Married to the Startup

Alicia McKenzie

Married to the Startup is a modern podcast where power couple, George and Alicia McKenzie, navigate the thrilling intersection of marriage, family, and entrepreneurship. With over a 15 years of partnership, this CEO and entrepreneurial coach duo share candid insights on building businesses while fostering a strong family unit. 

  1. APR 19

    In Conversation with the Host of Cake for Dinner - Keesha Scott

    Send us Fan Mail Keesha Scott is a co-founder of Guardian Recovery, a national behavioral health company with 800 employees and 17 facilities nationwide, a podcast host, and a soon-to-be published author. In this episode, she sits down with Alicia and George to talk about building a business with her husband, parenting through addiction and loss, and why leading with vulnerability is the most powerful thing she has ever done. Keesha and her husband bootstrapped Guardian Recovery from a two-person idea into a company rooted in a deeply personal why: both are in recovery, and her first husband died of a drug overdose. She opens up about what it looks like to build a business alongside a spouse when the mission is that close to home, including the terrifying moment during COVID when they thought the whole thing might sink. From wearing a weighted vest upside down to accidentally going viral, Keesha's approach to life and parenting is refreshingly unfiltered. She shares the story behind her podcast and upcoming book Cake for Dinner, why she stopped making herself small, and the one piece of advice she would give every couple running a business together: always remember your why. Timestamps: 00:00 Introduction to Keisha Scott and Her Journey 02:56 Building Guardian Recovery: A Family Affair 05:38 Navigating Sobriety and Parenting 08:16 The Intersection of Business and Personal Life 11:05 Wellness Practices Amidst Chaos 14:08 Embracing Authenticity and Imperfection 16:53 The Meaning Behind 'Cake for Dinner' 19:38 Lessons from Parenting and Social Media 22:38 The Impact of Social Media on Adolescents 25:24 Preparing Teens for Real-Life Challenges 28:11 Upcoming Book and Future Plans 30:56 Insights from Podcasting and Real Stories 33:37 Rapid Fire Questions and Final Thoughts ⸻ Sponsors:  Relive Gaithersburg: https://relivehealth.com/gaithersburg-md/ ⸻ Follow Cake for Dinner | Keesha Scott: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/keeshawscott/ Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/cakefordinnerpod/ Support the show Follow George and Alicia! https://www.instagram.com/liftlikeamother https://www.instagram.com/marriedtothestartup https://www.linkedin.com/in/gemckenzie/ www.linkedin.com/in/liftlikeamother https://liftlikeamother.com

    39 min
  2. APR 13

    MacKenzie-Childs Part 2 | The Dark Side of Rapid Expansion

    Send us Fan Mail What really happened to the woman behind MacKenzie-Childs? In this episode, Alicia and George go back to finish the story they started in episode 51, because it turns out there was a whole chapter the internet left out. Before private equity entered the picture, there was Pleasant Rowland, founder of American Girl, who bought MacKenzie-Childs out of bankruptcy for $5.5 million on a $15.3 million debt. What she did next is the part that got glossed over and it is a masterclass in capitalism doing what capitalism does, regardless of whether it feels right. Victoria MacKenzie-Childs passed away on March 4, 2026 at 77, and her death brought the full story out into the open. Alicia and George break down the Roland era, the non-compete, the lawsuit over Victoria’s own first name, and what it actually looks like when a creative builds something extraordinary, loses it, and keeps going anyway. Plus: why your lifestyle is exactly like the elastic in your underwear and why that matters for your business too.   Timestamps: 00:00 - The underwear elastic theory of lifestyle creep 01:00 - Meet your hosts (and their new grand-chickens) 03:00 - Quick recap: Episode 51 and why we’re back 05:30 - Honoring Victoria MacKenzie-Childs and the creative spirit 07:30 - The origin story: a TikTok comment that started it all 11:45 - Pleasant Rowland enters: the chapter the internet skipped 15:45 - How Pleasant Rowland used debt as leverage (the non-compete) 20:15 - The Roland era 2001 to 2007: rebuilding and the lawsuit over their names 26:00 - Capitalism vs. the artist: protect the creative at the table 32:30 - Victoria’s comeback: the ferry boat, M-Prize, and making art anyway 37:00 - Lifestyle creep, debt, and why the elastic never snaps back 38:30 - Know your non-negotiables before you need the money 39:00 - The classic founder cautionary tale (and what to do differently)  ⸻ Sponsors:  Relive Gaithersburg: https://relivehealth.com/gaithersburg-md/ Support the show Follow George and Alicia! https://www.instagram.com/liftlikeamother https://www.instagram.com/marriedtothestartup https://www.linkedin.com/in/gemckenzie/ www.linkedin.com/in/liftlikeamother https://liftlikeamother.com

