful personal story and how it shaped his mission to help families steward wealth in a way that protects relationships, enhances legacy, and maximizes impact. If you're a business owner or real estate investor considering an exit, this conversation could save your wealth—and your family—from the traps of poor planning and short-sighted strategies. 👉 Learn how to avoid the 70% failure rate in wealth transfer 👉 Discover the Deferred Sales Trust strategy (the “Netflix” of wealth exits) 👉 Shift from fear and scarcity to abundance, peace, and impact 🛠 Tools discussed: Deferred Sales Trust, 1031 exchanges, true passive income 🎯 Ideal for: Business owners, real estate investors, dentists, Bitcoin holders, families with over $1M in gains 📘 Grab Brett’s book: Building a Capital Gains Tax Exit Plan 📞 Book a call: https://www.capitalgainstaxsolutions.com 🔗 Learn more: https://www.brettswarts.com 📍 Timestamps 00:00 – Intro to Brett Swarts and Capital Gains Tax Solutions 01:05 – Brett’s family background, faith, and journey into real estate 03:00 – How his parents’ divorce and wealth collapse shaped his mission 05:30 – The “Steve” story: Losing $50M and a marriage due to poor exit planning 07:00 – Why 1031 exchanges can trap families in financial stress 08:10 – How Brett helps families align exit strategies with their relationships and legacy 09:00 – Warren and Catherine’s story: Trading real estate headaches for time with twin daughters 10:45 – What is “truly passive income” and why it matters 12:00 – 1031 vs. Deferred Sales Trust: Blockbuster vs. Netflix analogy 15:00 – Case study: $13M car wash sale + strategic Bitcoin investment 17:00 – Who qualifies: Ideal client profile (business owners, real estate, Bitcoin) 19:30 – Brett’s personal story: Taking his family on a 1,000-day, 100-location legacy journey 21:00 – Uganda, clean water, and living out generosity with your kids 22:00 – The $84–$100 trillion opportunity in the great wealth transfer 24:10 – Christians must steward wealth actively—not store it away passively 26:00 – Stewardship over Ownership: Shifting your mindset for impact 28:00 – From fear, scarcity, and protection to abundance, peace, and impact 29:00 – Biggest mindset shift: Understand your “tax flow,” not just cash flow 31:00 – Brett’s 3D view: Tax flow, cash flow, debt flow 34:00 – The cost of inaction and the ditches on both sides of wisdom 35:00 – Brett’s book + how to schedule a strategy call 36:30 – Final encouragement: Steward your story, steward your wealth, and take action 🔔 Subscribe to stay updated on future episodes! #KingdomROI #WealthStewardship #CapitalGainsTax #DeferredSalesTrust #LegacyPlanning #FaithAndFinance #KingdomBusiness #ExitStrategy

    37 min

  8. 09/10/2025

    S4:E5 Flowers Grow From The Deepest Wounds | KROI Podcast

    Take The Great Wealth Heist Assessment Today! https://linktr.ee/kingdomroi What if legacy wasn’t what you leave behind—but what you set in motion? In this powerful episode of the Kingdom ROI Podcast, Chris sits down with Bill High, nationally recognized legacy consultant, author, and founder of LegacyStone.com. Together, they unpack how your family, your failures, and your faith all converge to shape a generational calling—not just an inheritance. From the pain of fatherlessness to building billion-dollar impact through biblical family governance, Bill’s story is raw, redemptive, and deeply practical. He also shares highlights from his new book The Legacy Life (co-authored with Hobby Lobby founder David Green), and why your family culture may be the most overlooked asset on your balance sheet. This is more than just legacy planning—it’s a reformation of how Kingdom families show up across generations. ⏱️ Timestamps & Chapters 00:00 – Intro: Welcome Bill High to the Kingdom ROI Podcast 02:03 – Meet Bill: From Ozark poverty to legacy strategist 05:10 – What is LegacyStone.com and its mission? 08:42 – Law to Legacy: The deeper calling behind the consulting 13:03 – Healing through Journaling: The sacred processing of pain 17:45 – Legacy vs Inheritance: Why your impact is what you set in motion 22:09 – Thinking Generationally: What the Bible actually models 26:38 – Where the Church Misses It: From marriage-centric to family mission 32:15 – Governance for Families: Vision, values, and generational thinking 36:40 – The Power of Storytelling: The 10 stories your kids must know 42:20 – Feeling Behind? One-degree change and where to start 47:50 – The Legacy Life Book: The backstory with David Green 52:33 – Praying for the Family of God: Bill High’s final challenge 56:01 – Closing: Resources to start building legacy today 📘 PRE-ORDER THE BOOK The Legacy Life: How to Build Generations of Influence and Impact By Bill High & David Green (Releases October 14, 2025) 👉 [Search for “The Legacy Life” on Amazon or your favorite retailer] 🎥 EXPLORE LEGACYSTONE.COM On-demand family discipleship courses, small group materials, and live workshops. 👉 https://legacystone.com 🌐 Visit Bill’s Site 👉 https://billhigh.com 🌱 Explore Kingdom ROI & More Family Resources 👉 linktr.ee/kingdomroi 🔥 BIG IDEAS FROM THIS EPISODE Legacy is not about wealth transfer—it’s about spiritual motion. Independence is a cultural idol; interdependence is Kingdom design. The church must go beyond marriage curriculum to equip family teams. You’re not behind—God only needs one degree of change. Storytelling is how culture is preserved and transferred across generations. 🛎️ Subscribe for More If this episode stirred something in you, don’t just let it fade. 👉 Hit that bell, share this with a fellow family builder, and start your legacy journey today.

    43 min
See All (138)

5
out of 5
15 Ratings

About

Stop the Heist. Reclaim the Legacy. Build for 100+ Years. There’s a silent wealth heist happening in America—one that erodes legacy through distraction, short-term thinking, and systems built on scarcity. The Kingdom ROI Podcast is where we expose that system—and offer something better. Hosted by Eric L. Dunavant and Chris Callahan, two kingdom-minded entrepreneurs helping leaders realign their faith, family, fitness, and finances—not just for short-term gains, but for 100+ years of generational abundance and impact.

Information

  • Creator
    Eric L. Dunavant, Chris Callahan
  • Years Active
    2022 - 2026
  • Episodes
    138
  • Rating
    Clean
  • Copyright
    © Eric L. Dunavant, Chris Callahan