Lab to Startup

Naresh Sunkara PhD

Hundreds of thousands of researchers around the world are working to improve life and address imminent threats to humanity. Often, the research ends up in the "Scientific valley of death" in the form of publications and patents that never see the light of the day. Welcome to "Lab to Startup" a podcast aimed at showcasing the effort needed to translate lab research to startups. The show has two main goals: 1. Sharing the stories of those scientists and engineers who have successfully founded startups based on the research at university and national labs. 2. Highlighting the resources and tools needed to help those aspiring to launch startups in the deeptech space. We also want this show to be a way to communicate those technology development stories to the general public (taxpayers funding the research) in the hope that they will continue to support such research and startups. About the host Naresh Sunkara, Ph.D. is a chemical biologist, entrepreneur and the founder and Executive Director of the Berkeley Postdoc Entrepreneurship Program at the University of California, Berkeley. He has been running this program for the past ten years that has helped graduate students and postdocs at UC Berkeley and Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory, and at several other universities in the US. He was previously a postdoc at UC Berkeley developing lipid nanoparticles for delivery of mRNA based drugs targeting viruses and cancers.

  1. 1d ago

    Ending a 100-Year quest to replace toxic Hexavalent Chromium without sacrificing cost, speed, or performance

    Mehdi Kargar, Ph.D., is the CEO and Cofounder of Maxterial. They arecommercializing an affordable metallic coating to protect surfaces against extreme environments and to reduce the use of hexavalent chrome, and cyanides, known to cause cancers. This is the story about how Maxterial cracked the code to replacing Hexavalent Chromium without sacrificing cost, speed, or performance, and the decade of near-deaths, grit, and serendipity it took to build a deep tech revolution.   Maxterial received seed-stage funds from Peter Thiel's Breakout Labs, then backed by the Corporate Venture arms of Saint Gobain and Anglo American; the NSF, and now the U.S. Department of Defense'. In a major development, the U.S. House Appropriations Committee has approved a bill to provide $5M in 2027 for the further evaluation and adoption of their technology, MaxShield.   Shownotes https://www.maxterial.com/ Problems with hexavalent chromium (also known as chromium-6) and why it has been difficult to  Product ecosystem fit: Founder is basically having to create a whole ecosystem for the product while developing good ROI for everyone involved. Solution: Nickel & Molybdenum alloy Listen to customers! They might be looking at a different use for your technology Evolution of technology: From grad school (Virginia Tech) to startup- pivot from focusing on publications to patents Serendipity: Scanning Electron Microscopy image that lead to bigger use cases As a founder, be less rigid!  Pitch to Peter Thiel's investment arm https://breakout.vc/ that won them over by saying: "Good entrepreneurs are like a superbug (MRSA). I am going to build this startup successfully!"  Move from Blacksburg, VA (Virginia Tech) to Silicon Valley: Why moving to better startup ecosystems was important For startups/aspiring founders, trade shows are a better place to understand industry needs Evolution of customers A "No" from anyone during the journey can change into Yes by persistence- always work towards it Invest in relations: People invest in people Kindness of strangers Working with the government: "Applying for SBIR and getting money is not working with the government!" Understanding the ecosystem: Working with DoD, lobbyists, retired personnel from armed forces Maxterial's MaxShield aims to replace hard chrome in cylinder use

    Ending a 100-Year quest to replace toxic Hexavalent Chromium without sacrificing cost, speed, or performance
  2. Mar 3

