The Family in Business Podcast

Metropole Mastermind

"For families who build businesses, and businesses that strengthen families” Running a business with family is one of the most rewarding things you can do. It's also one of the hardest. The Family in Business podcast is for Australian family business owners who want to grow a thriving, profitable business together - without letting it strain the relationships that matter most. Each week, hosts Mark and Caroline Creedon share honest conversations, practical strategies, and real-world insights drawn from over three decades of experience helping family businesses across Australia grow, scale, and plan for the future. Whether you're just starting to bring family into the business, trying to scale without burning out, navigating the tricky dynamics of working with a spouse or a sibling, or thinking seriously about succession and passing things on to the next generation - this show is built for you. Mark and Caroline cover the full family business journey: building systems that give you back your time, having the conversations most families avoid, creating a business that can run without you, and building wealth that carries across generations. This isn't a podcast about business in theory. It's about what actually works when the people around the boardroom table are also the people around the dinner table. Subscribe now and join a tribe of Australian family business owners keen to build something that lasts.

  1. 4d ago

    What Happens to Your Family Business If You Disappear

    What happens when you pull the trigger and nothing happens? For Ant Middleton, on a mission in Afghanistan, that wasn't hypothetical, his weapon misfired mid-mission. But he didn't panic. Because the person behind him had heard it, was trained for it, and took the shot without being asked. That's not luck. That's what happens when you build the right people around you. And your family business needs exactly the same thing. In this episode Mark and Caroline get into one of the most important questions every family business owner needs to sit with. If your trigger clicks tomorrow, who on your team takes the shot? They unpack why being indispensable feels like a badge of honour but works like a trap, what the military does differently that most business owners almost never think to apply, and why growing your people is always the fastest path to growing your business and your freedom. Being indispensable in your family business isn't a badge of honour. It's a warning sign. And the moment your trigger clicks, you'll find out whether you've built a business or just built yourself a very demanding job. In today's podcast you’ll discover: 01:36 - Why being indispensable in your family business is one of the most dangerous traps you can fall into05:07 - What the military does that most family business owners never do09:49 - Four things your family business needs right now13:37 Why growing your people is always the fastest path to growth14:31 - Questions that tell you exactly how dependent your business still is on you15:28 - The challenge that will show you whether your team could keep the mission going if your trigger clicked tomorrow ---------- About the Families in Business Podcast The Families in Business podcast is for family business owners who want to grow a thriving business together, without sacrificing the relationships that matter most. Each week, Mark and Caroline Creedon bring you honest conversations about the real challenges and opportunities that come with running a business as a family - from scaling and systems, to succession planning, to making sure the business serves your life and not the other way around. Whether you're in the early growth phase or thinking about passing the business on to the next generation, this podcast will give you practical strategies and a fresh perspective on the family business journey. ---------- About Your Hosts Mark and Caroline Creedon are business coaches with over three decades of hands-on experience helping Australian business owners build companies that give them more time, money and freedom. They understand the unique dynamics of running a business with family - because they live it themselves. ---------- Subscribe for More New episodes drop every week. Subscribe so you never miss practical advice on growing your family business, planning for the future, and building something that lasts. ---------- Enjoyed this episode? If this episode resonated with you, please leave a comment or review. It helps other family business owners find the show and join the conversation.

