Mind Gap

2 East 8th Productions
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For years Doug Cochrane and Justin Strandlund have been good friends and frequent improv partners. They share a love of debating any topic, although their discussions usually come back around to two things: movies and space. Their most infamous debate involved a 2 hour discussion (while at work) about the actual possibility of time travel and it's potential ramifications on mankind; this included a full diagram drawn on a wall-sized whiteboard. Time well spent. MindGap is what happens when they sit together in front of a microphone and press record.

  1. 20h ago

    Episode 548 - Unwritten Rules of Modern Etiquette That Make Absolutely Zero Sense

    Doug and Justin open with a question that immediately goes somewhere real: what is an unwritten rule of modern etiquette that you actively choose to ignore because it makes zero logical sense? Doug's answer is immediate and unapologetic. Three months salary for an engagement ring is a number a diamond company invented and everyone just accepted it. From there the conversation spirals into a full-scale examination of wedding culture that is equal parts frustrated and fair. From there the guys shift into movie talk. Doug gives his take on Spider-Man Brand New Day, then goes deep on Curry Barker's horror hit Obsession, currently streaming on Peacock, and the WWII weathermen drama Pressure starring Brendan Fraser and Andrew Scott. That leads into a comparison with other WWII films including Hacksaw Ridge and Fury. Then: the Urban Dictionary game returns for another round. This episode's terms include Chud Run, Industrial Strip, Lincoln Memorial, Big Jebediah Doink, and Birdbath. Justin's definitions are wrong in the most creative ways possible. Doug censors himself for the first time in 548 episodes while trying to string them all into a sentence. History is made. A tribute to Glenn Hansard, Irish musician and busker who passed away at 56 in a motorcycle accident. Justin shares what his music meant to him personally and why the world lost something genuinely good. This week's recommendations: Justin: Glenn Hansard. Go listen to his catalog. Any of it. As a thank you for the music and as an introduction if you have never heard him before. Doug: No Pressure. Pop punk band recommended by Austin Reno. Their LP NP Style is 10 songs and 21 minutes of exactly what you need. Reminds Doug of early Blink-182. Check it out wherever you stream music. Subscribe: youtube.com/mindgappodcast  Join the Discord: https://discord.gg/T3HwyEw5v7  Listen everywhere you get podcasts  Support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/mindgappodcast Merch on Redbubble: https://www.redbubble.com/shop/ap/67768184

  2. 20h ago ·  Bonus

    You Might Also Like: The Oprah Podcast

    Introducing We've Never Been Meaner. Here's Why. from The Oprah Podcast. Follow the show: The Oprah Podcast BUY THE BOOK! The Power of Us by Jay J. Van Bavel and Dominic J. Packer https://amzn.to/4ch3Y23 Do you feel like people have become meaner and ruder recently? Does it sometimes feel like civility has left the building? If you feel that way, you are not alone. A recent study found that 53% of Americans believe society is uncivil while more than a third say they almost always or often see people behaving rudely when they go out in public. To get to the bottom of why this is happening and what we can do about it Oprah sits down with Dr. Jay Van Bavel who is a professor of psychology and neuroscience at New York University, and the director of the NYU Center for Conflict and Cooperation. He's also the coauthor of The Power of Us: Harnessing our Shared Identities to Improve Performance, Increase Cooperation, and Promote Social Harmony. Dr. Jay breaks down what is causing this rise in incivility and shares some ideas about how we can all do better. Oprah and Dr. Jay are also joined by a flight attendant, an emergency medicine doctor, a fast food worker, a barista and several influencers who talk about the extreme levels of rudeness they have experienced at work and online. 00:00:00 - Oprah and why did we get so mean? 00:03:50 - Welcome Dr. Jay Van Bavel author of “The Power of Us” 00:05:20 - How our environment makes us meaner 00:10:30 - How AI harms our relationships 00:12:00 - Why are people mean on planes? 00:14:00 - Flight attendant Cher shares 00:17:30 - What can we do everyday? 00:19:30 - The most dangerous profession 00:24:50 - Is reality TV normalizing bad behavior? 00:26:33 - We are in this together 00:28:00 - When you’re the target of anger 00:30:00 - Dealing with confrontation 00:33:40 - Impatience and meanness 00:35:30 - Dealing with mean comments 00:39:50 - Oprah reading negative letters 00:45:50 - Can things change? Follow Oprah Winfrey on Social: https://www.instagram.com/oprahpodcast/ https://www.facebook.com/oprahwinfrey/ Listen to the full podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/0tEVrfNp92a7lbjDe6GMLI https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-oprah-podcast/id1782960381 DISCLAIMER: Please note, this is an independent podcast episode not affiliated with, endorsed by, or produced in conjunction with the host podcast feed or any of its media entities. The views and opinions expressed in this episode are solely those of the creators and guests. For any concerns, please reach out to team@podroll.fm.

