Mise en Screen

Ben Verschoor & Steven Santana

Each episode Ben Verschoor and Steven Santana will talk about a contemporary release and then two related repertory screenings. The relation can be as thin as possible or explicitly obvious.

  1. 1d ago

    The End of Oak Street Review & Discussion

    The End of Oak Street is a sci-fi adventure film written and directed by David Robert Mitchell. It stars Ann Hathaway and Ewan McGregor as Denise and Greg Platt, a seemingly idyllic 1980s suburban couple whose marriage behind the scenes is falling apart and beginning to affect their children, thirteen year-old Brian and seventeen year-old Audrey, played by Christian Convery and Maisy Stella, respectively. When their neighborhood is suddenly transplanted into prehistoric times they are forced to come together and survive, lest they be eaten by the period's carnivorous megafauna. Timestamps: (0:05:49) Under the Silver Lake  (0:30:09) Primitive War (0:53:08) The End of Oak Street (1:48:40) Spoilers (2:32:36) Next time: Tony & Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma & Gotti (2018) Works Cited: The Budget For The Dinosaur Movie Primitive War Is Shockingly Low [Exclusive] - SlashFilm (Ryan Scott, 2025) The End of Oak Street (David Robert Mitchell, 2026) The End of Oak Street | Dinopedia The End of Oak Street review (Zachary Lee, 2026) Ewan McGregor spills on 'The End of Oak Street' ending you didn't see (Brian Truitt, 2026) A Farewell Preserved on Film: Late Teen Actor Hudson Meek Makes His Final On-Screen Appearance in 'The End of Oak Street' Nearly Two Years After Tragic Death (Sylvia Aderonke, 2026) Inherent Vice (Paul Thomas Anderson, 2014) It Follows (David Robert Mitchell, 2014) Jupiter Ascending Original Motion Picture Soundtrack (Michael Giacchino, 2016) Jurassic Park (Steven Spielberg, 1993) Jurassic Park III (Joe Johnston, 2003) Interview: 'Primitive War' Director Luke Sparke Talks Behind the Scenes - Kaiju United (Jacob Lyngle, 2024) The Myth of the American Sleepover (David Robert Mitchell, 2010) Primitive War (Luke Sparke, 2025) Saving Private Ryan (Steven Spielberg, 1998) Southland Tales (Richard Kelly, 2006) Under the Silver Lake (David Robert Mitchell, 2018) Warner Bros. Stirs Controversy After Posting 'Embarrassing' AI Dog Podcast for The End of Oak Street (Michael Cripe, 2026) The Year's Best Family Film Is About Bloodthirsty Dinosaurs (Anthony Breznican, 2026) Email us at Miseenscreenpodcast@gmail.com! Find us elsewhere! Ben Verschoor https://cinema-purgatorio.ghost.io/ https://letterboxd.com/jamn4sure/  @benverschoor.bsky.social https://swvadcta.org/  Steven Santana https://breakingarrows.ghost.io/ https://letterboxd.com/number8axel/  @number8axel.bsky.social‬ Opening music is "Root Beer Rag" by Billy Joel Closing music is "G-Spot Tornado" by Frank Zappa Subscribe, rate and review us! Apple Podcasts: Mise en Screen - Podcast - Apple Podcasts Spotify Podcasts: Mise en Screen | Podcast on Spotify Player.fm: Mise En Screen podcast Podcast Addict: Mise en Screen - Podcast Addict

