KneeToKnee

Mark Marrott

KneeToKnee – Where the Magic Happens is the straight-talk podcast built for men who want real tools to get stronger—physically, mentally, emotionally, and as fathers and leaders. Not empty motivation. I’m Mark Marrott, and every week I sit knee-to-knee with powerful guests—men and women who’ve actually lived it: high-achieving dads, combat veterans, elite athletes, recovery warriors, therapists, coaches, and everyday guys who’ve clawed their way back from rock bottom. We dive deep into how real, intentional human connections become actual medicine for men in their prime years. The topics hit hard and stay practical: forging brotherhoods that keep you accountable, staying present as a dad without losing your edge, leading at work and home without burning out, bouncing back from injury, addiction, divorce, or career crashes, tying your fitness and metabolic health to the people who actually have your back, mastering emotional resilience without going soft, and building a purpose that lasts through all the midlife pressure. No therapy-speak. No fluff. Just raw stories, science-backed insights, hard-earned lessons, and actionable steps on the stuff men really wrestle with: isolation in a connected world, provider stress, testosterone and energy dips from disconnection, long-term friendships that fade, forgiveness that actually frees you, and the relationships that quietly make or break your health and your legacy. Because the strongest version of you isn’t built alone. The real magic of well-being happens when you’re connected—knee to knee—with people who refuse to let you go it solo.

  1. After the Bridge Breaks, This is How You Rebuild - with Melissa Barton

    3d ago

    After the Bridge Breaks, This is How You Rebuild - with Melissa Barton

    Male intimacy, sex therapy, couples connection, emotional vulnerability, radical listening, men and loneliness, marriage advice, EFT therapy, attachment styles, KneeToKnee podcast   Melissa Barton is a licensed therapist, couples therapist, and sex therapist based in Utah. Her husband Brad was on KneeToKnee a few weeks back and told us we had to have her on. He was right.   This is one of the most honest conversations we have had on this show. Melissa works with men and couples every single day, and she knows something most men have never been told: the desire to feel connected, seen, and known does not go away with age. It just changes form. And if you are not building the language to talk about it, you and your partner end up living at the surface level for decades.   We get into what really drives conflict in relationships (hint: it is usually not the thing you are actually fighting about), why anger is often just sadness wearing a mask, and a simple concept called the bridge that can completely reframe how you handle hard conversations.   Melissa also gets into what happens in her office when men finally let their guard down. Spoiler: it is one of the most powerful things she ever gets to witness.   The one thing she leaves you with is simple. Take a breath first. Then listen like your relationship depends on it, because it does.   Chapters: 00:00 Introduction 01:43 How intimacy and connection change from your 20s to your 50s 06:00 Why men were conditioned to never ask for help 10:27 Loneliness and its real impact on men's health 13:26 What anger looks like in couples and what is underneath it 21:17 The bridge concept: how to stop fighting and start hearing 28:31 The one thing: radical listening and the breath that changes everything   📩 Get The One Thing — a weekly note from Mark every time a new episode drops: https://bit.ly/4eIs6gf

    31 min
  2. How to Stay Curious When Every Instinct Tells You You're Right - with Eric Robinson

    May 20

    How to Stay Curious When Every Instinct Tells You You're Right - with Eric Robinson

    Eric Robinson spent years pastoring a church built for people who didn't normally go to church. The work was meaningful. The stress was unsustainable. So he made a call most people would never consider: he applied to the FBI. What followed was a 25-year career that included 15 years on FBI SWAT, roles as a tactics instructor, firearms instructor, and fitness instructor, and front-row seats to some of the deepest male bonds you can build. He retired a few months ago, and this is one of his first conversations since. In this episode, Mark and Eric get into the real stuff: how Eric managed stress that others couldn't, why the FBI felt like a relief after ministry, what SWAT brotherhood actually feels like from the inside, how his team handled a shooting, what "being curious" really means in practice, and how a man figures out who he is when the badge and the title are gone. Eric's closing answer to "the one thing" is simple, practical, and worth sitting with. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and the Running Connection 04:00 From Ministry to the FBI: The Pivot Nobody Saw Coming 07:00 Resilience, Trauma, and Underestimating Yourself 10:30 What FBI SWAT Brotherhood Actually Feels Like 13:30 The Hot Wash: How Eric's Team Processed a Shooting 19:00 Retirement, Identity, and Letting Go of the Badge 23:00 The One Thing: Stay Curious, Stay Open 📩 Get The One Thing — a weekly note from Mark every time a new episode drops: https://bit.ly/4eIs6gf 🎙️ KneeToKnee — connection that compounds. https://youtu.be/r_EpasCuWos ☑ Find us most everywhere! https://linktr.ee/kneetoknee #HumanConnection #AuthenticConnections #WellnessJourney

