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Leadership development is overlooked in contemporary medical education, yet medical students and physicians find themselves in leadership roles from the beginning of their training. Medical leadership is complex and we hope to provide a resource and space for medical trainees- ourselves included- to grow and learn how to be better leaders. We hope to educate and motivate others to further develop themselves as leaders in healthcare.

Leading the Rounds Caleb Sokolowski & Peter Dimitrion

    • Health & Fitness
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Leadership development is overlooked in contemporary medical education, yet medical students and physicians find themselves in leadership roles from the beginning of their training. Medical leadership is complex and we hope to provide a resource and space for medical trainees- ourselves included- to grow and learn how to be better leaders. We hope to educate and motivate others to further develop themselves as leaders in healthcare.

    Wellness is NOT Yoga and Granola with Dr. Tait Shanafelt

    Wellness is NOT Yoga and Granola with Dr. Tait Shanafelt

    In this episode we interview Dr. Tait Shanafelt. Dr. Shanafelt is a Jeanie and Stewart Ritchie Professor of Medicine, Chief Wellness Officer, and associate dean at Stanford University School of Medicine. He is the co-author, with one of our former guests Steven Swenson, of “Mayo Clinic Strategies to Reduce Burnout”. He is credited for bringing physician-burnout to the forefront of healthcare discussion. He is a leader in the field of physician wellness and healthcare team efficiency. He has published numerous works in the field of physician well being and his studies in this area have been cited by CNN, USA Today, and The New York Times.

    We hope you enjoy this episode where we talk about his book, why wellness initiatives often fall flat, and how we can build a positive work environment. 

    Welcome to leading the rounds 

    Questions we asked: 
    How has the pandemic changed the ideas you wrote into “Mayo Clinic Strategies to Reduce Burnout”? What systemic issues in healthcare wellbeing has the pandemic shined a light on? What were some of the processes that your team at Stanford implemented to fight the pandemic? Are financial constraints a valid argument for not prioritizing healthcare wellness? What makes a good wellness initiative? What would you say to a medical leader who is making excuses for not prioritizing physician wellness? Quotes: 
    ”The culture of our organizations is the foundation of wellbeing and professional fulfillment.” "It’s about organizational change, systems change, and culture change, not tips and tricks for personal resilience.” ”Our goal is to fix a broken work environment, not teach and train physicians to tolerate a broken work environment.” Ask your team, ”What do you need from your leaders that you’re not currently getting? What have your leaders done that has been effective?” ”Probably the most important thing we can do [is] listening.”  ”When organizational wellness efforts are either lip service, or manifest as yoga and granola and learn how to practice mindfulness… they will fall flat.” ”Physicians have higher resilience than the general population.” ”Even physicians with the highest scores on resiliency… have high levels of burnout.” ”Our efforts are focused on improving the work environment.” ”The purpose of the leader is to accomplish the mission and attend to the welfare of the soldiers.” Book suggestions:
    Humble Inquiry: The Gentle Art of Asking Instead of Telling by Edgar ScheinGood to Great by Jim Collins Tribal Leadership by Dave Logan 

    • 34 min
    Artificial Intelligence, Social Media, and Disruptive Technology with Dr. Roxana Daneshjou

    Artificial Intelligence, Social Media, and Disruptive Technology with Dr. Roxana Daneshjou

    In this episode we interview Dr. Roxana Doneshjou. She is a clinical scholar in the department of dermatology at Stanford School of Medicine. She is a Paul and Daisy Soros Fellowship for New Americans and was the Stanford Medicine TEDMED Student Ambassador in 2015. She is interested in bridging new technologies such as genomics and machine learning with clinical medicine. She is also interested in the use of Twitter for scientific communication and medical education. You can follow her on Twitter: @RoxanaDaneshjou.
    We hope you enjoy this episode of leading the rounds! 
    If you enjoy what we're doing at Leading the Rounds, subscribe and give us a positive rating. You can also connect with us at leadingtherounds.com and on social media. 
    Questions: 
    How did you develop your leadership philosophy? Have you always been a team player or did you develop it? What is your take on STEP1 being pass/fail? How did you develop your career in medical technology? How will artificial intelligence fit into medicine in the future?How can we avoid bias seeping into medical technology?  How do physicians balance promoting their brand on social media and not spreading misinformation? How do you balance being yourself and maintaining your professionalism on social media? How do you balance social media with your patients? How can you thrive at virtual conferences? Ideas: 
    “Artificial intelligence technology has the capacity to offload some burdens within medicine and to provide decision support tools to physicians.” Bias may sneak into AI algorithms  “The pace of innovation often outpaces moral obligation.” “We build things, but we don’t always think about the consequences.”  On Twitter, “false news stories are 70 percent more likely to be retweeted than true stories are.” “If you are are trying to go viral, that is antithetical to science.” “To me, science should always be about promoting the truth.” When using humor, “Never punch down.” Books: 
    We Are Water Protectors by Carol Lindstrom (children's book)Medical Apartheid by Harriet A. WashingtonHere We Are: American Dreams, American Nightmares by Aarti Namdev Shahani