    Biotech's New Rules: Tight Capital, Hard Science, AI, and Survival in 2026

    Doug Crawford, Ph.D., is the founder of MBC BioLabs and also a Managing General Partner of Mission BioCapital. Doug's goal is to help entrepreneurial scientists create successful startups. His dream is that every entrepreneurial scientist with a dream be given a chance.  Since its founding, this program has helped launch 500 companies and helped raise over $20 billion in capital. Robert Blazej, Ph.D., is a Partner at Mission BioCapital and Director at MBC BioLabs. He is a passionate biotechnologist with a diverse skillset spanning business, life science, engineering and intellectual property. Robert Blazej brings 10 years of operational experience both as a successful entrepreneur and as a leader within an international corporation. Previously, Robert was CEO of Allopartis Biotechnologies, a company he co-founded with the vision that microdroplets would transform the scale and pace of life science research. Allopartis was acquired by Novozymes in 2013. This conversation can be considered as the 2026 State of the Union for early-stage biotech. The biotech landscape has shifted drastically- we moved from the grow-at-all-costs zero-interest-rate era to a world of tight capital and high discipline. The undisputed capital of biotech in Boston is facing unprecedented lab vacancies. AI is dominating every pitch deck. And China has rapidly evolved from a manufacturing hub into a multi-billion-dollar discovery engine.   Shownotes https://mbcbiolabs.com/; https://www.missionbaycapital.com/ How did Doug and Robert meet? Progress Mission Biolabs made in the past 4 years God's eye view of the biotech startup world- What is being built? DNA of the founders: repeat founders on the rise Capital restraints and advances in science made the current period the best time to launch biotech startups. With the advent of AI, we should not be making knowable mistakes Companies are using AI to jumpstart what they are going to work on Discovery costs are the overall cost of drug discovery- So, don't get too excited! How to address reduction in NIH non-dilutive funding ⅓ of startups in incubators are serial entrepreneurs; ⅓ are mid-career scientists from established companies  Comparing Boston and the Bay area biotech ecosystems 73% of pharma's revenues are from discoveries sourced externally Alternate models: Arena bioworks, Arc Institute, Chan Zuckerberg institute Book recommendation - Thinking in Bets Actual impact of AI at Mission Biolabs Where Ai might have the most impact- healthcare delivery? China affairs: Regulatory changes, investments, return of talent European biotech affairs

    Biotech's New Rules: Tight Capital, Hard Science, AI, and Survival in 2026
  3. Jan 20

    Cold Plasma Meets Machine Learning: The SirenOpt Story of Solving Manufacturing's Nanoscale Blind Spot

    Jared O'Leary, Ph.D., is the co-founder and CEO of SirenOpt, and Ali Mesbah, Ph.D. is his cofounder and also his former PhD advisor. Ali is a Professor of Chemical Engineering at UC Berkeley.   SirenOpt is a Berkeley spin-out that is solving one of manufacturing's biggest blind spots. Their PlasmaSens platform uses cold atmospheric plasma and AI to non-destructively inspect thin films and nanomaterials in real-time—catching defects and inconsistencies that traditional methods miss entirely. They're helping manufacturers of batteries, semiconductors, and aerospace components accelerate R&D, optimize production, and dramatically improve quality control.   In this episode of Lab to startup, we talk about how the industry currently solves the problems, and how SirenOpt is improving them; Then we deep dive into their technology; the origins of the startup from research at UC Berkeley; customer discovery, especially importance of relationship building and how it is different from just interviewing potential customers; lessons from working with industry; their fundraising journey and many other topics including Jared's experience working at Theranos.   Shownotes: https://www.sirenopt.com/ Advance coatings, thin films and micro/nano scale materials are critical in several industries. But manufacturing these components are inherently probabilistic SirenOpt providing hardware and software solutions for real time tracking Overview of current solutions   SirenOpt technology overview Initial medical applications Challenges with cold atmospheric pressure plasma Transition from an academic project to startup journey Feedback from industry Lessons from Jared working at Theranos Importance of transparency and building trust while working with customers Importance of academic thinking while building deeptech startups Market exploration: Foray into battery industry Customer discovery vs relationship building Support from Ali: from an academia-industry relationship point of view Venture scalability: Demonstrating the size of the market Working with semiconductor industry Lessons from working with academic PI as your cofounder Fundraising journey Role played by accelerators and incubators: Berkeley Skydeck & Activate Lessons from hiring Long term vision & lessons transitioning from academic scientist to a startup CEO

    Cold Plasma Meets Machine Learning: The SirenOpt Story of Solving Manufacturing's Nanoscale Blind Spot
  4. 12/09/2025

