Live Behind The Veil

The Epistles

"Live Behind The Veil" is an atmosphere created by men and women of God speaking in the Holy Spirit the Father's Word. Spiritual and temporal topics are addressed openly and without respect to political correctness or religious restraint. The underlying question is always being asked; "Are you hungry and open for more of what God is pouring out?"

  1. 20H AGO

    The Fire That Forms Oneness

    *Listen to the Show notes and podcast transcript with this multi-language player. SUMMARY This podcast explores the deeper work of God beyond salvation and the baptism of the Holy Spirit. The family emphasize that true oneness in the Body of Christ is formed not by gifts or experiences, but by the purifying fire of God that burns away the old nature. Many believers stop after initial experiences with the Lord, but God calls His people into a progressive, transformative journey that requires hunger, submission, and surrender. SHOW NOTES Many believers move in gifts but lack ongoing hunger.Gifts alone do not produce oneness—only continual revelation does.The Holy Spirit gives power but not transformation by itself.The fire burns away carnality, individuality, and self-centeredness.The early church was forged in fire—pressure, persecution, divine dealings.True oneness forms when people face fire together.When tested, believers can either submit or become bitter.Trials expose the “chaff”—selfishness, attitudes, and old patterns.God won’t force surrender.The key is asking what God desires.Believers were bought with a price.Self-will and personal control must submit to the potter’s hands.Being Christ’s disciple means relinquishing ownership of one’s life.Christ leads; believers follow.“This is just who I am” is not truth—God plans to remake His people. QUOTES Ken: “The gift without the hunger leaves something lacking.” “There is more. It’s an exciting, eventful journey into God.” “You’re the one God wants to change and create in His image.” Ron: “You may move in the gifts and still be very carnal.” “The fire is the next step God is requiring.” “If you’re not your own, you don’t get to make the decisions about your life anymore.” Debbie: “To become a son, you must go through the fire.” “To be a Kingdom disciple means I no longer belong to myself—I belong entirely to Christ.” “If Christ leads, nothing is wasted.” Mike: “You are not your own… you were bought with a price.” “We glorify God by letting Him come through the vessel.” Lois: “What is being burned out? Selfishness. All of those attitudes.” SCRIPTURAL REFERENCES - 1 Corinthians 6 (19–20) - Acts 2 – Day of Pentecost - Acts 5 (1–11) – Ananias & Sapphira - Philippians 1 (6) - Malachi 3 (2–3) - Romans 12 (1–2) - Luke 22 (42) - Isaiah 64 (8) - John 17 (21–23) TAKEAWAY The pathway to oneness in the Body of Christ is formed in the fire of God that burns away the old nature and forms His likeness in us. The fire reveals motives, removes selfishness, reshapes our identity, and brings us into a unity only God can create. Oneness is born when believers surrender their will, humble their hearts, embrace God’s dealings, and allow Christ to fully live through them. The fire is not punishment—it is formation, God’s love forging His sons into His image, together.

    13 min

  2. 4D AGO

    The Greater Works Of Oneness

    *Listen to the Show notes and podcast transcript with this multi-language player. Summary This message reveals that the “greater works” Jesus spoke of are not primarily outward signs and wonders, but the inward work of God forming His people into true oneness. Through the breaking of the human nature and the renewing of the mind and spirit, God is creating a people who can see with His eyes, love with His heart, and function together as a fully formed body in Christ. These greater works culminate in the completion of the Body of Christ—living, unified, and expressing God’s heart toward all. Show Notes • The “greater works” include miracles, but go far beyond outward manifestations • Human personality, mindset, and effort cannot produce true unity • Oneness is a work of the Spirit, not agreement of opinions • God is forming a people who are not recognizable by natural or religious standards • Comparison and self-measurement hinder spiritual transformation • A broken spirit allows God to change us more quickly and deeply • The greatest sign is what happens inwardly before it manifests outwardly • Seeing with God’s eyes removes contempt, prejudice, and judgment • Jesus consistently defied human ideas of worthiness • The ultimate greater work is the completion of the Body of Christ • Oneness reveals God’s heart toward every person • God alone receives the glory—this work cannot be credited to human effort Key Quotes “You cannot bring people into one mind naturally, but in the Spirit, God brings us into oneness.” “The greatest sign you’re going to see is the one that happens inside.” “God is creating something so new that it’s not recognizable—even to our own minds.” “Our spirit needs to be broken so God can change us quicker.” “The greater works ultimately turn into the completion of the Body of Christ.” “We can’t take any credit for this—it’s all about what He’s doing.” Scriptural References John 14 (12) – Greater works than these shall he do Ephesians 4 (13) – Unity of the faith and the full stature of Christ 1 Corinthians 12 (12–27) – One body, many members John 17 (20–23) – Jesus’ prayer for oneness Romans 12 (2) – Transformation through renewing of the mind Philippians 2 (5) – Having the mind of Christ 1 Corinthians 2 (16) – We have the mind of Christ Psalm 51 (17) – A broken and contrite heart Colossians 1 (27–28) – Christ in you, bringing us to completion Takeaway The greater works are not something we perform—they are something God forms within us. As our hearts are softened, our spirits broken before Him, and our vision purified, God brings us into true oneness. This inward transformation produces a unified Body that sees as He sees, loves as He loves, and stands complete together in Christ—right now.

