Medici Presents: Level Up

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Presented by the Medici Network, Level Up is the premier podcast for institutional investors navigating liquid token markets. Hosts David Grider from Finality Capital and Sean Farrell from Fundstrat sit down with top protocol founders and crypto-native fund managers to cut through the noise. Each episode unpacks token economics, adoption trends, valuation frameworks, and key risks—giving you the insights to stay ahead in the evolving digital asset landscape.

  1. Medici Level Up with Mark Wendland & Mark Toomey of Canton Strategic Holdings

    1D AGO

    Medici Level Up with Mark Wendland & Mark Toomey of Canton Strategic Holdings

    In this episode of Level Up, hosts David and Sean speak with Mark Wendland, CEO, and Mark Toomey, President of Canton Strategic Holdings. They break down the Canton Network’s focus on institutional blockchain adoption, including tokenized real-world assets, intraday repo markets, and privacy-enabled infrastructure. The conversation covers Canton Network's architecture, tokenomics, and governance model, as well as how Canton Strategic Holdings is building a differentiated DAT model through validator operations, ecosystem investing, and app development. The Marks also discuss how major financial institutions are already building on Canton and what that shift means for the future of market infrastructure.  View the Full Level Up Podcast Disclaimer Here: https://level-up-podcast-disclaimer.super.site/     Key Points From This Episode:  [00:00:00] Scale of tokenized assets and repo activity on Canton Network  [00:00:19] Introduction to Level Up and Canton Strategic Holdings  [00:01:27] Overview of Canton Strategic Holdings and the CC token  [00:03:27] Institutional-focused blockchain: configurable privacy, tokenomics, and governance  [00:06:22] Revenue opportunities through validators and network participation  [00:07:19] Real-world use case: repo transactions on-chain  [00:08:59] Tokenomics model and burn-mint equilibrium  [00:10:04] Emissions schedule and valuation considerations  [00:12:48] Market performance of CSH vs other digital asset companies  [00:14:15] Mark Wendland’s background in treasury and operations  [00:14:55] Mark Toomey’s background and transition into blockchain  [00:16:57] Canton’s core investment thesis and institutional focus  [00:20:08] What defines a digital asset treasury company  [00:21:35] Strategy beyond token accumulation: validators and app development  [00:23:15] Expanding ecosystem through lending, options, and apps  [00:25:43] Super validator role and expected yield  [00:27:24] Evolution from private to public blockchain  [00:29:34] Key KPIs: institutional usage and transaction volume  [00:31:37] Deep dive into intraday repo use cases  [00:35:46] How apps, transactions, and rewards interact on Canton  [00:37:21] Economic flow of transactions and token incentives  [00:40:35] Validator vs super validator roles  [00:41:41] Growth of applications and institutional integrations  [00:44:52] Measuring success for Canton Strategic Holdings  [00:46:11] Company strategy: capital markets, validators, and ecosystem investment  [00:49:56] Capital structure and funding strategy  [00:51:15] Competitive landscape and institutional adoption  [00:54:57] Differentiation through privacy and financial market focus  [00:57:33] Public vs private blockchain adoption by banks  [01:00:31] Governance structure and foundation participation  [01:04:40] Token distribution and decentralization considerations  [01:06:32] Key risks: timing, regulation, and execution  [01:09:49] Final thoughts on early-stage growth and execution      Links:   The Medici Network: https://www.medici.network/    Podcast Site: https://levelup.medici.network/    Canton Strategic Holdings: https://www.cantonstrategic.com/     Interested in being a Guest? Connect with Elmira on X: https://x.com/elmira_yilham       Co-Hosts   David Grider, Finality Capital - https://x.com/David_Grid   Sean Farrell, Fundstrat Global Advisors - https://x.com/SeanMFarrell      Guests   Mark Wendland, CEO of Canton Strategic Holdings -   https://www.linkedin.com/in/mark-wendland-1b2a0515    Mark Toomey, President of Canton Strategic Holdings -  https://www.linkedin.com/in/mark-toomey-34196b     Production and editing by The Podcast Consultant  - https://thepodcastconsultant.com/