    Designing the Future of Drug Delivery: How AI is Solving RNA's Biggest Challenge

    Yogev Debbi and Prof Avi Schroeder (Technion Israel Institute of Technology), co-founded Mana bio along with Dr. Kira Radinsky and Roy Nevo. They are leveraging data, machine learning and high throughput screening to design novel Lipid NanoParticles for targeted extrahepatic delivery of nucleic acid therapeutics and vaccines. Lipid nanoparticles are microscopic fatty bubbles that deliver genetic medicines into your cells—think of them as the FedEx trucks of molecular biology. Remember the mRNA vaccines that saved millions during COVID? They used lipid nano particles as the delivery vehicle.. The little secret behind those vaccines is that we got lucky. Those lipid nanoparticles worked beautifully for the liver and immune system. But if you try to deliver RNA to your brain, your lungs, or a tumor, those would be a massive failure! Scientists are still running thousands of experiments hoping to stumble onto the right formulation. This actually was my postdoc work as well, which makes this episode very special. I always wished there was a better way to design these delivery vehicles—and that's exactly what today's guests have built with AI." We talk about how they founded and currently building Mana Bio- a big part around how biologists and chemists can interact with technologists, especially data and AI geeks to build something important. Their story provides a great framework for scientists and tech folks to work together. Shownotes: https://www.mana.bio/ How Avi got started using data/AI to design LNPs Optimizing LNP formulations targeting different organs Working with Bob Langer and Dan Anderson @MIT Yogev transitioning to gene editing Defining the problem & cross disciplinary conversations and projects Language that helps interactions between scientists and software/AI folks Deepdive into the platform- building data sets Data scraping, validation, improvisation, new data generation (both positive and negative data) Cleaning data and normalization Work in the wet lab: 'I trust my colleagues and believe data can be replicated" Data moats: Proprietary data vs public data Daily routine in the lab and interactions with the data/AI team Cross Functional dynamics Scientists trying to save money vs optimizing for more valuable time Lab hypothesis predictions vs AI predictions: competitive spirit Factoring in errors by the machines and humans Business model: Building customized solutions for drug delivery Potentially becoming a pharma company Regulatory affairs Fears that keep them up Dynamics of a diverse founding team: Roy Nevo and Dr. Kira Radinsky (the other two co founders) Message to academia: "Publish more data- including failures. This will accelerate science" Omri Drory, Kira Radinsky https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5hX3vq3iNk

    Designing the Future of Drug Delivery: How AI is Solving RNA's Biggest Challenge
  5. 05/20/2025

    Solving the CRISPR delivery problem using a proprietary peptide-based platform

    Dana Foss and Ross Wilson are the cofounders of Editpep, a biotech startup focused on developing CRISPR-based therapeutics. They are using a proprietary peptide-based delivery platform that enables targeted delivery to specific cell types, particularly for hard-to-reach areas like the brain. While Dana Foss is the CEO, Ross Wilson is also an Assistant Adjunct Professor of Molecular and Cell Biology and also the Director of Therapeutic Delivery at the Innovative Genomics Institute at the University of California, Berkeley. He is one of those very few academics that co-founded a startup and is very active in building Editpep. Ross explains how he does it all so well! Dana was  previously a postdoc in Ross Wilson's lab, where she developed the technology. Ross was a postdoc in Nobel Laureate Jennifer Doudna's lab. Now he has his own lab and collaborates with Jennifer Doudna at the Innovative Genomics Institute.  In this episode of lab to startup, we will explore their initial decisions that lead to launching the startup; existing CRISPR delivery technologies, their challenges, and then do a deep dive into their delivery technology. opportunities,; fundraising efforts, and their future goals. Shownotes https://www.editpep.bio/ CRISPR Delivery problem and current solutions Existing solutions like AV, LNPs are mostly limited to mice Ribonucleoprotein, a complex of RNA and protein (RNP): Technology deep dive Outsiders bringing in fresh perspective Dana transitioning out of academia: working on a shared goal Hard to shepard the technology towards the patient by depending on a third party Self motivation and gumption: Ways to move technologies out of the lab Early stage co-founder chemistry Ross's innovative role being an academic and entrepreneur Fundraising journey Open mindedness to non-traditional investors Investors: Berkeley Skydeck,  Lindonlight Collective Filters for selecting investors Getting to market: Parallels from other delivery companies like Alnylam Counterintuitive decisions Future goals Connecting the dots

    Solving the CRISPR delivery problem using a proprietary peptide-based platform
  6. 03/11/2025

    Altitude Lab Fund- Supporting healthcare founders in challenging times

    Chandana Haque is the Executive Director of Altitude Lab, a healthcare startup accelerator building a community of diverse entrepreneurs in Utah. Altitude Lab was cofounded in 2020 by Chandana and Chris Gibson, the co-founder & CEO of Recursion in Salt Lake City. They recently announced the launch of a pre-seed venture fund aimed at supporting early-stage biotech startups impacted by recent federal funding policy shifts.   This pre-seed venture fund is dedicated to funding the highest impact ideas transitioning from basic research to industry. In partnership with Altitude Lab, they provide capital, lab space, and mentorship to high-potential SBIR reviewed companies, offering continuity for startups affected by recent funding policy changes while strengthening Salt Lake City's position as a national biotech hub.   We talk about the Altitude fund, Altitude lab, lessons learned from other ecosystems; support from Recursion, better ways to support healthcare founders and many other topics.   Shownotes Altitude lab fund: a pre-seed venture fund dedicated to funding the highest impact ideas transitioning from basic research to industry.  Fund announcement: https://ir.recursion.com/news-releases/news-release-details/altitude-lab-launches-pre-seed-venture-fund-anchored-recursion Altitude labs: a health care accelerator building a community of diverse entrepreneurs in Utah Lessons learned (and unlearned) from Boston and Bay Area startup ecosystems Criteria for selection: Technology vs market readiness Founder fit, connecting founders to the right resources Turning a scrappy startup to a fundable one Overhyped areas in biotech Finding winners and lost opportunities Support from Recursion Pharma  Supporting diversity: Anecdotes of diverse founders Support from the University of Utah

