Midlife Mavens hosts Marci Burroughs and Carol O’Saben interview Vancouver naturopathic physician Heidi Lescanec about her “Pink Zones” concept, inspired by Blue Zones but focused on where women live the fullest, not the longest. Pink Zones are supportive environments—places, communities, or self-created conditions—where women thrive because surrounding conditions support wellbeing. Heidi describes seven pillars: cultural self-worth, systemic support, nervous system regulation, rooted nourishment, community and connection, ritual and meaning, and creative vitality. She shares practical examples such as making recurring social commitments, embracing creativity for delight rather than productivity, building daily “bookend” rituals (morning expressive writing and evening dry skin brushing), and improving nourishment by focusing on how we eat, including choosing easier-to-digest meals when time is limited. She also challenges myths that midlife is only decline or invisibility, emphasizing potential growth and power. 00:00 Pink Zones Concept 00:25 Podcast Intro Disclaimer 01:28 Meet Heidi Nik 03:53 What Are Pink Zones 05:07 Why Pink Zones Matter 06:44 Seven Pillars Overview 09:08 Creativity Legacy Connection 12:51 Build Your Pink Zone 14:23 Community Commitments 18:35 Mid Episode Therapy Plug 19:42 Rituals Bookends Practice 26:17 Nourishment How To Eat 31:06 Myths About Midlife 35:52 Wrap Up Resources 37:58 Final Outro Heidi’s website: www.thepinkzones.com/ The Pink Zones Longevity Pillars: Cultural Self-Worth: A woman’s internalized sense of value, dignity, and visibility–also shaped by how her culture reflects or diminishes her worth across her lifespan. Rooted Nourishment: Food, herbs, movement, and rest practices grounded in ancestral, intuitive wisdom–passed through generations as a form of embodied healing. Nervous System Regulation: Supporting calm, adaptability, and physiological safety through rest, rhythm, breath, and sensory practices–key to hormonal and emotional balance. Community and Connection: Intentionally cultivating female-centered support systems, mutual witnessing, and intergenerational bonds Systemic Support: Access to time, safety, money, healthcare, and equity–recognizing that wellness is shaped by structural conditions, not just personal habits Ritual and Meaning: Purposeful practices–daily, seasonal, spiritual, or ancestral–that root women in cycles, transitions, and belonging Creative Vitality: Creativity as a healing force–artistic, expressive, or playful practices that generate joy, identity, and renewal. Got a question or a suggestion for a future episode? Use our “Ask Us Anything” Form: https://forms.gle/3bo4KuaXfGxCUS9C9 If you are looking for a therapist and would like to reach out to Marci or Carol, take a look at their websites: Marci: https://www.marciburroughsphdcst.com Carol: https://www.drosaben.com Other therapist directories you can use to help you find therapy include: Psychology Today: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/th… Mental Health Match: https://mentalhealthmatch.com/ American Association of Sexuality Educators, Counselors and Therapists: https://aasect.org iTherapy: https://itherapy.com