10 episodes

Rarely do you find a legal podcast as raw, candid and powerful as Trying 2 Win, a show about real-life legal battles inside and outside the courtroom. Sara Lincoln and Tricia Derr, co-founders of Lincoln Derr, have practiced law for more than 25 years. In building an enviable track record of success, they’ve also collected incredible stories. In Trying 2 Win, they share those stories, covering everything from early successes and failures to diversity in the courtroom to challenging witness interrogations and more. They also host special guests who share their unique experiences, whether that’s building a case behind the scenes or fighting it out in court. Whether you’re new to your law career or a seasoned veteran, this is the legal podcast you’ve been waiting for. It’s everything you wish they taught you in law school and so much more.

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Rarely do you find a legal podcast as raw, candid and powerful as Trying 2 Win, a show about real-life legal battles inside and outside the courtroom. Sara Lincoln and Tricia Derr, co-founders of Lincoln Derr, have practiced law for more than 25 years. In building an enviable track record of success, they’ve also collected incredible stories. In Trying 2 Win, they share those stories, covering everything from early successes and failures to diversity in the courtroom to challenging witness interrogations and more. They also host special guests who share their unique experiences, whether that’s building a case behind the scenes or fighting it out in court. Whether you’re new to your law career or a seasoned veteran, this is the legal podcast you’ve been waiting for. It’s everything you wish they taught you in law school and so much more.

    Litigators vs. Trial Lawyers: Is there a Difference? Episode 15

    Litigators vs. Trial Lawyers: Is there a Difference? Episode 15

    Lincoln Derr attorney Jeremy Sugg joined us in the studio to pose an interesting question: Is there a difference between trial lawyers and litigators? The answer: It’s complicated. “The first time I ever heard the two phrases used, to the […]

    • 24 min
    So You Want To Be A Trial Lawyer Episode 14

    So You Want To Be A Trial Lawyer Episode 14

    What does it take to be a trial lawyer? And how can young lawyers know if it’s the right choice for them? On this episode of Trying 2 Win, Sara Lincoln and Tricia Derr, co-founders of the civil litigation firm […]

    • 44 min
    Medical Board Complaints – A Guide for Healthcare Providers Episode 13

    Medical Board Complaints – A Guide for Healthcare Providers Episode 13

    Medical Board Complaints - A Guide for Healthcare Providers



    These days, filing complaints against medical professionals to the North Carolina Medical Board is about as easy as leaving a Google review. The result: significantly more complaints. In 2022 alone, our office has received an average of one request every day to help medical professionals navigate these complaints. So, what should healthcare providers do if they fall on the receiving end of one?

    • 42 min
    Judge Jesse Caldwell III: The Man Behind the Robe Episode 11

    Judge Jesse Caldwell III: The Man Behind the Robe Episode 11

    In this episode of Trying 2 Win, Sara Lincoln and Tricia Derr talk with recently retired Superior Court Judge Jesse Caldwell III about life on and off the bench.



    Judge Caldwell, who has nearly 50 years of courtroom experience, visited us for a follow-up interview to Unfurling the 'scarlet thread of justice' with Judge Jesse Caldwell III. He opens up about moments of levity, strange occurrences, and surprises throughout his career. His recollections include cell phones going off, ceiling tiles falling on Girl Scouts, bailiffs kissing lawyers, and everything in between. “Almost 50 years worth of stories and a lot of good justice that was done,” he says.

    • 38 min
    Unfurling the ‘scarlet thread of fairness’ with Judge Jesse Caldwell III Episode 10

    Unfurling the ‘scarlet thread of fairness’ with Judge Jesse Caldwell III Episode 10

    In this episode of Trying 2 Win, Sara Lincoln and Tricia Derr talk with recently retired Superior Court Judge Jesse Caldwell III, who has nearly 50 years of courtroom experience that culminated in a 28-year stint as a Superior Court judge in Gaston County, making him the longest-serving Superior Court Judge in the division.



    Dubbed “the renaissance man” by Tricia, Judge Caldwell has many interests that he feels have helped him both on the bench and as a lawyer. He’s an actor, writer, foodie, and preacher who said his biggest interest is the people in his community...

    • 36 min
    First Liar Always Loses: The “Brief Series”

    First Liar Always Loses: The “Brief Series”

    First Liar Always Loses Honesty is the best policy, and when you’re before a judge, it’s your safest bet. In this “Brief Series” episode (only 10 minutes) , Tricia and Sara discuss why lying in the courtroom is a bad […]

    • 12 min

Customer Reviews

5.0 out of 5
28 Ratings

28 Ratings

kaywren1 ,

So interesting and enjoyable

I have enjoyed the first two podcasts and am eager to hear more. I don’t have a legal background but I enjoy hearing the inside anecdotes. And as a female I enjoy hearing how they have handled situations that all women in business have faced in some form. It’s very heartening that they are encouraging females to step into the trial arena. Thanks for such a unique podcast.

LBF Literacy ,

Big fan

Ready for more from these 2 successful female attorneys! From someone who’s not an attorney, I appreciate their advice to get yourself “out there” early in your career. Best knowledge comes from courtroom experience not textbooks, sitting in lecture hall, or sitting behind a desk. I found this to be true in field of banking and education.

ATLLfan4lifee:) ,

Great podcast!

They make me want to be a lawyer!

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