  2. Aug 13

    Nirvanna The Band The Show The Movie Review & Discussion

    Nirvanna the Band The Show the Movie is a 2025 comedy film directed by Matt Johnson, written by Johnson and Jay McCarrol, and starring Johnson and McCarrol as fictionalized versions as themselves as they continue to try and finagle at playing a gig at The Rivoli. McCarrol becomes tired of Johnson's constantly ludicrous plots and failures and attempts to go solo, but a bottle of Orbitz powering Johnson's recreation of the flux capacitor sends them back to 2008 with great consequences for their timeline. Timestamps: (0:02:51) Curse of the Puppet Master (0:25:42) Tenet (0:50:01) Obsession (1:03:22) Nirvanna the Band The Show the Movie (1:28:49) Spoilers (1:52:32) Next time: The End of Oak Street Works Cited: Back to the Future (Robert Zemeckis, 1985) "Bob" (Weird Al Yankovic, 2012) Calvin & Hobbes (Bill Watterson, 1985-1995) Curse of the Puppet Master (David DeCoteau, 1998) Nirvanna the Band the Show the Movie (Matt Johnson, 2025) Nirvanna the Band the Show the Movie: a gloriously silly time-travel comedy about friendship and creative ambition (Will Sloan, 2026) Nirvanna the Band the Show the Movie the Archival Experience – Animal Archaeology (Alex Fitzpatrick, 2026) Obsession (Curry Barker, 2026) 'Our characters like to be naughty': the makers of the Nirvanna mockumentary on illegal skydiving, taboo-breaking and time travel | Movies | The Guardian (Ryan Gilbey, 2026) Tenet (Christopher Nolan, 2020) 'Tenet' Is a Backward Movie for an Upside-Down World (Bilge Elbiri, 2024) Email us at Miseenscreenpodcast@gmail.com! Find us elsewhere! Ben Verschoor https://cinema-purgatorio.ghost.io/ https://letterboxd.com/jamn4sure/  @benverschoor.bsky.social https://swvadcta.org/  Steven Santana https://breakingarrows.ghost.io/ https://letterboxd.com/number8axel/  @number8axel.bsky.social‬ Opening music is "Root Beer Rag" by Billy Joel Closing music is "G-Spot Tornado" by Frank Zappa Subscribe, rate and review us! Apple Podcasts: Mise en Screen - Podcast - Apple Podcasts Spotify Podcasts: Mise en Screen | Podcast on Spotify Player.fm: Mise En Screen podcast Podcast Addict: Mise en Screen - Podcast Addict

  3. Aug 6

    The Invite Review & Discussion

    The Invite is a 2026 dramedy directed by Olivia Wilde, written by Will McCormack and Rashida Jones, remaking the 2020 Spanish film The People Upstairs or, Sentimental, in Spanish by Cesc Gay, which was in turn an adaptation of his play Els veïns de dalt / Los vecinos de arriba. The film stars Seth Rogan as Joe and Olivia Wilde as Angela, a couple whose marriage is on thin ice. When their upstairs neighbors Pina and Hawk, played by Penelope Cruz and Edward Norton, visit for a dinner party, the night spirals into unexpected places. Have they reignited the spark or lit the match that burns it all down? Timestamps: (0:02:58) 365 Days (0:36:33) My Dinner with Andre (0:58:58) Teorema (1:14:58) The Invite (1:40:17) Spoilers (2:01:39) Next time: Nirvanna the Band the Show the Movie & Curse of the Puppet Master Works Cited: 365 Days (Barbara Białowąs and Tomasz Mandes, 2020) '365 Days': Film Review (Jessica Kiang, 2020) Catholic Film Unit Withdraws Award Given to 'Teorama' - The New York Times Dialectical Smut-erialism (Ben Verschoor, 2025) Don't Worry Darling (Olivia Wilde, 2022) Everyone Is Beautiful and No One Is Horny - Blood Knife (RS Benedict, 2021) Fifty Shades of Grey (Sam Taylor-Johnson, 2015) Five films Gaspar Noé hates (Ros Tibbs, 2023) The Invite (Olivia Wilde, 2026) "The Invite" Movie Review | The New Yorker (Justin Chang, 2026) 'The Invite' review by Vincent Prince • Letterboxd 'The Invite' Review: Olivia Wilde's Group Sex Comedy Is a Surprising Oscar Contender | Them (Samantha Allen, 2026) ‎The Invite review: Olivia Wilde dramedy finds itself (Matt Zoller Seitz, 2026) My Dinner With Andre (Louis Malle, 1981) My Dinner With Andre movie review (Roger Ebert, 1981) Movies: Teorema (Paul Schrader, 2021) Seth Rogen on How Rich People Get Weird About Money | The Interview Teorema (Pier Paolo Pasolini, 1968) Twilight (Catherine Hardwicke, 2008) Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf? (Mike Nichols, 1966) WHY IS THIS DRACULA PORN SO POPULAR??? (18+ ONLY) Email us at Miseenscreenpodcast@gmail.com! Find us elsewhere! Ben Verschoor https://cinema-purgatorio.ghost.io/ https://letterboxd.com/jamn4sure/  @benverschoor.bsky.social https://swvadcta.org/  Steven Santana https://breakingarrows.ghost.io/ https://letterboxd.com/number8axel/  @number8axel.bsky.social‬ Opening music is "Root Beer Rag" by Billy Joel Closing music is "G-Spot Tornado" by Frank Zappa Subscribe, rate and review us! Apple Podcasts: Mise en Screen - Podcast - Apple Podcasts Spotify Podcasts: Mise en Screen | Podcast on Spotify Player.fm: Mise En Screen podcast Podcast Addict: Mise en Screen - Podcast Addict

