Listen Then Speak

Jahmaal Marshall

Our desire is to sit and chop it up with anyone from best selling authors to successful entrepreneurs and get a sense of the highs and lows of their journey. We want to delve past the surface to see how their culture, faith, career choices, and mental health have brought them to their current destination and broach topics that will provoke both thought and action in listeners.

  1. 1d ago

    Growing Up in Chaos Can Make Peace Feel Suspicious w/Jahmaal Marshall

    What You’ll Hear in This Episode A Question That Hits Different Jahmaal opens with a question most people have never allowed themselves to answer honestly: Have you ever had something go right, and felt more anxious, not less? The cold open sets the tone for an episode built on radical self-honesty. The Chaos Blueprint - How Your Nervous System Got Wired Your childhood home wasn’t just where you grew up, it was your first classroom in what ‘normal’ feels like. Jahmaal breaks down how environments of unpredictability, emotional unavailability, and constant crisis train the nervous system to seek tension as a form of regulation. When your baseline is chaos, calm doesn’t feel peaceful, it feels suspicious. Key insight: The brain doesn’t chase what’s good for you. It chases what’s familiar. And familiar can be quietly destroying you. The Four Sabotage Patterns Jahmaal names the four most common ways unprocessed wounds show up as self-sabotage in adult life:   1.  The Hyper-Guarded Heart Building walls so high that genuinely safe people can’t get in, and then using their eventual exit as proof that no one can be trusted. 2.  Creating Drama in the Calm Stirring conflict when things are running smoothly, not out of malice, but because the nervous system doesn’t know how to trust stillness. 3.  Escapism and Numbing Drifting into overwork, overindulgence, over-scrolling, or any behavior that keeps you slightly off-balance, because sitting in genuine peace means sitting with the feelings you’ve spent years outrunning. 4.  Settling for Less Walking away from great opportunities and returning to the comfortable mediocre, not because something is wrong with the opportunity, but because a subconscious identity built in lack doesn’t believe it gets to have great things.   The Leadership Layer - Why This Is a Professional Conversation Too This isn’t just personal development. For anyone in a position of leadership: executives, entrepreneurs, managers, coaches, pastors, parents; unprocessed wounds don’t stay behind closed doors. They show up in:   How you manage (or micromanage) your team Which opportunities you accept or quietly talk yourself out of Whether your culture is built on trust and vision, or fear and control How you respond when talented people begin to outpace your comfort zone   The most expensive thing in any organization isn’t a bad strategy. It’s an unhealed leader.   CONNECT WITH JAHMAAL   LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jahmaalmarshall/ DM me the word "Peace" to get the conversation started Website: https://listenthenspeak.com/ If you're ready to get measured results for both personally and professionally, schedule an appointment with Jahmaal BUY ME A Coffee - with this link: https://buymeacoffee.com/listenthenspeak?new=1   Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

    23 min
  2. May 16

    How Growing Up in Chaos Can Make Peace Feel Suspicious - Jahmaal Marshall

    KEY TAKEAWAYS What to Walk Away With Chaos isn’t just an external circumstance, for many people, it’s an internal identity built in childhood. Your nervous system will always move toward what’s familiar, not what’s healthy, until you consciously rewire it. Self-sabotage is not a character flaw. It is a protection strategy that outlived its usefulness. Leaders carry their wounds into their organizations. Healing isn’t soft, it is a competitive advantage. Peace is a skill that can be developed. Tolerating good is the practice. The gap between where you are and where you know you’re supposed to be is often not about strategy, it’s about subconscious belief. This One’s Especially for You If… You’ve ever felt more comfortable in struggle than in success You recognize patterns of pulling away just when things start going well You’re a leader who wonders why your culture feels tense even when nothing is ‘wrong’ You’ve settled for a relationship, a job, or a version of yourself that you know doesn’t match your full potential You’re doing all the right things externally but still feel an unexplainable resistance to receiving good You know the word ‘hypervigilant’ applies to you but haven’t known what to do with it CONNECT + WORK WITH JAHMAAL Ready to Do the Work? If this episode opened something in you, if you’re done cycling between chaos and confusion, done leaving great things on the table, done leading from a wound instead of a vision; Jahmaal works directly with individuals and leaders ready to close that gap. ▸  Book a Strategy Call:  ▸  DM “PEACE” on LinkedIn:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/jahmaalmarshall/ ▸  Follow the Podcast:  Available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and all major platforms ▸  Leave a Rating & Review:  Your review helps this message reach the people who need it most. ▸  Share This Episode:  You never know whose life you’re about to change. Support: Every penny counts in helping spread this message across the Globe https://buymeacoffee.com/listenthenspeak?new=1   Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

    27 min
  3. Apr 30

    "Know Your Worth. Watch What Leaves."

