Learning A Process Model

Nicholas Montaño and Joey Massengale
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A podcast for people that have some familiarity with Focusing and who are wanting to read/think/live through Eugene Gendlin’s "A Process Model". Nicholas Montaño and Joey Massengale move through the electrifyingly fun and difficult book page by page, modeling in their own processes how listeners might embrace its density and necessary disorientations towards forming new understandings of the world and themselves: "Bring along your copy of APM, send us your questions, and join us as together we enliven and expand our felt-thinking around Focusing, learning, theory-building, and so much more!"

Episodes

  1. 1D AGO

    Getting Existential with Ch III - An Object (pt. 1)

    So far in the book we have organisms that are occurring as (and in) their environment, who are implying their functional cycles and occurring (sometimes) into them. In this model, there is as yet no differentiation from within the organism between itself, and—well—anything. For a living organism, how does anything become some thing? How might things come to be differentiated in the first place as a thing? According to Gendlin, differentiation happens in a much more (implicitly) meaningful way than our current models suggest. In this episode, we tackle everything in Chapter 3 up to the first subsection, after which Gendlin starts discussing some motivations of the model (tune in for part 2 coming soon). So grab you books and come learn with us! We're glad you're here! 00:00 - Introduction 01:19 - p. 14, paras. 1–3, "Our concept of implying has already moved to a second meaning..." 07:13 - p. 14, para. 4, "If the creature does not instantly die..." 15:33 - p. 14, paras. 5–6, "...perhaps a new way forms to do something that changes the implying somewhat..." 18:10 - p. 14, paras. 7–8, "Now we are speaking not just of the whole body-identical 'environment'..." 21:31 - p. 15, para. 1, "The part of en#2 that separates itself by being absent plays a special role..." (we start getting existential here) 28:47 - Objects and oneness, God, purpose... 37:26 - p. 15, para. 2, "...all of that process which was stopped by the absence will occur..." 39:28 - p. 15, para. 3, "...the process that resumes is much more complex than one could guess..." 40:27 - p. 15, paras. 4–5, "The animal recognizes the object." 44:47 - A "too early" definition of Focusing 50:41 - p. 15, para. 6, "In a resumption, the body does not encounter..." 52:32 - p. 15, para. 7, "So what we call an object is part of en#2, and part of the functional cycle..." 56:36 - p. 16, para. 1, "Since the next occurring does not immediately change it..." 01:00:05 - The text is creating itself in its own absences 01:02:28 - p. 16, para. 2, "When people say that 'objects are a function of the organism'..." 01:19:13 - p. 16, para. 3–4, "In our third meaning of the concept of implying..." 01:23:07 - p. 16, para. 5, "Later, we will develop terms for how a body can have objects that can be there for it..." 01:31:29 - p. 16, para. 6, "By allowing our terms to function logically this way, we arrive at puzzling results..." 01:39:14 - p.17, paras. 1–3, "When the object returns, the stopped process resumes and moves on..." 01:41:49 - p. 17, para. 4, "The object implies the resumed process to the body..."

    1h 48m

  2. MAY 1

    Chapter II - The functional cycle (implying occurring)

    In Chapter I, we explored different ways to think of the environment and of space. Now, in Chapter II, we'll start exploring new ways to think of time. Grab your books and join us for a reading and discussion that spans topics such as Focusing, the nature of reality (metaphysics), and how Gendlin's concepts keep pointing to the moon of our bodies' felt sense! And as always, feel free to drop us any APM questions on our form here: https://forms.gle/ydzoChYxv9AY76mf9. 00:00 - Episode begins 01:44 - Reading begins 07:37 - Linear time bits, 3 bits of force 11:41 - The whole string of en#2 is implied by... 17:38 - Feeling the string of en#2's, and implicit time 28:06 - "is" versus "implies" 41:00 - Living cannot well be thought of as unit events only 50:00 - Living context gives true knowledge and understanding 58:47 - A certain very special relation... 01:09:20 - "Being" vs. implying process 01:15:47 - Generating time, habitat-time 01:22:07 - To say that each bit of occurring is what the last bit implied... 01:26:59 - "To the things themselves" 01:33:48 - Implying is not the same as what will occur; not predetermined 01:41:54 - All occurring also implies; implying part of every occurring 01:44:36 - Implying is *not* an occurring that has not yet occurred; never just equal to occurring 01:52:29 - So we see that implying is not just what will occur... 01:59:34 - Whirling in deconstruction of occurring, implying, and en 02:06:32 - The most significant part of this chapter for Joey 02:08:06 - Something about how Focusing works (carrying forward) 02:13:07 - Final thoughts on chapter, and what's to come 02:20:33 - Going back to Footnote #1 02:29:01 - Thinking with patterns 02:35:26 - Gendlin is pointing at the luminous moon within our body 02:41:22 - Closed logical power, vs. opened experience: we can *always* re-open a theory 02:45:15 - The old conceptual pattern that can now imply more 02:50:42 - Let it be Open

    2h 56m

  3. APR 15

    Chapter I - The body and the environment are one, but...

    We start right before the main text with the very brief Prefatory Note, and clarify how "A Process Model" (APM) differs a bit from standard philosophy fare. Then we proceed right on in, without any further introduction. Exciting! If you've been interested in (1) reading A Process Model or (2) going deeper on it, then what you really need is to just get inside the text, to be in it. So grab your copy of APM (or get a copy of it!) and join Joey Massengale and I as we navigate into the necessarily unfamiliar terrain of environments, ahem, "en"s, #2, #3, and #0. Send your confusions and questions our way at https://forms.gle/s5kQ24cy3Paycyrz9, and we'll try to answer them in future episodes or reach out directly! Chapters: 00:00 - Prefatory note & context 02:53 - Chapter I: body and environment are one 05:18 - en#1: the spectator’s environment 08:30 - en#2: the reflexively identical environment 09:42 - Example: walking & ground resistance 15:38 - The paradox: equal and not equal to en 22:26 - Mutual implying, non-representational concretion, and interactional concepts 40:34 - en#3: the homemade/domesticated environment 48:33 - Action tracks: the body as process concretized 1:01:50 - When does something become en#3? 1:15:40 - The main environment: other species members 1:25:00 - Rethinking space: two-directional “in” 1:34:13 - en#0: the infinite richness of the unborn 1:41:50 - Determining life process by en#0 1:48:33 - What’s alive about Chapter I for us? 2:00:02 - The exciting stuff that lies ahead in APM

    2h 4m
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A podcast for people that have some familiarity with Focusing and who are wanting to read/think/live through Eugene Gendlin’s "A Process Model". Nicholas Montaño and Joey Massengale move through the electrifyingly fun and difficult book page by page, modeling in their own processes how listeners might embrace its density and necessary disorientations towards forming new understandings of the world and themselves: "Bring along your copy of APM, send us your questions, and join us as together we enliven and expand our felt-thinking around Focusing, learning, theory-building, and so much more!"

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