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Make It Plain is the podcast where Phillip Holmes and Taelor Gray offer Christian reflections on the words and life of Malcolm X.

Make It Plain Phillip Holmes & Taelor Gray

    • Religion & Spirituality
    • 5.0 • 136 Ratings

Make It Plain is the podcast where Phillip Holmes and Taelor Gray offer Christian reflections on the words and life of Malcolm X.

    Malcolm & Good Intentions

    Malcolm & Good Intentions

    In this episode, we delve into the complex nature of racism and how it operates under the surface through condescension, bias, and power imbalances. We examine the importance of humility, empathy, and genuine understanding in addressing the root causes of injustice and overcoming the divisions that have plagued our society for far too long. Along the way, we draw on the wisdom of Jesus, the power of the Gospel to change, and the timeless principle of the Golden Rule, exploring how we can put these teachings into practice.

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    • 35 min
    Malcolm & Black Brotherhood

    Malcolm & Black Brotherhood

    In this final ep of season 2, Phil and Taelor discuss the Malcolm quote:
    "We Black men have a hard enough time in our own struggle for justice—and already have enough enemies as it is—to make a drastic mistake of attacking each other and adding more weight to an already unbearable load."

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    • 40 min
    Malcolm & Victimhood

    Malcolm & Victimhood

    In this week’s episode of Make it Plain, Phillip Holmes and Taelor Gray discuss this quote from Malcolm X:
    "I see America through the eyes of the victim. I don't see an American dream. I see an American nightmare.”

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    • 33 min
    Malcolm & The Black Vote

    Malcolm & The Black Vote

    In this episode of Make it Plain, Phillip Holmes and Taelor Gray discuss a quote in which Malcolm X offers a vision of what minority voters are capable of accomplishing.

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    • 42 min
    Malcolm & Tokenism

    Malcolm & Tokenism

    In this week’s episode of Make it Plain, Phillip Holmes and Taelor Gray explore the following Malcolm X quote:
    "Then in the second semester of the second grade, I was elected class president. It surprised me even more than other people. But I can see now why the class might have done it. My grades were among the highest in the school. I was unique in my class, like a pink poodle. And I was proud. I'm not going to say I wasn't. In fact, by then, I didn't really have much feeling about being a Negro. Because I was trying so hard, in every way I could, to be white. Which is why I am spending much of my life today telling the American black man that he's wasting his time straining to integrate. I know from personal experience. I tried hard enough.”

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    • 37 min
    Malcolm & The North vs South

    Malcolm & The North vs South

    In this episode of Make it Plain, Phillip Holmes and Taelor Gray examine the differences and commonalities in the experiences of African Americans in the North versus those in the South.

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    • 38 min

Customer Reviews

5.0 out of 5
136 Ratings

136 Ratings

Luke Bru's ,

X is a legend

Growing up white, from the south, and evangelical I never heard much about Malcom. What little I did vilified and obscured any sense of the historical or real Malcom. The two seasons of this podcast with Mr. Gray and Mr. Holmes and additionally listening to X's autobiography have changed that. You are doing yourself a service to listen to these brothers. Make space to hear from their lives and the wisdom they bring to discussing Malcom's life and his all too prescient comments on our times and society. You will be challenged, you will laugh, and you may cry at hearing the depth of human injustice our fellow countrymen have endured. But there is hope, the most profoundly good thing I can say about this podcast is it is deeply Christian. The sort that is good, true, and beautiful. And can walk into the hardest of subjects and bring hope as the light of Christ is shone there.

RaeRachael22 ,

Excellent

I appreciate the content of this podcast and how it interweaves history with contemporary cultural analysis. I also love the podcasters voices, it makes it easy to listen to.

Stefanieleann99 ,

Informative + great tone

Thank you so much for opening this conversation in the Christian community. A lot of people are wary about Malcolm because of the way he has been presented, but I really appreciate the way the hosts take his evaluations and focus them toward the church, there is still so much to learn. Their tone also does not seem to be one of arrogance or pride to me, but one of sincerely wanting to help the church grow toward Christ. This has been so informative to me as a social work major, and something that will influence my work going forward!

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