Let's Talk Income Protection

Income Protection Task Force

Let's Talk Income Protection is the official podcast of the Income Protection Task Force (IPTF), designed to educate, engage, and inspire financial professionals in the field of Income Protection. We tackle industry challenges, explore evolving trends, and provide practical insights to help advisers better serve their clients. Let's Talk IP is co-hosted by Matthew Chapman, The Protection Coach and Stevie Arnoldi, Content Associate for the IPTF. Join us as we look beyond financial advice, focusing on income protection, a subject often overlooked but undeniably vital for financial resilience. In each episode, Matt, renowned as The Protection Coach, along with industry experts brings his expertise to the forefront, shining a spotlight on income protection. Whether you're a seasoned financial adviser or someone eager to enhance your financial literacy, "Let's Talk IP" is the go-to resource for understanding the importance of income protection in securing a stable financial future for clients. We’re diving deep into real conversations that matter, as well as simple techniques for refining your advice process and increasing your income protection sales. 💡 Why Listen? Expert Insights: Matthew Chapman, with years of experience as The Protection Coach along with our expert guests provides invaluable insights and strategies for financial advisers to navigate the landscape of income protection seamlessly. CPD! Each episode contributes to your unstructured CPD total. Consumer Empowerment: Discover the power of income protection in fostering financial resilience among consumers. Learn how this often-overlooked aspect can be a game-changer in uncertain times. Practical Guidance: From industry trends to case studies, each episode offers practical guidance, empowering financial advisers to advocate effectively for income protection. Get your burning questions answered!: Send us your voice notes via SpeakPipe.com/LetsTalkIPPodcast or via email at info@iptf.co.uk   📣 Connect with IPTF: The IPTF exists to raise awareness about the vital role that income protection plays in ensuring financial resilience for policyholders. Stay updated on the latest podcast episodes, up-to-date insight and market data, and insights from other advisers by connecting with the Income Protection Task Force on social media: IPTF LinkedIn 🔊 Subscribe and Stay Informed: Don't miss out on the conversation! Subscribe to "Let's Talk IP" to receive regular expert advice and thought-provoking discussions. Be part of the movement to prioritise income protection in financial planning.

  1. Keep Britain Working - The Conversation

    12/09/2025

    Keep Britain Working - The Conversation

    The Keep Britain Working report lays out a stark reality: the UK is losing working-age people to ill health at scale, and it is impacting households, employers, and the wider economy. In this final episode of Season 2, we unpack what the report says, what needs to change, and why staying connected to work is often better than falling out of it entirely.   Stevie and Matt are joined by three expert guests: Dr Julie Denning (Working to Wellbeing, Chair of the Vocational Rehabilitation Association), Monica Garcia (MT Consulting, Trustee of the Vocational Rehabilitation Association), and Roy McLoughlin (Protection Distributors Group). Together they explore how early intervention, vocational rehabilitation, and the modern income protection proposition can help more people stay in meaningful work and reduce long-term absence. Key learnings from this episode:  Why the report is action-focused and what it is trying to unlock next (frameworks, evidence, and delivery)Early intervention in practice, including how it shows up across both group and individual income protectionThe value of proportional benefits and alternative roles: “can’t do your job” does not mean “can’t work”  To read the Keep Britain Working report, use this link, or search “Keep Britain Working report”.   📣 For More Education, Collaboration and Insight: IPTF Website IPTF on LinkedIn IPTF on YouTube IP Task Force on Instagram IPTF on TikTok Produced and edited by SEA Studios

    57 min
  2. Consumer Duty is Changing How We Protect Clients Forever

    08/07/2025

    Consumer Duty is Changing How We Protect Clients Forever

    Consumer Duty regulations are reshaping protection advice by shifting the industry from box-ticking compliance to a genuine focus on client outcomes. This shift enables advisers to deliver more meaningful, goal-oriented conversations about financial security. Keith Richards from the Consumer Duty Alliance joins us to discuss how things are shaping up 2 years on, before we get an adviser's view from Jiten Varsani from FortyOne Money Key learnings from this episode: • Consumer Duty represents a transformation from prescriptive, rules-based regulation to outcomes-focused approaches • Keith Richards explains how the Consumer Duty Alliance provides free self-assessment tools and resources for advisors • Vulnerability considerations have expanded beyond permanent conditions to include temporary circumstances requiring additional support • Claims handling is improving with streamlined processes, digital signatures, and dedicated support contacts • Cross-referrals between protection specialists and wealth advisors are increasing to provide holistic financial planning • Documentation now focuses on evidencing client outcomes rather than just product recommendations • Consumer Duty encourages advisers to break complex advice into manageable, client-friendly segments • The Protection Alliance is being developed to support protection specialists specifically To claim your unstructured CPD and learn more about Consumer Duty, visit consumerduty.org for free tools and guidance. Register now for Income Protection Action Week 2025, running 22nd September, at iptf.co.uk. 📣 For More Education, Collaboration and Insight: IPTF Website IPTF on LinkedIn IPTF on YouTube IP Task Force on Instagram IPTF on TikTok Produced and edited by SEA Studios