    9 min

  3. FEB 18

    The Devastation That Forms A Royal Priesthood

    *Listen to the Show notes and podcast transcript with this multi-language player. Summary This conversation explores God’s work in forming not isolated individuals, but a corporate people—a family and a royal priesthood. Through devastation, humility, and submission, God is bringing forth a purified company that exists not for personal gain, recognition, or ministry ambition, but to minister to the Lord Himself. The family emphasize that devastation is not meaningless suffering but a divine process that strips away self-interest and prepares God’s people to walk as sons, worshipers, and priests. This priesthood is not defined by position or title, but by a spiritual state of being—one that fulfills God’s eternal purpose revealed from the foundation of the world. Show Notes God is shifting from individual ministry emphasis to acorporate, family expressionTeaching and ministry flow through thebody, not a single voiceEach believer carries a different aspect of what the Spirit is speakingDevastation humbles the heart and removes pride and self-ambitionGod is raising acompany, not elevating personalitiesWorship is offering ourselves fully to God as living sacrificesPriesthood is aspiritual state, not an individual roleThe motivation of walking with God changes from “what I get” to “what God gets”God is forming a people for His own possessionSons of God walk in the earth as Christ walkedTrue priesthood is formed through submission, not recognitionGod is the potter; we are the clay Key Quotes “The teaching priest is coming through the family, through the body—not one person.”“There is a greater purity in the company God is raising up rather than individuals.”“Devastation is a prelude to the priesthood.”“The motivation of walking with God changes when it’s no longer about us.”“God is creating a people for His own possession.”“Priesthood is not so much an individual thing as it is a spiritual state.”“We’re not living unto ourselves—we’re dying to ourselves to minister to the Lord.”“He’s the potter. We’re the clay.” Scriptural References Romans 12( 1)Present your bodies as a living sacrifice, your true worship1 Peter 2 (9)A chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nationRevelation 1 (5–6)Made a kingdom of priests unto GodExodus 19 (5–6)God’s desire for a kingdom of priestsPhilippians 1 (21)To live is Christ, to die is gainJohn 4 (23–24)The Father seeks true worshipersIsaiah 64 (80The Lord as potter; we as clayEphesians 4 (15–16)The body growing together in love Takeaway God is not primarily forming gifted individuals—He is forming a people. Through devastation, humility, and surrender, He is shaping a royal priesthood that lives not for itself, but to give God what He desires. When ambition dies and submission is embraced, a family emerges—standing before God day and night, ministering to Him as sons and priests.