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  3. Jul 31

    Episode 547 - Christopher Nolan's The Odyssey Is Cinema at Its Finest

    Doug saw The Odyssey on opening weekend. Justin saw it the following Wednesday in IMAX 70mm. They both walked out saying the same thing: that is cinema at its finest. The full review is here. Justin's IMAX 70mm experience gets the full breakdown first. Every frame deliberately composed, the sheer amount of visual information on screen, the walk back to see the giant film spools running the projector. Then the film itself: what Nolan got right about scale, spectacle, and practical effects. The Cyclops was built using a combination of a massive puppet for the actors to work around and a real actor in full prosthetics and makeup on a scaled-down set, composited together the old-school way. The giants were played by actual seven-foot-tall people standing next to a stunt double under five feet tall. No CGI shortcut. No painted-in crowd. A thousand extras on the day they shot the Land of the Dead. Jon Bernthal in the water for half a day, approaching hypothermia, refusing to come out until they had the shot. Also in this episode: a significant announcement. Mind Gap Podcast is ending at Episode 550. Doug and Justin have been at this for eleven years and have decided Episode 550 is the right place to close the chapter. The Discord will remain active. The community is not going anywhere. But the podcast wraps in a few episodes. They discuss what the community has meant to them and why finding that group of people has been one of the best things to come out of eleven years of doing this. Before all that: at what age do you stop using familial titles like aunt and uncle? Doug does not have aunts, uncles, grandparents, or cousins, so the answer for him is immediate. Justin is forty-three and still says Uncle Mike. Also: Hooters is examined as a business model in the current era and found to be of questionable viability. Then: a deep dive into the Book of the Dead LitRPG series by RynoZ, which Doug is now three books into and cannot stop recommending. The world-building concept is that at age eighteen you put your hand on a stone and get assigned your permanent class, whether that is a farmer, a bard, an accountant, or a banned necromancer on the run from the government. This leads to a conversation about what class each host would want to be awakened into. Doug says cook. Justin says Urban Explorer, which is not a real class in the book but seems accurate. The Urban Dictionary game returns. This round covers Mickey Mousing, Eternity Leave, Werewolf's Dick, and Ottawa Spaghetti. Justin gets closer than expected on most of them. Ottawa Spaghetti takes a turn. This week's recommendations: Justin: The Odyssey. See it in the theater. See it in IMAX if you can. When it comes home it will still be great but feel it on a big screen first. Doug: Monsters Are Coming on Steam. Tower defense slash vampire survivors hybrid. Four dollars on sale. Highly addictive. Do not sleep on it.   Subscribe: youtube.com/mindgappodcast  Join the Discord: https://discord.gg/T3HwyEw5v7  Listen everywhere you get podcasts  Support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/mindgappodcast Merch on Redbubble: https://www.redbubble.com/shop/ap/67768184

  4. Jul 24

    Episode 546 - We Watched the Avengers Doomsday Trailer: Is Marvel Back on Track?

