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Missing the Point: A Sports Podcast  Real Takes, Not Recycled Clickbait  Missing the Point is a sports podcast for fans who want real conversations, sharp analysis, and honest arguments — not recycled headlines, fake outrage, or the same five talking points every national show beat to death before lunch. We cover the NFL, NBA, MLB, NHL, WWE, and the biggest stories in sports, with a heavy dose of Boston sportsat the center of the chaos. League-wide drama, trades, free agency, drafts, injuries, coaching decisions, playoff races, media narratives, and all the bad takes that deserve to be dragged into the town square and publicly shamed. This is a show built on real sports debate. No scripts. No corporate-approved opinions. No pretending every argument ends with, “You know what, we both made great points.” Sometimes one of us is right. Sometimes one of us is loud. Sometimes one of us is technically wrong but spiritually correct, which is really the highest form of sports talk. Every episode brings smart, funny, fan-first coverage of: NFL coverage including power rankings, free agency, NFL Draft analysis, quarterback debates, coaching hot seats, playoff predictions, Super Bowl contenders, and which franchise is currently doing the dumbest thing possible. NBA coverage across the league, from playoff races and trade rumors to superstar drama, team-building, coaching, draft picks, and the eternal question: is this player elite, overrated, underrated, properly rated, or just very good at Instagram? WWE and wrestling coverage for major events, storylines, booking decisions, returns, title pictures, and the moments that make you yell at your TV like it owes you money. Sports media criticism for the narratives, hot takes, fake controversies, and professional argument-havers who deserve to be called out in a tone that is legally distinct from bullying. We don’t just recap what happened. We break down why it happened, what it means, and what comes next. We challenge narratives, question front offices, second-guess coaches, argue about roster construction, and dig into the decisions that shape teams long before the final score shows up. Missing the Point is for fans who care about the details: player development, team-building, coaching philosophy, contracts, draft strategy, playoff matchups, locker room dynamics, media pressure, and how one bad decision can send an entire fan base directly into group chat hell. We talk like fans, but we think like analysts. If you love Boston sports, you’ll feel right at home. If you follow the NFL, NBA, MLB, NHL, WWE, or sports culture, you’ll find something to argue with every week. New episodes drop weekly. Subscribe to Missing the Point for Boston sports talk, NFL analysis, NBA debates, Celtics breakdowns, Patriots coverage, Red Sox reactions, Bruins talk, WWE discussion, and the kind of sports conversations that actually sound like fans who care.

  1. 10h ago

    The Great NBA Overrated Draft: Hot Takes, Hoops History & Basketball Blasphemy

    The Missing the Point crew is back with a full four-man NBA debate show, and this one is built to start arguments. Dave, Mike, Zach, and Matt draft their ultimate teams of the most overrated players in NBA history, taking on some of basketball’s biggest names, loudest legacies, and most untouchable fan favorites. From Michael Jordan vs. LeBron discourse to the mythology of Kobe Bryant, the Celtics legacy of Kevin Garnett and Paul Pierce, the MVP arguments around Steve Nash and Russell Westbrook, and the “what if” careers of Tracy McGrady, Yao Ming, Blake Griffin, Carmelo Anthony, Allen Iverson, Chris Paul, Wilt Chamberlain, Karl Malone, Paul George and more — nobody is safe. This episode asks the real question behind every NBA bar debate: when does greatness become overrated? Is it about rings? Stats? Playoff failures? Media hype? Fan nostalgia? Shoe commercials? YouTube highlights? Or is it just about which retired player gets talked about like a basketball god when the resume doesn’t quite match the legend? The guys break down overrated NBA superstars, Hall of Fame debates, playoff collapses, Boston Celtics bias, Lakers hate, Knicks mythology, old-school NBA stat inflation, modern basketball hot takes, and the players whose reputations may have outgrown their actual impact on winning. Featuring heated arguments, unhinged draft logic, Celtics sacrilege, Lakers slander, Jordan mythology, Kobe efficiency debates, Paul Pierce chaos, and enough NBA history rage bait to ruin at least one group chat. Listen now for one of our funniest and most argumentative NBA episodes yet — and let us know who drafted the best overrated team. ----------------- NBA most overrated players, most overrated NBA players ever, Michael Jordan overrated debate, Kobe Bryant overrated, Kevin Garnett overrated, Steve Nash MVP debate, Paul Pierce Celtics, Russell Westbrook overrated, Carmelo Anthony Knicks, Allen Iverson legacy, Chris Paul no rings, Tracy McGrady what if, Yao Ming Hall of Fame, Wilt Chamberlain overrated, Karl Malone playoffs, Paul George playoff failures, NBA podcast, basketball debate podcast, Missing the Point podcast, NBA draft debate, Boston Celtics podcast, NBA hot takes, NBA history debate Hashtags: #NBA #NBAPodcast #BasketballPodcast #MissingThePoint #MichaelJordan #KobeBryant #Celtics #Lakers #NBAHistory #OverratedPlayers #BasketballDebate Support the show ----------- https://www.MTPshow.com Our Social Media https://linktr.ee/MTPSHOW ----------- Hosts: Mike Marcangelo, Dave Clarke Producer: Craig D'Alessandro, Dave Clarke Inquiries: Craig@mtpshow.com