  4. Jul 31

    Her Private Hell Review & Discussion

    Her Private Hell is the latest feature film from Nicolas Winding Refn, who wrote the story and co-wrote the screenplay with Esti Giordani. In the future a strange mist descends on a metropolis. Sophie Thatcher plays Elle, daughter to Dougray Scott's Johnny Thunders, who has recently married Elle's best friend Dominique, played by Havana Rose Liu. New in town is Kristine Froseth as Hunter, who joins Elle's sci-fi film's cast and becomes obsessed with the myth of the leatherman, a diamond gloved father who pursues his lost daughter and kills everyone who crosses his path. Alongside Elle's story is Private K, played by Chalres Melton, who also lost his daughter and battles Yakuza during his search for her. The pair each drift their way through the mist-covered city to obtain what they desire. Timestamps: (0:06:12) The End of Evangelion (0:41:08) Possessor (1:03:21) Her Private Hell (1:54:45) Next time: The Invite & 365 Days Works Cited: Drive (Nicholas Winding Refn, 2011) The End of Evangelion (Hideaki Anno, 1997) Evangelion 3+1: Thrice Upon a Time (Hideaki Anno, 2021) Formalities, Personalities, and Cultural Entropy (Ario Elami, 2024) Her Private Hell (Nicholas Winding Refn, 2026) ‎'Her Private Hell' review by HIGH PLAINS DANIEL • Letterboxd  'Her Private Hell' review by Srirachachau • Letterboxd   'Her Private Hell' Review: When Style Is Substance - WSJ (Kyle Smith, 2026) How Evangelion creator Hideaki Anno grappled with depression in anime (Aaron Stewart-Ahn, 2019) 【公式】『エヴァンゲリオン放送30周年記念特別興行』 The Neon Demon (Nicholas Winding Refn, 2016) One of the Most Controversial Anime Ever Comes to Streaming for the First Time (David Schindell, 2019) Only God Forgives (Nicholas Winding Refn, 2013) Only God Forgives - Movie Review : Alternate Ending (Tim Brayton, 2013) Possessor (Brandon Cronenberg, 2020) Review: Hot faces fill the erotic thriller 'Her Private Hell,' but the plot is never in focus (Amy Nicholson, 2026) ✨See You in New York✨ @Prada With @Kojima_Hideo @kuhlandhan @camsugarmusic Too Old to Die Young (2019) (Andrew Milne, 2026) Wes Anderson est dans le Vidéo Club de légende pour parler cinéma 🔥 William Friedkin destroys Nicolas Winding Refn Email us at Miseenscreenpodcast@gmail.com! Find us elsewhere! Ben Verschoor https://cinema-purgatorio.ghost.io/ https://letterboxd.com/jamn4sure/  @benverschoor.bsky.social https://swvadcta.org/  Steven Santana https://breakingarrows.ghost.io/ https://letterboxd.com/number8axel/  @number8axel.bsky.social‬ Opening music is "Root Beer Rag" by Billy Joel Closing music is "G-Spot Tornado" by Frank Zappa Subscribe, rate and review us! Apple Podcasts: Mise en Screen - Podcast - Apple Podcasts Spotify Podcasts: Mise en Screen | Podcast on Spotify Player.fm: Mise En Screen podcast Podcast Addict: Mise en Screen - Podcast Addict