    1h 12m
  2. Medici Level Up with Xiao-Xiao J. Zhu, President of Jupiter

    MAR 24

    Medici Level Up with Xiao-Xiao J. Zhu, President of Jupiter

    In this episode of Level Up, David and Sean sit down with Xiao-Xiao J. Zhu, President of Jupiter, to discuss the evolution of Jupiter from a DEX aggregator into a full-scale DeFi super app on Solana. Xiao Xiao shares his background from KKR to crypto and outlines Jupiter’s product suite, including trading, lending, mobile, and more. The conversation covers growth metrics, token design, competition, and the long-term vision for on-chain finance, including omni-chain infrastructure and expanding real-world asset integration.    View the Full Level Up Podcast Disclaimer Here: https://level-up-podcast-disclaimer.super.site/     Key Points From This Episode:  [00:00:00] Jupiter’s role as an application layer driving adoption on Solana  [00:00:24] Podcast introduction and overview of Jupiter’s business model  [00:01:03] Breakdown of Jupiter’s revenue, products, and market position  [00:05:03] Growth in users, volumes, and product expansion  [00:07:18] Product roadmap including mobile, prediction markets, and stablecoins  [00:10:30] Omni-chain vision and JupNet introduction  [00:13:27] Xiao Xiao’s background and transition from KKR to Jupiter  [00:16:00] Shift from centralized exchanges to on-chain finance  [00:20:10] Jupiter’s evolution into a DeFi super app and token thesis  [00:25:59] Product suite breakdown: spot, perps, lending, and launchpad  [00:29:30] Scale of trading volumes, wallet growth, and infrastructure  [00:33:18] Key KPIs: active wallets, volume, TVL, and revenue  [00:34:06] Financial performance and revenue composition  [00:39:35] Major growth drivers: mobile, lending, payments, and JupNet  [00:43:43] Architecture and positioning of JupNet  [00:45:20] Mobile adoption and user behavior trends  [00:49:21] Tokenized real-world assets and institutional integration  [00:53:08] Expansion plans for perps and new trading models  [00:55:09] Competitive landscape across DeFi and centralized platforms  [01:00:12] Competition with Hyperliquid and centralized exchanges  [01:02:40] Moats in DeFi: distribution, product velocity, and brand  [01:04:31] Governance structure and DAO participation  [01:09:36] Token supply, burn mechanics, and buyback strategy  [01:14:30] Strategic investment from ParaFi and token positioning  [01:17:00] Future token utility and integration into the product ecosystem    Links:   The Medici Network: https://www.medici.network/    Podcast Site: https://levelup.medici.network/    Jupiter Site: https://jup.ag/   Jupiter LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/jupiter-onchain/      Interested in being a Guest? Connect with Elmira on X: https://x.com/elmira_yilham       Co-Hosts   David Grider, Finality Capital - https://x.com/David_Grid   Sean Farrell, Fundstrat Global Advisors - https://x.com/SeanMFarrell      Guest   Xiao-Xiao J. Zhu, Jupiter   X - https://x.com/xxjzhu   LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/xiao-xiao-j-zhu-12078730/     Production and editing by The Podcast Consultant  - https://thepodcastconsultant.com/

