Listen Then Speak

Jahmaal Marshall

Our desire is to sit and chop it up with anyone from best selling authors to successful entrepreneurs and get a sense of the highs and lows of their journey. We want to delve past the surface to see how their culture, faith, career choices, and mental health have brought them to their current destination and broach topics that will provoke both thought and action in listeners.

  1. 11H AGO

    The Keys to How Clarity Reduces Stress and Burnout w/ Steve Woodruff

    The way you communicate can open doors, or quietly close them.   On this week’s episode, I sat down with Steve Woodruff to talk about what it really means to communicate with clarity, own your strengths, and become unforgettable in the way you show up.    Steve is known as the “King of Clarity” – and his Clarity Formula is designed to help businesses and business owners unlock more revenue.   He shares how simplifying your message, understanding your unique value, and creating what he calls “memory darts” can help you stand out, earn more referrals, and move with greater confidence in your work and calling. It’s a powerful conversation on identity, alignment, and saying what matters in a way people actually remember. Interested in Launching your own Podcast? Podcast Principles can help! Book a call below to learn more. https://calendly.com/podcastprinciples/discover   Episode Highlights:   0:00 - Introduction 1:15 - Meet Steve Woodruff 3:06 - Steve’s favorite genre of music 6:53 - Steve’s shift away from corporate 11:11 - Finding your true purpose and identifying mismatch 14:16 - “Redeeming the time”, finding your path 19:21 - “Memory darts” 25:23 - How you can get in touch with Steve 27:26 - Final thoughts   CONNECT WITH JAHMAAL   LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jahmaalmarshall/ Website: https://listenthenspeak.com/   If you're ready to get measured results for both personally and professionally, schedule an appointment with Jahmaal   BUY ME A Coffee - with this link: https://buymeacoffee.com/listenthenspeak?new=1 Interested in learning more about Steve? Website: https://www.stevewoodruff.com/ Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/swoodruff/   Book - Clarity Wins:  https://www.amazon.com/Clarity-Wins-Get-Heard-Referred/dp/1732857105/ref=sr_1_1?crid=249NH5OG9SPL&keywords=Clarity%20Wins%20by%20Steve%20Woodruff&qid=1695139262&sprefix=clarity%20win%20by%20steve%20woodruff%2Caps%2C150&sr=8-1 Book: The Point:  https://orderthepoint.carrd.co/ Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

    29 min
  2. APR 2

    Chemistry Can Lie. Character Always Tells the Truth

    Jahmaal unpacks the difference between chemistry and character, and why so many people confuse emotional intensity with genuine alignment.  In this solo episode, he breaks down how powerful connection can cloud judgment in relationships, friendships, business, and even hiring decisions. He challenges listeners to stop using feelings as proof, start paying attention to patterns, and recognize that closure does not always come from the other person.  This conversation is a thoughtful reminder that character reveals itself over time, and real peace begins when people stop outsourcing their healing and start choosing clarity for themselves. Interested in Launching your own Podcast? Podcast Principles can help! Book a call below to learn more. https://calendly.com/podcastprinciples/discover   Episode Highlights:   0:00 - Introduction 2:41 - Chemistry 7:47 - Character 13:36 - The trap of ‘waiting for closure’ 18:09 - Three practical shifts 20:54 - Final thoughts   CONNECT WITH JAHMAAL   Book your Strategy Hour: https://calendly.com/listenthenspeak/the-rewire-roadmap-vip-clone   Mention Listen Then Speak when you book.   LinkedIn:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/jahmaalmarshall/ Website: https://listenthenspeak.com/   If you're ready to get measured results for both personally and professionally, schedule an appointment with Jahmaal BUY ME A Coffee - with this link: https://buymeacoffee.com/listenthenspeak?new=1 Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

