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a kim stanley robinson read-along podcast with regular forays into utopia. hosted by some friends who are into communism, science fiction and other stuff

Marooned! on Mars with Matt and Hilary Matt Hauske & Hilary Strang

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    • 5.0 • 60 Ratings

a kim stanley robinson read-along podcast with regular forays into utopia. hosted by some friends who are into communism, science fiction and other stuff

    Marooned at the Movies! Escapes From New York and L.A.

    Marooned at the Movies! Escapes From New York and L.A.

    Matt and Hilary are joined by their boon companion Bill Hutchison to discuss John Carpenter's (identical) films ESCAPE FROM NEW YORK (1981) and ESCAPE FROM L.A. (1996).

    The gang talks about the concept of the prison-island-city film and 1980s science fictions of popular cinema. We get into the western qualities of the films, discuss the logics of settler colonialism and the myth of the law, and we make some breakthroughs on the big question these films pose: What makes Snake tick? At the end we share our picks for where we'd set a third ESCAPE FROM movie.

    Our movie episodes are very indulgent, and we're going to keep doing them occasionally! For those non-movie-lovers out there, we'll be back in a few weeks with our regularly scheduled programming, discussing KSR's 2012 novel, 2312! Until then, thanks for listening!

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    • 1 hr 42 min
    Shaman 8: "Shaman," Art-Making, Transmitting Knowledge, Portrait of the Shaman as a Young Man

    Shaman 8: "Shaman," Art-Making, Transmitting Knowledge, Portrait of the Shaman as a Young Man

    Based on Matt’s joke opening, your friendly hosts talk about JFK and JFK for the first ten minutes, so you can probably skip that to get to the good stuff, our discussion of the last chapter of Shaman, “Shaman”!

    Topics include social connection, the modern divisions between work and leisure, public and private, and art as a rarified form that takes place in a specific place and time. How does art figure in Loon's world? As Loon becomes the shaman, what do his paintings mean for him and his people? We talk about the concept of genius and the role of the shaman as a medium of knowledge, as well as the nature of mediation in contemporary technological society.

    We talk a lot about art, cultural transformation, newness, and memory, as well as the relationship between intimacy and knowledge (and ignorance).

    If you're listening to this, congratulations! You're a shaman now!

    Before starting another Kim Stanley Robinson book we're going to do a couple episodes on movies, including John Carpenter's Escape From L.A. (or New York...or both?). If you have a suggestion for a movie you'd like to hear us gab about, you can contact us via the links below. We're still undecided on the next KSR novel on our list, so if you'd like to weigh in on that, please feel free! We'll get to them all eventually...

    Thanks for listening! Again!

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    Shaman 7: "All the Worlds Meet," Anthropology, Home, Teaching, and the Bird's Eye View

    Shaman 7: "All the Worlds Meet," Anthropology, Home, Teaching, and the Bird's Eye View

    In this episode we discuss "All the Worlds Meet," in which Loon recuperates after his ordeal, Click haunts Thorn, Thorn dies, Loon builds a new pair of snowshoes, and the Wolf Pack begins to break up.

    We talk about teaching and the formation and passing on of knowledge in the context of Thorn and Heather's different teaching styles. There appears to be no such thing as intellectual property in this society--what a concept!

    At the eight eight, we see various people make bird's eye views of the land. Hilary talks about the loving relationship to place that would motivate you to make models of it, and the childlike fun of destroying them.

    We discuss the status of "home" in KSR's science fiction and the place of mourning and melancholy in building a new world.

    Matt says "plethora" twice and we conclude with kitty round-up!

    Thanks for listening!

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    • 1 hr 18 min
    Shaman 6: "Hunted," Butt-Eating, Hermeneutics, and Barack Obama's Almonds

    Shaman 6: "Hunted," Butt-Eating, Hermeneutics, and Barack Obama's Almonds

    The sixth chapter of Shaman by Kim Stanley Robinson, "Hunted," has Thorn, Click, Loon, and Elga fleeing from the northern jende people. It is an absolutely harrowing chapter in which several major taboos are violated--murder, cannibalism, and burial. Matt and Hilary talk about reading and interpreting signs, the state's monopoly on knowledge, and not romanticizing the primitive.

    Did Thorn kill Click? Spoiler alert: yes, obviously, c'mon.

    We were honored to be asked by the Seminar Co-op Bookstores to share our recommendations for an Earth Week Reading List. You can find our picks at this link, and you can also buy books for pickup or delivery (either USPS or, if you're local to Chicago, they'll bring your order to your door).

    Thanks for listening!