  2. Jul 28

    Why Family Businesses Stop Growing Without You Realising Why

    Most family businesses know how to grow. Very few know how to protect what they've built. Growing your business isn't just about making more sales or adding more clients. If you don't protect the things that matter most, every step forward becomes more fragile than the last. In this episode, Mark and Caroline unpack the final two levers of the GIPD framework and explore why sustainable growth depends on more than ambition. They share how to protect your culture, standards, reputation, and team while developing people who can take ownership, solve problems, and help your business thrive without relying on you for every decision. If you're serious about building a family business that lasts for generations instead of just surviving another busy year, this conversation will challenge the way you think about leadership. Building a stronger family business isn't about chasing every opportunity. It's about protecting what already makes your business great while developing people who can carry it forward with you. In today's podcast you’ll discover: 02:07 - What every family business should be protecting beyond profit and assets05:54 - Why growth without protection creates instability and unnecessary risk08:05 - How developing people helps eliminate the owner bottleneck10:04 - Leadership questions every business owner should ask each week12:17 - The four GIPD levers that create stronger, more resilient family businesses13:10 - Why potential matters more than performance when developing your team13:41 - A simple quarterly review that keeps your business improving year after year ---------- About the Families in Business Podcast The Families in Business podcast is for family business owners who want to grow a thriving business together, without sacrificing the relationships that matter most. Each week, Mark and Caroline Creedon bring you honest conversations about the real challenges and opportunities that come with running a business as a family - from scaling and systems, to succession planning, to making sure the business serves your life and not the other way around. Whether you're in the early growth phase or thinking about passing the business on to the next generation, this podcast will give you practical strategies and a fresh perspective on the family business journey. ---------- About Your Hosts Mark and Caroline Creedon are business coaches with over three decades of hands-on experience helping Australian business owners build companies that give them more time, money and freedom. They understand the unique dynamics of running a business with family - because they live it themselves. ---------- Subscribe for More New episodes drop every week. Subscribe so you never miss practical advice on growing your family business, planning for the future, and building something that lasts. ---------- Enjoyed this episode? If this episode resonated with you, please leave a comment or review. It helps other family business owners find the show and join the conversation.

  3. Jul 21

    How To Grow Your Family Business Without Working Any Harder Than You Already Are

    If everyone in your business improved by just 1%, what would that be worth in a year's time? In this episode, Mark and Caroline introduce the first half of their GIPD framework and explain why every single person in your business should be responsible for moving the business forward. You'll discover the difference between growing something and improving something, why tiny gains across every department create massive results, and how to stop being a business full of problem spotters and start building a team of problem solvers. If your business feels stuck despite everyone working hard, this episode will give you a completely different way to think about growth. Growth isn't reserved for leadership. When everyone in the business owns a piece of the outcome, momentum stops depending on one person and starts becoming part of the culture. That's when real growth becomes sustainable. In today's podcast you’ll discover: 04:28 - How the four business growth levers create momentum across your entire business06:06 - Why every single person in your business should own a growth number08:49 - Why doing less but doing it better is sometimes the most powerful growth move you can make10:12 - The difference between growing results and improving systems11:01 - How to stop just raising problems and start creating solutions14:49 - The simple seven-day challenge that gets your whole team pulling in the same direction ---------- About the Families in Business Podcast The Families in Business podcast is for family business owners who want to grow a thriving business together, without sacrificing the relationships that matter most. Each week, Mark and Caroline Creedon bring you honest conversations about the real challenges and opportunities that come with running a business as a family - from scaling and systems, to succession planning, to making sure the business serves your life and not the other way around. Whether you're in the early growth phase or thinking about passing the business on to the next generation, this podcast will give you practical strategies and a fresh perspective on the family business journey. ---------- About Your Hosts Mark and Caroline Creedon are business coaches with over three decades of hands-on experience helping Australian business owners build companies that give them more time, money and freedom. They understand the unique dynamics of running a business with family - because they live it themselves. ---------- Subscribe for More New episodes drop every week. Subscribe so you never miss practical advice on growing your family business, planning for the future, and building something that lasts. ---------- Enjoyed this episode? If this episode resonated with you, please leave a comment or review. It helps other family business owners find the show and join the conversation.

