Making Creativity Pay

Dan Barnett

Welcome to ‘Making Creativity Pay’, this isn’t a podcast about making millions, more about speaking to people in creative industries whether that’s music, literature, art or anything that relies on creativity about how that ties in with making a living from it. The aim is not about selling out any creative endeavour but to ensure that there is at least some way to pay the bills and keep the lights on, money can be seen to be a vulgar part of the process but getting fairly paid for the time, effort and expertise you put in to something shouldn't be a bad thing.

  1. Rosalie Minnitt - Lady Clementine

    13 DE ABR.

    Rosalie Minnitt - Lady Clementine

    “I was invited to go to this theatre in Wolverhampton and I'm always a little bit nervous about going to places where I'm not entirely sure how the show is going to land…and it ended up just being such a fun show and the audience was so giving and so generous.  That kind of restored my faith in humanity a little bit because these people who had probably just seen it in a brochure had just taken a chance on it.  And I think sometimes you get into this bubble that it's, either you do it in Edinburgh or London and then regional touring is a waste of time but I have such a different view on it.”  Latest episode is with Comedian Rosalie Minnitt We talk about her character creation Clementine and Clementine’s Valentine’s Day show on Radio 4 as well as the differences between playing Clementine on stage and on Radio. We also discuss Rosalie’s experience of the Edinburgh Fringe as well as the challenges and joys of taking Clementine on tour at theatres across the country. Website: https://rosalieminnitt.com/  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/rosalieminnitt/  Live Shows: https://linktr.ee/rosalieminnitt  Clementine Valentine’s Day Special on Radio 4: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m002rdb9  Find More about ‘Making Creativity Pay’ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/makingcreativitypay/  Making Creativity Pay Newsletter: https://makingcreativitypay.substack.com/  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danjbarnett/

    33 min
  2. Girl Gone Wild - Courtney Kocak

    29 DE MAR.

    Girl Gone Wild - Courtney Kocak

    "It's a small town girls misadventures in Hollywood. And it is both poignant and funny. I think of the essays as like crepes. They're kind of like individually snackable, but collectively filling. What I love about the essay format is it's kind of propulsive and you move through it with the momentum that I really appreciate as a reader. And so I wanted to write the book that way." - Author and Podcaster Courtney Kocak, we talk about her upcoming book Girl Gone Wild, a memoir based on a series of essays covering “Tales of ambition, delusion, drugs, sex, and misogyny... including selling T-shirts on the Girls Gone Wild bus” As well as the book we also talk about Courtney’s varied career, from performing as a stand-up, writing for an animated comedy show as well as her extensive career in podcasting including her show Private Parts Unknown which has had over 2 million downloads and her newsletter Podcast Bestie which is full of ways to make the most of your podcast. Website:  https://www.courtneykocak.com/  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/courtneykocak/  Girl Gone Wild:  US: https://bookshop.org/p/books/girl-gone-wild-courtney-kocak/  UK: https://uk.bookshop.org/p/books/girl-gone-wild-courtney-kocak/18ae2cd0ad59de93  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@PrivatePartsUnknown  Private Parts Unknown Podcast: https://pod.link/1154304419  The Bleeders Podcast: https://pod.link/1628014529  Podcast Bestie Substack: https://podcastbestie.substack.com/welcome  Find More about ‘Making Creativity Pay’ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/makingcreativitypay/  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danjbarnett/  Making Creativity Pay Newsletter: https://makingcreativitypay.substack.com/

    45 min
  3. Vertical Drama Love - Jen Cooper

    22 DE FEV.

    Vertical Drama Love - Jen Cooper

    “ Everyone wants to get involved and it's generating huge amount of work for actors and crew all around the world, which is very hard to find in other parts of the media. So Hollywood is now involved as well, and every major Hollywood studio you can think of is looking or experimenting with this format and sort of seeing how they can bring the Hollywood touch to it.” Latest guest is Jen Cooper, founder of Vertical Drama Love. Jen is an expert in the rapidly growing area of vertical dramas, we talk about what vertical dramas are and the rapid rise in popularity of vertical dramas in the west and the change in the format from its beginnings in China. We talk about what moving from niche to mainstream in the west may mean for the format, how large players like Disney starting to offer vertical content may change things and also the impact for Jen as someone who has been involved in the sector initially as a fan and now as a consultant.    Website: https://www.verticaldramalove.com/   Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/verticaldramalove/  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@verticaldramalove  Guardian Vertical Drama Article: https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2026/feb/18/vertical-drama-phone-films-to-watch  Find More about ‘Making Creativity Pay’ Twitter: https://twitter.com/Beyond_the_Pod  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/makingcreativitypay/  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danjbarnett/  Making Creativity Pay Newsletter: https://makingcreativitypay.substack.com/

    39 min

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Welcome to ‘Making Creativity Pay’, this isn’t a podcast about making millions, more about speaking to people in creative industries whether that’s music, literature, art or anything that relies on creativity about how that ties in with making a living from it. The aim is not about selling out any creative endeavour but to ensure that there is at least some way to pay the bills and keep the lights on, money can be seen to be a vulgar part of the process but getting fairly paid for the time, effort and expertise you put in to something shouldn't be a bad thing.