It Was What It Was : The Football History Podcast

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Welcome to The Overlap's football history podcast, It Was What It Was. Each week Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper will be talking about the key episodes in football history that have shaped the footballing world. The show will be discussing the best stories from football's past, giving insights to the personalities involved. the tales from behind the scenes and the impact they left. Join us at Football University! If you enjoy the podcast please hit subscribe to never miss an episode. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

  1. 9小时前

    How Data Won the Premier League: Liverpool and the Rise of Modern Metrics | Part Two

    Welcome to It Was What It Was, the football history podcast. In this second part on data in football, co-hosts Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper continue their exploration into how data analytics transformed modern football. This episode delves into Liverpool's remarkable journey using data and how it helped them to win the Champions League in 2019 and the Premier League in 2020. We take a look at the story behind key figures like Ian Graham and Michael Edwards, exploring their early skepticism, the challenges they faced, and the groundbreaking decisions that followed. Discover how Liverpool's recruitment strategy evolved with data, featuring key transfers such as Sadio Mané, Mohamed Salah, and Andy Robertson. Discover the tensions and synergies between data-driven decisions and traditional football instincts that reshaped Liverpool and influenced their remarkable success under Jürgen Klopp. 00:44 The Role of Data in Football 02:00 Key Figures: Ian Graham and Michael Edwards 03:17 Michael Edwards' Journey 07:18 Early Skepticism and Challenges 12:39 Liverpool's Data Revolution 14:54 Transfer Market Strategies 18:35 Cultural Clashes and Successes 26:24 Ian Graham's Role in Liverpool's Data Revolution 27:42 The Transfer Committee's Struggles and Criticisms 30:23 Jurgen Klopp's Introduction to Data Analytics 35:49 The Impact of Data on Key Signings 42:12 The Evolution and Challenges of Data-Driven Decisions 44:43 The Future of Data in Football 51:47 Conclusion Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    53 分钟

  2. 10月28日

    How Data Won the Premier League: Liverpool and the Rise of Modern Metrics | Part One

    Welcome to It Was What It Was, the football history podcast. This week co-hosts Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper are joined by journalist, broadcaster and author of 'Expected Goals: The story of how data conquered football and changed the game' Rory Smith. In today’s episode we explore the fascinating journey of data analytics in football. From the early days of Charles Reep and Valeriy Lobanovskyi's basic data collection to the revolutionary 1990s that saw a surge in clubs like Liverpool using a data-driven approach under Ian Graham and Michael Edwards to lead to Premier League success. We also look at how clubs like Bolton Wanderers under Sam Allardyce leveraged data to gain a competitive edge and and the cultural shift towards data in football management. Tune in to understand how data played a crucial role in some of the greatest footballing successes of the modern era. 00:00 Introduction and Welcoming Rory Smith 00:42 The Evolution of Data in Football 01:29 The Role of Data Collectors 05:04 Prozone and Early Data Pioneers 11:17 The Culture War: Nerds vs. Scouts 12:17 Sam Allardyce: The Unlikely Data Advocate 23:32 Moneyball and Its Impact on Football 27:24 Decision Technology and Early Predictions 28:06 The Role of Data in Football Predictions 28:48 The Fink Tank Column and Its Impact 31:09 Spurs' Missed Opportunity with Data 32:56 Tottenham's Early Adoption of Data Analytics 41:11 Liverpool's Data-Driven Transformation 47:10 The Cultural Shift Towards Data in Football 58:44 The Importance of Communication in Data Utilisation 59:45 Conclusion  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    1 小时