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    • 1 hr 21 min
    Shaman 5: "Under the Ice," Metabolics, Captivity, and Thermal Abundance

    Shaman 5: "Under the Ice," Metabolics, Captivity, and Thermal Abundance

    In this episode we discuss "Under the Ice," where Elga is kidnapped, Loon goes to rescue her, he gets captured, and Thorn and Click rescue them. A lot to discuss!

    Here we're introduced to the northers, or the jende as they call themselves, a northern pack that, contrary to what we might expect, live in relative luxury compared to the Wolf Pack. Though they spend 10 months of the year in winter, they subsist on fish and seals, which are plentiful. As a result they are, as Loon sees it, "rich." They have bags of fat that they use as fuel and food, a very calorie-rich society. In addition, they have domesticated wolves and rely on the labor of captive slaves. It's unclear which came first in this chicken-or-egg scenario, and we talk about that.

    We also have our most extended (so far) exposure to Click, who, as listener Michael suggests, might be the closest KSR comes to writing about aliens. Click is a Neanderthal with radically different capabilities than Thorn and Loon.

    It's a thrilling, dudes-rock chapter in this 50% woman podcast!

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    • 1 hr 23 min
    Shaman 3 & 4: "Elga," "The Hunger Spring," Art-Making and -Experiencing, Neanderthals, and Poor Richard's Podcast

    Shaman 3 & 4: "Elga," "The Hunger Spring," Art-Making and -Experiencing, Neanderthals, and Poor Richard's Podcast

    Happy (belated) birthday, Kim Stanley Robinson! Is he the author of this podcast? Hilary says, in some ways, yes. Matt says, most certainly, no! You be the judge! Anyway, it's weird to have a podcast that people listen to and seem to enjoy...

    This episode we talk a lot about art, making art, the experience of art, and the work (pun intended) of art. Language and communication seems to be a key theme in our discussion as well--between people, between humans and non-human persons (wolverine, Heather, and Click), and between homo sapiens and other non-homo sapiens humans (Heather and Click). We talk more about the dialectic between novelty and sameness, social organization and the place of the individual within the group in Shaman, and the patterns and diversity of experience available to pre-historic people.

    These chapters depict the eight eight festival, Loon's meeting Elga, and a long winter in which one member of the Wolf pack dies. At the eight eight festival, the shamans have their corroboree, and we see that not only do these people have a very accurate calendar, they also, according to the song sung by Pippi, have a sense that the world is probably round, and very big. But the key thing is Thorn and Loon's journey into the cave to bid farewell to the year and to get immersed in painting and art. In what may be KSR's most extended depiction of the process of art-making, we get a discussion of representation and abstraction, naturalism and realism, and the ability humans have to communicate with each other across eons and to alarm themselves with what they make.

    Along the way we also mention John Lanchester's review of Kindred, the book on Neanderthals by Rebecca Wragg Sykes, for the London Review of Books, and Matt reads a passage from James C. Scott's Against the Grain about the possible mass deskilling of early humans with the late Neolithic revolution. We also thank Shred Magazine and Sean Estelle @chitrans_plant and Daniel Aldana Cohen @aldatweets for a wonderful conversation last week about KSR's oeuvre. The full recorded conversation can be found on YouTube here.

    Thanks for listening!

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    • 1 hr 26 min

Customer Reviews

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60 Ratings

60 Ratings

Tolge412 ,

Good Vibes Central

The hosts do KSR’s work justice by approaching it with the depth it deserves while still generally keeping things light.

The Years of Rice and Salt is one of the books that got me into Alternate History (and Islamic studies), I am EAGERLY anticipating their coverage. That book has a lot of counterfactual rabbit holes to go down and the author constantly find clever ways to import real life references and history into his alt universe, I hope the hosts do their research so they can recognize and dig into all of them.

The show is generally more of a vibe and theme analysis, a lot of which went over my teenage head when I first read Rice and Salt, so I’ll be starting a reread and looking forward to the hosts’ takes.

DC_doppelganger ,

Great podcast

“Stay safe, stay healthy, call your mother or your friend”....and read some Kim Stanley Robinson, of course. Glad to have these books and this podcast to fall back on when times are weird. This podcast remains full of insightful thoughts and philosophical meanders into the human condition - all within the structure of one of today’s best science fiction writers, who continually reminds us of the interconnectedness of humanity regardless of the conditions.

Thanks!

Drew_Walker ,

Thought-provoking to the max!

With humor, heart, deep understanding, and immense insight, this podcast is a mind-blowing experience that elevates these novels to even more cosmic heights. It’s thought-provoking to the max! If you are at all a fan of Robinson’s work, I can’t recommend this podcast enough. It’s literally never boring and that is a serious feat for how many hours they’ve recorded. Thank you Matt and Hilary for this and for focusing on such an important and brilliant writer.

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