    WHAT WE COVER IN THIS EPISODE [00:00] Cold Open — Starting in the middle, because that's where most of you are [03:30] Why toxicity doesn't find you by accident - it finds a frequency [08:00] The curiosity problem: why we're endlessly curious about others and remarkably uncurious about ourselves [13:15] Why "know your worth" has become a slogan - and what actually discovering your worth looks like [18:00] The 4-Stage Clarity Process:          Stage 1 - Discomfort: What comes up when you start asking real questions          Stage 2 - The Shedding: Why things fall away and why that's not failure          Stage 3 - The Emerging: How clarity shifts who enters your orbit          Stage 4 - Maintenance: Why clarity is a practice, not a milestone [26:00] The "waiting" pattern, and why it's not patience, it's outsourcing [31:00] Closing reframe: chaos in your life is information about you, not something happening to you [33:30] Call to Action + Premium Strategy Hour KEY QUOTES FROM THIS EPISODE "Toxicity doesn't target the strong. It targets the unclear." "The version of you that knows their worth doesn't just say it — they live at a frequency where certain things simply cannot survive." "Clarity is a filter you never have to consciously operate. It just works." "You don't need permission to begin the process of becoming who you already are." "That waiting isn't patience. That's outsourcing." "The situation will not resolve first. You resolve first." "These aren't failures. These are maps." RESOURCES & NEXT STEPS Work with Jahmaal - Premium Strategy Hour If this episode hit something real, the Premium Strategy Hour is a single, focused, unsparing session designed to go directly into the internal narratives keeping you stagnant — the stories you've normalized, the patterns you've explained away, the lack of clarity that has you waiting on someone else to move first. Spots are extremely limited and are not held on a waitlist. When they're gone, the door closes. → Visit: listenthenspeak.com  → Or DM the word CLARITY on Linkedin to check availability This is not a sales call. It is strategic, honest, and built for people who are done with insight without implementation.     Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

    24 min
  4. Apr 16

    How to Turn Your Passion into Profit

    A strong brand presence does not start with better gear. It starts with knowing how you want to show up.   I sat down with Junaid Ahmed to talk about what it really takes to build a strong presence on and off camera without burning yourself out in the process. We got into the connection between emotional intelligence, storytelling, and studio setup, and why the best content starts with clarity long before you buy more gear.   Junaid is the founder of Home Studio Mastery and the host of Hacks & Hobbies, where he helps entrepreneurs, creators, and business owners create studio setups that match the quality of their message. In this conversation, he shares how his own journey in video production, podcasting, and problem-solving led him to help others show up with more confidence, better systems, and a more intentional brand presence.   We also talk through practical ways to improve your content right now, including framing, lighting, audio, and the importance of staying teachable as you grow. This one is full of insight for anyone who wants to communicate with more impact and show up more powerfully in their work. Interested in Launching your own Podcast? Podcast Principles can help! Book a call below to learn more. https://calendly.com/podcastprinciples/discover   Episode Highlights:   0:00 - Introduction 1:03 - Meet Junaid 1:36 - Junaid’s favorite genre of music (and how it influences him) 4:44 - How Junaid developed his sense of calm 11:23 - ‘Energetic types’ 19:37 - What moved Junaid to help people build their brands 26:44 - Recommendations to improve your content right now 34:49 - Episode wrap-up   CONNECT WITH JAHMAAL   LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jahmaalmarshall/ Website: https://listenthenspeak.com/   If you're ready to get measured results for both personally and professionally, schedule an appointment with Jahmaal BUY ME A Coffee - with this link: https://buymeacoffee.com/listenthenspeak?new=1   Interested in learning more about Junaid?   Website: https://homestudiomastery.com/ Book: https://homestudiobook.com/ Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

