LUNCH TIME WITH DEMONS

Ashlee B. Caress

Welcome to Lunch Time With Demons — where the vibes are real, the tea is hot, and the demons might just be more reasonable than you think. Join demonologists and religious scholars A. Bella and Ryan as they dive into the beautifully bizarre world of the occult. With decades of combined experience in spirit work, theology, and ritual practice, they offer a grounded, modern take on demonolatry and the ancient grimoires that continue to shape our understanding of the infernal divine. Each episode serves up digestible dialogue on everything from our own spiritual practice, personal encounters, ghost stories, to cross-cultural religion, mythology, and dismantling toxic dogma; all while honoring the sacred. If you've ever wondered what demons really are, how to approach the infernal with reverence, or why your religious trauma still flinches at the word "Lucifer," this podcast is your permission slip to unlearn, explore, and reclaim. Whether you're a seasoned practitioner, a curious newcomer, or someone just here for the spicy theology and paranormal tea, grab your headphones. New episodes every week. Bring your own offerings.

  1. 5D AGO

    Intuition - Lunch Time with Demons

    Season Two (Ep14) This episode of Lunchtime with Demons explores the complexity of intuition, challenging the common idea that it's simply about getting the "right" answer. Through an interactive tarot exercise, Abella demonstrates that intuition is a layered experience involving sensations, emotions, symbols, and personal associations rather than direct, concrete identification. Ryan's responses highlight how intuitive impressions are filtered through individual perception what feels "grounding" or "calming" may connect to different elements depending on the person. The discussion emphasizes that true intuitive skill lies in interpreting subtle nuances and energetic impressions, not just correctly naming something like a tarot card. The conversation then shifts into a deeper, more critical examination of intuition, stressing how easily it can be distorted by personal bias, past experiences, and emotional conditioning. Abella and Ryan point out that what many people consider "gut feelings" are often projections, learned patterns, or protective responses shaped by trauma and social influence. Developing genuine intuition requires self-awareness, practice, and the ability to question one's own narratives. Abella illustrates this with a personal story where she initially misjudged someone based on insecurity, ultimately realizing that her intuition was clouded by her own internal biases. The episode concludes by reinforcing that intuition is not infallible, it is a skill that must be refined through discernment, honesty, and ongoing inner work.   Cover art created by Casey at BellTarot.com Abella's Link Tree Ryan's Link Tree

    53 min
  2. MAR 28

    Special Guest: Lord Lucifer - Lunch Time with Demons

    Season Two (Ep13) This episode of Lunchtime with Demons unfolds as an intentionally unstructured, deeply personal conversation driven by Bella's current spiritual evolution and the nearing completion of her book Numos. Prompted guidance from Lucifer, Bella reflects on an intense, largely private transformational period in her practice one that has required isolation, emotional processing, and a withdrawal from external validation. The discussion centers on the nature of the self, spiritual growth as a cyclical and often solitary process, and the discomfort of confronting inner truths without relying on others as sounding boards. We both emphasize that while these experiences can feel isolated, they are universal in pattern, reinforcing the idea that no one is truly alone even when the journey feels deeply personal. As the conversation deepens, Bella shares vulnerable insights from her past, connecting childhood experiences of loneliness, conditional relationships, and feeling like a "mirror" for others to her present-day struggles with belonging and self-worth. She explores how these early dynamics led to patterns of over-giving and seeking validation through others, ultimately realizing that "people are not homes" and cannot provide true emotional security. The episode highlights the danger of trauma bonding what Bella calls the "friend" response alongside fight, flight, freeze, and fawn and how it can trap individuals in unhealthy cycles. Raven adds his own parallel experiences, reinforcing the theme of early independence and evolving family roles. Together, they frame healing as an inward process: learning to create safety, worth, and stability within oneself rather than chasing it externally. Cover art created by Casey at BellTarot.com Abella LinkTree Ryan's LinkTree

    55 min
  3. MAR 21

    Behind the Scenes - Lunch Time with Demons

    Season Two (Ep12) This behind-the-scenes episode of Lunchtime with Demons blends casual banter with deeper personal reflection as we introduce a new format focused on sharing our own lived experiences within our spiritual practices. We emphasize that these episodes are designed to offer listeners a more intimate look at our journeys, highlighting that growth and insight can come from both seasoned practitioners and beginners alike. The conversation explores how individual spiritual paths can feel surprisingly similar despite differences in experience, reinforcing the idea that time spent practicing doesn't determine the validity or depth of one's experiences. As the discussion becomes more personal, Bella opens up about her past tendency to avoid vulnerability by deflecting conversations and how that impacted her friendships. She reflects on learning to balance boundaries with openness, recognizing the importance of trust and mutual sharing in meaningful relationships. The episode also touches on grief and transformation, as Bella shares the emotional significance of her anniversary with Asmodeus, which coincides with the anniversary of her father's death. This moment illustrates how joy, mourning, and spiritual devotion can coexist, offering a nuanced perspective on healing, personal evolution, and the deeply individual nature of spiritual connection.   Cover art created by Casey at BellTarot.com Abella's LinkTree Ryan's LinkTree