    24 min
  3. MAR 26

    Building Legacy After Losing Everything w/ Terry Rice

    Interested in Launching your own Podcast? Podcast Principles can help! Book a call below to learn more. https://calendly.com/podcastprinciples/discover   In this episode, I sit down with Terry Rice, speaker, entrepreneur, and leadership trainer, for a real conversation about addiction, identity, fatherhood, discipline, and what it means to live in alignment.  Terry brings the perspective of someone who has rebuilt more than once, opening up about getting fired from Facebook, losing his son TJ, and how those experiences shaped the way he leads, lives, and serves others today. We talk about overcoming alcoholism, building a life with intention, and using your scars, not to hide, but to help others grow. Honest, challenging, and full of perspective, this one is for anyone trying to lead with more clarity, purpose, and truth.   Episode Highlights: 0:00 - Introduction 1:37 - Favorite genre of music and how it informs Terry’s life 4:15 - How Terry utilizes the gym 6:05 - Building resilience 8:35 - Terry’s why and his addiction to alcohol 13:57 - Exploring ‘functional addiction’ 18:01 - How Terry hit his brick wall 24:38 - Your sense of purpose and conquering your addictions 27:52 - “What drives you today?” 32:55 - Work/life rhythms and getting alignment 39:37 - Being a dad and working, or having a business 42:23 - Episode wrap-up   CONNECT WITH JAHMAAL   LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jahmaalmarshall/ Website: https://listenthenspeak.com/ If you're ready to get measured results for both personally and professionally, schedule an appointment with Jahmaal BUY ME A Coffee - with this link: https://buymeacoffee.com/listenthenspeak?new=1   Interested in learning more about Terry?   https://performancesystems.co/keynote https://buildwiththem.com/ Linkedin - https://www.linkedin.com/in/terry-rice/ Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/itsterryrice/   https://performancesystems.co/ R³ Performance Systems helps leaders and organizations build systems that work whether they feel motivated or not. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

    45 min
  4. MAR 19

    Waiting for Closure Is Costing You Everything

    WHAT YOU’LL HEAR IN THIS EPISODE 01 - The Myth of External Closure We’ve been conditioned to believe closure is something someone else delivers. Jahmaal unpacks why that belief is both biologically understandable and deeply damaging and introduces the Zeigarnik Effect, the psychological reason our minds grip unfinished situations so tightly. “Closure is not a conversation. It’s a decision you make inside yourself about what that chapter meant and what you’re going to do next.” 02 - The Self-Sabotage Nobody Talks About When unresolved pain goes unprocessed, we carry it forward, transferring it onto new managers, new partners, new collaborators who had nothing to do with the original wound. Jahmaal names this pattern “transferring pain forward” and explains why it masquerades as wisdom, discernment, and self-protection. Key distinction from this segment: Boundaries built from wisdom: identifying patterns, doing the work, watching for early signs Walls built from unhealed wounds: treating everyone who resembles your past as a present-day threat “You are punishing people for crimes they didn’t commit — and losing the very opportunities that could heal you. 03 - Your Internal Triggers Are Running the Show A trigger isn’t just an emotional reaction — it’s your nervous system signaling that something unprocessed has been activated. The problem is that your nervous system cannot distinguish between what is actually dangerous and what merely resembles something that was dangerous before. The result: you make survival decisions in contexts where survival isn’t actually at stake. You are fighting yesterday’s battle in today’s arena. “When your unhealed triggers are driving, your future is being written by your past.” Jahmaal also addresses why insight alone doesn’t equal healing and what it actually takes to update the internal narrative written at your most vulnerable moment. 04 - The Psychological Safety You’re Creating for Yourself Here’s the reframe: your self-sabotage isn’t random. It isn’t weakness. It is strategy, a set of protective behaviors your psyche built to keep you safe. But there’s a critical difference between manufactured safety and real psychological safety. Manufactured safety: controlled demolition of your own potential before someone else can cause the damage Real psychological safety: the inner confidence that you can handle whatever comes, you will not be destroyed CONNECT WITH JAHMAAL If you're ready to get measured results for both personally and professionally, schedule a 1 Hour Strategy Call with Jahmaal - LTS2026Closure  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jahmaalmarshall/ Website: https://listenthenspeak.com/ BUY ME A Coffee - with this link: https://buymeacoffee.com/listenthenspeak?new=1 Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