    40 min
  3. APR 5

    What Nobody Tells You After the Exit

    Send us Fan Mail What actually happens after the big exit? In this episode, Alicia and George talk about the wealth event no one fully prepares you for and the three tensions that sneak up on almost every founder: identity crisis, lifestyle creep, and the paranoia of losing what you worked so hard to build. From a Chanel bag to a Lamborghini that eventually just sat in the garage, they share their own wins and regrets, including why every financial advisor tells you to wait six months before making a major purchase after a wealth event and why almost no founder actually does. The conversation gets personal as George opens up about the identity crisis that followed his post-sale sabbatical and Alicia shares how her childhood shaped her perspective on what money can and cannot buy. Their bottom line: don't wait for the number to hit before you figure out who you are outside of your business. Timestamps: 00:00 - Introduction and the truth about startup cash flow 03:15 - Preparing for a successful business exit 06:00 - Lifestyle changes post-wealth event 09:08 - The importance of financial planning after a wealth event 12:04 - Identity crisis after selling a business 15:00 - Celebrating success and lifestyle creep 18:00 - Managing expectations and requests from others 21:28 - The psychological impact of wealth 24:52 - Finding value and purpose post-wealth 28:05 - Changes in life post-wealth 31:21 - What hasn't changed despite wealth 34:20 - Personal stories and reflections on fear and wealth 36:31 - Advice for “couple-preneurs” and identity discussions Support the show Follow George and Alicia! https://www.instagram.com/liftlikeamother https://www.instagram.com/marriedtothestartup https://www.linkedin.com/in/gemckenzie/ www.linkedin.com/in/liftlikeamother https://liftlikeamother.com

    38 min
  4. MAR 29

    The Advice Economy Is Lying to You

    Send us Fan Mail Alicia and George call out three myths dominating entrepreneurship culture right now: more AI means more productivity, more money means more happiness, and owning a business beats working for someone else. They get into what actually happens when companies rush to implement tools without knowing what problem they're solving, the hidden costs that pile up when you start stacking subscriptions, and why the most-shared headlines about workplace transformation don't hold up under scrutiny. The second half gets personal. A $90 yurt near an active volcano beats an $1,800-a-night hotel, and they unpack why that gap exists and how targeted advertising keeps people chasing an upgrade they don't actually want. They also push back hard on the idea that entrepreneurship is the obvious path to a better life. Some of the happiest people they know have stable jobs, real vacation time, and no one calling them on weekends. Timestamps: 00:00 - Introduction and the truth about startup cash flow 03:03 - AI’s productivity gains vs. reality 06:02 - Common pitfalls in AI implementation 10:35 - Future vision: AI-powered memory aids 15:03 - Cost implications of AI tools 20:30 - Recommendations for beginners in AI 28:34 - Reconsidering work and success 36:02 - The fleeting nature of material happiness 44:01 - Importance of industry knowledge before entrepreneurship 50:21 - Prioritizing time with family over hustle 53:07 - Final thoughts on happiness and fulfillment ⸻ Sponsors:  Relive Gaithersburg: https://relivehealth.com/gaithersburg-md/ Support the show Follow George and Alicia! https://www.instagram.com/liftlikeamother https://www.instagram.com/marriedtothestartup https://www.linkedin.com/in/gemckenzie/ www.linkedin.com/in/liftlikeamother https://liftlikeamother.com