    1h 28m
  3. Medici Level Up with Paul Faecks, Founder of Plasma

    FEB 20

    Medici Level Up with Paul Faecks, Founder of Plasma

    In this episode of Level Up, David and Sean speak with Paul Faecks, Founder of Plasma, a stablecoin-focused Layer 1 blockchain. Paul shares his background in early crypto/DeFi, why Plasma is optimized for stablecoin payments, and how Plasma One (a stablecoin neobank with cards and ramps) is intended to drive long-term value beyond blockchain fees. They also discuss token value accrual, validator decentralization, regulatory risks, and more.   View the Full Level Up Podcast Disclaimer Here: https://level-up-podcast-disclaimer.super.site/     Key Points From This Episode:  [00:00:00] Introduction  [00:12:48] Paul’s background and thesis behind Plasma  [00:15:12] Regulatory landscape and stablecoin adoption outlook  [00:18:41] Deep dive into Plasma One’s neo banking model  [00:19:59] Why a dedicated stablecoin blockchain is necessary  [00:21:41] Gasless USDT transfers and paymaster design  [00:23:06] KPIs, incentives reduction, and focus on sustainable growth  [00:25:09] Productizing stablecoins across global markets  [00:28:24] Key jurisdictions: Turkey, Middle East, and South America  [00:29:44] Stablecoins as a geopolitical advantage for the U.S.  [00:30:19] Plasma One’s target users and business model  [00:32:28] End-to-end infrastructure for cross-border payments  [00:33:02] Token value accrual and foundation ownership structure  [00:35:05] Competition with Stripe’s Tempo and other players  [00:40:26] Distribution strategy vs. legacy players like Western Union  [00:42:17] Exchange-to-exchange USDT settlement flows  [00:45:13] Paymasters and abstracted gas fees  [00:47:44] Why gas fees alone don’t create long-term token value  [00:48:41] What makes an L1 token investable  [00:52:07] Validator rollout and decentralization roadmap  [00:53:41] Echo pre-deposit launch and token sale structure  [00:57:25] Fundraising history and major investors  [01:00:06] Regulatory risks and market infrastructure bill  [01:01:45] Final thoughts: Stablecoins and 2026 outlook    Links:   The Medici Network: https://www.medici.network/    Podcast Site: https://levelup.medici.network/    Plasma: https://www.plasma.to/      Interested in being a Guest? Connect with Elmira on X: https://x.com/elmira_yilham       Co-Hosts   David Grider, Finality Capital - https://x.com/David_Grid   Sean Farrell, Fundstrat Global Advisors - https://x.com/SeanMFarrell      Guest   Paul Faecks, Plasma   X - https://x.com/pauliepunt?lang=en  LinkedIn - https://de.linkedin.com/in/paul-f-540895a4/en     Production and editing by The Podcast Consultant  - https://thepodcastconsultant.com/

    1h 2m
  4. Medici Level Up with Yair Cleper, Contributor of Lava Network

    JAN 30

    Medici Level Up with Yair Cleper, Contributor of Lava Network

    In this episode of Level Up, David and Sean sit down with Yair Cleper, Co-Founder of Magma Devs and contributor to the Lava Network. Yair shares his entrepreneurial journey and how Lava Network is building a decentralized RPC protocol that ensures uptime, reduces fragmentation, and supports blockchain infrastructure. He also discusses Lava’s smart routing technology, token economics, the long-term vision of establishing a resilient access layer for Web3 applications, and more.   View the Full Level Up Podcast Disclaimer Here: https://level-up-podcast-disclaimer.super.site/     Key Points From This Episode:  [00:00:00] Introduction  [00:10:00] Yair’s background, early startup experience, and introduction to crypto  [00:12:06] The RPC problem Lava Network aims to solve  [00:14:54] Lava token utility and service coordination model  [00:16:49] How node operators stake and provide regional coverage  [00:18:22] Subscription-based access for wallets and apps  [00:21:08] Lava’s SaaS-style pricing tiers and on-chain payments  [00:22:56] Provider payouts based on service quality scoring  [00:24:59] Fireblocks use case and evolution to smart router  [00:26:29] Centralized vs decentralized RPCs and Lava’s advantage  [00:29:45] How Lava’s smart router handles outages and false data  [00:33:18] Revenue flows from enterprise clients to node providers  [00:35:01] Permissionless gateways and network extensibility  [00:38:38] Off-chain data routing and on-chain session scoring  [00:39:46] Differentiation from other decentralized RPC networks  [00:41:51] Key performance metrics: uptime, latency, availability  [00:45:48] Protocol growth: revenue, subscribers, and adoption  [00:47:55] Lava’s roadmap and vision for scaling infrastructure  [00:49:52] Token supply, staking, and reward dynamics  [00:53:29] Burn mechanism and protocol deflationary design  [00:54:58] Governance process and recent community proposals  [00:57:39] Risks, outlook for 2026, and Yair’s closing thoughts    Links:   The Medici Network: https://www.medici.network/    Podcast Site: https://levelup.medici.network/       Interested in being a Guest? Connect with Elmira on X: https://x.com/elmira_yilham       Co-Hosts   David Grider, Finality Capital - https://x.com/David_Grid   Sean Farrell, Fundstrat Global Advisors - https://x.com/SeanMFarrell      Guests   Yair Cleper, Lava Network   X: https://x.com/yaircleper   LinkedIn: - https://www.linkedin.com/in/cleper       Production and editing by The Podcast Consultant  - https://thepodcastconsultant.com/