  5. Jul 24

    The Odyssey Review & Discussion Part 2

    The Odyssey is director, writer, and producer Christopher Nolan's adaptation of the ancient Greek epic attributed to Homer. Here we follow Odysseus, king of Ithaca, played by Matt Damon, as he attempts to find his way home after the Trojan War. Awaiting his return are his wife Penelope and son Telemachus, played by Anne Hathaway and Tom Holland respectively, who must continually defer the queen's marriage to one of many suitors who are vying to be made king, such as Robert Pattinson's Antinous. Also appearing are John Leguizamo as Eumaeus the shepherd, Zendaya as the goddess Athena, Charlize Theron as Calypso, Himseh Patel as Eurylochus, Elliot Page as Sinon, Lupita Nyong'o in a dual role as Helen of Troy and Clytemnestra, Samantha Morton as Circe, and Benny Safdie as Agamemnon. Timestamps: (0:01:33) Spoilers (1:36:33) Next time: Her Private Hell Works Cited: Cartoon Network Groovies - Josie and the Pussycats - Musical Evolution Cartoon Network Groovies - "Jabberjaw" Christopher Nolan Breaks Down Every Format to Watch The Odyssey Christopher Nolan's Odyssey used occupied land as a film set. That feels like a betrayal | The Odyssey | The Guardian (Mohamed Sleiman Labat, 2026) Godspell (David Greene, 1973) Hercules (Brett Ratner, 2014) Hercules in New York (1969) - Movie Review : Alternate Ending  Hercules in New York (Arthur Allan Seidelman, 1970) Immortals Set a Gold Standard for Visual Stylists 10 Years Ago (Isaac Feldberg, 2022) The Life of the Mind - by Esther Rosenfield  No One Has Dealt With More Angry Odyssey Bros Than Emily Wilson (Jason P. Frank, 2026) The Odyssey (Homer; translation by Robert Fagles, 1996; translation by Emily Wilson, 2017) The Odyssey (Christopher Nolan, 2026) ‎'The Odyssey' review by Josh Lewis • Letterboxd  O Brother, Where Art Thou? (Joel and Ethan Coen, 2000) Olivia Newton-John – Xanadu Lyrics REVIEW: 'Immortals.' It's Quite Impressive How Many Crunches the Gods Did. (Will Leitch, 2011) The Truth Behind 'Zeus's Law' in 'The Odyssey' Is More Complex Than It Seems (Lauren Puckett-Pope, 2026) The Wiz (Sidney Lumet, 1978) Xanadu (Robert Greenwald, 1980) "Xanadu" (Olivia Newton-John and Electric Light Orchestra, 1980) ‎'Xanadu' review by Tim Brayton • Letterboxd  ‎'Xanadu' review by Justin Decloux • Letterboxd  ZEUS'S LAW!!! - by sam bodrojan - cc: helmet girl Email us at Miseenscreenpodcast@gmail.com! Find us elsewhere! Ben Verschoor https://cinema-purgatorio.ghost.io/ https://letterboxd.com/jamn4sure/  @benverschoor.bsky.social https://swvadcta.org/  Steven Santana https://breakingarrows.ghost.io/ https://letterboxd.com/number8axel/  @number8axel.bsky.social‬ Opening music is "Root Beer Rag" by Billy Joel Closing music is "G-Spot Tornado" by Frank Zappa Subscribe, rate and review us! Apple Podcasts: Mise en Screen - Podcast - Apple Podcasts Spotify Podcasts: Mise en Screen | Podcast on Spotify Player.fm: Mise En Screen podcast Podcast Addict: Mise en Screen - Podcast Addict

