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Mass Appeal is a podcast connecting you with the top players in the mobile app economy. App marketing and monetization trends are everywhere, all at once. Our guests break down the winning strategies for how to build apps that monetize, market, and appeal to the masses. This industry just got noisier! Subscribe and join us every other week as our host Tommy Yannopoulos talks to leaders, CMOs, and CEOs of successful mobile apps. The Mass Appeal podcast is brought to you by adjoe, mobile app monetization and growth specialists. Available on adjoe.io/blog/.

  1. #31. Learning the Language of Loyalty: CRM Strategies from Babbel - Alejandro Hernandez (Babbel)

    06/04/2025

    #31. Learning the Language of Loyalty: CRM Strategies from Babbel - Alejandro Hernandez (Babbel)

    CRM today is much more than sending an email or push notification. It’s about predicting user behavior, understanding their motivations, and finding ways to support them on their journey. In this episode, Tommy chats with Alejandro Hernandez, the Senior CRM Notifications Manager at Babbel, the renowned language-learning app. They discuss what his role looks like today, including the collaborative work being done with data scientists, data engineers, and product teams to develop deep learning models that enhance customer communication. They also dig into CRM strategies to reduce churn and re-engage lapsed users.  Questions Alejandro answered in this episode:How much of what you learned in school translated to real-world experiences?What does CRM mean to you today? What is the main objective that you have within your role of CRM?In terms of CRM, what information are you looking for to understand how to communicate with someone?What other information are you looking for to leverage machine learning? And when you leverage machine learning, how does that affect your day-to-day work?Can you tell us about your strategy for reducing churn and reactivating users?What kind of details do you include in a push notification to prevent someone from churning?What are you looking forward to doing with CRM in the future?Timestamp:2:08 Intro to Alejandro6:18 What does CRM look like today9:10 Mapping out the learning journey12:08 Leveraging deep learning15:00 Strategies for reducing churn18:16 Reengaging dormant users24:25 The future of CRMMentioned in this Episode:Alejandro Hernandez’s LinkedInBabbel

    32 min
  2. #27. Building a Loyalty Rewards Coalition with 200+ Brands - Wei Tak “Tuck” Nyou (Loyalty Marketing, Inc)

    03/12/2025

    #27. Building a Loyalty Rewards Coalition with 200+ Brands - Wei Tak “Tuck” Nyou (Loyalty Marketing, Inc)

    In this episode, Tommy interviews Wei Tak “Tuck” Nyou, the Senior Manager of Loyalty Marketing at Ponta, a loyalty rewards coalition in Japan with over 200 brands and 120M Japanese members – more than 90 percent of Japan’s population. You’ll learn some of the reservations brands commonly express about joining such coalitions, as well as the value proposition for brands. You’ll also learn Ponta’s perspective on what makes a brand attractive to acquire. Finally, you’ll hear about the challenges and opportunities of expanding their loyalty rewards coalition overseas to Taiwan, Vietnam, and Hawaii, the potential for new verticals, and integrating mobile games with their reward program. Questions Tuck answered in this episode:Can you tell us a little about your background?Why did you want to shift your career from B2B to B2C?Can you tell us about Ponta and Loyalty Marketing?Why would a brand not want to join a loyalty coalition? What are the challenges of getting brands to join Ponta, for example?Is there an element of customer acquisition built into these programs?How do you determine which new brands would be most valuable for you to add to your coalition?Is there anything unique about the loyalty market in Japan? Does that make it difficult to expand into new regions overseas or are there opportunities to expand?Were there any challenges you encountered when you expanded to either Taiwan, Vietnam, or Hawaii?Are there new verticals you’re considering expanding into?Has your team considered integrating mobile games into your rewards program?Timestamp:2:20 Tuck’s professional background7:18 What does Ponta do?11:11 Common fears with loyalty coalitions15:20 Determining what brands to acquire17:24 Ponta research members18:50 Expanding our point system overseas20:23 Challenges to expansion23:01 New verticals26:17 Integrating mobile gamesMentioned in this Episode:Wei Tak “Tuck” Nyou’s LinkedInPonta’s Loyalty Marketing, Inc.Ponta’s Loyalty Marketing, Inc. (in Japanese)

    31 min
  3. #25. Deconstructing AI for Beginners - Bani Malhotra (Walmart)

    02/12/2025

    #25. Deconstructing AI for Beginners - Bani Malhotra (Walmart)

    It’s no secret: AI has been all the buzz lately. But, what is it, really? In this episode, Tommy talks to Bani Malhotra, the former Senior Director of Product Management for Site Experiences and Omnichannel Personalization at Walmart U.S. eCommerce, who demystifies the many terms we hear related to artificial intelligence, including machine learning, deep learning, LLMs, SLMs, and Generative AI. She covers its many use cases for marketers and product managers to advance efficiency, productivity, creativity, and even business development. She also touches on some of her concerns about the technology regarding its drawbacks.  Questions Bani answered in this episode:What was your first foray into a product role from your finance and strategy background, and what was one of the biggest challenges in making that leap?Were you implementing AI to help tackle some of the challenges you faced in your role at Walmart?When does a decision go from a logic tree to AI?How do outlier consumer purchases affect AI predictions?Could you define SLMs and LLMs?Where do you see AI benefiting marketers the most?Do you have any fears of what AI may threaten?Timestamp:2:38 Bani’s background9:58 Bani’s role at Walmart17:42 Use cases of AI for user experiences at Walmart21:10 The difference between heuristics and AI23:52 The spectrum of machine learning28:20 AI model confidence scoring31:10 What is AI? Defining AI-related terms41:00 Benefits of AI for marketers54:45 Concerns for AIMentioned in this Episode:Bani Malhotra’s LinkedIn

    1 hr

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Mass Appeal is a podcast connecting you with the top players in the mobile app economy. App marketing and monetization trends are everywhere, all at once. Our guests break down the winning strategies for how to build apps that monetize, market, and appeal to the masses. This industry just got noisier! Subscribe and join us every other week as our host Tommy Yannopoulos talks to leaders, CMOs, and CEOs of successful mobile apps. The Mass Appeal podcast is brought to you by adjoe, mobile app monetization and growth specialists. Available on adjoe.io/blog/.