Leading from Being

Marti Spiegelman & Todd Hoskins

Leading from Being with Marti Spiegelman and Todd Hoskins delves into the untapped dimensions of leadership, weaving together the possibilities within full consciousness and indigenous wisdom. This isn't another "conscious leadership" podcast – it's an invitation to experience leadership beyond our thinking minds, accessing depths of human experience that most leadership conversations never touch. Drawing from Marti's deep work in 'precision consciousness,' grounded in both Harvard biochemistry and three indigenous wisdom traditions, and Todd's expertise in organizational design and natural systems, each episode bridges principles and practices of leadership with timeless ways of knowing. Together, they guide listeners beyond conventional paradigms to explore how accessing our innate consciousness can transform not just how we lead, but how we exist in relationship with ourselves, our teams, communities, and the living systems around us. Perfect for leaders seeking to transcend traditional frameworks, whether you're navigating complexity in the boardroom, catalyzing transformation in your organization, or fostering change in your community.

Episodes

  1. 4d ago

    Episode 37: Landscapes of Being - Ecotones

    Send us Fan Mail In the fourth episode of their Landscapes series, Marti and Todd explore ecotones — the zones in nature where different environments meet and interact, generating new forms of life that neither could produce alone. Todd opens with the etymology of ecotone — eco from the Greek for household, the living relationships of a place, and tone from the Greek for tension and stretching, the same root that gives us the vibration of a musical string and the vitality of a tonic. From the edge effect in ecology to the mangrove's capacity to generate what neither land nor sea could produce alone, Todd and Marti explore how biodiversity concentrates at edges and what that suggests about creativity, consciousness, and connection. The conversation moves from ecology to the ecotones within ourselves and between us. Marti introduces the indigenous understanding of border work — tending the edges so exchange can happen — and the Andean principle of complementarities, where different things come together to create something new that benefits everything. Todd challenges the geographic bias of center and edge, suggesting that sometimes the edge is the center, and that creativity lives in the stretching between what we know and what is arriving. Together they explore ecotones as a model for organizational partnerships, healing through participation, and the human capacity to steward the creation of the never-before-imagined. In Marti's Potentialities essay, "Infinite Arrivals," she reflects on how potentialities are not far away but always in motion toward us — and that the empty, spacious moments we often resist are themselves carrying vital information. Drawing on graphic design's principle of white space, she invites listeners to consider that they may be the very conduit for the next infinite arrival the world needs.

    1h 4m
  2. Mar 7

    Episode 36: Landscapes of Being - Wayfinding

    Send us Fan Mail Wayfinding once meant discovering one's path through never-before-encountered territory, step by experiential step — the opposite of its modern meaning, which is following signs through spaces already fully mapped. This inversion becomes the episode's animating question: what have we lost when we stopped reading the intelligence of living territories and started looking for the right playbook? The conversation moves through Wade Davis's writings on dead reckoning, the Polynesian navigators who learned the speech of the Pacific through wave color and wind, and Andean farmers who read astronomical conjunction to time their planting. These examples ground a larger exploration of wayfinding as dialogue — the same capacity applies to how a new CEO might listen to the living speech of an organization rather than adjusting its rule book. The episode concludes with both hosts reflecting on what it means to find our way rather than the way: an orientation toward living in connection. Todd's Potentialities essay "At the Threshold" extends this into the territory of risk, tracing two forgotten etymologies — the reef navigators had to track and the gift of providence that comes through genuine exchange — and finding in the figure of Hermes a guide who moves with uncertainty rather than eliminating it. For leaders caught between recklessness and paralysis, this episode offers a more fundamental shift: restoring connection with the territory itself brings us all toward home.

    1h 3m
  3. 11/12/2025

    Episode 35: Landscapes - Animals Build Ecosystems with Simon Mustoe

    Send us Fan Mail What if 50% of wildlife species are actually recovering—and no one's talking about it? Wildlife ecologist Simon Mustoe challenges the catastrophe narratives dominating conservation, revealing a radically different picture of what's happening on Earth. In this Landscapes episode, Simon explores how animals don't just inhabit ecosystems—they build them. From whales fertilizing ocean food webs to elephants shaping forests, wildlife carries the cultural knowledge and behaviors that create the stability we depend on. He introduces the concept of the "air gap"—the space between our minds and Earth—and why floating brains that can move through landscapes make animals the builders of living systems. Hosts Marti Spiegelman and Todd Hoskins dive deep with Simon into questions that challenge conventional thinking: What if the greatest obstacle to conservation is constant human intervention? What if "doing less" could achieve more? How do we shift from control to participation in the ecosystems we're part of? The conversation weaves together original human wisdom and modern ecology, examining how collective knowing surpasses individual scientific prediction, why humans need to remember they're animals too, and what it means to let wildlife lead the restoration of our world. Marti's Potentialities segment explores the power of awe as an evolutionary force—and why our linear minds trap us from experiencing the very rapture that could change everything. Topics include: rewilding consciousness, the paradox of action versus awareness, Tom Brown Jr.'s teaching on sensory capacities, the Yaqui understanding of perception as the core of being human, and why dreaming about wildlife might be the truest sign you're connected to life. Guest: Simon Mustoe, wildlife ecologist and author of How to Survive the Next 100 Years: Lessons From Nature and Wildlife in the Balance

    1h 22m
  4. 05/12/2025

    Episode 32: Stepping into Belonging

    Send us Fan Mail In this second installment of "The Problem with Problems" series, hosts Marti Spiegelman and Todd Hoskins explore how our dualistic worldview impacts our sense of belonging. They discuss how a binary "either/or" perspective shrinks our awareness to two dimensions, forcing us to see ourselves as either included or excluded, which fundamentally limits our creative capacity and connection to the world. Marti and Todd propose that true belonging isn't about fitting in with specific groups but rather about recognizing our inherent membership in the greater whole—the living universe. They suggest that when we shift our awareness away from self-reference and into direct sensory experience of the world around us, we can discover that belonging is already guaranteed and unconditional. Throughout their conversation, Marti and Todd look into how this shift in orientation transforms our relationship with problems, creativity, and collective action. They explore how indigenous cultures maintain connections to something larger than ego structures and how our modern disconnection from Nature places excessive pressure on human relationships for validation. The episode concludes with Todd's potentialities essay on "Sinuosity"—the value of winding, responsive paths versus our cultural obsession with directness and efficiency—and how embracing our natural rhythms might lead to more authentic ways of being in the world.

    59 min

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Leading from Being with Marti Spiegelman and Todd Hoskins delves into the untapped dimensions of leadership, weaving together the possibilities within full consciousness and indigenous wisdom. This isn't another "conscious leadership" podcast – it's an invitation to experience leadership beyond our thinking minds, accessing depths of human experience that most leadership conversations never touch. Drawing from Marti's deep work in 'precision consciousness,' grounded in both Harvard biochemistry and three indigenous wisdom traditions, and Todd's expertise in organizational design and natural systems, each episode bridges principles and practices of leadership with timeless ways of knowing. Together, they guide listeners beyond conventional paradigms to explore how accessing our innate consciousness can transform not just how we lead, but how we exist in relationship with ourselves, our teams, communities, and the living systems around us. Perfect for leaders seeking to transcend traditional frameworks, whether you're navigating complexity in the boardroom, catalyzing transformation in your organization, or fostering change in your community.