    27 min
  5. MAR 12

    Sustainability on the Front Lines - How to Live in a State of Overflow in High Stress Environments w/ Dr. Gwendolyn Oglesby-Odom

    Interested in Launching your own Podcast? Podcast Principles can help! Book a call below to learn more. https://calendly.com/podcastprinciples/discover   Burnout does not start with your calendar. It starts with what you keep tolerating.    In this episode, I sit down with Dr. Gwendolyn Oglesby-Odom, a healthcare executive and transformational servant leader, for a powerful conversation on boundaries, psychological safety, self-care, and what it really takes to lead without losing yourself. From non-negotiables and team culture to vulnerability and sustainable leadership, this episode is packed with wisdom for anyone trying to build healthier people and stronger teams.   Episode Highlights: 0:24 - Introduction 1:40 - Favorite genre of music and how it shapes her life 3:29 - The wellness gap for leaders on the front lines 4:05 - Why self-care has to be scheduled 5:31 - Night routines, boundaries, and protecting rest 7:36 - Non-negotiables and the cost of renegotiating them 10:17 - Delegation, team structure, and leadership vision 12:51 - Psychological safety and leading with vulnerability 20:15 - What to do when your work environment is draining you 23:00 - Vacation, refueling, and the leadership case for rest 25:51 - Leading with love and building a healthy team culture 35:11 - Dr. Gwen’s billion-dollar healthcare investment in Chicago   CONNECT WITH JAHMAAL   LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jahmaalmarshall/ Website: https://listenthenspeak.com/ If you're ready to get measured results for both personally and professionally, schedule an appointment with Jahmaal BUY ME A Coffee - with this link: https://buymeacoffee.com/listenthenspeak?new=1   Interested in learning more about Gwendolyn?   Linkedin:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-gwendolyn-oglesby-odom-ed-d-msn-bsn-rn-bc-nea-bc-0037482/ Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

    37 min
  6. MAR 5

    Boundaries Without Bitterness: The Discipline That Protects Your Peace and Elevates Your Life

    Interested in Launching your own Podcast? Podcast Principles can help! Book a call below to learn more. https://calendly.com/podcastprinciples/discover Peace isn’t the absence of pressure. It’s the presence of structure. In this solo episode, Jahmaal breaks down boundaries without bitterness and why most people don’t struggle with saying no, they struggle with guilt, fear, and the need to be liked. He shares how resentment builds when you wait too long, why overexplaining kills a boundary’s authority, and the simple framework that helps you set limits with clarity, consistency, and calm. If you’re tired of protecting your peace with attitude, this one gives you the roadmap to protect it with discipline.   Episode Highlights: 0:00 - Introduction 0:25 - Episode open 2:23 - The ‘B’ word (boundaries) 3:39 - Bitterness and what no boundaries gets you 11:07 - The affect on your business 14:07 - Why do we avoid boundaries? 16:03 - Being kind doesn’t always mean being available 17:31 - Clarity, consistency and calm 19:04 - The challenge for this week + closing thoughts   Interested in Launching your own Podcast? Podcast Principles can help! Book a call below to learn more. https://calendly.com/podcastprinciples/discover   CONNECT WITH JAHMAAL   LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jahmaalmarshall/ Website: https://listenthenspeak.com/   If you're ready to get measured results for both personally and professionally, schedule an appointment with Jahmaal   BUY ME A Coffee - with this link:    https://buymeacoffee.com/listenthenspeak?new=1 Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