  3. 10月21日

    Messi's Magic: Barcelona's Golden Era | Part Two

    Welcome to It Was What It Was, the football history podcast. In this second episode of a two-part special, co-hosts Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper continue their exploration of Lionel Messi's early years, focusing on his journey from 2005 to the cusp of greatness in 2008. This episode delves into pivotal moments such as Messi's breakthrough in Barcelona's first team, his dramatic red card on his Argentina debut, and his developing relationship with key figures like Ronaldinho. We take a look at Messi's significant impact in the Joan Gamper Trophy, his hat-trick against Real Madrid in the El Clásico, and his stunning solo goal against Getafe. The episode also sheds light on the internal struggles and political tensions within Argentina's national team during the 2006 World Cup, and the influence of Barcelona's management in shaping Messi's career path. Join us as explore the trials and triumphs that shaped Messi into one of football's greatest ever. 00:00 Introduction: Messi's Early Brilliance 00:40 Messi's Breakthrough in 2005 01:23 Homesickness 04:00 Argentina Debut: A Rocky Start 09:25 Barcelona's Dilemma 11:31 Rising Star: The Joan Gamper Trophy 13:52 Contract Negotiations and Transfer Rumors 17:34 Messi's Impact in La Liga and Champions League 25:29 Messi's Diet and Lifestyle Concerns 26:11 Injury Setback and Return to Training 27:26 Champions League Final Disappointment 31:22 World Cup 2006: Argentina's Journey 36:07 Quarter-Final Clash with Germany 42:25 Barcelona's Decline and Messi's Rise 46:57 Ronaldinho's Influence and Messi's Future 49:10 Conclusion and Future Prospects Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    50 分钟

  4. 10月14日

    Messi’s Magic: Barcelona’s Golden Era | Part One

    Welcome to It Was What It Was, the football history podcast. This week co-hosts Rob Draper and Jonathan Wilson delve into Lionel Messi's early years at Barcelona and his rise to stardom. They explore Messi's journey from his initial signing to the club in 2000 to the early recognition of his talent by notable figures like Ronaldinho. The episode highlights Messi's challenges, including his growth hormone treatment and cultural adjustments as a young Argentine in Spain. Key moments such as his interactions with future stars like Gerard Piqué, Cesc Fàbregas, as well as his significant contributions to Barcelona's youth and first teams, which are discussed in detail. This episode covers his early setbacks, first team debut, and eventual triumphs, culminating in his standout performance at the 2005 FIFA U20 World Cup. Join us as we uncover how Messi went from a promising youngster to an emerging superstar at Barcelona.  00:00 Introduction to the episode 00:40 Messi's Signing and Initial Challenges 01:15 Settling in Barcelona: Cultural and Personal Struggles 05:51 Integration and Early Successes 20:40 Political Chaos and Youth Team Dynamics 23:33 Messi's Rising Star and International Attention 27:06 First Impressions and Early Training 27:39 Debut and Initial Reactions 29:37 Contract Negotiations and Adjustments 32:48 National Team Dilemmas 38:31 Integration into Barcelona's First Team 46:27 Under-20 World Cup and Rising Stardom 51:18 Conclusion and Looking Ahead Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    52 分钟

  5. 10月7日

    Clough's Conquest: Forest's Rise to European Glory | Part Four

    In this episode of It Was What It Was, co-hosts Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper delve into the decline of Nottingham Forest following their European Cup victories. This final part of a four-part special looks at the financial turmoil, management struggles, and internal conflicts that marked the club's subsequent years. Join us as we discuss how the relationship between Brian Clough and Peter Taylor deteriorated, the club’s misjudged transfers, and the impact of Clough's growing dependence on alcohol. From the fallouts to the poignant departures, this episode covers the unraveling of a once-glorious team and the tragedy of a fractured partnership. 00:00 Financial Woes and Disappointment 00:50 The Decline Begins 02:32 Unraveling Behind the Scenes 04:18 Transfer Turmoil 09:24 Clough and Taylor's Strained Relationship 14:11 Financial Scandals and Internal Strife 18:05 The Breaking Point 29:03 Clough's Controversial Decisions 32:24 Financial Struggles and Player Transfers 37:18 Clough's Health and Alcohol Issues 45:02 The Breakup with Peter Taylor 48:20 Reflecting on Clough and Taylor's Legacy 51:29 Clough's Changing Management Style 53:43 The Greatest Achievement in European Football 55:28 Conclusion Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    56 分钟

