LegalTechLIVE

Nick Rishwain
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LegalTechLIVE is your front-row seat to the future of law and technology. Hosted by Nick Rishwain and Hana Zumout, this show features the innovators, tools, and ideas reshaping the legal industry, from SaaS breakthroughs to the rise of AI. www.legaltechlive.com

  1. 6d ago

    Episode 142: Gordon Cassie - Eno PDF Founder

    For our viewers in the legal technology space, you may have heard of Gordon Cassie, whose company, Closing Folders, was acquired by iManage in 2020. Now that he knows what it takes to build legal tech that gets adopted and acquired, he’s back with Eno PDF (Eno). Eno is an offline application that takes a different approach to AI-assisted document review, and a product Nick wished he had for his master’s classes. Anyways… here’s what we discussed. Most AI tools answer your questions with a generated summary and vague citations, but Eno is what Gordon calls “evidence-based AI.” It’s a zero-retention desktop app that surfaces the actual document snippets on screen so you can find what you’re looking for in your source material at 10x speed. Think of it as a “fuzzy Control F.” Because attorneys can’t afford to communicate paraphrases of the law to a client, this distinction is critical. Gordon’s time building Eno vastly differs from his Closing Folders days. Closing Folders’ audience was strictly for legal professionals, but anyone who uses PDFs can use Eno. He deliberately avoids taking VC money this time around and now views marketing as a valuable strategy to reach a wide range of professionals. Watch the episode to get detailed information about Gordon, Eno, and why locally run apps are becoming legal tech’s latest trend. More on Gordon Cassie: * Gordon Cassie on LinkedIn * Gordon Cassie on X * Eno Website * Eno on LinkedIn This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.legaltechlive.com

  2. Jul 15

    Episode 141: Ian O'Brien and Dory Lord - CounselPro Founders

    “And so.. we wanted to essentially be able to provide this same level of capability that people would’ve paid thousands and thousands of dollars for a forensic analyst.” - Dory Lord Anyone who has been divorced understands how strenuous it is to sift through years of financial documents, as if the divorce itself wasn’t mentally taxing (pun intended). It’s the last thing people want to deal with, and now it’s a process that lawyers and forensic accountants can expedite! CounselPro co-founders Ian O’Brien (CEO) and Dory Lord (CRO) share their story behind expediting forensic financial processes. After experiencing this exact issue himself, Ian looked for a simpler way to deal with his financial statements and couldn’t find anything satisfactory. Through market research, he discovered a need to automate financial evaluation for family law and bankruptcy attorneys. With Dory’s marketing operations and legal tech background, and Ian’s engineering and marketing expertise, they joined forces to create CounselPro. In Ian’s words, “CounselPro is so easy, even a lawyer can use it.” With its “drag, drop, done” interface, CounselPro’s platform ingests thousands of pages of financial documents. It'll organize PDFs, categorize every transaction, flag missing statement ranges, and allow attorneys to search and filter by merchant, date, account, and more. The output can withstand scrutiny, making it court-ready by design. This episode covers Ian and Dory’s path to entrepreneurship, why they’re targeting solo practitioners and small law firms, the industries they want to reach next, and their vision for CounselPro’s future. More about Ian and Dory: * Ian O’Brien on LinkedIn * Dory Lord on LinkedIn * CounselPro Website * CounselPro on LinkedIn This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.legaltechlive.com

  3. Jul 8

    Episode 140: Dorna Moini - Gavel CEO & Founder

    We are ecstatic to welcome back our first returning guest since LegalTechLIVE’s revival, Dorna Moini, CEO and Founder of Gavel! Last time she was on the show (Episode 49), Gavel was known as Documate. The company has come a long way since then, so much so that it was recently acquired by Relativity! Stay with us until the end for Dorna’s inside scoop on this VERY newsworthy event. Her journey began in Big Law at Sidley Austin, where she worked on pro bono cases for domestic violence survivors as a litigator. Her time there sparked the idea for a document automation platform, which was later known as Documate. So, despite the risks of leaving a secure full-time job, she bet on herself and quit to pursue entrepreneurship. Not long after launching Documate, she realized early on that the legal tech industry was headed toward an AI-centered direction. With the help of her team, investors, and a CTO with deep AI knowledge, Documate was rebranded to Gavel. The rebrand was a necessary move to encompass the added AI-native products that complement the original document automation service. And for those of you who know Dorna, you may have even participated in suggesting a name for the rebrand! All the decisions she’s made as a founder have paid off, and Gavel is now part of the legal AI platform, Relativity. Hear from Dorna herself about how understanding her customers has helped her business grow, the benefits of staying agile, the hardest decisions she’s had to make as a founder, and her thoughts on the recent acquisition. More about Dorna: * Dorna on LinkedIn * Dorna on Substack * Gavel Website * Gavel on LinkedIn * Gavel Acquisition Announcement This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.legaltechlive.com