    The Avengers Doomsday trailer dropped this week and Doug has already watched it four times. The full reaction is here: what landed, what it means for the MCU, why the Russos coming back gives genuine reason for optimism, and why Thor not cracking a single joke in the entire trailer is one of the most promising signs this movie is going somewhere real. The biggest moments get the full breakdown. Captain America's return and the Mjolnir handoff. RDJ as Doctor Doom and the most logical in-universe explanation for why he looks exactly like Tony Stark. The Loki TVA card and whether the average viewer has any idea what that means. Shang-Chi showing up despite not appearing in a single piece of Marvel content since 2021. The Fantastic Four's involvement. Gambit getting a moment that made a 10-year-old lose her mind. And the theory that this film is essentially Marvel's version of Secret Wars, a way of pruning timelines, retiring legacy characters, and rebooting the X-Men in a way that actually makes sense. Speaking of the X-Men, Doug and Natalie watched all five original Fox X-Men films over the weekend specifically to prepare for Doomsday. The full post-mortem covers everything the franchise got wrong: Wolverine was never supposed to be the main character, Cyclops got done catastrophically dirty across every single film, Rogue never threw one punch in three movies, the X-Men never once fought as a team despite that being their entire thing, and Hugh Jackman looked completely fine in the year 2000 and we as a society did something terrible to that man over the next 24 years. Before all that: a Reddit question about socially acceptable life choices that are actually kind of insane when you sit with them. Spending money you don't have to impress people you don't like. Working five days a week just to get two days of freedom. Choosing your entire career path when you are 17 years old. Sports fanaticism and the double standard that exists between jersey-wearing adults and anyone who shows up to a convention. Gambling, specifically the rise of sports betting apps and why that cottage industry is genuinely sinister. Posting everything on social media compulsively. And the hokey pokey. The Urban Dictionary game returns. This round covers Gert, Yop, Opstopper, Cap-tain, Gup, and Poo Shuttling. Justin's definition of Poo Shuttling involves Colorado, underground pipe hacking, and a thriving East Coast black market. It is not correct. It is significantly better than correct. This week's recommendations: Justin: Good Luck Have Fun Don't Die (Hulu/Disney+). Sam Rockwell is extraordinary. Zazzy Beetz, Michael Pena, Juno Temple, Haley Lou Richardson. Weird, funny, and not far off from where we are headed. The third act gets away from itself slightly but the film is absolutely worth your time. Doug: The Long Walk (HBO). Stephen King adaptation. Dystopian future. 50 boys from 50 states walk until one is left alive. Dark as hell. Completely enthralling. Not a pick-me-upper. Go watch it. Subscribe: youtube.com/mindgappodcast  Join the Discord: https://discord.gg/T3HwyEw5v7  Listen everywhere you get podcasts  Support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/mindgappodcast Merch on Redbubble: https://www.redbubble.com/shop/ap/67768184

  5. Jul 17

    Episode 545 - Doug's Daughter Binged the Hunger Games and Focused on All the Wrong Things

    Doug's daughter watched all four Hunger Games films in the span of about a week, and her takeaways were something else entirely. During the emotional final scene of Mockingjay Part Two, while Katniss and Peeta are shown living out a quiet life with their children, her primary concern was the gender of a background baby who has approximately three seconds of screen time and zero bearing on anything. She also forgot what propaganda meant two minutes after Doug explained it, needed a full pause-and-debrief when Johanna Mason got naked in an elevator, and spent a significant portion of Catching Fire asking questions that the movie was about to answer on its own. Doug is coping. The full debrief covers what she liked, what confused her, what she's going to ask about Se7en when the time comes ("What's lust, Dad?"), and the ever-growing list of films Doug is planning to work through with her next. Jaws, the full X-Men series, Knives Out, and eventually Deadpool when she's old enough to understand the references. Before that: the episode opens with a butthole tattoo guessing game where each host picks which of six illustrated designs they would choose, and Doug correctly identifies Justin's pick on the first try. Many Sublime songs are workshopped for thematic accuracy. Several are surprisingly applicable. Justin explains why the Sublime Sun is the objectively correct answer and cannot be argued with. Then: two embarrassing social moments that have been living rent free. Doug told his daughter's softball coach "I walk by your house all the time" while shaking his hand goodbye and has spent 48 hours replaying it. Justin misunderstood his neighbor's yard waste bin request, said "anytime buddy," walked inside, closed the door, and watched from the window as his neighbor retrieved the bin himself. Neither man will be recovering soon. Also: Marvel Rivals gave Captain America a summer skin with a historically significant bulge that had to be patched. Doug pulls up the before photo for viewers. It is substantial. The word "nerfed" was used in a sentence and everyone understood what it meant. Then the new game: Doug pulls Urban Dictionary terms including Canon Event, 404 Coded, Soft Blocking IRL, Noodle Groove, and Oil Up, and Justin has to figure out what they mean. Justin's definition of Noodle Groove involves falling asleep face down on sand and being dragged by his friends. It is not correct. It is better. This week's recommendations: Justin — Project Hail Mary (HBO Max). Not the movie he expected going in. Fantastic anyway. Go watch it immediately. Doug — Book of the Dead by Ringo Z. A LitRPG series about an 18-year-old given the outlawed Necromancer class at his awakening ceremony, now on the run from authorities while learning dark magic alone. Five books in the series. Doug finished book one and immediately started book two. Subscribe: youtube.com/mindgappodcast  Join the Discord: https://discord.gg/T3HwyEw5v7  Listen everywhere you get podcasts  Support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/mindgappodcast Merch on Redbubble: https://www.redbubble.com/shop/ap/67768184

  6. Jul 3

    Episode 544 - Avengers Doomsday, The Odyssey & Every Movie We're Losing Our Minds Over Right Now