    25 min
  3. The Voice Your Ancestors Gave You - with Darren Perry

    May 15

    The Voice Your Ancestors Gave You - with Darren Perry

    Darren Parry, former chairman of the Northwestern Band Shoshone Nation, on Bear River Massacre, indigenous wisdom, male leadership, service, brotherhood, and reconnecting men to purpose. What does it actually mean to lead? Not manage, not dominate, but lead. Darren Parry has spent his life carrying that answer. Darren is the former chairman of the Northwestern Band of the Shoshone Nation, an educator at Utah State University, and the author of the Bear River Massacre of Shoshone history. That book started with his grandmother, the tribal historian for their people. When she passed before she could finish it, Darren picked it up and carried it home. In this conversation we go deep on what indigenous culture understood about men and community that our modern world has slowly walked away from. Darren talks about the difference between hierarchical power and a circle of responsibility, what it means to build intergenerational bonds with your family before it's too late, the courage it takes to stand up for something even when the odds are against you, and the simple question his grandmother asked him as a boy that redefined what leadership actually looks like. His closing answer about eagle feathers and what it means to go be a chief is one of the best moments we've had on this show. CHAPTERS: 00:00 Introduction 01:23 Darren's background and Shoshone history 03:54 The Bear River Massacre 06:13 What indigenous men knew about responsibility 09:26 How to rebuild intergenerational bonds 12:45 Oral history, elders, and the library that burns 14:10 Running for Congress to give a people a voice 18:18 Go be a chief — the eagle feather story 📩 Get The One Thing — a weekly note from Mark every time a new episode drops: https://bit.ly/4eIs6gf ☑ Find us most everywhere! https://linktr.ee/kneetoknee #HumanConnection #AuthenticConnections #WellnessJourney

    21 min
  4. 7 Principles That Took Him from Broke Kid to One of 3 Epic Deca Finishers on Earth - JD Tremblay

    May 6

    7 Principles That Took Him from Broke Kid to One of 3 Epic Deca Finishers on Earth - JD Tremblay

    EpicDeca finisher JD Tremblay breaks down blood chemistry, energy regulation & endurance performance. Insert Link Only 3 people on Earth have completed the Epic Deca — 10 Iron Man distance triathlons across 10 Hawaiian islands. JD Tremblay is one of them. But what makes this conversation different from every other endurance story you've heard is that JD isn't interested in telling you how tough he is. He's here to give you the systems he used — systems that work whether you're attempting the impossible or just trying to drag yourself back to the gym. In this episode of KneeToKnee, JD breaks down the DECA framework (Discipline, Energy Regulation, Capacity, Action), his BRAIN optimization method (Blood Chemistry, Recovery, Attention, Inflammation, Nervous System), why your morning smoothie may be sabotaging your focus and energy, the truth about electrolytes, sodium, and insulin timing, and why values need to come before goals if you want lasting direction in your life. JD is also a certified naturopathic practitioner and military veteran — and his perspective on inflammation, community, and building a value-driven life is something every man needs to hear. Chapters • 00:00 – Welcome & Introduction to JD Tremblay • 01:00 – What Is the Epic Deca? (10 Iron Mans, 10 Days, 5 Islands) • 03:32 – The DECA System: Discipline, Energy Regulation, Capacity & Action • 11:12 – The BRAIN Framework: Blood Chemistry, Recovery, Attention, Inflammation & Nervous System • 16:53 – Practical Nutrition Tips for the Average Man Getting Back in the Gym • 27:46 – Values Before Goals: JD's Closing Advice for Building Deep Connections ☑ Find us most everywhere! https://linktr.ee/kneetoknee #HumanConnection #AuthenticConnections #WellnessJourney