    Altitude Lab Fund- Supporting healthcare founders in challenging times
  7. 12/10/2024

    Partnering to accelerate therapeutics: A primer on forming alliances and their management

    Monica Rosoff, the founder and CEO of LBBAL™ Alianza. Prior to launching Alianza, Monica was a partnering executive with roles of increasing seniority at Genentech, Gilead, Kite and Exelixis. Over the course of over two decades, she had the opportunity to lead and participate in a wide diversity of deals, negotiations, diligence exercises, alliances, technology transfers, M&A integrations, dispute resolution negotiations, amendments and terminations–at all stages of the drug development and commercialization lifecycle and in multiple therapeutic areas. Dr. Rosoff earned a doctorate in Pharmacology from the University of Washington and conducted her postdoctoral work at Stanford. We talked about lessons learned from her experiences in alliance management, especially for early stage startups.  Shownotes Monica Rosoff https://lbbalalianza.com/ Monica's entry into alliance management Principles that guide a good partnership: What's best for the patient? Find synergies, timing and motivations Who to approach at a big pharma when identifying a partner? Evaluating motivations of a big pharma: Get specific Building trust Performing due diligence-How? Power dynamics: How to deal with a big partner when you have a power imbalance? Role of lawyers Communicating failures Have a list of "To-dont's" as opposed to "To-do" list Conflicts might be important Repeating problems: Lessons learned How to prepare for unexpected changes at big companies? Conflict resolution: What to pick fights on? Allocating resources

    Partnering to accelerate therapeutics: A primer on forming alliances and their management
  8. 09/10/2024

    From Pitches to Stories: Transforming Complex Ideas into Engaging Narratives

    Zack Shildhorn is an investing Partner at venture firm Lux Capital. He played multiple key roles that helped the firm scale from less than $100M to more than $4B in assets under management. After witnessing thousands of pitches, he saw that even the most disruptive startups often struggled to develop effective narratives. Having worked closely with leading technology companies as an investor and Board member, he brings a unique ability to connect with key stakeholders and distill complex ideas into engaging and relatable presentations. In order to help founders beyond Lux, He launched a firm called Series Z, to help a select group of tech companies and funds bring their vision to life. Zack also recently partnered with Khosla ventures to help founders there as well.  Zack kindly agreed to share some of the lessons from his experience teaching the art of storytelling to founders and VCs. I think you will benefit tremendously from this episode.  Show Notes: Series Z: https://www.series-z.co/ Zack Schildhorn: https://x.com/zacktrak Most founders are in a challenged position Repetition, iteration, feedback Founders have the disadvantage of not knowing an investor's mindset Selling vision: Why should investors care? Framing your pitch: Ways to capture investor's attention How to appeal to the emotions of an investor? Fear and greed Starting a presentation with words and not slides Presenting technical idea: How not to inundate listeners with too much data Reframing problems: Addressing known apprehensions How to not get offended by a question or being defensive? Media links: Power of Narrative for Entrepreneurs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-llii7frwco Framing your pitch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4V89rywlR0 Pitching investors: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYkOoRJGuvk

    From Pitches to Stories: Transforming Complex Ideas into Engaging Narratives

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Hundreds of thousands of researchers around the world are working to improve life and address imminent threats to humanity. Often, the research ends up in the "Scientific valley of death" in the form of publications and patents that never see the light of the day. Welcome to "Lab to Startup" a podcast aimed at showcasing the effort needed to translate lab research to startups. The show has two main goals: 1. Sharing the stories of those scientists and engineers who have successfully founded startups based on the research at university and national labs. 2. Highlighting the resources and tools needed to help those aspiring to launch startups in the deeptech space. We also want this show to be a way to communicate those technology development stories to the general public (taxpayers funding the research) in the hope that they will continue to support such research and startups. About the host Naresh Sunkara, Ph.D. is a chemical biologist, entrepreneur and the founder and Executive Director of the Berkeley Postdoc Entrepreneurship Program at the University of California, Berkeley. He has been running this program for the past ten years that has helped graduate students and postdocs at UC Berkeley and Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory, and at several other universities in the US. He was previously a postdoc at UC Berkeley developing lipid nanoparticles for delivery of mRNA based drugs targeting viruses and cancers.