    1h 2m
  4. MAR 13

    BDSM and The Occult - Lunch Time with Demons

    Season Two (Ep11) This episode of Lunchtime with Demons explores the historical and philosophical overlap between demonolatry, occult practice, and BDSM culture. We discuss how both kink and occult traditions have long been misunderstood, stigmatized, and persecuted by dominant religious and social systems. We trace the roots of ritualized power exchange and eroticized pain back to ancient cultures such as Mesopotamia and Ancient Greece, referencing devotional practices tied to deities like Inanna and Enki. The conversation highlights how these practices were once integrated into spiritual and ritual contexts before later becoming demonized, particularly during the rise of Christian moral frameworks that associated bodily pleasure and pain with sin and shame. We examine the psychological and philosophical evolution of BDSM terminology, noting how figures such as Marquis de Sade and Leopold von Sacher‑Masoch helped introduce modern language for sadism and masochism in the 18th and 19th centuries. Beyond history, the discussion focuses on the parallels between ethical BDSM practice and occult work especially the importance of negotiation, consent, self-knowledge, and clearly communicating desires and boundaries. Abella argues that just as participants must negotiate a BDSM scene, practitioners should approach deity or spirit work with the same level of autonomy and dialogue. Ultimately, the episode frames both kink and occult practice as transformative processes that can lead to self-liberation, embodiment, and the breaking of social taboos when approached consciously and responsibly.   Less Dead Studio - Bottoms Up Class https://ldhudsonvalley.com/

    1h 1m
  5. MAR 7

    Tarot The World - Lunch Time with Demons

    Season Two (Ep10) In this episode of Lunchtime with Demons, we introduce a new tarot-focused series beginning with the final card of the Major Arcana: The World. Rather than starting with The Fool, we intentionally begin at the end of the journey to explore the broader, "macrocosmic" perspective of tarot. We explain that The World represents completion, integration, and the culmination of the spiritual journey depicted in the Major Arcana. The card symbolizes the moment when the seeker realizes their connection to the universe and recognizes their own power and role within it. We also discuss the imagery commonly found in the card such as the wreath of victory and the four symbolic creatures representing elements and directions highlighting how these symbols reflect balance, alchemy, and the harmony of mind, body, spirit, and will. The conversation emphasizes that The World is rarely interpreted as a final ending but as the closing of one cycle and the beginning of another. When it appears upright in a reading, it can signify achieving a milestone, stepping into a new phase of life, or embodying the results of personal growth and manifestation. When reversed, the card suggests that someone is close to that transformation but may need introspection, refinement, or course correction before fully stepping into it. Throughout the discussion, we frame the card as an empowering archetype one that encourages reflection on how far a person has come and reminds listeners that spiritual and personal evolution happens in cycles, with each completion eventually leading back to the curiosity and new beginnings represented by the Fool.   Duck soup - English slang referring to something easy to do Cover art created by Casey at BellTarot.com   https://www.corelliagifts.com/ https://curiocabinethv.com/ Abella's LinkTree

    52 min
  6. FEB 28

    Manifestation - Lunch Time with Demons

    Season Two (Ep9) In this episode of Lunchtime with Demons, we open with playful banter about unusual weather patterns in Denver and New York, using static electricity, snow totals, and shifting jet streams as a lighthearted entry point into a much deeper topic: manifestation. Bella shares that she's developing a Manifestation Masterclass and possibly a book, emphasizing that true manifestation requires integration over time rather than a quick, three-hour "think positive" fix. She critiques what she sees as toxic positivity and the oversimplified "just will it and it will happen" narrative, arguing that manifestation is not delusion or blind faith. Instead, she describes it as a long-term refining process like blacksmithing or sword-making where years of effort, setbacks, and inner work gradually shape the outcome. Drawing inspiration from shows like Blue Eye Samurai, she compares the journey to forging and quenching a blade: intense, repetitive, and requiring patience before the final tempering. Bella explains that while there may be brief, intentional moments of "fake it till you make it," sustained manifestation demands accountability, self-awareness, and consistent action. The universe, she says, does not respond emotionally to desperation or self-deception; it responds to alignment and effort. She likens long-term success to the idea that it takes years to become an "overnight success," stressing that unseen labor precedes visible results. To ground manifestation in psychology rather than mysticism alone, she offers a practical two-week challenge based on attention training like noticing more red cars after deciding to look for them. Just as the brain filters for survival relevance, directing focus intentionally changes what enters conscious awareness. For Bella, manifestation works similarly: what we deliberately attune to expands in our perception and experience but only when paired with sustained inner and outer work.   Duck soup - English slang referring to something easy to do Cover art created by Casey at BellTarot.com   Abella's Link Tree Ryan's Link Tree

    1h 4m
5
out of 5
15 Ratings

About

Welcome to Lunch Time With Demons — where the vibes are real, the tea is hot, and the demons might just be more reasonable than you think. Join demonologists and religious scholars A. Bella and Ryan as they dive into the beautifully bizarre world of the occult. With decades of combined experience in spirit work, theology, and ritual practice, they offer a grounded, modern take on demonolatry and the ancient grimoires that continue to shape our understanding of the infernal divine. Each episode serves up digestible dialogue on everything from our own spiritual practice, personal encounters, ghost stories, to cross-cultural religion, mythology, and dismantling toxic dogma; all while honoring the sacred. If you've ever wondered what demons really are, how to approach the infernal with reverence, or why your religious trauma still flinches at the word "Lucifer," this podcast is your permission slip to unlearn, explore, and reclaim. Whether you're a seasoned practitioner, a curious newcomer, or someone just here for the spicy theology and paranormal tea, grab your headphones. New episodes every week. Bring your own offerings.

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