    31 min
  5. The Unexpected Truth He Discovered After Leaving the Military - with Ryan Reichert

    Apr 29

    The Unexpected Truth He Discovered After Leaving the Military - with Ryan Reichert

    Veteran mental health, male loneliness, and brotherhood collide in this raw conversation with Lt. Colonel Ryan Reichert on KneeToKnee with Mark Marrott. Ryan Reichert retired from the Army as a Lieutenant Colonel, landed a Fortune 500 job with a multi-six-figure salary, and found himself completely alone. No brotherhood. No mission. No foundation. What followed was an identity crisis, addiction, divorce, and the hard work of rebuilding from scratch. In this episode, Ryan shares what broke him after the military, how he found his way back through community and faith, and why kindness might be the most underrated weapon a man carries. Topics covered include post-military identity loss, veteran PTSD and addiction recovery, the Bravo Zulu House (the first all-veteran sober house in the nation), Our Protector Development, the one-high-two-lows check-in method, and Ryan's six-step kindness framework from his TEDx Duluth talk. This is a Tier 4 episode: Mindset and Relationships. Chapters: • 00:00 — Introduction: Ryan Reichert and the Built to Break mindset • 02:30 — Post-military identity crisis: From Lt. Colonel to Fortune 500 to rock bottom • 05:10 — Male loneliness and the cost of going it alone • 10:35 — The groups that rebuilt Ryan: Church, veterans court, and battle buddies • 12:50 — Bravo Zulu House: The first all-veteran sober house in the nation • 15:10 — Our Protector Development: Turning pain into purpose • 19:45 — The six-step kindness method: Ryan's TEDx Duluth framework ☑ Find us most everywhere! https://linktr.ee/kneetoknee #HumanConnection #AuthenticConnections #WellnessJourney

    25 min
  6. He Spent Years Thinking Something Was Wrong With Him ...Until He Discovered This - with David Hall

    Apr 22

    He Spent Years Thinking Something Was Wrong With Him ...Until He Discovered This - with David Hall

    Introvert strengths, deep connections & male loneliness — David Hall reveals the truth about quiet men. Insert Link Most men have been told their whole lives that being an introvert is something to overcome. In this powerful conversation, introversion expert and podcast host David Hall joins Mark Marrott to bust the biggest myths and flip the script on what it means to be quiet and strong. David shares the exact moment he stopped thinking something was wrong with him — and how understanding his introvert personality changed his relationships, his career, and his confidence forever. If you've ever felt misunderstood for being the guy who thinks before speaking, needs time alone, or prefers a great one-on-one conversation over a room full of strangers — this episode is for you. We dig into the neuroscience of introversion, practical strategies for building deeper connections, how introverts can master small talk without losing their soul, and the one thing you can do TODAY to strengthen your most important relationships. Chapters 00:00 — Welcome & Introduction to David Hall 02:00 — What Introversion Actually Means (And What It Doesn't) 06:30 — Introvert Strengths: Deep Thinking, Reflection & Innovation 10:30 — The Neuroscience of Introversion 14:00 — Practical Strategies for Introverts in Relationships & Work 19:35 — The One Thing You Can Do Today to Build Deeper Connections ☑ Find us most everywhere! https://linktr.ee/kneetoknee #HumanConnection #AuthenticConnections #WellnessJourney

    21 min
  7. Cops Are Better Communicators Than Many CEOs: Here's Why - Brad Zeeman

