Learning off the Syllabus

Farnaz Karimian

Learning off the Syllabus is a podcast that steps into the real stories that shape language teaching and learning. Hosted and created by Toronto-based language educator and curriculum designer, Farnaz Karimian, each episode dives into conversations with teachers, students, leaders and thinkers to explore what teaching and learning actually feel like in an ever-evolving landscape. If you’ve ever felt the gap between policy and practice, care and control, or ideals and reality, you’re in the right place! Let's go off the syllabus, where the real learning unfolds!

  1. 3d ago

    S2. E8 - Dr. Antonella Valeo: It's Got Heart! Mentorship in TESOL

    In this segment of Teacher Real Talk, Farnaz and Dr. Antonella Valeo discuss the importance of mentorship in TESOL, and why mentoring doesn’t have to be about being the absolute “perfect” teacher or having all the right answers. They reflect on why mentorship doesn’t have to be a one-way relationship, and how newer teachers can have just as much to contribute as experienced ones. They also talk about what it means to step into a real classroom and how there can be just as much learning in the conversations that happen after a lesson as in the lesson itself. At the heart of it all is a simple idea: that teaching adult learners is messy yet meaningful and that it's the warm sense of community that continues to draw so many people to TESOL. Dr. Antonella Valeo is an Associate Professor at York University where she teaches graduate courses in applied linguistics, TESOL, and ESL to undergraduate students. Her research explores language teaching and learning with a focus on classroom-based interaction, corrective feedback, and teacher education and development. Her research interests and scholarship build on many years of experience as a language teacher, teacher educator and supervisor in a range of classrooms in Canada and internationally. Antonella's ResearchGate: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Antonella-Valeo ⁠learningoffthesyllabus.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: @learningoffthesyllabus Email: ⁠learningoffthesyllabus@gmail.com⁠ Theme music: Periscope by Audionautix is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Artist: http://audionautix.com/

    S2. E8 - Dr. Antonella Valeo: It's Got Heart! Mentorship in TESOL
  2. Sep 3

    S2. E7 - HaEun Kim: Academic English in Displacement

    In this segment of Teacher Real Talk, HaEun Kim (PhD candidate in Applied Linguistics) and Farnaz have an enriching conversation on the complex relationship between language education and displacement. They reflect on HaEun's work with refugee educators in Kenya and what relationship-based educational programming can teach us about shifting students’ approaches to learning and knowledge. Also, as people who have been teaching EAP for years, they get into the paradox of English in higher education: a language that can open doors but also reproduce histories of injustice. They unpack what it might mean to practice a more critical approach to EAP, one that recognizes these challenges while respecting students’ own language goals and linguistic resources. Finally, they talk about who gets to produce knowledge about displacement and why refugee voices and leadership remain underrepresented in research. HaEun Kim originally set out to become a high school English teacher in Toronto, but life took her unexpectedly into education and international development, specifically refugee education. She is currently researching the significance of English-language higher education in the lives of refugees across Kenya, Somalia, and Canada, and she's especially interested in how language proficiency enables or limits access to resources, networks, and opportunities such as education. Before her PhD, HaEun worked as a program administrator for Borderless Higher Education for Refugees (BHER), supporting a transnational university partnership that delivered blended certificate, diploma, and degree programs to untrained refugee teachers in Kenya. She continues to work alongside BHER alumni on research, co-presenting and co-authoring articles. She still loves teaching, but has developed a deep appreciation for research, thinking, and tackling problems alongside others. Outside of work, she enjoys cooking while catching up on NBA podcasts. Resources mentioned in the episode: Radio Dadaab | EJF Documentary: https://lnkd.in/gMPcHjxw The BHER Project: www.bher.org Research and publications by BHER alumni: https://lnkd.in/gijnvDFV Kim, H., Dlamini, N., Ibrahim, D., Kimonyo, S., & Reynolds, J. (2021). Refugee Students’ Experience of Accessing English Language Learning in Dadaab, Kenya. https://lnkd.in/gn-8Qiwm Giles, W., & Dippo, D. (2019). Transitions from Knowledge Networked to Knowledge Engaged: Ethical Tensions and Dilemmas from the Global to the Local. https://lnkd.in/gj4javDZ Kim, H. (2023). “Equitable multilingualism” for equitable access to learning: Addressing the digital and linguistic divide in connected higher education for refugees. https://lnkd.in/gDhcESjg Silver, R., Kim, H., Mohamed Ismail, S., Bhatla, R., & Okello Oyat, M. (2026). “Free of Mind, Though I Am a Refugee”: Borderless Graduate Education and the Politics of Knowledge Production. https://lnkd.in/gvBz-3rE ⁠learningoffthesyllabus.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: @learningoffthesyllabus Email: ⁠learningoffthesyllabus@gmail.com⁠ Theme music: Periscope by Audionautix is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Artist: http://audionautix.com/