    1h 36m

  2. Jun 13

    When Sports Heroes Fall What Do We Root For

    The New York Knicks just pulled off the biggest comeback in NBA Finals history, erasing a 29-point deficit against Victor Wembanyama and the San Antonio Spurs. Was it a legendary Knicks comeback, a generational Spurs collapse, or both? On this episode of Missing the Point, Dave and Matt break down the chaos from every angle: Wemby’s late-game fatigue, the Spurs’ three-point addiction, Jalen Brunson and Karl-Anthony Towns refusing to quit, Knicks fans taking over the sports world, and whether this series is already over. Then the conversation shifts to Conor McGregor’s UFC return, the fall of one of MMA’s biggest stars, Dana White, fighter exploitation, UFC politics, and what happens when your sports heroes let you down. Topics include:  NBA Finals Game 4 reaction  Knicks vs Spurs breakdown  Victor Wembanyama criticism  Jalen Brunson and KAT’s leadership  The biggest comeback in NBA Finals history  Modern NBA officiating  Conor McGregor’s return  UFC, Dana White, and fighter pay  Why sports heroes always disappoint Support the show ----------- https://www.MTPshow.com Our Social Media https://linktr.ee/MTPSHOW ----------- Hosts: Mike Marcangelo, Dave Clarke Producer: Craig D'Alessandro, Dave Clarke Inquiries: Craig@mtpshow.com

    59 min

  3. Jun 6

    Are Superteams Dead In The Second Apron Era

    The Spurs had the lead, the crowd had the vibe, and the Knicks still walked out with a 2-0 series edge. We react in real time to a Game 2 that flips from “go to bed early” to full chaos, starting with Victor Wembanyama getting a clean late look and ending with the kind of execution questions that decide NBA playoff series. We also get into the moment that keeps bugging us: when you’ve got a timeout and only seconds left, why are you choosing speed over clarity?  From there, we zoom in on what the Knicks are actually doing right. Jalen Brunson misses, keeps shooting, and the entire team wants him taking the next one anyway. That trust changes everything. We talk Knicks shot creation, paint pressure, the value of role players who do their job, and why this group feels like it has “clicked” at exactly the right time. On the Spurs side, we look at adjustments, fatigue, and why being down 0-2 doesn’t automatically mean the series is done.  Then we pull the lens back to team-building in the second apron era: why the old big-three blueprint is fading, why depth and rookie contracts matter more, and how that frames a Celtics debate around Jalen Brown, Jason Tatum, and what a real identity rebuild would require. We finish with an NFL detour on the AJ Brown trade, Drake May versus Caleb Williams, the Madden cover outrage machine, and a Chicago Bears stadium rant that somehow turns into a civic philosophy argument. If you like smart hoops talk with messy fan energy, hit play, then subscribe, share the show, and leave a review with your Game 3 prediction. Support the show ----------- https://www.MTPshow.com Our Social Media https://linktr.ee/MTPSHOW ----------- Hosts: Mike Marcangelo, Dave Clarke Producer: Craig D'Alessandro, Dave Clarke Inquiries: Craig@mtpshow.com