  4. Jun 24

    Episode 139: Erich Dylus - CamoText Founder

    You know the headlines where attorneys use mainstream AI tools for their legal work and inadvertently violate client-attorney privilege? Those are unfortunate stories and even more unfortunate realities. Clearly, not all AI is created equal. But what if there were a tool that anonymizes identifiable information that can be used anywhere at any time? Oh wait, there is! It’s called CamoText, and this episode features its founder, Erich Dylus. As a solo-practice lawyer, Erich underwent the mind-numbingly mundane task of manually removing private data in his legal work. He noticed that the labor of wiping metadata and copy-pasting clean text into AI chats was the kind of friction that causes lawyers to ignore privacy steps. Erich wanted a way to expedite and preserve confidentiality. Luckily for him, he’s also a programmer. The Python script he wrote became CamoText, a fully offline document app that detects and replaces PII (personally identifiable information) with placeholders. Names, email addresses, UUIDs, locations, finances, and other private information are camouflaged. And the best part? You can paste the sanitized version from CamoText into your AI tool of choice, with human review, of course. Tune in to learn about less obvious privacy vectors, how CamoText also serves non-legal industries, and why offline apps offer security by simplicity. More about Erich: * Erich Dylus on LinkedIn * CamoText Website * CamoText on LinkedIn * Varia Law Website * Varia Law on LinkedIn This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.legaltechlive.com

  5. Jun 17

    Episode 138: Cheyenne Moseley - Rasa Legal Ops Director

    “What are legal operations?” “Is it different from business operations?” “How can non-profit legal tech companies build scalable processes?” Rasa’s Legal Operations Director, Cheyenne Moseley, describes her day-to-day responsibilities, the rewarding yet complex nature of expungement work, the tools that help her do her job, and why she traded the corporate life for deeply human work. Cheyenne spent 21 years at LegalZoom before joining Rasa. She started in customer service roles and worked her way up to director of an entire division. Within that time, she saw legal tech scale from Manila folders and FileNet to Salesforce and AI tools. After meeting her boss and the founder of Rasa, Noella Sudbury, she decided to leave her corporate job for a mission she couldn’t refuse. Rasa’s goal is to help people expunge their criminal records, which is different from LegalZoom’s high-volume business formation. As Legal Operations Director, she navigates multiple counties across multiple states whose courts have different timelines and processes (that’s if they have a process). Her role brings about additional nuances compared to business operations, as people’s freedom is the service Rasa offers. What remains the same is how Cheyenne applies the same operational skills she learned in corporate to a public benefit corporation setting. Get to know Cheyenne, understand legal operations and Rasa’s mission on a deeper level, and discover how she creates repeatable processes in this episode. More about Cheyenne Moseley: * Cheyenne Moseley on LinkedIn * Rasa Website * Rasa on LinkedIn This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.legaltechlive.com