    10 min

  4. FEB 14

    Interdependent By Design – Living As One Body In Christ

    *Listen to the Show notes and podcast transcript with this multi-language player. Summary Interdependent By Design: Living As One Body In Christ explores God’s intention that His people grow, mature, and function together—not as isolated individuals, but as a unified spiritual body. Through shared revelation, submission, and love, believers are formed into a living family where Christ ministers through each member to the whole. The discussion highlights how spiritual relationships are established by God Himself, refined through humility and service, and sustained by a revelation of Christ’s love for His body. True oneness is revealed not through preference or personality, but through obedience, forgiveness, and a willingness to open our hearts to one another in the Spirit. Show Notes Spiritual growth deepens in seasons that feel like “winter,” producing stronger rootsGod designed believers to live interdependently, not independentlyTrue oneness flows from a shared revelation of Jesus ChristRelationships within the body are formed and established by GodLoving one another begins with understanding how God loves His bodyServing one another is central to walking in Christ’s lifeWashing one another’s feet represents humility, openness, and spiritual ministryClosing our hearts to one another closes our hearts to the LordForgiveness and reconciliation are essential to spiritual fellowshipThe Spirit often ministers without words—presence carries lifeEvery believer is a spiritual being, carrying Christ to those around them Key Quotes “We’re never separated. We’re always together.”“It’s not an individual thing; it’s a collectiveness of the family, the body of Christ.”“Our oneness is based upon a common revelation of Jesus Christ.”“It’s the Lord Jesus Christ establishing relationships.”“We don’t have the right to close our heart and walk away.”“Sometimes all you have to do is just love one another.”“Serving is giving what we are and who we are to each other.”“The body cleanses itself—Christ in me, ministering to you.”“We are 24/7 spiritual beings.”“It’s not hard to be what we are—we’re sons of God.” Scriptural References 1 Corinthians 12– One body with many membersEphesians 4 (1–16)– Growing together into maturity through loveJohn 13 (1–17)– Jesus washing the disciples’ feetJohn 19 (26–27)– Jesus establishing relationship between John and MaryMatthew 18 (21–35)– Forgiveness as a foundation of relationship1 John 3 (16–18)– Loving not just in word, but in deed1 John 4 (7–21)– Loving one another as evidence of knowing GodColossians 3 (12–15)– Bearing with one another in love Takeaway God never designed believers to walk alone. Spiritual maturity is formed in relationship—through shared revelation, humility, forgiveness, and love. When we open our hearts to one another, Christ flows freely through His body, purifying, strengthening, and uniting us. True oneness is not manufactured by agreement or personality, but revealed as we submit to the Lord and to one another, allowing His love to live and move through us as one body.

    13 min

  5. FEB 10

    From One Voice to Many: God Is Raising an Anointed Family

    *Listen to the Show notes and podcast transcript with this multi-language player. Summary In From One Voice to Many: God Is Raising an Anointed Family, the family unpack a profound spiritual transition taking place in this present Age of the Spirit. God is moving His people out of leader-centric ministry models and into a many-membered, anointed family where Christ alone is the Head. This shift is not the result of human strategy or failed systems, but a sovereign work of God forming a unified body marked by oneness, shared anointing, and collective revelation. As old structures crumble, God is not repairing what is broken—He is birthing something entirely new. This new life emerges through dying to the old nature and discovering resurrection life together, not individually. The anointing increases as oneness increases, and revelation flows through a hungry, seeking people who are committed to walking together in total discipleship. God is raising up groups around the world who hunger and thirst for Him, learning to function as one body where every member carries life, purpose, and voice. Show Notes The era of ministry flowing through one dominant voice is endingGod is forming a many-membered, anointed familyThis move is initiated by God—not human innovationThe anointing is common to the whole body, not a select fewOneness produces greater revelation and greater anointingOld religious structures are being dismantled, not repairedGod is creating something entirely new by His SpiritSpiritual growth and transformation happen in community, not isolationEvery believer has a function and carries life for the bodyHunger, faith, and seeking God are the doorway into this realityThe body of Christ is designed for mutual impartation and supportWeakness is met with strength through shared life in the SpiritChrist alone is the Head—ministry flows from Him through His body Key Quotes “The ministry is going to come out of the family.”“This is not human maneuvering—God is creating this.”“It’s not a few anointed leaders and many unanointed followers.”“The anointing and the revelation grow as the oneness grows.”“God doesn’t want to fix what’s broken—He wants to create something new.”“You’re not going to do this independently.”“We are all ministries in the house of the Lord.”“You can’t walk this out alone—you need the body.”“The connection is in the Lord, not in background or structure.”“It will be a collective people speaking a living word.” Scriptural References 1 Corinthians12 (12–27)– One body, many members, each equally necessaryEphesians4 (15–16)– The body growing as each part supplies lifeRomans12 (4–5)– Many members, one body in ChristJohn12 (24)– Life coming forth through deathMatthew16 (24–25)– Losing life to find itJohn15 (5)– Life flowing from connection to ChristActs2 (42–47)– Corporate life, unity, and spiritual impartationHebrews10 (24–25)– Exhorting and strengthening one anotherMatthew7 (7–8)– Seeking, knocking, and hungering for God1 John2 (20, 27)– The anointing shared among believers Takeaway God is calling His people out of isolation and into living, Spirit-led community. This is not about joining an organization or restoring old systems—it is about surrendering to Christ together and allowing His life to flow through a unified body. Transformation, revelation, and anointing are released as believers walk in hunger, faith, and shared discipleship. The future is not one voice—it is many voices speaking one living word, with Christ as the Head and love as the bond.

