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This video podcast brings together Agile, Systems Thinking, Complexity Thinking, and Product Models in a way that’s easy to understand. In each episode, we explore innovative strategies with leading experts in leadership. Join us to learn how to help your organization thrive and lead in today’s fast-changing, complex, and highly competitive world.

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    #38 - Jurgen Appelo

    Summary In this episode of the Leading Complexity podcast, Michael Göthe interviews Jurgen Appelo, an influential figure in management and agile practices. They discuss Jurgen's journey from focusing on management to exploring the intersection of AI and human collaboration. Jurgen introduces the concept of 'networked agentic organizations' and emphasizes the importance of understanding the human angle in AI integration.  The conversation delves into the evolving role of leadership in AI-driven environments, the complexities of modern work, and the future of agile practices. Jurgen shares insights on how AI can enhance team dynamics and the necessity for leaders to adapt to these changes. Takeaways Jurgen Appelo has evolved from focusing on management to exploring AI's impact on organizations. AI is reshaping the role of managers and leaders in organizations. The concept of 'networked agentic organizations' combines human and AI collaboration. Leaders must distinguish between managing humans and machines. AI can handle complicated tasks, leaving complex problems for humans. Team sizes are shrinking as AI becomes integral to collaboration. Leaders need to develop skills to handle complex, unsolvable problems. AI can provide real-time feedback on team dynamics and individual contributions. The future of agile practices will focus on speed and adaptability rather than rigid structures. AI will push organizations towards greater agility and responsiveness.

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This video podcast brings together Agile, Systems Thinking, Complexity Thinking, and Product Models in a way that’s easy to understand. In each episode, we explore innovative strategies with leading experts in leadership. Join us to learn how to help your organization thrive and lead in today’s fast-changing, complex, and highly competitive world.

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