    49 min
  3. The Adviser's Guide to Building a Personal Brand in the Digital Age

    06/05/2025

    The Adviser's Guide to Building a Personal Brand in the Digital Age

    In the latest episode of Let’s Talk Income Protection, Matt and Stevie dive into a topic that sparks a lot of opinions — social media. Whether you love it or avoid it, one thing’s clear: it’s not going anywhere. For advisers wanting to grow their brand and reach more clients, it’s time to get on board. To guide us through the landscape, we’re joined by two experts who live and breathe this stuff: Rosalia Lazzara and Ash Borland. Social media has become the new currency of visibility for financial advisers. Done well, it helps you build trust, stay top of mind, and attract your ideal clients — all without it becoming a full-time job. Listen now to learn more about: • How social media should be part of a bigger business strategy, complementing referrals and networking • Why people buy from those they know, like, and trust – social media accelerates this process • Analysing your CRM to identify your most successful client types before posting content • Focusing on one platform where your ideal clients spend time before expanding • Why personal branding doesn't mean sharing private details – it means being personable and authentic • How video content creates "parasocial relationships" where potential clients feel they know you before meeting • Why niche marketing differs from niche product–market to a specific audience but serves anyone who needs your solutions • Why consistency matters more than trying to be different or creative • Why you shouldn't over-edit videos – simple, authentic content builds more trust than over-produced content • Why you should batch create and schedule content to maintain consistency without daily pressure 📣 For More Education, Collaboration and Insight: IPTF Website IPTF on LinkedIn IPTF on YouTube IP Task Force on Instagram IPTF on TikTok Produced and edited by SEA Studios

    58 min
  4. Vocational Rehabilitation: The Missing Link in Income Protection - A 7 Claims Story

    05/22/2025

    Vocational Rehabilitation: The Missing Link in Income Protection - A 7 Claims Story

    In this episode, Matt and Stevie take a deep dive into vocational rehabilitation, a crucial but often overlooked part of the claims journey. This episode forms part of the IPTF’s ‘7 Claims Stories’ series and explores how tailored rehab support can transform a person’s recovery after illness or injury. They’re joined by Phil Deacon, who leads the project, alongside vocational rehab consultant Monica Garcia and protection adviser Charlotte Rogers, who each bring a unique perspective on helping people get back to work with confidence and care. Vocational rehabilitation plays a transformative role in people's lives by supporting individuals with health conditions and disabilities to stay in work, return to work and sustain employment. This missing link in the recovery journey helps bridge the gap between medical treatment and a person's ability to perform their specific job functions. Listen now to learn more about: • How vocational rehabilitation consultants assess both physical and cognitive demands of roles to create bespoke return-to-work plans • Common mental health conditions, musculoskeletal problems and cancer are the top three reasons for income protection claims • How only 45% of the working population has access to occupational health support • Why proportional benefit allows claimants to gradually increase working hours while maintaining some financial support • How self-employed individuals are particularly vulnerable without workplace support structures • Why the biopsychosocial model helps identify who needs additional support to return to work • How early intervention significantly increases the chances of a successful return to work • Why a 12-18 period off work means chances of returning "fall off a cliff" • How advisers should encourage clients to notify insurers early, even with longer deferred periods • How claims assessors need better training to identify when vocational rehabilitation could help • How the industry could learn from countries like the Netherlands, the USA and Australia, where employers play a more active role • How approximately 300,000 people leave the workplace yearly due to health conditions • Why over 8.2 million people currently live with work-limiting health conditions in the UK Links from the episode: For more information, visit the IPTF website at iptf.co.uk, check the Chartered Institute of Insurers' Guide to Income Protection, or explore the Vocational Rehabilitation Association website. 📣 For More Education, Collaboration and Insight: IPTF Website IPTF on LinkedIn IPTF on YouTube IP Task Force on Instagram IPTF on TikTok Produced and edited by SEA Studios