    Apr 15

    Cops Are Better Communicators Than Many CEOs: Here's Why - Brad Zeeman

    empathy, mentorship, human connection, active listening, career transition, transferable skills, Utah Highway Patrol, leadership, communication skills, personal growth, emotional intelligence, wellness, relationships, presence, trust, kindness, building connections, career reinvention, workplace communication, mindfulness, resilience, authentic storytelling, community support, personal development, meaningful conversations Meet Brad Zeeman — retired Utah Highway Patrolman turned senior safety manager — and discover how mentorship, active listening, empathy, and transferable skills can transform every relationship and career you'll ever have. Whether you're navigating a career transition, trying to build deeper human connections, or just wondering why some people make you feel seen while others don't, this conversation is going to hit home. Brad breaks down how meeting people where they are isn't a soft skill — it's the foundation of leadership, trust, and real personal growth. From the streets of the Utah Highway Patrol to Fortune 500 facilities across the country, the through-line has always been the same: people need to feel heard, and the men who figure that out change every room they walk into. This is KneeToKnee — real conversations for men who are done settling. Insert Link Chapters 00:00 — Introduction: Meet Brad Zeeman 01:24 — Brad & Mark's History: Working Together and the Larry Sagers Comparison 03:54 — Meeting People Where They Are: The Learn & Grow Framework 06:13 — Mentors Who Shaped Brad: Lessons from Law Enforcement 08:31 — Mark's Dad, a Moose in Alaska, and the Best Sales Advice He Ever Got 15:51 — The 360-Degree Leader: Leading Up, Down, and Across 18:20 — Career Reinvention: How Brad Translated a Law Enforcement Career into the Private Sector 23:07 — The One Thing: What Would Mark Marrott Do? Books & Resources Mentioned The 360 Degree Leader — John C. Maxwell ☑ Find us most everywhere! https://linktr.ee/kneetoknee #HumanConnection #AuthenticConnections #WellnessJourney

    28 min
  8. Is God Actually Disappointed in You — Or Is That Just Shame Talking? - Kurt Francom

    Apr 8

    Is God Actually Disappointed in You — Or Is That Just Shame Talking? - Kurt Francom

    What if shame — not lack of discipline — is the real reason men stay stuck? Kurt Francom built a 20-million-download podcast on human connection, mental health, and the healing power of authentic storytelling. In this conversation, we explore the difference between guilt and shame, why self-acceptance is the foundation of personal growth, and how vulnerability and mindfulness unlock real change. Kurt shares his leadership skills, his journey through resilience and emotional health, and how a vow of silence inside a three-day wilderness retreat became the most powerful tool he's seen for men's mental health. We talk about presence, trust, kindness, community support, and what overcoming shame actually looks like in a real conversation with someone you respect. If you've ever carried that quiet question — am I enough? — this episode is for you. Chapters: 0:00 — Introduction & Welcome 2:24 — Who Is Kurt Francom? Leading Saints & 20M Downloads 4:30 — Is God Disappointed in Me? The Book and the Shame Behind It 8:30 — Guilt vs. Shame: A Distinction That Changes Everything 14:35 — Warrior Heart: Three-Day Men's Retreats and Why They Work 20:00 — The One Thing: 10 Minutes of Silence and Reclaiming Your Identity Learn more about Leading Saints: https://leadingsaints.org/ Warrior Heart Retreats: https://awarriorheart.com/ Subscribe to KneeToKnee Audio: https://kneetoknee.riverside.com/ ☑ Find us most everywhere! https://linktr.ee/kneetoknee #HumanConnection #AuthenticConnections #WellnessJourney

    24 min
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KneeToKnee – Where the Magic Happens is the straight-talk podcast built for men who want real tools to get stronger—physically, mentally, emotionally, and as fathers and leaders. Not empty motivation. I’m Mark Marrott, and every week I sit knee-to-knee with powerful guests—men and women who’ve actually lived it: high-achieving dads, combat veterans, elite athletes, recovery warriors, therapists, coaches, and everyday guys who’ve clawed their way back from rock bottom. We dive deep into how real, intentional human connections become actual medicine for men in their prime years. The topics hit hard and stay practical: forging brotherhoods that keep you accountable, staying present as a dad without losing your edge, leading at work and home without burning out, bouncing back from injury, addiction, divorce, or career crashes, tying your fitness and metabolic health to the people who actually have your back, mastering emotional resilience without going soft, and building a purpose that lasts through all the midlife pressure. No therapy-speak. No fluff. Just raw stories, science-backed insights, hard-earned lessons, and actionable steps on the stuff men really wrestle with: isolation in a connected world, provider stress, testosterone and energy dips from disconnection, long-term friendships that fade, forgiveness that actually frees you, and the relationships that quietly make or break your health and your legacy. Because the strongest version of you isn’t built alone. The real magic of well-being happens when you’re connected—knee to knee—with people who refuse to let you go it solo.