Making MarTech

Himnish Jindal

"Making MarTech" spotlights innovative MarTech companies and leaders who are driving growth in the space, focusing on showcasing unique insights and perspectives that enable you to stay ahead of industry trends and discover strategies that are going to drive success for your business.

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    What Most Founders Get Wrong About SEO and How to Fix It (ft. Pat Ahern)

    What if your biggest growth lever isn’t paid ads… but a long-term asset compounding quietly in the background?In this episode, Himnish Jindal sits down with Pat Ahern, Managing Partner at Intergrowth, to break down the real mechanics behind sustainable digital growth. Pat shares the inside story of building Intergrowth around the freelance economy, demystifies the true ROI of SEO, and explains why attribution is harder than ever in today’s fragmented marketing landscape.You’ll hear how Pat approaches SEO not as a tactic, but as an operating system for long-term acquisition, and how AI is reshaping everything from content ideation to execution. He also opens up about the misconceptions he sees every day, the client wins that validated Intergrowth’s model, and why businesses chasing shortcuts always end up paying more in the long run.We dive into:• Why SEO actually works… and why most companies don’t stick with it long enough• The biggest misconceptions around SEO (and how to avoid getting burned)• How the freelance economy became Intergrowth’s competitive advantage (and how you can make it yours too)• The increasingly messy reality of marketing attribution• The right way to integrate AI into your marketing workflows• What separates sustainable content strategies from vanity output• Why “starting small and iterating” beats chasing perfect plans every timeIf you’re a founder, CEO, or marketer, this conversation gives you a deep dive at what it really takes to grow a business through search, content, and smart AI adoption. Check out Intergrowth here: https://intergrowth.com/

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    DXPs, Data, and the Death of Guesswork in Marketing Strategy (ft. Steve Herz)

    What if the key to scaling your digital marketing agency wasn’t doing more… but doing things differently? In this episode of Making MarTech, Himnish Jindal sits down with Steve Herz, CEO of Moonstone Interactive, to unpack the strategies behind real digital growth and the misconceptions holding most companies back. Steve reveals how Moonstone has carved out a powerful niche by offering enterprise-level solutions to mid-market businesses. From optimizing conversion rates through digital experience platforms to integrating AI in content personalization, this conversation is packed with insights for marketers, agency owners, and growth-focused leaders alike. We get into: Why client education is the secret weapon for agency success How to build content strategies that attract the right audience, not just traffic The growing importance of AI in personalization, market research, and delivery Why future-proofing your MarTech stack means embracing change, not chasing trends How Moonstone balances business strategy with creative execution to deliver impact Steve also shares key lessons from client wins, the challenges of scaling smart, and what agencies get wrong about “value.” If you're serious about building a modern marketing engine that delivers results, this episode is a must. Check out Moonstone Interactive for yourself here: https://www.msinteractive.com/

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"Making MarTech" spotlights innovative MarTech companies and leaders who are driving growth in the space, focusing on showcasing unique insights and perspectives that enable you to stay ahead of industry trends and discover strategies that are going to drive success for your business.