    49 min

  4. Jun 3

    Guided By Hate And Betting Against New York

    The NBA Finals can feel like a chess match, but sometimes it’s simpler than that: can you survive 48 minutes against a 7'4 alien who bends every possession. We break down Spurs vs Knicks with the two storylines that actually decide the series: what “stopping” Victor Wembanyama really looks like in playoff basketball, and whether New York can win without turning the game into a parade of foul trouble and desperation threes. We talk traps up top, physical wear, emotional edges, and the uncomfortable truth that every scheme can be correct and still fail. On the Knicks side, we treat this like the Jalen Brunson moment it is. If he delivers a title, he changes Knicks history, but the path is narrow: beat elite perimeter defenders, control tempo, and own clutch time at MSG. We also dig into the part fans miss when they stare at points, including assists as a signal of control, role players stealing games, and why De’Aaron Fox might quietly tilt the whole matchup. Then we pivot to the NFL and react to a pair of franchise shaping moves: the New England Patriots trading for AJ Brown to give Drake May a true WR1, the Stef Diggs ripple effects, and the Rams landing Myles Garrett in a trade that could change the Super Bowl odds overnight. If you like NBA strategy, NFL roster building, and honest predictions with Boston attitude, press play, then subscribe, share the show, and leave a review. What’s your Finals pick and why? Support the show ----------- https://www.MTPshow.com Our Social Media https://linktr.ee/MTPSHOW ----------- Hosts: Mike Marcangelo, Dave Clarke Producer: Craig D'Alessandro, Dave Clarke Inquiries: Craig@mtpshow.com

    57 min

  5. May 27

    Amazing Thunder, Roaring Knicks, Freakish Wemby, Cavs Give The Ick

    The playoffs always expose what a team really is, and we get into the version of that truth that Celtics fans do not want to hear. We break down Boston’s exit with an unfiltered coaching conversation, from predictable offence to the difference between “shoot more threes” and having real counters when a series tightens. If you have strong takes on leadership, max contracts, or what “easy to play against” actually looks like, you will have plenty to argue with here. Then we zoom out to what is making this postseason so addictive. The New York Knicks are playing a brand of hard nosed basketball that feels old school without being nostalgic, and we talk through why it travels in the playoffs. On the other side, Thunder Spurs is basketball at a higher speed, with Victor Wembanyama bending the court and Shai Gilgeous-Alexander answering every punch. We dig into Oklahoma City’s biggest weapon: depth, flexibility, and a true one through 15 rotation that lets them adjust without panicking. We also hit the stuff fans yell about every night: refs, replay, foul baiting, and simple NBA rule changes that could clean up the product fast, especially around landing space and quick review decisions. We even take a short detour into Netflix true crime and new movies, because apparently our brains cannot stop analysing narratives anywhere. Subscribe to Missing the Point, share this with a friend who is watching every game, and leave a review with your hottest playoff take. What is the single biggest reason the Celtics went home early? Support the show ----------- https://www.MTPshow.com Our Social Media https://linktr.ee/MTPSHOW ----------- Hosts: Mike Marcangelo, Dave Clarke Producer: Craig D'Alessandro, Dave Clarke Inquiries: Craig@mtpshow.com

