LUNCH TIME WITH DEMONS

Ashlee B. Caress

Welcome to Lunch Time With Demons — where the vibes are real, the tea is hot, and the demons might just be more reasonable than you think. Join demonologists and religious scholars A. Bella and Ryan as they dive into the beautifully bizarre world of the occult. With decades of combined experience in spirit work, theology, and ritual practice, they offer a grounded, modern take on demonolatry and the ancient grimoires that continue to shape our understanding of the infernal divine. Each episode serves up digestible dialogue on everything from our own spiritual practice, personal encounters, ghost stories, to cross-cultural religion, mythology, and dismantling toxic dogma; all while honoring the sacred. If you've ever wondered what demons really are, how to approach the infernal with reverence, or why your religious trauma still flinches at the word "Lucifer," this podcast is your permission slip to unlearn, explore, and reclaim. Whether you're a seasoned practitioner, a curious newcomer, or someone just here for the spicy theology and paranormal tea, grab your headphones. New episodes every week. Bring your own offerings.

  1. 6D AGO

    Accountability - Lunch Time with Demons

    Season Two (Ep6) This episode centers on accountability as a lived practice within spirituality, relationships, and the self. We explore how accountability evolves as personal work deepens, especially the shift from seeking external validation to cultivating internal validation. Bella shares a conversation with a student that illustrates this turning point: as self-trust grows, old reactive patterns like "punching down," needing to be right, or policing others naturally fall away. They discuss the often-misunderstood idea of "turning the other cheek," reframing it not as passive suffering, but as choosing to turn away from misaligned dynamics altogether. True accountability includes recognizing that you are not responsible for managing others' actions and that releasing people from your orbit can be profoundly self-honoring. The conversation then deepens into the complexities of over-giving, enablement, and self-neglect. Bella reflects on how giving without self-accountability leads to burnout, resentment, and distorted relationships, often masquerading as care or compassion. We emphasize that shielding others from hardship can rob them of necessary growth, drawing distinctions between empathy, sympathy, and lived experience. We address trauma bonding, codependency, and the painful realization that some relationships persist only when you remain on the back burner. Ultimately, the episode frames accountability as a dual commitment: showing up honestly for others while fiercely prioritizing what truly deserves the front line of your life and your well-being, your creativity, your family, and your self-respect.   Prattle – to talk for a long period of time about insignificant things Cover art created by Casey at BellTarot.com

    57 min
  2. JAN 31

    Practice - Lunch Time with Demons

    Season Two (Ep5) This episode of Lunchtime with Demons centers on the idea of practice as the living, embodied foundation of spiritual work, especially in a time of collective exhaustion and upheaval. We reflect on how January has felt overwhelming and use that backdrop to discuss why practice rather than just consuming information is essential for protecting the self as a vessel of body, mind, and spirit. Bella emphasizes that self-care and spiritual discipline are not indulgences but necessities for longevity, particularly when many people are exploring deeper bindings, archetypes, clair abilities, and personal deconstruction. We acknowledge knowledge alone is incomplete; without practice, it cannot be integrated or alchemized into lived wisdom without practice. Our conversation then turns to the deep personal nature of practice and the importance of self-awareness. We stress that there is no single "correct" way to practice some people thrive on strict structure, while others require fluidity and intuition. Through personal examples, they explore how honoring one's natural rhythms, limitations, and strengths allows practice to be sustainable rather than punishing. The episode encourages listeners to start where they are, let go of guilt when routines shift or fail, and recognize that every day is a new opportunity to choose again. Ultimately, practice is framed not as perfection or discipline for its own sake, but as an ongoing, adaptable relationship with oneself and the divine.   Ululation – a long loud emotional sound Cover art created by Casey at BellTarot.com

    48 min
  3. JAN 24

    Getting To Know you - Lunch Time with Demons

    Season Two (Ep4) This episode of Lunchtime with Demons takes a playful, intimate turn as A. Bella and Ryan invite listeners into a lighthearted game of 21 questions designed to help the audience get to know them on a more personal level. The format is simple but revealing: every question asked must be answered by both hosts, creating a sense of fairness, vulnerability, and shared exploration. Early questions move from daily rituals upon waking to reflections on identity, with A. Bella describing herself as deeply observant and hyper-aware in her current season of life, while Ryan speaks about being called into greater public visibility within his spiritual practice and the careful, deliberate way he responds to that call. As the conversation unfolds, the tone remains warm, humorous, and candid, blending the mundane with the mystical. The hosts discuss personal care rituals, scent, and self-made products as extensions of spiritual practice, revealing how devotion, creativity, and storytelling weave into their everyday lives. The episode gradually deepens into philosophical territory, touching on ideas of destiny, free will, and whether spiritual paths are chosen or remembered. Throughout, the exchange highlights the natural chemistry between A. Bella and Ryan, offering listeners a grounded, human glimpse into their lives while maintaining the show's signature blend of occult reflection, authenticity, and playful intimacy.   Fascism (noun)- a far-right, authoritarian, and ultranationalist political ideology characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, and the forcible suppression of opposition. It exalts nation and often race above individual rights, focusing on total state control, economic regimentation, and often, national rebirth following a perceived decline. Cover art created by Casey at BellTarot.com   Abella's Link Tree Ryan's Link Tree