    1h 2m
  5. Medici Level Up with Amir Haleem, Co-Founder of Helium

    12/23/2025

    Medici Level Up with Amir Haleem, Co-Founder of Helium

    In this episode of LevelUp, David and Sean sit down with Amir Haleem, co-founder of Helium and CEO of Nova Labs. Amir shares Helium's decade-long evolution from IoT infrastructure to a decentralized 5G network powering real-world wireless coverage. He breaks down the Helium Mobile business model, how token incentives drive hotspot deployment, and why carrier offload could transform the economics of telecom. The discussion covers network growth, tokenomics, governance, and the future of decentralized physical infrastructure. View the Full Level Up Podcast Disclaimer Here: https://level-up-podcast-disclaimer.super.site/ Key Points From This Episode: [00:00:00] David and Sean’s opening segment: Helium overview, HNT stats/market context, DePIN comps, and how Helium’s mobile + offload businesses work [00:12:49] Interview begins — Amir joins and frames Helium as a decade-plus journey [00:13:03] From video games to Helium: early career in gaming and esports, meeting Sean Fanning, and the origins of the IoT thesis [00:17:13] The hardest problem pre-crypto: deploying a wireless network at scale without billions in capital [00:21:24] Token evolution: HNT’s role in cold start, Proof-of-Coverage, sub-tokens experiment, and why everything merged back into HNT [00:26:19] Product breakdown: hotspot deployment, carrier offload for AT&T/others vs. Helium Mobile’s subscriber (MVNO-like) business [00:34:03] Helium Mobile unit economics: offload percentage targets, reducing reliance on T-Mobile, and why traditional MVNOs struggle ​​[00:40:21] How the money moves: dollars in → HNT bought and burned → data credits → hotspot payouts at ~$0.50 per GB​ [00:49:30] Carrier offload today: live carrier count, Mexico / Telefónica rollout, DAUs, and daily terabytes of traffic [00:53:10] Tokenomics today: deflationary dynamics, halving cadence, net issuance turning negative, and fundamentals vs. price [01:01:52] Governance and network control: HIP process, vote-locking, why hotspot operators don’t need to stake HNT [01:05:13] Clarifying Helium Mobile vs. offload users and how DAU scales across the network [01:22:35] Final reflections on Helium’s trajectory and closing thoughts [01:23:59] Outro and sign-off Links: The Medici Network: https://www.medici.network/ Podcast Site: https://levelup.medici.network/ Interested in being a Guest? Connect with Elmira on X: https://x.com/elmira_yilham Co-Hosts David Grider, Finality Capital - https://x.com/David_Grid Sean Farrell, Fundstrat Global Advisors - https://x.com/SeanMFarrell Guests Amir Haleem, Helium - https://x.com/amirhaleem Production and editing by The Podcast Consultant - https://thepodcastconsultant.com