  4. Jul 14

    The True Cost Of Avoiding Hard Conversations In Your Family Business

    You tell yourself you don't fight about work. But if you're honest, the reason you're not fighting about it is because you haven't actually talked about it. And that silence is costing you more than you think. The conversations you're avoiding in your family business aren't keeping the peace. They're building resentment. And resentment doesn't stay at the office. It shows up at the dinner table, the family barbecue, and everywhere else you'd rather leave work behind. In this episode, Mark and Caroline get into one of the most avoided topics in family business. Difficult conversations. And why most family business owners dodge them, what that avoidance is quietly costing them, and how to have the honest conversations that actually make a business stronger without blowing up the relationship in the process. They get into the concept of Radical Candor, the balance between being kind and being honest, and why respect in a family business matters more than harmony. There's also a simple three-part framework for delivering a tough message in a way that keeps the other person open instead of defensive. This episode will make you think about a conversation you've been putting off. And then it's going to give you exactly what you need to have it. The family businesses that last aren't the ones where everyone agrees all the time. They're the ones where people feel safe enough to disagree, honest enough to say what needs to be said, and respectful enough to hear it. That's what this episode is about. And it's a conversation worth having before the silence does any more damage. This is exactly the work we do inside our Mastermind program. If you're ready to have the conversations that actually move your family business forward, hit the link in the show notes and let's talk. In today's podcast you’ll discover: 00:51 - Why avoiding difficult conversations in your family business isn't keeping the peace02:10 - Why the things you don't say are just as dangerous as the things you do04:22 - How balancing honesty with kindness changes the way tough conversations land06:07 - Why respect matters more than harmony in a family business09:35 - Why the most successful family businesses don't avoid conflict and what they do instead that keeps the business and the relationship strong10:53 - Why the things causing resentment in your business are almost never intentional12:35 - The question that reveals exactly what the silence in your family business is costing you right now ---------- About the Families in Business Podcast The Families in Business podcast is for family business owners who want to grow a thriving business together, without sacrificing the relationships that matter most. Each week, Mark and Caroline Creedon bring you honest conversations about the real challenges and opportunities that come with running a business as a family - from scaling and systems, to succession planning, to making sure the business serves your life and not the other way around. Whether you're in the early growth phase or thinking about passing the business on to the next generation, this podcast will give you practical strategies and a fresh perspective on the family business journey. ---------- About Your Hosts Mark and Caroline Creedon are business coaches with over three decades of hands-on experience helping Australian business owners build companies that give them more time, money and freedom. They understand the unique dynamics of running a business with family - because they live it themselves. ---------- Subscribe for More New episodes drop every week. Subscribe so you never miss practical advice on growing your family business, planning for the future, and building something that lasts. ---------- Enjoyed this episode? If this episode resonated with you, please leave a comment or review. It helps other family business owners find the show and join the conversation.

  5. Jul 7

    Why Most Family Business Meetings Go Nowhere (And How To Fix That)

    You walk out of the meeting, nothing's resolved, same problems, same result, and you know you'll be having this exact conversation again next week. But it's not the problems that are the issue. It's how you're having the conversation. Most family business owners think more meetings means more progress, but back-to-back meetings usually just mean back-to-back frustration. And it doesn't stay at work. It follows you home. In this episode, Mark and Caroline break down the four-step framework that turns meetings that go nowhere into conversations that actually move your business forward, the kind that end with everyone knowing exactly what they're doing next, and by when. They get into why listening to reply is quietly wrecking your conversations, the one language trick that keeps people out of defence mode, and the accountability step almost every business owner skips. Fifteen minutes to change how every hard conversation in your business goes from here. Want to work through this in person? We're giving away golden tickets to our two-day Mastermind Intensive on the Gold Coast, 22nd and 23rd of July. Normally exclusive to Mastermind members. Drop ‘GOLDEN’ in the YouTube comments or hit the link in the podcast notes to enter. We're drawing on Monday the 13th of July. We'd love to see you there. In today's podcast you’ll discover: 01:17 - Why more meetings sometimes means more wasted time02:35 - How to get crystal clear before a conversation starts so it doesn't go off the rails04:37 - Why listening to reply is quietly killing your conversations and the questions that fix it09:10 - How to use this framework with your business partner, your team, and your managers10:05 - Why staying stuck in the problem is the most unproductive thing you can do and how to get out of it fast11:28 - Why knowing who does what by when is what stops good conversations from going absolutely nowhere12:29 - The things that kill productive conversations before they even get started and the simple language trick that keeps everyone out of defence mode14:16 - Why a bad conversation at work never stays at work and what this framework does for your relationship at home ---------- About the Families in Business Podcast The Families in Business podcast is for family business owners who want to grow a thriving business together, without sacrificing the relationships that matter most. Each week, Mark and Caroline Creedon bring you honest conversations about the real challenges and opportunities that come with running a business as a family - from scaling and systems, to succession planning, to making sure the business serves your life and not the other way around. Whether you're in the early growth phase or thinking about passing the business on to the next generation, this podcast will give you practical strategies and a fresh perspective on the family business journey. ---------- About Your Hosts Mark and Caroline Creedon are business coaches with over three decades of hands-on experience helping Australian business owners build companies that give them more time, money and freedom. They understand the unique dynamics of running a business with family - because they live it themselves. ---------- Subscribe for More New episodes drop every week. Subscribe so you never miss practical advice on growing your family business, planning for the future, and building something that lasts. ---------- Enjoyed this episode? If this episode resonated with you, please leave a comment or review. It helps other family business owners find the show and join the conversation.