    1h 2m
  4. JAN 17

    Transparency - Lunch Time with Demons

    Season Two (Ep3) This episode of Lunchtime with Demons centers on transparency as a core practice of authenticity, especially within occult and left-hand path work. We explore how pursuing self-knowledge inevitably brings us face-to-face with being perceived, managing masks, and confronting self-worth, social anxiety, and neurodivergence. Transparency is framed not as oversharing, but as alignment allowing the inside to match the outside as closely as possible. When people edit themselves out of fear of judgment, they create "static" between who they are and how they appear, which manifests as nervous system dysregulation, energetic friction, and strained relationships. In psychic or spiritually sensitive communities, this misalignment is often felt immediately, leading to distrust or discomfort even if no one can consciously articulate why. Our conversation emphasizes that transparency is fundamentally a relationship with the self: denying one's truth teaches the nervous system that the self is unsafe and untrustworthy. By practicing honesty, accountability, and timely communication such as addressing issues that linger longer than a day static dissipates, and relationships become clearer, more human, and more grounded. We stress that authenticity is not perfection, but a continual practice shaped by self-education, mental health awareness, and compassion for one's limitations. Choosing transparency ultimately creates peace, stronger boundaries, and deeper connections, while inviting others to engage with who you truly are or step away if they cannot.  Voracious: adj: having a very eager approach to an activity Cover art created by Casey at BellTarot.com A.Bella's Link Tree Ryan's Link Tree

    27 min
  5. JAN 10

    Philosophy of Practice - Lunch Time with Demons

    Season Two(Ep2) This episode explores the different philosophical approaches people take within spiritual, occult, and infernal practices, offering listeners a framework to better understand both themselves and others. Abella introduce four categories revivalist, revisionist, traditionalist, and non-traditional nonconformist and explain how each places authority differently, whether in ancient texts, lineage, critical analysis, or personal gnosis. Rather than presenting these categories as rigid boxes, the discussion emphasizes that they are fluid, overlapping, and useful primarily as language to describe perspectives, not to judge or rank them. Concepts like UPG (Unverified Personal Gnosis) and SPG (Shared Personal Gnosis) are clarified to reinforce that the podcast shares personal experience, not universal truth. Through candid dialogue and personal reflection, the hosts unpack the strengths and limitations of each philosophy, highlighting themes of sovereignty, freedom, and responsibility in practice. They share how their own paths evolved from seeking structure in traditionalism or revivalism to embracing revisionism and nonconformity illustrating how practices naturally change over time. The core message encourages listeners to release comparison and judgment, recognize where authority lies in their own work, and honor that different approaches can coexist without conflict. Ultimately, the episode affirms that there is no single "correct" way to practice only the way that aligns with one's values, experience, and sense of liberation. Omniscient – adj. knowing everything Cover art created by Casey at BellTarot.com Abell's Link Tree Ryan's Link Tree

    1h 7m
5
out of 5
13 Ratings

About

Welcome to Lunch Time With Demons — where the vibes are real, the tea is hot, and the demons might just be more reasonable than you think. Join demonologists and religious scholars A. Bella and Ryan as they dive into the beautifully bizarre world of the occult. With decades of combined experience in spirit work, theology, and ritual practice, they offer a grounded, modern take on demonolatry and the ancient grimoires that continue to shape our understanding of the infernal divine. Each episode serves up digestible dialogue on everything from our own spiritual practice, personal encounters, ghost stories, to cross-cultural religion, mythology, and dismantling toxic dogma; all while honoring the sacred. If you've ever wondered what demons really are, how to approach the infernal with reverence, or why your religious trauma still flinches at the word "Lucifer," this podcast is your permission slip to unlearn, explore, and reclaim. Whether you're a seasoned practitioner, a curious newcomer, or someone just here for the spicy theology and paranormal tea, grab your headphones. New episodes every week. Bring your own offerings.