    53 min

  6. May 21

    Patriots Offseason Reality Check

    The New England Patriots are entering one of the most important seasons of the post-Tom Brady era, and Missing the Point is breaking down every major storyline surrounding Foxborough. On this episode of Missing the Point, Mike Marcangelo is joined by Zachary Gray for a full New England Patriots 2025 offseason preview, covering Drake Maye’s year three expectations, the Patriots’ offensive line concerns, A.J. Brown trade rumors, Stefon Diggs comparisons, Romeo Doubs’ role in the offense, New England’s NFL Draft strategy, the Patriots’ difficult 2025 schedule, AFC playoff expectations, and the Mike Vrabel controversy involving Diana Russini. The episode starts with the biggest question facing the Patriots: is Drake Maye ready to take the leap? Mike and Zach break down Drake Maye’s development entering his third NFL season, including his regular season growth, playoff performance, pocket awareness, decision-making under pressure, and what he still needs to prove as the Patriots’ franchise quarterback. Maye has the talent to become one of the best young quarterbacks in the AFC, but New England still needs to prove it has built the right offense around him. The conversation then shifts to the Patriots’ offensive line and 2025 NFL Draft strategy. Did New England do enough to protect Drake Maye? Was the draft focused on building a real long-term foundation, or was it just about adding bodies to a roster with obvious holes? Mike and Zach discuss Will Campbell, left tackle concerns, offensive line depth, and why protecting Maye could define the Patriots’ entire season. From there, the show dives into the Patriots wide receiver room and the big-name trade rumors that continue to follow New England. Could A.J. Brown become a real trade target for the Patriots? Should New England be aggressive if a true number one wide receiver becomes available? Mike and Zach compare A.J. Brown and Stefon Diggs, looking at age, upside, production, injury concerns, risk, fit, and what each receiver would mean for Drake Maye’s development. A.J. Brown brings star power, size, and explosive upside. Stefon Diggs offers experience and reliability. But would either move be enough to push the Patriots into the AFC contender conversation? The guys also discuss Romeo Doubs and whether the Patriots can build a successful spread offense without a clear elite number one receiver. Zach makes the case that spreading the ball around could help Drake Maye grow in year three, while Mike questions whether a receiver room built around multiple number two options can win playoff games against teams like the Kansas City Chiefs, Buffalo Bills, Baltimore Ravens, and Cincinnati Bengals. The episode also features a full breakdown of the Patriots’ 2025 schedule, one of the toughest in the NFL by traditional strength-of-schedule metrics. Mike and Zach look at New England’s matchups against the AFC West, NFC North, and other key opponents that could shape the Patriots’ playoff hopes. They also discuss the Patriots’ 10.5 win total and whether that number is fair, too high, or actually reachable if Drake Maye and the roster stay healthy. Zach also brings the numbers on NFL rest differential, including where the Patriots rank compared to the rest of the league. The schedule may be difficult, but New England’s rest advantage could give Mike Vrabel’s team a real edge in key spots. Mike and Zach debate whether that rest differential helps offset one of the hardest schedules in football. Then the conversation turns to the bigger AFC playoff picture. Are the Patriots legitimate AFC contenders in 2025? Should New England be viewed as a threat because of Drake Maye, Mike Vrabel, and a stronger roster? Or are the expectations moving too fast for a team that still needs to prove it can win meaningful games in January? Mike and Zach discuss the Patriots’ Super Bowl chances, AFC Championship expectations, playoff matchups, and how New England stacks up against the Chiefs, Bills, Ravens, Bengals, and the rest of the AFC. They also touch on Patrick Mahomes’ injury situation, Kansas City’s uncertainty, and whether the Chiefs are still the biggest roadblock in the AFC. The episode closes with the off-field story surrounding Mike Vrabel and Diana Russini. Mike and Zach discuss the controversy, the media reaction, and whether it could become a distraction for the Patriots entering the season. They look at how the situation could affect Vrabel’s focus, his reputation, and his future in New England, while also asking the bigger question: does any of this actually matter once the Patriots start playing football? This is a full New England Patriots offseason breakdown with the usual Missing the Point mix of honest football analysis, strong opinions, frustration, optimism, and enough chaos to match the current state of the Patriots. Topics include: New England Patriots 2025 offseason previewDrake Maye year three expectationsDrake Maye development and playoff growthPatriots offensive line concernsWill Campbell and left tackle questionsPatriots 2026 NFL Draft strategyA.J. Brown trade rumorsA.J. Brown Patriots fitStefon Diggs vs. A.J. BrownRomeo Doubs role in the Patriots offensePatriots wide receiver room breakdownCan New England build around a spread offense?Patriots 2026 schedule breakdownNFL strength of schedulePatriots rest differentialPatriots 10.5 win total predictionAFC playoff picturePatriots Super Bowl expectationsChiefs, Bills, Ravens, Bengals, and AFC contendersPatrick Mahomes injury discussionMike Vrabel Patriots futureDiana Russini controversy reactionThe Patriots have their quarterback. They have a new standard under Mike Vrabel. They have a schedule that will test them immediately. They have trade rumors, roster questions, offensive line concerns, and a fan base ready to believe again. Now New England has to prove whether the 2025 Patriots are a real AFC contender or just another offseason idea that sounds better before the games start. Support the show ----------- https://www.MTPshow.com Our Social Media https://linktr.ee/MTPSHOW ----------- Hosts: Mike Marcangelo, Dave Clarke Producer: Craig D'Alessandro, Dave Clarke Inquiries: Craig@mtpshow.com