    1h 24m
  6. Medici Level Up with Jansen Teng, Co-Founder of Virtuals Protocol

    12/17/2025

    Medici Level Up with Jansen Teng, Co-Founder of Virtuals Protocol

    In this episode of Level Up, David and Sean speak with Jansen Teng, Co-Founder of Virtuals Protocol. Jansen breaks down how Virtuals is pioneering the agent-to-agent economy by combining AI agents with blockchain infrastructure. The conversation explores agent tokenization, commerce protocols, and the vision for a fully autonomous digital and physical agent-driven marketplace. They also examine Virtuals' revenue models, current use cases, and future expansion plans.     View the Full Level Up Podcast Disclaimer Here: https://level-up-podcast-disclaimer.super.site/     Key Points From This Episode:  [00:00:00] Host intro: David and Sean introduce guest Jansen Teng and Virtuals Protocol [00:17:05] Introduction to Virtuals Protocol and its AI-blockchain thesis [00:18:36] Market traction, metrics, and agentic GDP [00:23:17] Examples of agents on Virtuals [00:27:55] Multi-agent coordination via ACP and flow of funds [00:32:48] Real-world vs crypto use cases and roadmap for Web2 integration [00:36:22] Virtual token mechanics: base pair currency and treasury governance [00:40:14] Supply, issuance, and value accrual strategies [00:44:29] Governance structure and use of vote-escrowed tokens [00:48:17] Competitive landscape: launchpads, agentic frameworks, and AI protocols [00:51:30] Integration with Base and scalability concerns [00:54:40] Attention as the biggest risk and robotics as the next frontier [00:58:24] Performance metrics and upcoming catalysts for Virtuals Protocol [01:02:17] Final thoughts from Jansen on the agentic economy vision Links:   The Medici Network: https://www.medici.network/    Podcast Site: https://levelup.medici.network/       Interested in being a Guest? Connect with Elmira on X: https://x.com/elmira_yilham       Co-Hosts   David Grider, Finality Capital - https://x.com/David_Grid   Sean Farrell, Fundstrat Global Advisors - https://x.com/SeanMFarrell      Guest  Jansen Teng, Virtuals Protocol   X - https://x.com/ethermage  LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jansenteng/     Production and editing by The Podcast Consultant  - https://thepodcastconsultant.com/

    1h 17m
  7. Medici Level Up with Marcin Kazmierczak, Co-Founder of RedStone

    11/26/2025

    Medici Level Up with Marcin Kazmierczak, Co-Founder of RedStone

    In this episode of Level Up, David and Sean speak with Marcin Kaźmierczak, co-founder of RedStone Finance. They explore RedStone’s modular oracle architecture, its staking model as an EigenLayer AVS, and how the team is positioning across DeFi and institutional markets. Marcin walks through the business model, token utility, and RedStone’s approach to gaining market share in the decentralized oracle space. The conversation also covers near-term catalysts, including RedStone’s acquisition of Credora, its expansion into DeFi risk ratings, and a forthcoming historical data product. View the Full Level Up Podcast Disclaimer Here: https://level-up-podcast-disclaimer.super.site/  Key Points From This Episode: [00:00:00] Introduction to RedStone as a modular oracle and its competitors [00:01:18] Overview of how oracles connect off-chain data to blockchains [00:03:26] RedStone’s market position compared to Chainlink and Pyth [00:06:32] Modular architecture as a differentiator for RedStone [00:07:41] RedStone’s price feed coverage and use cases in tokenized assets [00:08:21] AVS and staking through EigenLayer for data integrity [00:10:40] RedStone’s clients and token utility [00:15:11] Marcin’s background and the origin story of RedStone [00:20:02] Push vs. pull models in oracle design and customer responsiveness [00:26:50] Main products, customers, and fast deployment advantages [00:31:49] Technical and cost differences in push and pull models [00:36:34] Revenue model and how it compares to Chainlink and Pyth [00:43:37] Breakdown of what revenue goes to RedStone vs. token holders [00:50:14] KPIs to track: clients, TVS, and chain support [00:52:41] How RedStone aims to capture more oracle market share [00:56:45] Token supply, staking, and value capture strategy [01:00:49] Implementation of slashing and RedStone’s security track record [01:04:14] Governance structure and the role of the Swiss association [01:06:56] Catalysts: Credora acquisition and historical data product launch [01:11:20] Targeting institutions with data and risk-rated DeFi strategies [01:12:19] Market risks in DeFi and curator-led vault issues [01:15:46] Final thoughts on RedStone’s transparency and growth outlook Links:  The Medici Network: https://www.medici.network/   Podcast Site: https://levelup.medici.network/     Interested in being a Guest? Connect with Elmira on X: https://x.com/elmira_yilham     Co-Hosts  David Grider, Finality Capital - https://x.com/David_Grid  Sean Farrell, Fundstrat Global Advisors - https://x.com/SeanMFarrell    Guests  Marcin Kaźmierczak, RedStone X - https://x.com/MarcinRedStone  LinkedIn -  https://ch.linkedin.com/in/marcin-kazmierczak1   Production and editing by The Podcast Consultant  - https://thepodcastconsultant.com/