    14 min

  6. FEB 6

    Speak Christ, Live Christ – The End OF Fixed Ministry Roles

    *Listen to the Show notes and podcast transcript with this multi-language player. Summary This conversation explores the end of fixed ministry roles and the emergence of a fluid, Spirit-led divine order centered entirely in the Lordship of Jesus Christ. Rather than assigning titles such as apostle, prophet, pastor, or teacher through human designation, the discussion emphasizes that Christ Himself manifests through His body as needed, moment by moment, by the Holy Spirit. Rigid structures often limit spiritual flow, while humility, flexibility, and recognition of Christ in one another allow true divine order to function. Jesus modeled the fullness of ministry, showing that ministry is not a position to hold but Christ to be lived. Show Notes Ministry roles are expressions of Christ, not static titlesDivine order is fluid and Spirit-ledThe Holy Spirit determines function and timingJesus embodied all expressions of ministryHumility and flexibility protect against prideRecognition of Christ replaces formal designationThe fivefold ministry becomes a shared realityFocus shifts from identity to union with ChristLove and intimacy with Christ release authentic ministrySpeak Christ, Live Christ becomes the posture of the body Key Quotes “Divine order is fluid. A human doesn’t designate it—the Holy Spirit does.”“Christ isn’t in pieces. He’s all in one.”“You do not have to have recognition to function in what God puts in your heart.”“When the emphasis on ministry disappears, Christ flows naturally.” “Speak Christ, live Christ—every day.” Scriptural References Ephesians 4:11–13– Gifts given for the building up of the body 1 Corinthians 12:4–7– Different functions, same Spirit 1 Corinthians 12:27–31– The body functioning together Colossians 1:27– Christ in you, the hope of glory John 10:11– Jesus as the Good Shepherd Matthew 11:28– Evangelistic invitation of Christ John 4:7–26– Jesus flowing prophetically with the woman at the well Genesis 1:26– Humanity created with full divine potential 2 Corinthians 3:17– Where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom Takeaway True divine order flows from Christ living and speaking through His people. When believers remain humble, flexible, and Spirit-led, ministry becomes a natural expression of love rather than a structured role. As we let go of fixed identities and embrace union with Christ, the body functions in freedom, maturity, and life. Speak Christ. Live Christ. Let Him flow.

    12 min

  7. FEB 2

    When Striving Ceases And Christ Remains

    *Listen to the Show notes and podcast transcript with this multi-language player. Summary When Striving Ceases and Christ Remains explores the paradox of spiritual rest—how God continues His deep, transforming work in us even as our own striving comes to an end. True rest is not the absence of God’s dealings but the assurance that what He began, He will complete. As self is crucified and Christ is formed within, believers learn to trust the process, rest in God’s faithfulness, and walk together as one body. This rest is rooted in trust, impartation, and living from Christ’s life rather than our own effort. Show Notes God’s rest does not cancel His work; it anchors us while He continues itThe assurance that God finishes what He begins brings deep inner restStriving harder does not satisfy the soul—rest in Christ doesSpiritual rest coexists with transformation, crucifixion, and inner dealingsDispleasure with self often signals God’s deeper work within usRest is not passivity; it is trust in God’s faithfulness and processTrue growth comes byimpartation, not information or knowledge aloneOur life is no longer our own—it is Christ living in usTrust is cultivated through the Word, which connects us to the FatherThe Body of Christ grows together; no one walks this path aloneGod has already brought us into rest—we are learning to live from itFocusing on who Christis, not who we are not, sustains spiritual rest Quotes “There’s a place of rest we can move into in the Lord Jesus that satisfies us right down to the root.”“Our energy ceases, but the travail of our heart does not.”“What He began in us, He is going to complete.”“The deeper God goes in our hearts, the more displeasure we have with ourselves—and that is His good pleasure.”“It’s not knowledge; it comes by impartation.”“When you begin to rest, you trust—and trust is the key.”“Don’t look at what you’re not. Look at what He is.” Scriptural References Philippians1:6–He who began a good work in you will complete itGalatians2:20–I have been crucified with Christ… Christ lives in meColossians3:3–Your life is hidden with Christ in GodRevelation6:2–Conquering and to conquerHebrews4:9–11–There remains a rest for the people of GodRomans8:10–Christ lives in youPhilippians4:8–Whatever things are pure… think on these things Takeaway True rest is not found by striving harder, knowing more, or doing more—it is found in trusting that Christ is faithfully completing His work within us. As our effort ceases, Christ remains. In that place of rest, transformation continues, life is imparted, and we learn to live not from ourselves, but from Him—together, as one body.