    S2. E7 - HaEun Kim: Academic English in Displacement
  3. Aug 20

    S2. E6 - Dr. Maria-Lourdes Lira-Gonzales: The Art of Correction

    In this segment of Director's Chair, Dr. ⁠Maria-Lourdes Lira-Gonzales ⁠and Farnaz have a conversation about how teachers' experiences as language learners can shape the way they teach. Drawing on Maria’s own journey across languages and cultures, they talk about accents, confidence, identity, and the ways other people’s responses can influence how comfortable learners might feel using a language. From there, they turn to corrective feedback and consider how teachers can support learning without turning mistakes into a source of anxiety or self-doubt. They also get into AI, mindfulness, and the role of the teacher in creating classrooms where students feel both challenged and supported. Dr. Maria-Lourdes Lira-Gonzales is a professor and the chair of the TESL program at Université du Québec en Abitibi-Témiscamingue. She is a member of ⁠Concordia University⁠’s Centre for the Study of Learning and Performance, a collaborator with the McGill Mindfulness Research Lab, and the vice president of the Canadian Association of Applied Linguistics. Her research interests focus on instructed L2 acquisition, with an emphasis on corrective feedback. Her recent work includes a project examining how mindfulness meditation practice mediates language anxiety and behavioral engagement with written corrective feedback among ESL students. She is also investigating the role of ChatGPT in facilitating the provision of written corrective feedback in French as a second and foreign language settings. Maria's Publications: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Maria-Lourdes-Lira-Gonzales https://marialiragonzales.wixsite.com/main ⁠learningoffthesyllabus.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: @learningoffthesyllabus Email: ⁠learningoffthesyllabus@gmail.com⁠ Theme music: Periscope by Audionautix is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Artist: http://audionautix.com/

    S2. E6 - Dr. Maria-Lourdes Lira-Gonzales: The Art of Correction
  4. Jul 9

    S2. E3 - Dr. Rebecca Schmor: Language is a Resource, Not a Deficit.

    In this segment of Teacher Real Talk, Farnaz and Rebecca Schmor (PhD, Language and Literacies Education) talk about what it means to embrace plurilingualism in English language education. They get into the relationship between language and identity, examine why English-only policies continue to persist in many institutions, and discuss how these beliefs influence both teaching and learning. The conversation encourages educators to reconsider long-held assumptions and reflect on how they can create learning environments that value the full range of their learners' linguistic resources.Dr. Rebecca Schmor is an academic coach and editor who supports graduate students and early career researchers in the humanities and social sciences disciplines. She has taught English, Spanish, and German in several countries including Canada, China, and Cuba. She currently lives in Mexico with her husband and daughter.  Rebecca's website: https://www.rebeccaschmor.com/ Resources mentioned in⁠⁠⁠⁠ the episode:Schmor, R., Jones, S., & Noel, K. (2023). Microaggressions to microaffirmations: A trioethnography of plurilingual EAP instructors. Journal of English for Academic Purposes, 64, 101270.Schmor, R., & Piccardo, E. (2024). Supporting language rights: plurilingual pedagogies as an impetus for linguistic and cultural inclusion. Human Rights Education Review, 7(1), 72-102.Schmor, R. (2024). Adopting a plurilingual attitude: A reimagining of linguistic and cultural identity. In Autoethnographies of Plurilingualism (pp. 19-26). Routledge.Schmor, R., Araki, Y., Santoyo, S., & Gao, X. (n.d.). “Understanding is a shared responsibility”: The impact of plurilingual teaching practices from the perspective of three English language learners [Unpublished manuscript]. ⁠learningoffthesyllabus.com⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: @learningoffthesyllabus Email: ⁠learningoffthesyllabus@gmail.com⁠ Theme music: Periscope by Audionautix is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Artist: http://audionautix.com/

    S2. E3 - Dr. Rebecca Schmor: Language is a Resource, Not a Deficit.
  5. Jun 25

    S2. E2 - Vanessa Nino: Avoid, Adapt, or Adopt? The AI Dilemma!