    1h 6m

  7. May 13

    Thunder Look Inevitable, Wemby Looks Unstoppable, and the Celtics Still Make Us Angry

    The NBA Playoffs are rolling on, and Missing the Point is back to break down a second round that has been weird, brutal, frustrating, and occasionally incredible. Dave Clarke and Mike Marcangelo start with the Oklahoma City Thunder looking less like a fun young team and more like the NBA’s next inevitable monster. OKC’s defense, depth, pace, and ridiculous two-way pressure have overwhelmed the Los Angeles Lakers, even with LeBron James still playing at a shocking level for his age. The guys debate whether a healthy Luka Dončić would have changed anything, why the Thunder look like the real championship measuring stick, and whether anyone left in the Western Conference can actually beat them. From there, it’s Spurs vs. Timberwolves, the best series of the round. Victor Wembanyama is already bending playoff basketball around him, and the conversation turns into one simple question: how is anyone supposed to deal with this guy for seven games? Dave and Mike dig into Wemby’s defensive range, shot-blocking, offensive growth, and why San Antonio might be ahead of schedule as a real threat to Oklahoma City. They also look at Anthony Edwards, Rudy Gobert, Naz Reid, and what Minnesota has to do to survive the series. The show also hits Pistons vs. Cavaliers, with Cade Cunningham pushing Detroit into a new tier and Donovan Mitchell trying to drag Cleveland back into the fight. Is Detroit already tougher, younger, and more connected? Can Cleveland’s size and playoff experience still matter? And can anyone trust James Harden in a playoff series when the pressure rises? Then comes the part Celtics fans probably needed and definitely deserved: Philadelphia getting swept by the New York Knicks somehow made Boston’s playoff collapse feel even worse. The guys unload on the Sixers, the Knicks’ physicality, Jalen Brunson’s matchup hunting, Joe Mazzulla, Boston’s three-point obsession, Jaylen Brown’s offseason comments, and whether the Celtics need a major reset. Support the show ----------- https://www.MTPshow.com Our Social Media https://linktr.ee/MTPSHOW ----------- Hosts: Mike Marcangelo, Dave Clarke Producer: Craig D'Alessandro, Dave Clarke Inquiries: Craig@mtpshow.com