  6. Jun 30

    Here’s How To Stop The Work That's Draining Your Family Business Dry

    You know that feeling when you get home after a long day and you've got nothing left to give? That's not burnout. That's what happens when you spend your best hours doing work that was never meant for you in the first place. Every family business owner has things on their plate that are slowly draining the life out of them. But the problem isn't the work. It's that they keep doing it anyway. In this episode, Mark and Caroline follow on from their conversation about the five time zones and get into the practical side of it. How do you actually know when you're working in your genius zone? And more importantly, how do you get there more often? They walk through a simple exercise called Gains and Drains. It helps you identify the work that's quietly sapping your energy, figure out what to do with it, and replace it with the kind of work that actually fills you back up. The kind that makes you better at your business, better at home, and honestly just better to be around. You don't need a complete overhaul of your business to start feeling great about it. A single decision done consistently over time is what moves you from exhausted to energised and from busy to actually free. The things that are exhausting you most in your business are also the clearest signal of exactly what you should stop doing. Procrastination isn't a personality flaw. It's your subconscious telling you something important about where your time and energy shouldn't be going. In today's podcast you’ll discover: 01:43 – Why finding your genius zone is about energy, not money, and the simple exercise that shows you where you're losing it03:51 – The seven-day audit that exposes what's been quietly draining the life out of you and your business06:12 – The DAD principle: delete it, automate it, or delegate it08:14 – The motivation hack of using your "gains" as the reason to finally deal with your drains11:43 – Why procrastination is not a productivity problem but a signal12:38 – Why a day full of drains never stays neatly inside your business where it belongs14:53 – The micro shift approach that actually moves the needle ---------- About the Families in Business Podcast The Families in Business podcast is for family business owners who want to grow a thriving business together, without sacrificing the relationships that matter most. Each week, Mark and Caroline Creedon bring you honest conversations about the real challenges and opportunities that come with running a business as a family - from scaling and systems, to succession planning, to making sure the business serves your life and not the other way around. Whether you're in the early growth phase or thinking about passing the business on to the next generation, this podcast will give you practical strategies and a fresh perspective on the family business journey. ---------- About Your Hosts Mark and Caroline Creedon are business coaches with over three decades of hands-on experience helping Australian business owners build companies that give them more time, money and freedom. They understand the unique dynamics of running a business with family - because they live it themselves. ---------- Subscribe for More New episodes drop every week. Subscribe so you never miss practical advice on growing your family business, planning for the future, and building something that lasts. ---------- Enjoyed this episode? If this episode resonated with you, please leave a comment or review. It helps other family business owners find the show and join the conversation.

  7. Jun 23

    The Productivity Mistake Most Family Businesses Don't See

    You don't need more hours in the day. You just need to stop spending your best hours on the wrong things. Because the biggest threat to your growth isn't a lack of opportunity. It's spending too much time doing work someone else should be doing. In this episode, Mark and Caroline unpack a practical framework for identifying where your hours are really going and why being busy doesn't always mean you're creating value. They explore the different “time zones” every business owner operates in, how certain tasks quietly drain your energy and impact, and why the ultimate goal isn't productivity at all. It's freedom. If you've ever ended a day feeling exhausted but strangely unaccomplished, this episode will help you rethink what deserves your attention and what needs to leave your plate. The goal isn't to squeeze more work into your calendar. The goal is to spend more time doing the work that only you can do. The closer you move toward that zone, the closer you get to the freedom you hoped your business would give you when you started it. The businesses that create lasting wealth aren't necessarily the ones working the longest hours. They're the ones that become intentional about where their time goes. Take a moment this week to identify one task you're holding onto that someone else could own. That single decision might be the first step toward building a business that serves your life instead of consuming it. In today's podcast you’ll discover: 00:30 - Why understanding the value of time matters more than managing it03:44 - The four time zones every family business owner operates in08:00 - A simple exercise that reveals where your time is leaking09:16 - How to find your highest-value work12:30 - A powerful mindset shift for leaders who feel guilty when they aren't constantly crossing tasks off a list14:07 - How delegation forces better decisions and helps you stop becoming the bottleneck15:20 - The 90-day challenge that exposes what needs to come off your plate and who can help carry the load16:54 - The fifth time zone most business owners never reach ---------- About the Families in Business Podcast The Families in Business podcast is for family business owners who want to grow a thriving business together, without sacrificing the relationships that matter most. Each week, Mark and Caroline Creedon bring you honest conversations about the real challenges and opportunities that come with running a business as a family - from scaling and systems, to succession planning, to making sure the business serves your life and not the other way around. Whether you're in the early growth phase or thinking about passing the business on to the next generation, this podcast will give you practical strategies and a fresh perspective on the family business journey. ---------- About Your Hosts Mark and Caroline Creedon are business coaches with over three decades of hands-on experience helping Australian business owners build companies that give them more time, money and freedom. They understand the unique dynamics of running a business with family - because they live it themselves. ---------- Subscribe for More New episodes drop every week. Subscribe so you never miss practical advice on growing your family business, planning for the future, and building something that lasts. ---------- Enjoyed this episode? If this episode resonated with you, please leave a comment or review. It helps other family business owners find the show and join the conversation.