    In this segment of Teacher Real Talk, Farnaz and Vanessa (MA, English Literature) have an open conversation about what it means to support student learning in the GenAI era. They unpack the shift from resistance to adaptation in educational spaces and the challenges of assessing student work in meaningful ways. They also reflect on how AI is reshaping writing support services, with students both relying on and bypassing human tutoring in different ways. The episode surfaces deeper questions about what we value in student writing, and how educators might rethink their approaches without losing sight of learning itself. Vanessa Nino is an educator and instructional designer specializing in English language teaching, academic writing, and adult learning. She has taught English for Academic Purposes (EAP) and communications at Sheridan College and Humber College as well as ESL at Acheve's LINC Home Study, supporting multilingual learners in developing general English, academic literacy and professional communication skills. Earlier in her career, she contributed to the TESL community as Communications Officer for TESL Toronto and supported social media engagement for TESL Ontario. She currently leads the English and Writing Tutoring team at Sheridan College’s Library and Learning Services, where she advances inclusive, student-centred writing support through innovative practice and Universal Design for Learning (UDL). Literature mentioned in⁠⁠ the episode: The Em Dash Dilemma: How a Punctuation Mark Became AI’s Stubborn Signature Saunders, G. L., & Boldt, N. (2026). Avoid, Adopt, Adapt: Positions on GenAI in Canadian Writing Centres. Discourse and Writing/Rédactologie, 35, 156–184. https://doi.org/10.31468/dwr.1139 learningoffthesyllabus.com⁠⁠ Instagram: @learningoffthesyllabus Email: ⁠learningoffthesyllabus@gmail.com⁠ Theme music: Periscope by Audionautix is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Artist: http://audionautix.com/

    S2. E2 - Vanessa Nino: Avoid, Adapt, or Adopt? The AI Dilemma!
  6. Jun 11

    S2. E1 - Dr. Francesca Boschetti: The Tie and the Pin

    In this segment of From the Director’s Chair, Farnaz has an insightful conversation with Francesca Boschetti⁠⁠ (PhD, English) about what it means to lead in a profession where perceptions of credibility and authority are often influenced by factors beyond expertise. They explore how assumptions about age and gender can shape professional experiences, leadership journeys, and the ways individuals are seen and heard within institutions. Additionally, drawing from her own journey as a multilingual learner and educator, Francesca shares how navigating new educational systems has influenced the way she approaches leadership, student support, and other professional relationships. Dr. Francesca Boschetti is the Associate Director at York University’s School of Continuing Studies, where she oversees language programs and operations. With extensive leadership experience in language education, internationalization, career development, and student services, she has worked across post-secondary institutions in Canada, designing and managing programs that support diverse learner communities. An Italian-Canadian educator, Certified Gallup Strengths Coach, and firm believer in the power of good food to bring people together, Francesca is passionate about adult learning, strengths-based leadership, and building collaborative environments where individuals and teams can thrive.Literature mentioned in the episode: Sieghart, M. A. (2021). The Authority Gap: Why women are still taken less seriously than men, and what we can do about it. Random House.Mercer, S., Gregersen, T., Thompson, A.S. and Yim, S.Y. (2026), It's Not You, It's the System: Women Professors in TESOL and the Persistence of Gender Bias. TESOL J. https://lnkd.in/gjhrfGpRRashed, D. (2024). "Chapter 1 Female Leadership Identity in English Language Teaching: Autoethnographies of Global Perspectives – Framing the Conversation". In Female Leadership Identity in English Language Teaching. Leiden, The Netherlands: Brill. https://lnkd.in/gKNNwRE9learningoffthesyllabus.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: @learningoffthesyllabus Email: ⁠learningoffthesyllabus@gmail.com Theme music: Periscope by Audionautix is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Artist: http://audionautix.com/

    S2. E1 - Dr. Francesca Boschetti: The Tie and the Pin

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Learning off the Syllabus is a podcast that steps into the real stories that shape language teaching and learning. Hosted and created by Toronto-based language educator and curriculum designer, Farnaz Karimian, each episode dives into conversations with teachers, students, leaders and thinkers to explore what teaching and learning actually feel like in an ever-evolving landscape. If you’ve ever felt the gap between policy and practice, care and control, or ideals and reality, you’re in the right place! Let's go off the syllabus, where the real learning unfolds!