Leading for Deeper Learning with Ulster BOCES

Dr. Jonah Schenker

LEADING FOR DEEPER LEARNING with ULSTER BOCES is a podcast where shared stories serve as the roadmap for navigating changes in education. The series is hosted by Dr. Jonah Schenker, District Superintendent of Ulster Board of Cooperative Educational Services (BOCES) in New York State, featuring conversations with educational leaders, educators, and thought partners. Dr. Schenker and his guests explore key questions, share stories, and elevate student and educator voices to guide the journey from the current state of education to the future being built. Listeners will enjoy the insights and first-hand accounts of how educators are working ro reshape tomorrow’s educational landscape. To learn more about Ulster BOCES visit https://www.ulsterboces.org/

Episodes

  1. 5d ago

    Leading through Transformation: Superintendents Discuss the Future of Learning

    What does it mean to lead school systems through a period of significant change while keeping students at the center of every decision? Together, Ulster County superintendents discuss the challenge of balancing innovation with stability as schools rethink traditional approaches to grading, engagement, and readiness through the work of New York Inspires. The conversation highlights the importance of student voice, authentic learning experiences, and community trust-building, while emphasizing that meaningful transformation requires more than adding new initiatives—it requires schools to examine longstanding systems, create space for deeper learning, and design pathways that prepare all students to thrive in an evolving world. Three superintendents with varying experience, district demographics, and community relationships share their voices on what this transformation means: Dr. Gwendolyn Roraback (Saugerties Central School District), Dr. Paul Padalino (Kingston City School District), and Anthony White (Wallkill Central School District). Discover more tools, updates, and resources for NY Inspires–including how to get your copy of the NY Inspires Transformation Design Cycles Playbook that Dr. Betty A. Rosa, NYS Commissioner of Education, has mentioned in communication to the field—at our dedicated NY Inspires hub. IN THIS EPISODE 00:00 – Introduction & Meet the Superintendents  04:20 – District Contexts & Community Differences  07:30 – What Students Need to Thrive  10:00 – Engagement, Joy & Student-Driven Learning  13:00 – Rethinking Success & Readiness  19:30 – Leadership in Complex Times  27:00 – New York Inspires & System Transformation  33:30 – Why This Moment Feels Different  38:00 – Building Community-Driven Change  49:20 – What Schools Need to Stop Doing  56:30 – Expanding Opportunity for Every Learner  59:50 – Final Reflections: Creating the Conditions for Success https://www.ulsterboces.org/about-us/news-communications/podcast

    1h 2m
  2. Leading For Deeper Learning with Dr. Jonah Schenker

    Feb 11

    Leading For Deeper Learning with Dr. Jonah Schenker

    Season 2 is here! Leading for Deeper Learning with Ulster BOCES is back—and this year we’re focusing on NY Inspires, New York State’s multi-year transformation of what it means to be a graduate. We took time to thoughtfully shape this season so it speaks directly to the changes ahead in New York and the promise of NY Inspires. We’re excited to get started and to share conversations that support meaningful learning across systems, schools, communities, and—most importantly—students. Season 2 kicks off with a clear message from Dr. Jonah Schenker: the old model of school isn’t built for the world our students are stepping into—and the NY Inspires initiative gives us a once-in-a-generation opportunity to change that. Join Dr. Schenker as he explores why this moment is energizing: we finally have permission, momentum, and a pathway to build learning environments grounded in belonging, relevance, equity, and real-world readiness. How will this show up in our schools? NY Inspires helps students by shifting school from a system built around compliance and sorting to one built around readiness, belonging, and real opportunity. It supports students to: • Graduate with skills that matter, not just credits • Demonstrate learning in multiple, meaningful ways, not just by testing • Access authentic pathways, like internships, projects, etc., aligned to passions and future goals • Experience stronger belonging, relevance, and engagement • Succeed through multiple pathways while meeting high expectations This season will spotlight what it takes to lead change well—sharing bright spots, hard questions, and real learning across the field as New York moves from current state to future state. Subscribe and join the work ahead—because the opportunities this creates for students are too important to miss. CHAPTER DETAILS Episode Chapters 00:00 – Welcome & Season 2 Overview Why Leading for Deeper Learning is returning with NY Inspires as the central theme. 01:00 – What Is NY Inspires? A brief history of the initiative and why New York is rethinking what it means to graduate. 02:25 – The Four NY Inspires Transformations • Portrait of a Graduate • Reimagining credits and learning experiences • Decoupling Regents exams from graduation requirements • One diploma with multiple seals and endorsements 04:30 – Why the Traditional School Model Needs to Change Why systems built on time, compliance, and sorting no longer serve students or society. 05:45 – Human-Centered Design & Empathy Work Why listening to students, educators, families, and communities must come before implementation. 07:15 – Designing for Students Furthest from Opportunity How equity-driven design benefits all learners and strengthens the entire system. 09:30 – What NY Inspires Makes Possible for Students More relevant learning, authentic pathways, meaningful assessment, and a stronger sense of purpose. 11:30 – Leading Change Well What leaders must rethink—time, schedules, calendars, and systems—to align values with practice. 13:30 – Season 2 Roadmap What to expect this season: reflections, research, and conversations with leaders across the field. 15:00 – Invitation to the Field Why innovation in isolation is a disservice—and how shared learning moves the work forward. https://www.ulsterboces.org/about-us/news-communications/podcast