  6. Jul 23

    The Odyssey Review & Discussion Part 1

    The Odyssey is director, writer, and producer Christopher Nolan's adaptation of the ancient Greek epic attributed to Homer. Here we follow Odysseus, king of Ithaca, played by Matt Damon, as he attempts to find his way home after the Trojan War. Awaiting his return are his wife Penelope and son Telemachus, played by Anne Hathaway and Tom Holland respectively, who must continually defer the queen's marriage to one of many suitors who are vying to be made king, such as Robert Pattinson's Antinous. Also appearing are John Leguizamo as Eumaeus the shepherd, Zendaya as the goddess Athena, Charlize Theron as Calypso, Himseh Patel as Eurylochus, Elliot Page as Sinon, Lupita Nyong'o in a dual role as Helen of Troy and Clytemnestra, Samantha Morton as Circe, and Benny Safdie as Agamemnon. Timestamps: (0:01:11) Review system update (0:04:39) Xanadu (0:23:13) Hercules in New York (0:41:18) O Brother, Where Art Thou? (1:04:37) Immortals (1:27:41) The Odyssey (2:00:30) Next time: Part 2 of The Odyssey/Her Private Hell Works Cited: Cartoon Network Groovies - Josie and the Pussycats - Musical Evolution Cartoon Network Groovies - "Jabberjaw" Christopher Nolan Breaks Down Every Format to Watch The Odyssey Christopher Nolan's Odyssey used occupied land as a film set. That feels like a betrayal | The Odyssey | The Guardian (Mohamed Sleiman Labat, 2026) Godspell (David Greene, 1973) Hercules (Brett Ratner, 2014) Hercules in New York (1969) - Movie Review : Alternate Ending  Hercules in New York (Arthur Allan Seidelman, 1970) Immortals Set a Gold Standard for Visual Stylists 10 Years Ago (Isaac Feldberg, 2022) The Life of the Mind - by Esther Rosenfield  No One Has Dealt With More Angry Odyssey Bros Than Emily Wilson (Jason P. Frank, 2026) The Odyssey (Homer; translation by Robert Fagles, 1996; translation by Emily Wilson, 2017) The Odyssey (Christopher Nolan, 2026) ‎'The Odyssey' review by Josh Lewis • Letterboxd  O Brother, Where Art Thou? (Joel and Ethan Coen, 2000) Olivia Newton-John – Xanadu Lyrics REVIEW: 'Immortals.' It's Quite Impressive How Many Crunches the Gods Did. (Will Leitch, 2011) The Truth Behind 'Zeus's Law' in 'The Odyssey' Is More Complex Than It Seems (Lauren Puckett-Pope, 2026) The Wiz (Sidney Lumet, 1978) Xanadu (Robert Greenwald, 1980) "Xanadu" (Olivia Newton-John and Electric Light Orchestra, 1980) ‎'Xanadu' review by Tim Brayton • Letterboxd  ‎'Xanadu' review by Justin Decloux • Letterboxd  ZEUS'S LAW!!! - by sam bodrojan - cc: helmet girl Email us at Miseenscreenpodcast@gmail.com! Find us elsewhere! Ben Verschoor https://cinema-purgatorio.ghost.io/ https://letterboxd.com/jamn4sure/  @benverschoor.bsky.social https://swvadcta.org/  Steven Santana https://breakingarrows.ghost.io/ https://letterboxd.com/number8axel/  @number8axel.bsky.social‬ Opening music is "Root Beer Rag" by Billy Joel Closing music is "G-Spot Tornado" by Frank Zappa Subscribe, rate and review us! Apple Podcasts: Mise en Screen - Podcast - Apple Podcasts Spotify Podcasts: Mise en Screen | Podcast on Spotify Player.fm: Mise En Screen podcast Podcast Addict: Mise en Screen - Podcast Addict

  7. Jul 16

    Evil Dead Burn Review & Discussion

    Evil Dead Burn is the sixth Evil Dead film, produced once again by Sam Raimi and Rob Tapert, this time directed and co-written by Sébastien Vaniček alongside writer Florent Bernard. After the death of her abusive husband William (George Pullar), Alice (Souheila Yacoub) is invited to the funeral with his miserable family and ends up trapped together with them in their dilapidated vacation home when the Deadites come for retribution against the family. The film also stars Tandi Wright, Hunter Doohan, Luciane Buchanan, and Erroll Shand. Timestamps: (0:00:55) One Year Anniversary & Letterboxd top four update (0:23:18) Antichrist (0:47:32) Creepshow (0:59:40) The Evil Dead series (1:17:06) Evil Dead Burn (2:23:32) Next time: The Odyssey Works Cited: Antichrist (Lars von Trier, 2009) Army of Darkness (Sam Raimi, 1991) Creepshow (George A. Romero, 1982) Evil Dead (Fede Álvarez, 2013) Evil Dead Burn (Sébastien Vaniček, 2026) Evil Dead II (Sam Raimi, 1987) Evil Dead Rise (Lee Cronin, 2023) Letterboxd in Sales Talks With Netflix, Sony, Paramount and Others (Todd Spangler, 2026) Melancholia (Lars von Trier, 2011) Nymphomaniac (Lars von Trier, 2013) The Evil Dead (Sam Raimi, 1981) Email us at Miseenscreenpodcast@gmail.com! Find us elsewhere! Ben Verschoor https://cinema-purgatorio.ghost.io/ https://letterboxd.com/jamn4sure/  @benverschoor.bsky.social https://swvadcta.org/  Steven Santana https://breakingarrows.ghost.io/ https://letterboxd.com/number8axel/  @number8axel.bsky.social‬ Opening music is "Root Beer Rag" by Billy Joel Closing music is "G-Spot Tornado" by Frank Zappa Subscribe, rate and review us! Apple Podcasts: Mise en Screen - Podcast - Apple Podcasts Spotify Podcasts: Mise en Screen | Podcast on Spotify Player.fm: Mise En Screen podcast Podcast Addict: Mise en Screen - Podcast Addict