    55 min

  8. May 4

    Boston’s 3-1 Meltdown

    A 3-1 lead should be a victory lap. For Boston, it became a slow-motion wreck, ending with a Game 7 loss at home that felt less like bad luck and more like a team choosing the wrong answers on purpose. I’m joined by Mike Marcangelo, and we go straight at the uncomfortable stuff: the Celtics’ late-game panic, the empty possessions, and the stretch where attacking the rim is working… right before they drift back into cold, contested threes. If you’ve been yelling “drive!” at your screen, you’re going to feel seen.  From there, the anger turns into a real NBA coaching conversation. We break down why Joe Mazzulla is taking the heat, what “no adjustments” actually looks like across a series, and why Embiid and Maxey exposed Boston’s defensive choices. We also separate the emotional question (should he be fired?) from the practical one (will ownership and Brad Stevens actually do it?), then run through possible replacements and what kind of identity each coach could bring.  The offseason rabbit hole shows up fast: Giannis trade math, who you’d sacrifice, and why Payton Pritchard’s growth changes the usual Celtics roster debates. We also zoom out to the wider NBA playoffs and the storylines worth locking into next, from Embiid’s dominance to LeBron’s legacy talk and the rising gravitational pull of Victor Wembanyama. If you care about the Celtics, the 76ers, or just how NBA teams break under pressure, this one’s for you. Subscribe, share with a fellow fan who’s still furious, and leave a review with who you think deserves the blame most. Support the show ----------- https://www.MTPshow.com Our Social Media https://linktr.ee/MTPSHOW ----------- Hosts: Mike Marcangelo, Dave Clarke Producer: Craig D'Alessandro, Dave Clarke Inquiries: Craig@mtpshow.com

    42 min
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Missing the Point: A Sports Podcast  Real Takes, Not Recycled Clickbait  Missing the Point is a sports podcast for fans who want real conversations, sharp analysis, and honest arguments — not recycled headlines, fake outrage, or the same five talking points every national show beat to death before lunch. We cover the NFL, NBA, MLB, NHL, WWE, and the biggest stories in sports, with a heavy dose of Boston sportsat the center of the chaos. League-wide drama, trades, free agency, drafts, injuries, coaching decisions, playoff races, media narratives, and all the bad takes that deserve to be dragged into the town square and publicly shamed. This is a show built on real sports debate. No scripts. No corporate-approved opinions. No pretending every argument ends with, “You know what, we both made great points.” Sometimes one of us is right. Sometimes one of us is loud. Sometimes one of us is technically wrong but spiritually correct, which is really the highest form of sports talk. Every episode brings smart, funny, fan-first coverage of: NFL coverage including power rankings, free agency, NFL Draft analysis, quarterback debates, coaching hot seats, playoff predictions, Super Bowl contenders, and which franchise is currently doing the dumbest thing possible. NBA coverage across the league, from playoff races and trade rumors to superstar drama, team-building, coaching, draft picks, and the eternal question: is this player elite, overrated, underrated, properly rated, or just very good at Instagram? WWE and wrestling coverage for major events, storylines, booking decisions, returns, title pictures, and the moments that make you yell at your TV like it owes you money. Sports media criticism for the narratives, hot takes, fake controversies, and professional argument-havers who deserve to be called out in a tone that is legally distinct from bullying. We don’t just recap what happened. We break down why it happened, what it means, and what comes next. We challenge narratives, question front offices, second-guess coaches, argue about roster construction, and dig into the decisions that shape teams long before the final score shows up. Missing the Point is for fans who care about the details: player development, team-building, coaching philosophy, contracts, draft strategy, playoff matchups, locker room dynamics, media pressure, and how one bad decision can send an entire fan base directly into group chat hell. We talk like fans, but we think like analysts. If you love Boston sports, you’ll feel right at home. If you follow the NFL, NBA, MLB, NHL, WWE, or sports culture, you’ll find something to argue with every week. New episodes drop weekly. Subscribe to Missing the Point for Boston sports talk, NFL analysis, NBA debates, Celtics breakdowns, Patriots coverage, Red Sox reactions, Bruins talk, WWE discussion, and the kind of sports conversations that actually sound like fans who care.

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    MTPshow.com
  • Years Active
    2020 - 2026
  • Episodes
    397
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    © 2026 Missing the Point
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