    23 min
  7. FEB 26

    What Happens when the Devil Emails at Midnight w/ Mita Mallick

    Interested in Launching your own Podcast? Podcast Principles can help! Book a call below to learn more. https://calendly.com/podcastprinciples/discover   On this episode of Listen Then Speak, I sit down with my friend (and repeat guest) Mita Mallick to talk about her new book, The Devil Emails at Midnight: What Good Leaders Can Learn from Bad Bosses. We get into the real workplace dynamics so many people quietly deal with: chaos, burnout, and “lethal loyalty”, and what it actually looks like to set boundaries without blowing up your career. Mita shares how her upbringing as the daughter of Indian immigrant parents shaped the way she approached work, why “keep your head down and work hard” can backfire in modern corporate culture, and how bad bosses don’t just create stress, they create ripple effects that drain entire teams. We also unpack one of the book’s most memorable archetypes, “The White Rabbit” manager, and walk through practical ways to manage up, prioritize what’s urgent vs. important, and build a communication framework that protects your time and sanity. If you’ve ever felt pressured to be available 24/7, struggled to advocate for yourself, or wondered how to lead well in a broken culture, this conversation is for you.   Episode Highlights: 0:00 - Introduction 0:53 - Meet Mita! 2:25 - Favorite genre of music 3:07 - Management, flexibility and being a role model 5:30 - The start of Mita’s career and how her parent’s culture informed it 12:06 - The ‘F’ word (family) 17:09 - The “white rabbit” 21:16 - “Managing up” with a ‘white rabbit’ 27:07 - Getting over the fear of ‘managing up’ 30:13 - Urgency exhaustion and guarding your true priorities 33:59 - Advice to service-based, or faith-based professionals 38:12 - Where you can get Mita’s book   CONNECT WITH JAHMAAL   LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jahmaalmarshall/ Website: https://listenthenspeak.com/ If you're ready to get measured results for both personally and professionally, schedule an appointment with Jahmaal BUY ME A Coffee - with this link: https://buymeacoffee.com/listenthenspeak?new=1   Interested in learning more about Mita Mallick? Website https://www.mitamallick.com/ Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mita-mallick-2b165822/ Book: https://www.amazon.com/Devil-Emails-Midnight-Leaders-Bosses/dp/1394316488 Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

    40 min
  8. FEB 19

    The Path to Success Comes By Serving w/ Chaz Horn

    Interested in Launching your own Podcast? Podcast Principles can help! Book a call below to learn more. https://calendly.com/podcastprinciples/discover   Burned out, stuck in your head, and still trying to lead like everything’s fine? In this episode of Listen then Speak, I sit down with entrepreneur and biohacker Chaz Horn to talk about what it actually looks like to stress less without lowering the bar. We get into the mindset shifts that move you from fear and survival mode into clarity, gratitude, and real self-awareness, plus a few simple habits that help you reset your energy and get your creativity back. We also zoom out to leadership and culture, including the difference between expectations and standards, and why collaboration might be the most overlooked growth strategy for high-performing leaders.   Episode Highlights:   0:00 - Introduction 1:55 - Favorite genre of music and how it influences Chaz 5:52 - ‘Bio-hacking’ and awareness around your emotions 11:12 - One simple mindset shift (that has a big impact) 14:21 - Gratitude 23:08 - ‘Good’ dopamine and ‘bad’ dopamine 26:08 - Chaz’s mediation story 29:06 - What the “body in motion” does to increase creativity 33:05 - What brought Chaz to what he does today 37:03 - Where you can find Chaz 39:09 - Episode wrap-up   CONNECT WITH JAHMAAL   LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jahmaalmarshall/ Website: https://listenthenspeak.com/ If you're ready to get measured results for both personally and professionally, schedule an appointment with Jahmaal BUY ME A Coffee - with this link: https://buymeacoffee.com/listenthenspeak?new=1   Interested in learning more about Chaz Horn? Website: https://chazhorn.com/the-b2b-blueprint-to-predictable-sales LinkedIn:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/chaz-horn/ Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

    41 min
5
out of 5
177 Ratings

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Our desire is to sit and chop it up with anyone from best selling authors to successful entrepreneurs and get a sense of the highs and lows of their journey. We want to delve past the surface to see how their culture, faith, career choices, and mental health have brought them to their current destination and broach topics that will provoke both thought and action in listeners.

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