    Justin has one free movie pass left before the month ends and needs to use it tonight,  so Doug helps him choose between Supergirl, Disclosure Day, and Masters of the Universe. This somehow turns into a 45-minute deep dive on everything happening in Hollywood right now, and honestly, it's one of the best movie conversations they've had in a while. First: the online hate for Supergirl is examined, dissected, and found to be exactly what everyone already knows it is. Same goes for the discourse around casting in The Odyssey, the Little Mermaid live action, and Dune. The pattern is not subtle and Doug has words. Then things get genuinely interesting. Christopher Nolan's The Odyssey is coming and Doug is all the way in — Greek mythology, massive ensemble cast (Matt Damon, Zendaya, Tom Holland, Anne Hathaway, Robert Pattinson, Charlize Theron, Jon Bernthal, Elliott Page), and the first narrative film ever shot entirely on IMAX cameras. The IMAX conversation goes somewhere unexpected. Spider-Man Brand New Day gets the full breakdown: the Punisher's role, what the One Last Kill special means for his arc, and why having Frank Castle in a PG-13 Spider-Man movie is either brilliant or insane depending on how you look at it. Then: Avengers Doomsday. Are Doug and Justin cautiously optimistic or quietly terrified? Both. RDJ as Doctor Doom, the Jonathan Majors pivot, what the comics actually did with colliding dimensions, and why the Magneto limited series is the template they should be following. Plus, Marvel forgot Shang-Chi exists. It has been four years. Someone needs to answer for this. Also: Jared Leto — what happened? A genuine conversation about acting as a craft, why celebrity corrupts the thing that made people good at it, and how a handcrafted maple dresser at a consignment store connects to all of it somehow. Then: Doug and Justin review Backrooms (A24). Justin gives it three stars. Doug is closer to three and a half. They agree the production design is stunning, the acting is strong, the jump scares land, and the story leaves too many character motivations unresolved. A making-of documentary is urgently needed. Also also: Million Dollar Nannies on Hulu is a show that exists. Beth found it. They did not make it past the intro. And a brief, uncomfortable look at Love Island, reality TV, and why some people unwind by watching train wrecks. Movie audio clip guessing game: Justin goes three for three on Hook, Elvis (Baz Luhrmann), and Ace Ventura: Pet Detective — including a line from Ace Ventura that lands very differently as an adult than it did at age ten. This week's recommendations: Justin — Backrooms (A24). Not perfect, but worth seeing. The environment alone justifies the ticket price. Doug — Mecha Chameleon on Steam. Six dollars. Prop hunt where you paint yourself to blend into the scenery. Alpaca wants a professional digital artist league. We're here for it.   Subscribe: youtube.com/mindgappodcast  Join the Discord: https://discord.gg/T3HwyEw5v7  Listen everywhere you get podcasts  Support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/mindgappodcast Merch on Redbubble: https://www.redbubble.com/shop/ap/67768184

  7. Jun 26

    Episode 543 - Doug's Been Waiting 10 Years to Show His Daughter The Dark Knight. It Finally Happened.

    It's one of the greatest films ever made. Doug has seen it more times than he can count. And for years, he's been waiting for the moment his daughter was ready. This Father's Day weekend, it happened, but not before they worked their way through Batman Begins first. The Batman Begins debrief alone is worth the price of admission: Natalie still doesn't understand why Bruce Wayne's parents had to die and genuinely wondered whether Batman was going to kill Rachel and Alfred in the film. She also thought that Batman can, apparently, talk to bats. Then came The Dark Knight. Doug prepped her on the Joker's philosophy, the importance of Batman's no-kill rule, and the practical effects behind the hospital explosion, which Doug and Jill actually witnessed being filmed when they lived downtown Chicago. Natalie handled the pencil scene with more composure than expected. She processed the ferry sequence. She understood the stakes, and spent the entire climax waiting for Bane to show up. And when it was over, she looked at her dad and said: "I see why you like it." Ten years. Worth every second. Also this episode: a genuinely great question — if you could go back to high school or college and take one class again with everything you know now, which class would you choose? Justin picks social studies, psychology, astronomy, and a very specific European history class he completely wasted. Doug picks management 101 with a professor he truly despised and would absolutely challenge every single day, and seventh grade PE, where his coach regularly called him names that would end careers today. Plot twist: years later, that same coach applied for a job at Doug's brother's school. Doug's brother said no. Justice is real. Plus: a dump truck parked in front of a blind hill with "Trust in the Lord" written on the back, Jesus as a Marvel Rivals support player, and Meccha Chameleon — a $6 Steam prop hunt game where you paint yourself to blend into the scenery and it is immediately one of the best six dollars Doug has ever spent. Justin needs a PC. Doug has thoughts. The movie audio clip guessing game returns with quotes from Wall Street, The Big Short, and The Golden Child including one of the most specific movie pulls in the history of this show. This week's recommendations: 🎬 Justin — Pressure (2025). Andrew Scott, Brendan Fraser, Damian Lewis. A WWII film about the meteorologist who had to get the D-Day weather right. You know how it ends and it still keeps you on the edge of your seat. That's the mark of great filmmaking. 📺 Doug — Watchmen (HBO). Nine episodes. Genuinely one of the best limited series ever made. Also the first time Doug learned about the 1921 Tulsa Massacre, which tells you everything about the American education system. Subscribe: youtube.com/mindgappodcast  Join the Discord: https://discord.gg/T3HwyEw5v7  Listen everywhere you get podcasts  Support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/mindgappodcast Merch on Redbubble: https://www.redbubble.com/shop/ap/67768184