    1h 20m
  8. Medici Level Up with Nick White, COO of Celestia

    11/12/2025

    Medici Level Up with Nick White, COO of Celestia

    In this episode of Level Up, David and Sean are joined by Nick White, COO and founding team member of Celestia. Nick shares how Celestia is building a modular blockchain architecture that separates execution, settlement, and data availability to scale Web3 applications. The discussion explores Celestia’s growth strategy, competitive positioning, and the evolving data availability landscape – including insights on throughput, token economics, revenue, and adoption trends.      View the Full Level Up Podcast Disclaimer Here: https://level-up-podcast-disclaimer.super.site/     Key Points From This Episode:  [00:00:00] Intro  [00:01:25] Introduction to Celestia and its market position  [00:02:19] Monolithic vs. modular blockchain architecture  [00:05:19] Ethereum fee evolution and Celestia’s comparative model  [00:07:51] Revenue sources and early usage metrics for Celestia  [00:09:22] Supply-side challenges and unlock schedule implications  [00:11:28] Market comps and the state of data availability competitors  [00:14:10] Investment thesis for data availability expansion  [00:16:04] Introduction to Nick White and his background  [00:18:32] The modular thesis and architectural vision  [00:20:55] Celestia as AWS for blockchains  [00:23:40] Transaction flow in Celestia vs. traditional blockchains  [00:27:21] Landscape of DA providers and Celestia’s position  [00:31:33] Use cases where Celestia outperforms Ethereum  [00:35:19] Celestia’s pricing strategy and block space cost structure  [00:39:24] Key performance indicators and growth tracking  [00:43:44] Current customers and usage pipeline  [00:47:42] Revenue potential at 1 million TPS  [00:50:04] Tokenomics: TIA’s role in staking and future fee capture  [00:54:38] Addressing the DA-as-commodity argument  [01:02:37] Timeline and governance for future pricing power  [01:06:59] Celestia Labs and Foundation roles  [01:07:53] Institutional backers and unlock schedule  [01:12:41] Validator incentives under new inflation models  [01:14:04] Risks and adoption catalysts moving forward  [01:18:56] Final reflections on Celestia’s vision and crypto’s future    Links:   The Medici Network: https://www.medici.network/    Podcast Site: https://levelup.medici.network/       Interested in being a Guest? Connect with Elmira on X: https://x.com/elmira_yilham       Co-Hosts   David Grider, Finality Capital: https://x.com/David_Grid   Sean Farrell, Fundstrat Global Advisors: https://x.com/SeanMFarrell      Guests   Nick White, Celestia:  X: https://x.com/nickwh8te  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nickwh8te    Production and editing by The Podcast Consultant  - https://thepodcastconsultant.com/

    1h 22m
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Presented by the Medici Network, Level Up is the premier podcast for institutional investors navigating liquid token markets. Hosts David Grider from Finality Capital and Sean Farrell from Fundstrat sit down with top protocol founders and crypto-native fund managers to cut through the noise. Each episode unpacks token economics, adoption trends, valuation frameworks, and key risks—giving you the insights to stay ahead in the evolving digital asset landscape.

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    The Medici Network
  • Years Active
    2025 - 2026
  • Episodes
    23
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