  6. Jun 10

    Episode 137: Chris Ford - Legaltech Hub Co-Founder and CXO

    Despite the wild goose chase it took to bring him on the podcast, Nick and Hana caught up with Legaltech Hub’s very own, Chris Ford. Chris is the Co-Founder and Chief Experience Officer at LTH, and the marketing counterpart to his CEO and wife, Nicola (Nikki) Shaver’s, entrepreneurial spirit. You may have seen him at ILTACON and Legalweek, but now, you’ll hear him on your favorite podcasting app. Chris entered the legal industry right out of college, selling document services to law firms in America. As his career progressed, he found himself in marketing roles and realized this was what he was meant to pursue. He landed a role in Australia at LexisNexis and met Nikki several years later. Fast forward to 2020, what started as a COVID side project became the legal tech industry’s first full-scale media, advisory, and events company. While Nikki was working at Paul Hastings, she was frustrated at not having a consolidated and objectively truthful source of legal tech tools. So, they made one. Now, Legaltech Hub is a company of 30+ team members, 3,000+ tools listed, dozens of global events led by Chris, and a project involving lots of blood, sweat, and tears. Tune in to discover Chris’ in-depth marketing advice, endearing sentiments toward Nikki, and future goals for LTH. More about Chris Ford: * Chris Ford on LinkedIn * Chris Ford Legaltech Hub Email * Legaltech Hub Website * Legaltech Hub on LinkedIn This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.legaltechlive.com

  7. Jun 3

    Episode 136: Mathew Kerbis - Practi CEO & Co-Founder

    Our guest is a jack-of-all-trades. He is the host of two podcasts, Legal AI Live and Law Subscribed, co-founder of Practi, a first-generation lawyer running a solo practice, and a former Starbucks barista who makes his wife a cappuccino every morning. Seriously, what can’t the man do! All the legal tech connoisseurs know him, but for our non-legal audience, we’re joined by “The Subscription Attorney,” Mathew Kerbis. With tools like Harvey and Paxton shortening the time it takes to execute legal work, billing by the hour doesn’t make sense, financially or ethically. The consequence is a decline in associates at law firms and the loss of priceless time with loved ones. Mathew saw an opportunity to increase attorneys’ revenue, close the access-to-justice gap, and drive systemic change. Practi is not an AI service, but a company that exists because of AI. It provides an easy-to-build subscription-based billing infrastructure to solo and small law firms. The set-up alone takes less than 10 minutes, and it’s free! The billable-hour model doesn’t suit an AI-forward legal industry, but the subscription model fits right in. Hear Mathew’s arguments for a subscription-based billing system, his founder story, and how he created a marketing ecosystem in this “name-drop” episode. More on Mathew Kerbis: * Mathew Kerbis on LinkedIn * Subscription Attorney Website * Subscription Attorney LinkedIn * Practi Website * Practi LinkedIn * Legal AI Live Substack * Legal AI Live LinkedIn * Law Subscribed Substack * Law Subscribed LinkedIn This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.legaltechlive.com

  8. May 27

    Episode 135: Jonathan Schmalfeld - The Digital Chamber

    “The only people who really use crypto for crime are… people who don’t realize it can be traced back to them…, or people that don’t care.” Now that we have your attention, you can probably guess what this episode is all about (no, it’s not crime). Cryptocurrency and the blockchain industry have existed for decades, and you might have bought some yourself. We’ve brought you insider knowledge of how digital assets are handled at the federal level. Meet Jonathan Schmalfeld, Director of Policy at The Digital Chamber. Jonathan spent a decade as a practicing attorney at law firms like Polsinelli and Husch Blackwell, specializing in trade secret litigation. As he was buying and selling Bitcoin and Ethereum (regretably, too soon), he broke into the digital asset space while working on trademark and consumer protection cases involving NFTs. What was a personal interest turned into his full-time job. Today, Jonathan works for The Digital Chamber, the United States oldest and largest blockchain advocacy organization. He works with government officials to sign bills into law (such as the GENIUS Act) and to make digital assets more accessible to the public. For Jonathan, there has never been a better time to be in the room where financial regulations are made. Watch or listen to the episode to learn about changes in the digital asset industry, common misconceptions, blockchain advantages for Americans, and how Jonathan informs Congress about digital assets. More about Jonathan Schmalfeld: * Jonathan Schmalfeld on LinkedIn * The Digital Chamber Website * The Digital Chamber on LinkedIn This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.legaltechlive.com

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LegalTechLIVE is your front-row seat to the future of law and technology. Hosted by Nick Rishwain and Hana Zumout, this show features the innovators, tools, and ideas reshaping the legal industry, from SaaS breakthroughs to the rise of AI. www.legaltechlive.com

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  • Creator
    Nick Rishwain
  • Years Active
    2019 - 2026
  • Episodes
    141
  • Rating
    Clean
  • Copyright
    © Nick Rishwain
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    LegalTechLIVE

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