    37 min
  5. Apr 9

    The Keys to How Clarity Reduces Stress and Burnout w/ Steve Woodruff

    The way you communicate can open doors, or quietly close them.   On this week’s episode, I sat down with Steve Woodruff to talk about what it really means to communicate with clarity, own your strengths, and become unforgettable in the way you show up.    Steve is known as the “King of Clarity” – and his Clarity Formula is designed to help businesses and business owners unlock more revenue.   He shares how simplifying your message, understanding your unique value, and creating what he calls “memory darts” can help you stand out, earn more referrals, and move with greater confidence in your work and calling. It’s a powerful conversation on identity, alignment, and saying what matters in a way people actually remember. Interested in Launching your own Podcast? Podcast Principles can help! Book a call below to learn more. https://calendly.com/podcastprinciples/discover   Episode Highlights:   0:00 - Introduction 1:15 - Meet Steve Woodruff 3:06 - Steve’s favorite genre of music 6:53 - Steve’s shift away from corporate 11:11 - Finding your true purpose and identifying mismatch 14:16 - “Redeeming the time”, finding your path 19:21 - “Memory darts” 25:23 - How you can get in touch with Steve 27:26 - Final thoughts   CONNECT WITH JAHMAAL   LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jahmaalmarshall/ Website: https://listenthenspeak.com/   If you're ready to get measured results for both personally and professionally, schedule an appointment with Jahmaal   BUY ME A Coffee - with this link: https://buymeacoffee.com/listenthenspeak?new=1 Interested in learning more about Steve? Website: https://www.stevewoodruff.com/ Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/swoodruff/   Book - Clarity Wins:  https://www.amazon.com/Clarity-Wins-Get-Heard-Referred/dp/1732857105/ref=sr_1_1?crid=249NH5OG9SPL&keywords=Clarity%20Wins%20by%20Steve%20Woodruff&qid=1695139262&sprefix=clarity%20win%20by%20steve%20woodruff%2Caps%2C150&sr=8-1 Book: The Point:  https://orderthepoint.carrd.co/ Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

    29 min
  6. Apr 2

    Chemistry Can Lie. Character Always Tells the Truth

    Jahmaal unpacks the difference between chemistry and character, and why so many people confuse emotional intensity with genuine alignment.  In this solo episode, he breaks down how powerful connection can cloud judgment in relationships, friendships, business, and even hiring decisions. He challenges listeners to stop using feelings as proof, start paying attention to patterns, and recognize that closure does not always come from the other person.  This conversation is a thoughtful reminder that character reveals itself over time, and real peace begins when people stop outsourcing their healing and start choosing clarity for themselves. Interested in Launching your own Podcast? Podcast Principles can help! Book a call below to learn more. https://calendly.com/podcastprinciples/discover   Episode Highlights:   0:00 - Introduction 2:41 - Chemistry 7:47 - Character 13:36 - The trap of ‘waiting for closure’ 18:09 - Three practical shifts 20:54 - Final thoughts   CONNECT WITH JAHMAAL   Book your Strategy Hour: https://calendly.com/listenthenspeak/the-rewire-roadmap-vip-clone   Mention Listen Then Speak when you book.   LinkedIn:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/jahmaalmarshall/ Website: https://listenthenspeak.com/   If you're ready to get measured results for both personally and professionally, schedule an appointment with Jahmaal BUY ME A Coffee - with this link: https://buymeacoffee.com/listenthenspeak?new=1 Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