    The Productivity Mistake Most Family Businesses Don't See
  8. Jun 16

    How to Set Targets That Actually Move Your Family Business Forward

    Most family business owners set targets by looking at last year's numbers, picking a percentage increase, and getting on with it, and here's why that almost never works the way it should In this episode, Mark and Caroline make the case for a completely different approach to target setting. One that starts with vision instead of figures, includes your whole team instead of just your sales department, and measures things that actually matter to the people inside your business. They get into why financial targets alone are not enough, what Ford Motor Company's dramatic turnaround teaches us about culture and performance, and what a plumber, an accountant, and a receptionist all have in common when it comes to setting meaningful goals. The way you think about targets is going to shift. And once it does, you'll never look at the end of financial year planning the same way again. The businesses that hit their targets aren't the ones with the biggest numbers on the whiteboard. They're the ones who know why those numbers matter, who's working toward them, and what it actually feels like to get there. That's what this episode gives you. And it's a much better place to start than a spreadsheet. In today's podcast you’ll discover: 01:17 - Why starting with numbers is the wrong way to set targets (and what to start with instead)02:29 - What happens to performance when you share your vision with your team04:25 - Why every single person in your business needs a target, not just your sales team06:20 - A story on why financial targets can't be the only thing you measure07:29 - Simple metrics that tell you more about your business than your profit and loss ever will10:14 - What really drives performance, retention, and growth all at once12:39 - How the score takes care of itself when you focus on the right things first13:23 - What to sit down and map out right now as you head into a new financial year ---------- About the Families in Business Podcast The Families in Business podcast is for family business owners who want to grow a thriving business together, without sacrificing the relationships that matter most. Each week, Mark and Caroline Creedon bring you honest conversations about the real challenges and opportunities that come with running a business as a family - from scaling and systems, to succession planning, to making sure the business serves your life and not the other way around. Whether you're in the early growth phase or thinking about passing the business on to the next generation, this podcast will give you practical strategies and a fresh perspective on the family business journey. ---------- About Your Hosts Mark and Caroline Creedon are business coaches with over three decades of hands-on experience helping Australian business owners build companies that give them more time, money and freedom. They understand the unique dynamics of running a business with family - because they live it themselves. ---------- Subscribe for More New episodes drop every week. Subscribe so you never miss practical advice on growing your family business, planning for the future, and building something that lasts. ---------- Enjoyed this episode? If this episode resonated with you, please leave a comment or review. It helps other family business owners find the show and join the conversation.

    How to Set Targets That Actually Move Your Family Business Forward

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"For families who build businesses, and businesses that strengthen families” Running a business with family is one of the most rewarding things you can do. It's also one of the hardest. The Family in Business podcast is for Australian family business owners who want to grow a thriving, profitable business together - without letting it strain the relationships that matter most. Each week, hosts Mark and Caroline Creedon share honest conversations, practical strategies, and real-world insights drawn from over three decades of experience helping family businesses across Australia grow, scale, and plan for the future. Whether you're just starting to bring family into the business, trying to scale without burning out, navigating the tricky dynamics of working with a spouse or a sibling, or thinking seriously about succession and passing things on to the next generation - this show is built for you. Mark and Caroline cover the full family business journey: building systems that give you back your time, having the conversations most families avoid, creating a business that can run without you, and building wealth that carries across generations. This isn't a podcast about business in theory. It's about what actually works when the people around the boardroom table are also the people around the dinner table. Subscribe now and join a tribe of Australian family business owners keen to build something that lasts.

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