19 episodes

an anti-nostalgia podcast about the indie music of the 00’s, the influential music website Pitchfork Media, and growing up as a child of the internet. co-hosted by writer/musicians Max Cohen (@lastyears_model) and Liz Ryerson (@ellaguro)

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an anti-nostalgia podcast about the indie music of the 00’s, the influential music website Pitchfork Media, and growing up as a child of the internet. co-hosted by writer/musicians Max Cohen (@lastyears_model) and Liz Ryerson (@ellaguro)

    #19 - I WILL take it too far!! (Xiu Xiu - A Promise)

    #19 - I WILL take it too far!! (Xiu Xiu - A Promise)

    for Pride month we finally tackle a beloved (musically) unhinged artist for an unhinged time. continuing on in our 2003 Best New Music era, we talk about perennial Pitchfork critical darling and twitter album poll winner Xiu Xiu and their dark, quiet, and disturbing 2003 cult album "A Promise" - an album that feels just as relevant as ever. the band is still active today via primary member Jamie Stewart, and has had a vast amount of influence on the landscape via their one-of-a-kind hyper intense queer industrial/experimental/pop sound and Jamie's incredibly emotive vocals. their influence only seems to grow over the years, even in spite of their sometimes spotty and self-sabotaging output as is talked about. Liz also makes a sincere case for Xiu Xiu being as important as the Velvet Underground.
     
    Jamie Stewart interview mentioned in the episode:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qh0TBfokA-w

    • 2 hr 3 min
    #18 - Us and Eric Adams Down By The Schoolyard (!!! - Me and Giuliani single & TV on the Radio - Young Liars EP)

    #18 - Us and Eric Adams Down By The Schoolyard (!!! - Me and Giuliani single & TV on the Radio - Young Liars EP)

    EMAIL us: kitschforkpodcast@gmail.comwe continue on with our Best New Music circa 2003 era of Kitschfork by taking a visit back to the biggest apple of them all, Nu Yawk City baybee, in this special twofer episode. we first take a dip into 00's dancepunk revival with the ungoogleable !!!'s "Me and Giuliani Down By The Schoolyard" single (which curiously landed a 7.8 on Pitchfork but still made Best New Music), a thing we feel... sort of whatever about. and then we unearth a popular Brooklyn indie rock band's first notable release with TV On The Radio's "Young Liars" EP - both released on Touch & Go in 2003.
     


    we talk bygone trends of 00's music and its 70's/80's obsession, gentrification, Celebrity Deathmatch, Eric Adams's horrible mayorship, and... much more.

     
    this is the article about video game music interpolation in indie pop by Drew Mackie mentioned on the episode: https://www.thrillingtalesofoldvideogames.com/blog/star-maze-mario-land-2-owen-pallett

    • 1 hr 57 min
    #17 - Cottagecore At The Kmart (Sufjan Stevens - Michigan)

    #17 - Cottagecore At The Kmart (Sufjan Stevens - Michigan)

    EMAIL us: kitschforkpodcast@gmail.com
    folks, it's time to get twee. for the first of our two twitter poll winners, we start season 2 of Kitschfork off with perennially beloved indie artist Sufjan Stevens and his 2003 breakout album "Michigan" which Pitchfork helped break with its brand new (circa 2003) "Best New Music" category. because of this, Liz talks about the history of Pitchfork's Best New Music and also the disputed history of this album's review. Max and Liz also have a very spirited disagreement about Sufjan. Much discussion about Sufjan's strengths (and failures) as an artist and this era's musical tropes in general ensues.

    • 1 hr 41 min
    #16 - The Mallfucking Of America feat. Aaron Casias (Modest Mouse - The Lonesome Crowded West)

    #16 - The Mallfucking Of America feat. Aaron Casias (Modest Mouse - The Lonesome Crowded West)

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    EMAIL us: kitschforkpodcast@gmail.com
    before we officially begin Kitschfork Season Two (aka our Best New Music era) and return back to our rightful place in the 2000's, we still have another 90's album to get to. that's right! we have finally made good on our intentions to talk about the (at the time very young, now rapidly aging) indie rock stars Modest Mouse's seminal 1997 double-album The Lonesome Crowded West. this time we are joined by 90's culture aficionado Aaron Casias, co-host of the 90's movie podcast Hit Factory to help us interpret this album's place in the culture of the time.
    we talk about why this album is so critically beloved, and such a perfect road trip album. we talk about the untimely passing of Jeremiah Green at the beginning of this year, which tragically ended their reunion tour playing this album. we talk the now 10 year old official Pitchfork documentary from 2013 about the making of this album. we talk about the music scene of the Pacific Northwest for what feels like the billionth time. we talk about the mallfucking of America. and we take 2 hours and 40 minutes to do it.
    so please enjoy. and thank you for your patience. expect more updates coming next podcast, which should be out in a couple of weeks (i promise!)
    Pitchfork Lonesome Crowded West Documentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G33AcZzZ0pM
    Aaron (Hit Factory)'s twitter: https://twitter.com/HitFactoryPod
    Hit Factory's Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/hitfactorypod

    • 2 hr 40 min
    #15 - Better No Cred Than Dead (Pearl Jam - No Code)

    #15 - Better No Cred Than Dead (Pearl Jam - No Code)

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    EMAIL us: kitschforkpodcast@gmail.com
    today we delay the inevitable Modest Mouse coverage to go back again to the 90's to talk about an unkillable musical behemoth - Pearl Jam, and their (probably) weirdest album - 1996's No Code.
    we also go into the background of Pearl Jam as both the most popular band in the world for a time, and also as the whipping boys of indie rock forum hipsters everywhere in the 00's. we reflect on the Nirvana vs. Pearl Jam conflict and the dangers of cred. and we talk about an initially divisive album The Quietus described as "Grunge's 'Kid A' moment" (a huge stretch), that is now generally recognized as one of their best.

    • 2 hr 27 min
    #14 - Subterranean Non-Linear Ancestors (Dälek - From Filthy Tongue of Gods and Griots)

    #14 - Subterranean Non-Linear Ancestors (Dälek - From Filthy Tongue of Gods and Griots)

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    EMAIL us: kitschforkpodcast@gmail.com
    WE'RE BACK FROM THE DEAD!
    today on our 14th episode (originally recorded in late November last year), we talk about experimental/industrial hip-hop pioneers from New Jersey, Dälek (aka Will Brooks & company) and their seminal 2002 album "From Filthy Tongue of Gods and Griots"
    we talk about how much Dälek's cross-genre inspirations (while still maintaining a traditional hip-hop essence) and high-minded experimentation set the stage for a lot of experimental hip-hop that came later in the 2010's. also how they still haven't gotten their due!
    spoilers: this album is great, and you probably haven't heard of it before. which you can rectify here:
    https://dalek.bandcamp.com/album/from-filthy-tongue-of-gods-and-griots

    • 1 hr 52 min

Customer Reviews

5.0 out of 5
13 Ratings

13 Ratings

jwordfish ,

Super fun show

A deep dive into the music, artists, and blog industrial complex of the aughts, plus the 90s too! The conversations range across a host of genres and styles, while staying rooted in an experience of the recent past that’s both personal and collective. The hosts are thoughtful, knowledgeable, and spirited. They also have awesome guests on. Great podcast!

Banshee Neet ,

Great look back on a particular era of music

Great retrospectives and reviews of albums while also analyzing the peculiarities of Pitchfork and the music criticism scene of the time in general. Also got me into Tori Amos.

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