    • 48 min
    The Bright SIDE of Leadership with Hamza Khan

    The Bright SIDE of Leadership with Hamza Khan

    In this episode, we bring back a guest from season 1 and interview Hamza Khan. Hamza is a multi-award winning marketer, best-selling author, and global keynote speaker whose TEDx talk “Stop Managing, Start Leading” has been viewed over a million times. He is also the author of two books, The Burnout Gamble and his most recent book, Leadership Reinvented. If you want to learn more about Hamza, check out his website hamzakhan.ca. 
    In our episode with Hamza last season, we talked about his leadership experiences, challenging the status quo, as well as his take on burnout being a leadership issue. In today’s episode, we focus on his new book, Leadership Reinvented and go through his belief that Servitude, Innovation, Diversity, and Empathy (SIDE) are the key to 21st century leadership. We hope you enjoy this episode with Hamza Khan.
    Welcome to Leading the Rounds

    Questions we asked included: 
    Tell us about your new book? What does it mean to you to be a servant leader? How do you look at innovation? How do you reorient yourself to stay on the cutting edge? How can you cultivate diversity if you yourself are not “diverse”? Why is empathy important for leadership?What would you add as an addendum to your book? Our favorite Ideas: 
    SIDE (Servitude, Innovation, Diversity, and Empathy) “The dark triad of leadership [narcissistic, Machiavellian, and psychopathic] is officially dead”  “Become so good, that you can inspire other people to be better than you” -Hamza “[As a leader] you are at the center of the organization radiating outwards.” -Hamza “If the rate of change on the outside exceeds the rate of change on the inside, the end is near.” -Jack Welch “Tap into very inspired and wise younger people” -Hamza“What we are striving for is diversity of background, experience and perspective.” -Hamza 

    Check out Hamza's new book, Leadership Reinvented online, or at your local bookstore. 

    • 50 min
    The Anatomy and Physiology of the Healthcare System with Dr. Jonathan Burroughs

    The Anatomy and Physiology of the Healthcare System with Dr. Jonathan Burroughs

    Jonathan Burroughs is President and CEO of The Burroughs Healthcare Consulting Network, Inc. He works with some of the nation’s top healthcare consulting organizations to provide ‘best practice’ solutions and training to healthcare organizations throughout the country.

    Dr. Burroughs serves on the national faculty of the American College of Healthcare Executives and the American Association for Physician Leadership, where he has been consistently rated as one of their top speakers and educators.

    He is the author or coauthor of many books on healthcare leadership including, Redesign the Medical Staff Model - A Collaborative Approach, which was the winner of the 2016 James A. Hamilton Award for Outstanding Healthcare Management Book of the year.

    Dr. Burroughs received his bachelor’s degree at Johns Hopkins University, his MD from Case Western Reserve University, and a healthcare MBA with honors from the Isenberg School of Management.

    We hope you enjoy our conversation where we talked about knowing yourself, the importance of physician healthcare executives, and following the money in medicine. 

    As always, if you like what we’re doing give us a positive rating and follow our social media pages for more content. 

    We hope you enjoy this episode of Leading The Rounds. 

    Questions we asked included: 


    How did you develop your leadership philosophy? Tell us about Burroughs consulting? How do we follow the money in medicine? How do trainees learn the business of medicine? Our favorite quotes: 
    “Learn from every single patient. That’s why they call it the practice of medicine” “Look in the mirror and see who you are… then exploit the strengths and minimize the weaknesses.”“If you don’t learn the business, you are going to be delegated to the assembly line.” “Doctors who only know how to diagnose and treat patients will be treated as a commodity in the coming century.” “He or she who controls the money, controls the system.” Book Suggestions: 
    French’s Differential Diagnosis Introduction to Healthcare Finance by Carlene Harrison and William P. HarrisonEssential Operational Components for High Performing Healthcare Enterprises by Don Burroughs  The Innovator's Prescription by Clayton Christensen and Jason Hwang 

    • 59 min
    5 Rules for Leadership; Season 1 Recap

    5 Rules for Leadership; Season 1 Recap

    In this episode, Peter and I put together the culmination of our first season of podcasting. We took lessons from leaders in medicine, business, and the military to bring you 5 rules for leadership. This episode contains lessons from previous guests...

    • 46 min
    Presence, Excellence, and Leading as an Introvert with Dr. Edward Barksdale

    Presence, Excellence, and Leading as an Introvert with Dr. Edward Barksdale

    In this episode we interview Dr. Edward Barksdale. He is the newly elected American Pediatric Surgery Association President. He is also the Division Chief of Pediatric General Surgery and Thoracic Surgery at UH Rainbow Babies and Children’s Hospital. He...

    • 54 min

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Transferable knowledge!

This podcast has a lot of information usable in fields other than the medical field too. The insightful questions that are asked can be transferable other aspiring leaders and achievers! Their posts and quotes on Instagram and Facebook are influential as well. Good job guys!

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Giving people a voice

This podcast really highlights and give voices to the marginalized communities and their leaders in the medical field. It’s of priceless value to hear from these leaders and learn from their experiences.

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Highly Recommend

Love this show! The questions are always fantastic and they usually answer questions I didn’t know I had! The guests are great too, much better than the usual boring ones. I definitely recommend.

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