    54 min
  5. MAR 22

    How Two Outsiders Almost Destroyed a Multi-Million Dollar Idea

    Send us Fan Mail Stacey Spikes built MoviePass from the ground up, a subscription model that let you see unlimited movies for one monthly fee, only to watch investors hand his company to someone else. Alicia and George break down how slashing the price to $9.99 turned three million subscribers into a $40 million monthly loss, why gaming growth metrics is a trap that even smart founders fall into, and what really happens when you take capital from people who want control more than they want your vision to succeed. They also get into the uncomfortable truth about who gets rescued when a startup is drowning, and why Spikes buying his own company back out of bankruptcy might be the most satisfying ending in startup history. Timestamps: 0:00 - 1:00 Alicia and George introduce their personal update and episode background 8:00 The initial concept of MoviePass as a gym membership-like subscription 13:00 How aggressive subscriber growth was prioritized over profitability 14:00 The impact of lowering subscription prices from $40 to $9.99 16:00 The unsustainable math: losing $40 million in May 2018 alone 17:00 Changes in strategy: limiting use, locking out users, and the fallout 19:00 The financial shenanigans: loans, SEC issues, and the ultimate bankruptcy 22:00 The return of Stacey Spikes and the lesson in founder resilience 26:00 Critical reflections: why growth without profit is a business failure 28:00 The importance of founder control and avoiding bad investor influence 28:30 Racial disparities in startup funding and investor bias 30:00 The legacy and current state of MoviePass’s innovative idea Support the show Follow George and Alicia! https://www.instagram.com/liftlikeamother https://www.instagram.com/marriedtothestartup https://www.linkedin.com/in/gemckenzie/ www.linkedin.com/in/liftlikeamother https://liftlikeamother.com

    34 min
  6. MAR 9

    The Private Equity Playbook: How Investors Drained InstaPot

    Send us Fan Mail Robert Wang left his career as a PhD scientist to build the Instant Pot with his wife Tracy after one too many "what's for dinner" moments as two working parents. He breaks down the 18-month development process, how he grew a cult following of millions with zero marketing budget, and why selling direct-to-consumer on Amazon was the move that changed everything. Alicia and George dig into what really happened when private equity came knocking, why building a product that never breaks can actually work against you, and what every founder should know before signing on the dotted line. Timestamps: 00:00 Introduction and Personal Stories 00:59 The Problem: Dinner Dilemmas for Busy Families 02:06 The Birth of Instapot: Solving a Household Problem 04:06 Instapot's Early Success and Word of Mouth Marketing 05:50 Market Domination in 2016-2018 09:36 Private Equity Acquisition and Growth 11:51 Changing Hands: From Startup to Corporate 12:28 Financial Strategies and Overleveraging 17:23 COVID-19 Impact and Supply Chain Challenges 18:09 Product Safety and Quality Issues 20:03 Sales Decline and Market Saturation 21:28 Debt, Interest Rates, and Profitability 22:06 Bankruptcy and Restructuring 22:56 Post-Bankruptcy: New Ownership and Strategy 27:00 Lessons for Entrepreneurs and Investors 30:45 Final Takeaways and Episode Wrap-up ⸻ Sponsors:  Relive Gaithersburg: https://relivehealth.com/gaithersburg-md/ Support the show Follow George and Alicia! https://www.instagram.com/liftlikeamother https://www.instagram.com/marriedtothestartup https://www.linkedin.com/in/gemckenzie/ www.linkedin.com/in/liftlikeamother https://liftlikeamother.com

    33 min
  7. MAR 1

    From Lawyer to Founder: In conversation with Biologica

    Send us Fan Mail Elizabeth Zwillinger left her career as an attorney to co-found Biologica with her husband Joey.  She breaks down the two-year R&D process, how they stress-tested their idea with 1,000 women before building a single product, and why staying direct-to-consumer is the smartest move they've made.  Alicia and George dig into what it really looks like to build a company with your spouse, the calculated risks behind every big product decision, and why the best founders listen more than they talk — especially when they're not the target customer. Timestamps: 00:00 The Journey to Simplified Women's Health 03:01 Creating Biologica: A New Approach to Multivitamins 05:33 Navigating Business and Marriage 08:24 Research and Development: Crafting Effective Formulations 11:22 The Importance of Listening to Women's Needs 14:32 Personalized Nutrition: The Future of Women's Health 17:12 Feedback and Market Reception 20:17 Future Expansion and Product Development ⸻ Sponsors:  Relive Gaithersburg: https://relivehealth.com/gaithersburg-md/ ⸻ Follow Biologica | Elizabeth Zwillinger: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/biologica Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lizzwillinger/ Support the show Follow George and Alicia! https://www.instagram.com/liftlikeamother https://www.instagram.com/marriedtothestartup https://www.linkedin.com/in/gemckenzie/ www.linkedin.com/in/liftlikeamother https://liftlikeamother.com

    46 min
5
out of 5
13 Ratings

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Married to the Startup is a modern podcast where power couple, George and Alicia McKenzie, navigate the thrilling intersection of marriage, family, and entrepreneurship. With over a 15 years of partnership, this CEO and entrepreneurial coach duo share candid insights on building businesses while fostering a strong family unit. 

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