  8. Jul 9

    In the Hand of Dante Review & Discussion

    Director and writer Julian Schnabel reunites with Oscar Isaac for In the Hand of Dante, an adaptation of a 2002 book by Nick Tosches that follows a dual narrative with Isaac in dual roles. The first: as Dante Alighieri as he is banished from his hometown of Florence and sets out to write his famed Comedy. The second: as a fictionalized version of Nick Tosches himself in the early 2000's as he is recruited by the mob to verify the authenticity of a newly discovered original manuscript of the Comedy. Also starring are Gal Gadot as Giulietta and Gemma Donati, Gerald Butler as Louie and Pope Boniface VIII, John Malkovich as Joe Black, Martin Scorsese as Isaiah, Al Pacino as Uncle Carmine, Jason Momoa as Rosario, Louis Cancelmi as Lefty and Guido da Polenta, and Sabrina Impacciatore as Dr. Susanna Pulice. Timestamps: (0:05:53) At Eternity's Gate (0:28:48) L'Inferno (0:57:38) In the Hand of Dante (1:47:36) Spoilers (2:07:07) Next time: Evil Dead Rise Works Cited: 'At Eternity's Gate' review by Tim Brayton • Letterboxd  A Scanner Darkly (Richard Linklater, 2006) Adaptation of Dante's 'Inferno' (1911) and the Role of the Intellectuals, The (Armando Rotondi) Albano Laziale: la Divina Commedia in musica, serata di versi e note (Massimo Marciano, 2025) ‎At Eternity's Gate (Julian Schnabel, 2018) Basquiat (Julian Schnabel, 1996) Blue Valentine (Derek Cianfrance, 2010) Dante on Screen: the Helios and Milano Infernos (1911) (Gino Moliterno, 2021) Dante, Cinema, and Television (multiple authors, 2004) Divine Comedy, The (Dante Alighieri, trans. Michael Palmer, 2024) Diving Bell and the Butterfly, The (Julian Schnabel, 1997) House That Jack Built, The (Lars von Trier, 2018) 'In the Hand of Dante' Mocks Itself -- But Pacino and Scorsese Bail It Out | National Review (Armond White, 2026) In the Hand of Dante review: You might need to see the craziest new movie on Netflix (Brian Tallerico, 2026) Inferno: A New Verse Translation (trans. Michael Palmer, 2003) LA DIVINA COMMEDIA BANDA DI ALBANO L'Inferno (1911) Helios Film (Giuseppe Berardi and Arturo Busnengo, 1911) L'Inferno (Francesco Bertolini, Adolfo Padovan, and Giuseppe De Liguoro, 1911) Loving Vincent (Dorota Kobiela & Hugh Welchman, 2017) Email us at Miseenscreenpodcast@gmail.com! Find us elsewhere! Ben Verschoor https://cinema-purgatorio.ghost.io/ https://letterboxd.com/jamn4sure/  @benverschoor.bsky.social https://swvadcta.org/  Steven Santana https://breakingarrows.ghost.io/ https://letterboxd.com/number8axel/  @number8axel.bsky.social‬ Opening music is "Root Beer Rag" by Billy Joel Closing music is "G-Spot Tornado" by Frank Zappa Subscribe, rate and review us! Apple Podcasts: Mise en Screen - Podcast - Apple Podcasts Spotify Podcasts: Mise en Screen | Podcast on Spotify Player.fm: Mise En Screen podcast Podcast Addict: Mise en Screen - Podcast Addict

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Each episode Ben Verschoor and Steven Santana will talk about a contemporary release and then two related repertory screenings. The relation can be as thin as possible or explicitly obvious.