    53 min
  5. Unlocking Business Protection

    05/08/2025

    Unlocking Business Protection

    In this episode, Matt and Stevie get down to business...business protection that is! A very technical episode featuring three interviews based on different levels of expertise in the space with guests Tara Cohen, from The Mortgage Centre Direct and one of the IPTF's new 7 Advisers, Nathaniel Lee from Business Protected and from L&G, Dave Butler.  Business protection represents a massive gap in the UK market, with just 1% of protection sales despite a £1.35 trillion opportunity, because nearly every client you speak to is likely connected to a small or medium-sized enterprise that needs protection. Listen now to learn more about: • How business protection covers key person protection, shareholder/partnership protection, and business loan protection • How employee benefits like executive income protection and relevant life policies offer tax-efficient solutions for businesses • How new advisers should build confidence by understanding business protection language and leaning on BDMs for support • How executive IP offers higher benefit levels (80%) than personal IP (60%) to account for tax when paid through payroll • How business owners need education about protection options, as many are unaware that these solutions exist • How specialist business protection advisors focus on educating clients first, rather than immediately selling products • Why understanding tax implications is crucial when recommending business protection products • Why any advisers unsure about business protection should: "Write it or refer it" - don't let clients miss vital protection Links from the episode: Visit the IPTF website to access new advisor tools, including underwriting guides, calculators and a glossary of IP terms. 📣 For More Education, Collaboration and Insight: IPTF Website IPTF on LinkedIn IPTF on YouTube IP Task Force on Instagram IPTF on TikTok Produced and edited by SEA Studios

    53 min
  6. The Untapped Power of Mutual and Friendly Societies in Income Protection

    04/03/2025

    The Untapped Power of Mutual and Friendly Societies in Income Protection

    In this month's episode, Matt and Stevie explore the unique role of mutual societies and friendly societies in the income protection market, examining their history, customer benefits, and future growth potential under the new Labour government by speaking to Andrew Morris, CEO of Cirencester Friendly and Nicola Huxley of Sphere Financial Services Listen now to learn more about: • How Mutuals and friendlies are owned by members (policyholders) rather than shareholders • How these societies often excel at providing cover for clients with niche occupations or pre-existing conditions • The Labour government's commitment to doubling the size of the mutual finance sector as part of its manifesto • How Nicola Huxley's insights into focusing on multi-policy rather than multi-benefit sourcing to help identify mutual options • How mutuals reinvest profits to benefit members • Mutuals often provide more personalised underwriting and claims experiences • The legislative challenges the sector faces,  but the significant growth opportunities • How experienced advisers can leverage mutual partnerships for enhanced client retention and business growth Links from the episode: IPTF's 7 Claims Stories - Story 1 with Cirencester Friendly Nicola Huxley on InstagramNicola Huxley's "Survive & Thrive" PodcastCirencester Friendly📣 For More Education, Collaboration and Insight: IPTF Website IPTF on LinkedIn IPTF on YouTube IP Task Force on Instagram IPTF on TikTok Produced and edited by SEA Studios

    55 min

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Let's Talk Income Protection is the official podcast of the Income Protection Task Force (IPTF), designed to educate, engage, and inspire financial professionals in the field of Income Protection. We tackle industry challenges, explore evolving trends, and provide practical insights to help advisers better serve their clients. Let's Talk IP is co-hosted by Matthew Chapman, The Protection Coach and Stevie Arnoldi, Content Associate for the IPTF. Join us as we look beyond financial advice, focusing on income protection, a subject often overlooked but undeniably vital for financial resilience. In each episode, Matt, renowned as The Protection Coach, along with industry experts brings his expertise to the forefront, shining a spotlight on income protection. Whether you're a seasoned financial adviser or someone eager to enhance your financial literacy, "Let's Talk IP" is the go-to resource for understanding the importance of income protection in securing a stable financial future for clients. We’re diving deep into real conversations that matter, as well as simple techniques for refining your advice process and increasing your income protection sales. 💡 Why Listen? Expert Insights: Matthew Chapman, with years of experience as The Protection Coach along with our expert guests provides invaluable insights and strategies for financial advisers to navigate the landscape of income protection seamlessly. CPD! Each episode contributes to your unstructured CPD total. Consumer Empowerment: Discover the power of income protection in fostering financial resilience among consumers. Learn how this often-overlooked aspect can be a game-changer in uncertain times. Practical Guidance: From industry trends to case studies, each episode offers practical guidance, empowering financial advisers to advocate effectively for income protection. Get your burning questions answered!: Send us your voice notes via SpeakPipe.com/LetsTalkIPPodcast or via email at info@iptf.co.uk   📣 Connect with IPTF: The IPTF exists to raise awareness about the vital role that income protection plays in ensuring financial resilience for policyholders. Stay updated on the latest podcast episodes, up-to-date insight and market data, and insights from other advisers by connecting with the Income Protection Task Force on social media: IPTF LinkedIn 🔊 Subscribe and Stay Informed: Don't miss out on the conversation! Subscribe to "Let's Talk IP" to receive regular expert advice and thought-provoking discussions. Be part of the movement to prioritise income protection in financial planning.

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