Make or Break

Mo Berkner Boyt

Data, measurement, and experience for the intersection of disruption and people.

Episodios

  1. The Future of Work: AI, Data, and Human-Centric Change

    25 jun

    The Future of Work: AI, Data, and Human-Centric Change

    In this episode of Make or Break, Mo Berkner Boyt is joined by Dr. Alexis Fink for an insightful conversation about organizational transformation, AI activation, and the critical role of systems thinking in navigating disruptive change. Together, they unpack what it really takes to lead through transformation in a way that is practical, human-centered, and sustainable. Dr. Fink shares how leaders can move beyond surface-level change efforts and instead create the conditions for real adoption by aligning data, strategy, and people across the organization. They explore: why systems thinking matters during periods of disruption how to use data more effectively to guide decisions why involving people at every level is essential for transformation to stick how to activate AI in ways that create measurable value From understanding the dynamics of change to making AI adoption more meaningful, this episode offers a clear framework for approaching transformation more strategically. If you’re leading through uncertainty, modernizing your organization, or looking for practical ways to make change work in the real world, this conversation will give you a sharper lens on what drives lasting impact. Follow Make or Break on your favorite streaming channel to effectively manage human risk during organizational change: https://c2iq.io/spotify https://c2iq.io/apple https://c2iq.io/audible https://www.youtube.com/@C2IQMakeorBreak – Follow + Connect with our guest: Dr. Alexis Fink  LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexisfink/  Website - https://www.propellerinsight.org/ Substack - https://alexisfink.substack.com/

    33 min
  2. 18 feb

    Why Human Connection Matters

    In this episode of Make or Break, Mo Berkner Boyt is joined by Matt Poepsel, PhD, the “Godfather of Talent Optimization”, for a thoughtful conversation on why human connection has become the scarcest resource in today’s world of work. Together, they explore how modern convenience, rapid technological change, and rising pressure are quietly pulling people apart and what leaders can do to intentionally rebuild connection during disruption. From loneliness and burnout to AI-driven change and people metrics that actually matter, this episode offers a deeply human lens on leading change without losing the people along the way.The conversation also dives into how leaders measure employee engagement and why measuring it well during periods of disruption is critical. Rather than relying on outdated surveys, Matt shares insights on how to measure employee engagement metrics in ways that move as fast as change itself and provide meaningful signals about trust, resilience, and alignment.What to Expect in This Episode- Why human connection is breaking down at work- How technology and convenience quietly erode trust and belonging- The “entropy economy” and the growing cost of disconnection- Why engagement data must move faster during periods of change- How misattribution creates gaps between leaders and teams- What effective change management leadership looks like Follow Make or Break on your favorite streaming channel to effectively manage human risk during organizational change:https://c2iq.io/spotifyhttps://c2iq.io/applehttps://c2iq.io/audible–Follow + Connect with our guest:Matt Poepsel, PhDLinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattpoepsel/Website - https://www.mattpoepsel.com/Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/@mattpoepsel

    32 min

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Data, measurement, and experience for the intersection of disruption and people.