    23 min
  3. 04/21/2025

    Educator Edge and Instructional Services: Creating Conditions for Leading and Learning

    How can leaders in non-student-facing roles cultivate a strong leadership culture while keeping students at the center? In this episode of Leading for Deeper Learning, host Dr. Jonah Schenker, District Superintendent of Ulster BOCES, explores this critical question, as well as dives into how to cultivate the conditions needed for dreaming and designing a new future for education. The discussion highlights how Educator Edge supports teachers beyond traditional models to include the integration of culture-building with instruction—ensuring that joy, learning, and student voice remain at the heart of education. The conversation also highlights the role of the Instructional Services team at Educator Edge in designing meaningful professional development experiences that empower educators and foster a culture where deeper learning thrives. Through CREW structures–which center on the power of relationships–and deeper learning practices, Ulster BOCES professional learning offerings help schools foster an environment where educators feel supported, students are heard, and teaching is infused with joy, purpose, and possibility. Featuring:   Sarah Dudley Lemek - Assistant Superintendent for Learning & Design - Educator Edge Dr. Juli Ross-Kleinman and Yaa-Yaa Whaley-Williams, both Supervisors of Instructional Services at Educator Edge https://www.ulsterboces.org/about-us/news-communications/podcast

    55 min
  4. 02/11/2025

    Redignifying Career & Technical Education: Pathways to Success

    Recorded on site in the Phoenix lab at the Ulster BOCES Career & Technical Center in Port Ewen, NY, in this episode of Leading for Deeper Learning our host Dr. Jonah Schenker (District Superintendent Ulster BOCES) leads a powerful conversation with Peter Harris (Assistant Superintendent for Learning & Design), Stephen Casa (Supervisor of Workplace Learning), and Karen Riche (Assistant Principal for Career & Technical Education). Together, they explore the transformative impact of Career & Technical Education (CTE) on students, communities, and the workforce. The discussion highlights how Ulster BOCES CTE redefines learning by equipping young scholars and young professionals with technical, workplace and personal skills, a sense of identity, and a strong sense of community. With over 60% of CTE graduates pursuing college and others directly entering the workforce, the program offers pathways that prepare students for more than just the next four years—it prepares them for life. Key topics include the importance of partnering with industries to create real-world, equity-based learning opportunities, fostering collaboration and joy through project-based learning, and breaking down outdated systems that limit student potential. Karen, a proud CTE graduate herself, shares how the program transformed her life, proving that CTE is not a secondary option but a vital pathway to success. The conversation also dives into CTE's role as a cornerstone of economic and workforce development, with Ulster BOCES growing internship model and innovative plans for the future space at iPark 87 in Kingston, NY that blend education, industry, and community. Tune in to discover how Ulster BOCES is leading the charge in creating a regional hub for employability, opportunity, and lifelong learning. Featuring:   Peter Harris, Assistant Superintendent for Learning & Design - Career Pathways Programs Stephen Casa, Supervisor of Workplace Learning, Career Pathways Programs Karen Riche Assistant Principal for Career & Technical Education https://www.ulsterboces.org/about-us/news-communications/podcast

    58 min
  5. 01/16/2025

    Building Bridges: How Systems and Structures Drive Deeper Learning

    Recorded on location as a snowstorm started to brew through the Ulster BOCES Career & Technical Center in Port Ewen, NY, this episode of Leading for Deeper Learning brings together Amanda Stokes, Assistant Superintendent for Administration, and Ed Forgit, Assistant Superintendent for Operations, for an in-depth conversation about the vital work happening behind the scenes to support learning for all—students and staff alike. Amanda and Ed share how Ulster BOCES aligns its non-student-facing systems, structures, and processes with our "North Star" vision. From financial planning and resource allocation to fostering belonging and equity across the agency, they reveal how every role—whether in custodial services, food operations, or technology—ties back to the same guiding principles of equity, collaboration, and academic excellence. In this episode, we explore how equity-based practices, such as budgeting and technology, create a sense of belonging for all learners. We discuss the collaboration between operational teams and educators to align their efforts and build systems that support deeper learning, as well as innovative approaches like empathy-building, cross-training, and breaking down "us vs. them" dynamics across divisions. Finally, we highlight how intentional professional learning helps non-instructional staff connect their work to classrooms, showing its direct impact on students and programs. Amanda and Ed discuss how focusing on the "why" of the North Star enables teams to transcend traditional silos, creating a community where everyone pulls in the same direction. Tune in to hear how Ulster BOCES is building a foundation for a brighter future through strategic systems and collaboration. Featuring:   Amanda Stokes, Assistant Superintendent for Administration at Ulster BOCES Ed Forgit, Assistant Superintendent for Operations at Ulster BOCES https://www.ulsterboces.org/about-us/news-communications/podcast

    43 min

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LEADING FOR DEEPER LEARNING with ULSTER BOCES is a podcast where shared stories serve as the roadmap for navigating changes in education. The series is hosted by Dr. Jonah Schenker, District Superintendent of Ulster Board of Cooperative Educational Services (BOCES) in New York State, featuring conversations with educational leaders, educators, and thought partners. Dr. Schenker and his guests explore key questions, share stories, and elevate student and educator voices to guide the journey from the current state of education to the future being built. Listeners will enjoy the insights and first-hand accounts of how educators are working ro reshape tomorrow’s educational landscape. To learn more about Ulster BOCES visit https://www.ulsterboces.org/

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