    12 min

  8. JAN 29

    Refined By Fire – God’s Work Of Purification In His Sons

    *Listen to the Show notes and podcast transcript with this multi-language player. Summary This episode reveals how God uses the fire of His Spirit to purify and perfect His sons. Through trials, sufferings, and divine fire, believers are transformed into His likeness. The conversation unfolds the purpose behind life’s fiery experiences—showing that they are not punishment, but God’s refining process. The speakers emphasize that holiness, sanctification, and spiritual maturity come only through the fire of God’s presence. As the chaff is burned away, what remains is purity, gold, and the image of Christ manifesting through His people. Show Notes The Purpose of Fire: Every suffering and trial is God’s design to complete His work in His sons.Chaff and the Old Nature: The “chaff” represents the Adamic nature being burned away through God’s refining fire.Submitting to the Process: Transformation is not achieved through human effort, but by surrender to the fire of God.God as a Consuming Fire: To walk with Him means to partake of His purifying nature (Hebrews 12:29).The Fire of Pentecost: The tongues of fire in Acts were the fulfillment of John’s prophecy—baptism with the Holy Spirit and fire.Rejoicing in the Fire: Trials are not strange occurrences but evidence of being chosen and sanctified.Faith Tested in the Furnace: Like the three Hebrew children, believers are not destroyed by the fire but transformed in it.Sanctification Through Fire: God uses the fire to purify His people, making them ready to dwell in His holy presence.Obedience and Judgment: Once obedience is complete, the purified sons of God will release His righteous judgment and cleansing on the earth.Transformation and Victory: Through the fire, believers move from victimhood to conquerors, walking in divine authority.End Result: The fire burns only the wood, hay, and stubble—leaving behind refined gold and silver that glorify God. Quotes “All of your sufferings, everything you are going through, is designed by the Lord to complete you.” – Ken“It’s the old nature, and all of that’s coming off.” – Lois“Our God is a consuming fire. If you’re going to walk with Him, you’re going to partake of it.” – Lois“Rejoice that the fire is burning in your life. It’s creating something in you that you can’t do by yourself.” – Ken“If you’re called and chosen, you’re going to go through the fires.” – Ken“God is consuming us with fire, but also anointing us with the Holy Spirit to speak His judgment and bring forth His Kingdom.” – Monnie“When God throws the matches in your life, it only burns the wood, hay, and stubble—it doesn’t touch the gold and silver.” – Lois“Finish up with us, Lord. Finish up Your fire in our lives.” – Dale Scriptural References Hebrews 12:29 – “For our God is a consuming fire.” Matthew 3:11 – “He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire.” 1 Peter 4:12–13 – “Beloved, do not think it strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you…” Psalm 34:19 – “Many are the afflictions of the righteous, but the Lord delivers him out of them all.” Daniel 3:25–27 – The three Hebrew children in the fiery furnace—preserved by the presence of God. Malachi 3:2–3 – “He is like a refiner’s fire and like fullers’ soap.” Romans 8:37 – “In all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us.” 2 Corinthians 3:18 – “We all, with unveiled face, beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image.” Takeaway The fire of God is not something to fear—it is the very means by which He completes His sons. Every trial, pressure, and purifying flame removes the old nature and reveals the divine nature within. As believers yield to the process, they are being made holy, refined like gold, and prepared to stand in the fullness of His presence. The fire that once burned to cleanse will soon burn through them to bring His Kingdom to earth.

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"Live Behind The Veil" is an atmosphere created by men and women of God speaking in the Holy Spirit the Father's Word. Spiritual and temporal topics are addressed openly and without respect to political correctness or religious restraint. The underlying question is always being asked; "Are you hungry and open for more of what God is pouring out?"

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    The Epistles
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