  6. 9月30日

    Clough's Conquest: Forest's Rise to European Glory | Part Three

    In this episode of It Was What It Was, co-hosts Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper continue the story of Brian Clough’s Nottingham Forest, following on from their European Cup victory in the last episode. This third part of a four-part special covers the 1979-80 season, looking at how Forest overcame obstacles both on and off the pitch to claim their second successive European Cup. Within the season there are some highs and lows, from overcoming unexpected challenges, and navigating crucial European fixtures to dealing with internal instability and controversial management methods. From high-profile transfers to unforgettable European nights, tune in to discover how this extraordinary team went on to write another chapter in their illustrious history. 00:00 Introduction and Setting the Scene 01:03 Nottingham Forest's European Campaign Begins 01:28 Key Transfers and Management Decisions 07:47 Unexpected Challenges and Controversies 20:31 European Cup Quarter-Finals 28:52 The Importance of Team Camaraderie 30:19 Challenges and Strategies in European Matches 32:38 Player Management and Injuries 36:23 Prepping for the European Cup Final 42:49 The Final Match Against Hamburg 51:03 Post-Match Reflections and Legacy Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    56 分钟

  7. 9月23日

    Clough's Conquest: Forest's Rise to European Glory | Part Two

    In this episode of It Was What It Was, co-hosts Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper continue their deep dive into Brian Clough's transformative tenure at Nottingham Forest. This second part of a four-part special, captures the thrilling journey as Forest ventures into the European Cup, starting from their incredible 5-1 victory over AEK Athens and leading up to their historic final against Malmö. Expect to hear detailed anecdotes and insights revealing Clough's unique management style, key matches and significant strategic decisions, including the controversial but ultimately successful signing of Trevor Francis for a British record fee. Join us to explore how a team from the second division ascended to the pinnacle of European football. 00:28 Introduction to Nottingham Forest's European Journey 01:26 Forest's Rise to European Dominance 01:46 The Quest for the European Cup 03:36 Strategic Moves and Key Decisions 10:02 Facing Liverpool in the European Cup 12:42 The Tactical Genius of Clough and Taylor 26:17 The Aftermath and Moving Forward 26:38 Unbeaten Streak and Chairman Change 27:35 European Cup Drama: Forest vs. AEK Athens 28:19 Clough's Management Style and Larry Lloyd Incident 30:55 Training Anecdotes and Managerial Hypocrisy 37:39 Trevor Francis Joins Forest 40:51 League Cup Final and European Cup Quarter-Finals 42:25 Semi-Final Showdown Against Cologne 48:37 European Cup Final Against Malmö 55:27 Forest Crowned European Champions Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    56 分钟

  8. 9月16日

    Clough's Conquest: Forest's Rise to European Glory | Part One

    Welcome to It Was What It Was, the football history podcast. This week co-hosts Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper set the stage for Brian Clough’s remarkable journey to becoming manager of Nottingham Forest in this first part of a four-part-special. After his departure from Leeds, Clough takes on the challenge of revitalising a mid-table second division team into a team that dominates English and European football. Clough's reunion with assistant Peter Taylor plays a pivotal role as they sign key players like Peter Shilton and Kenny Burns. This episode looks at the early challenges faced, strategic player signings, and the pivotal moments that laid the groundwork for Nottingham Forest's incredible achievements. Join us as we set the stage for one of football's most astonishing success stories. 01:09 The Rise and Fall of Brian Clough 08:30 Clough's Early Struggles at Nottingham Forest 21:03 Clough's Confrontational Style 24:44 Building the Foundation for Success 27:07 The Clough-Taylor Partnership 27:39 Taylor's Reluctance and Reconciliation 28:52 Building a Winning Team 31:16 The Anglo-Scottish Cup Victory 33:37 Promotion to the Top Flight 34:43 Strengthening the Squad 36:33 Clough's England Manager Candidacy 42:11 A Defensive Strategy for Success 46:46 Winning the League and Beyond 52:15 Conclusion and Next Episode Teaser Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    53 分钟
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Welcome to The Overlap's football history podcast, It Was What It Was. Each week Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper will be talking about the key episodes in football history that have shaped the footballing world. The show will be discussing the best stories from football's past, giving insights to the personalities involved. the tales from behind the scenes and the impact they left. Join us at Football University! If you enjoy the podcast please hit subscribe to never miss an episode. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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