    24 min
  7. Mar 26

    Building Legacy After Losing Everything w/ Terry Rice

    Interested in Launching your own Podcast? Podcast Principles can help! Book a call below to learn more. https://calendly.com/podcastprinciples/discover   In this episode, I sit down with Terry Rice, speaker, entrepreneur, and leadership trainer, for a real conversation about addiction, identity, fatherhood, discipline, and what it means to live in alignment.  Terry brings the perspective of someone who has rebuilt more than once, opening up about getting fired from Facebook, losing his son TJ, and how those experiences shaped the way he leads, lives, and serves others today. We talk about overcoming alcoholism, building a life with intention, and using your scars, not to hide, but to help others grow. Honest, challenging, and full of perspective, this one is for anyone trying to lead with more clarity, purpose, and truth.   Episode Highlights: 0:00 - Introduction 1:37 - Favorite genre of music and how it informs Terry’s life 4:15 - How Terry utilizes the gym 6:05 - Building resilience 8:35 - Terry’s why and his addiction to alcohol 13:57 - Exploring ‘functional addiction’ 18:01 - How Terry hit his brick wall 24:38 - Your sense of purpose and conquering your addictions 27:52 - “What drives you today?” 32:55 - Work/life rhythms and getting alignment 39:37 - Being a dad and working, or having a business 42:23 - Episode wrap-up   CONNECT WITH JAHMAAL   LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jahmaalmarshall/ Website: https://listenthenspeak.com/ If you're ready to get measured results for both personally and professionally, schedule an appointment with Jahmaal BUY ME A Coffee - with this link: https://buymeacoffee.com/listenthenspeak?new=1   Interested in learning more about Terry?   https://performancesystems.co/keynote https://buildwiththem.com/ Linkedin - https://www.linkedin.com/in/terry-rice/ Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/itsterryrice/   https://performancesystems.co/ R³ Performance Systems helps leaders and organizations build systems that work whether they feel motivated or not. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

    45 min
  8. Mar 19

    Waiting for Closure Is Costing You Everything

    WHAT YOU’LL HEAR IN THIS EPISODE 01 - The Myth of External Closure We’ve been conditioned to believe closure is something someone else delivers. Jahmaal unpacks why that belief is both biologically understandable and deeply damaging and introduces the Zeigarnik Effect, the psychological reason our minds grip unfinished situations so tightly. “Closure is not a conversation. It’s a decision you make inside yourself about what that chapter meant and what you’re going to do next.” 02 - The Self-Sabotage Nobody Talks About When unresolved pain goes unprocessed, we carry it forward, transferring it onto new managers, new partners, new collaborators who had nothing to do with the original wound. Jahmaal names this pattern “transferring pain forward” and explains why it masquerades as wisdom, discernment, and self-protection. Key distinction from this segment: Boundaries built from wisdom: identifying patterns, doing the work, watching for early signs Walls built from unhealed wounds: treating everyone who resembles your past as a present-day threat “You are punishing people for crimes they didn’t commit — and losing the very opportunities that could heal you. 03 - Your Internal Triggers Are Running the Show A trigger isn’t just an emotional reaction — it’s your nervous system signaling that something unprocessed has been activated. The problem is that your nervous system cannot distinguish between what is actually dangerous and what merely resembles something that was dangerous before. The result: you make survival decisions in contexts where survival isn’t actually at stake. You are fighting yesterday’s battle in today’s arena. “When your unhealed triggers are driving, your future is being written by your past.” Jahmaal also addresses why insight alone doesn’t equal healing and what it actually takes to update the internal narrative written at your most vulnerable moment. 04 - The Psychological Safety You’re Creating for Yourself Here’s the reframe: your self-sabotage isn’t random. It isn’t weakness. It is strategy, a set of protective behaviors your psyche built to keep you safe. But there’s a critical difference between manufactured safety and real psychological safety. Manufactured safety: controlled demolition of your own potential before someone else can cause the damage Real psychological safety: the inner confidence that you can handle whatever comes, you will not be destroyed CONNECT WITH JAHMAAL If you're ready to get measured results for both personally and professionally, schedule a 1 Hour Strategy Call with Jahmaal - LTS2026Closure  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jahmaalmarshall/ Website: https://listenthenspeak.com/ BUY ME A Coffee - with this link: https://buymeacoffee.com/listenthenspeak?new=1 Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

    27 min
5
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181 Ratings

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Our desire is to sit and chop it up with anyone from best selling authors to successful entrepreneurs and get a sense of the highs and lows of their journey. We want to delve past the surface to see how their culture, faith, career choices, and mental health have brought them to their current destination and broach topics that will provoke both thought and action in listeners.

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