  8. Jun 19

    Episode 542 - If You Could Call Yourself 10 Years Ago for 60 Seconds, What Would You Say?

    Just 60 seconds. One phone call to your past self. What do you say? Doug's answer is immediate and unapologetic: buy Bitcoin. Justin agrees — and then they both go deeper than expected, landing on advice that's somehow funnier and more meaningful than any financial tip: walk more, stop shaving everything off, brace for the subscription apocalypse, and enjoy social media while you still can because it is about to get a lot worse. The conversation spirals into a genuine reflection on June 2016 — what life looked like before the darkest timeline arrived, before every business demanded an app download, and before two-factor authentication became a personality trait. Plus: Doug makes a passionate, sincere case for mobile ordering as the single greatest innovation of the last decade. He's not wrong. Then things get messier. Doug ripped a significant fart at grocery store self-checkout and had a moment of clarity about it. He also sat Natalie down to explain something important about her school's girl squad — specifically that every single one of them takes painful s***s, and they are not better than her. Justin tells the story of Benny and the Birds — a harrowing account of his dog chasing a fledgling robin while an increasingly large coalition of robins, finches, a starling, and a squirrel formed a perimeter and launched a coordinated aerial assault. They have maintained that perimeter for four days. Justin cannot use his own backyard. Doug responds with his own bird story: Bruno has now claimed his third life, this time on a Michigan rental property, approximately 30 seconds after Doug told Natalie that nature is brutal and you simply have to accept it. Then: Doug takes Justin to Korean BBQ and hot pot for the first time. Justin immediately eats a large slice of raw pork belly with complete confidence. It tastes great. They use every second of their 90-minute window and already have a game plan for the next visit. Some food poisoning anxiety. No actual regrets. The movie audio clip guessing game returns. Justin picks three of seven clips and must identify the film from the quote alone. This round covers Aliens ("They mostly come at night. Mostly."), Donnie Brasco, and Lucky Number Slevin — and the one-legged man line lands exactly as hard as Doug hoped it would. This week's recommendations: Justin — Obsession (2025). Corey Barker made this horror film for $750K. It has since grossed over $250 million. A unique concept, edge-of-your-seat tension, and the kind of filmmaking that gets a 26-year-old handed the Texas Chainsaw Massacre reboot without blinking. Go support it.   Doug — The Wire (HBO). Five seasons. Rewatched it. Still one of the best shows ever made. Young Idris Elba, young Michael B. Jordan, and the most honest portrait of policing, crime, and politics ever put on television. A commitment worth making.   Subscribe: youtube.com/mindgappodcast  Join the Discord: https://discord.gg/T3HwyEw5v7  Listen everywhere you get podcasts  Support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/mindgappodcast Merch on Redbubble: https://www.redbubble.com/shop/ap/67768184

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For years Doug Cochrane and Justin Strandlund have been good friends and frequent improv partners. They share a love of debating any topic, although their discussions usually come back around to two things: movies and space. Their most infamous debate involved a 2 hour discussion (while at work) about the actual possibility of time travel and it's potential ramifications on mankind; this included a full diagram drawn on a wall-sized whiteboard. Time well spent. MindGap is what happens when they sit together in front of a microphone and press record.

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  • Creator
    2 East 8th Productions
  • Years Active
    2015 - 2026
  • Episodes
    549
  • Rating
    Explicit
  • Show Website
    Mind Gap