Moms With A Call

McKenzie Jevnikar & Rebecca Rowan

A messy podcast for the spiritually curious. We’re not rewriting Christianity, we’re getting back to the heart of it; because it’s about relationships, not religion.  This isn’t a space for preaching. This is a space for presence. For stories. For wrestling. For quiet hope. We're here to plant seeds, not push agendas.  So if you’re tired of feeling like your story doesn’t fit inside a church box… If you’ve ever wondered if you could still be loved by God after everything you've been through…  Or if you’re just looking for something real, grounded, or different... Come have a seat ↓

  1. 2D AGO

    S1:EP30 Midnight Series, Seeking Spiritual Maturity: A Year of Healing, Growth and Holy Reflection with Rebecca Rowan

    Welcome back to the Midnight Series, where the conversations are real and the walls come down. In this intimate, heart-to-heart episode, Rebecca reflects on a year marked by unraveling, healing, and the slow, sacred work of becoming. What began as a search for clarity turned into an invitation to slow down, listen deeper, and let God meet her beneath the noise. This episode weaves together reflections on choosing a word for the year, navigating spiritual warfare and anxiety, and learning how to create space for God’s voice in a world that never stops talking. Through honest conversation, McKenzie and Rebecca open up about shedding old identities, regulating their nervous systems, and discovering that spiritual maturity isn’t about perfection, but presence. It’s a conversation about learning to sit still long enough to hear God, brave enough to face fear, and tender enough to allow healing to unfold in its own time. We talk about: Reflecting on a year that stretched faith and deepened trust The power of choosing a word and letting it shape your spiritual posture Slowing down to create space for God in a chaotic world Prayer, solitude, and regulating the nervous system for deeper connection Spiritual warfare, anxiety, and learning to stand grounded instead of afraid Embracing your true identity and honoring the unique work God is doing in you Why spiritual maturity looks more human than polished If you’re in a season of reflection, healing, or quiet reorientation, this episode feels like a soft landing. A reminder that growth doesn’t always shout; sometimes it whispers. Episode Timeline: 00:29 – Cozy vibes, pets, and settling in 01:42 – Capturing moments and the tension of presence 02:47 – Reflecting on 2025 and a rough beginning 06:02 – Spiritual journey and personal growth 10:01 – Prayer, solitude, and sacred stillness 16:33 – Seeking deeper connection with God 23:16 – Slowing down in a world that rushes 25:03 – Regulating the nervous system for spiritual clarity 26:01 – Generational shifts in spiritual formation 26:42 – Technical hiccups and energetic conversations 27:13 – Personal resolutions and spiritual journeys 27:52 – God’s unique work in every individual 28:32 – Convictions, truth, and discernment 31:55 – Spiritual warfare and overcoming fear 33:48 – Healing through spiritual awakening 41:42 – Looking back on a year of growth 48:15 – Spiritual maturity and embracing humanity 49:53 – Closing reflections and what’s ahead This episode is an invitation to pause, breathe, and trust that God is still working, even when the progress feels quiet. Connect with Moms With A Call: Join the conversation with McKenzie + Rebecca on Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, & YouTube → @momswithacall Get show updates, behind-the-scenes moments, and more at www.momswithacall.com Listen and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts: Apple, Spotify, YouTube, and Amazon. Leave a review and let us know how this episode moved you — your words mean more than you know. If you or someone you know has a story of faith, healing, or redemption that could encourage others, we’d love to hear from you. Reach out to us at momswithacall@gmail.com Intro + Outro Music by Jason Bowles Branding + Design by dvoorheisdesigns.com

    51 min
  2. FEB 3

    S1:EP29 Exploring Faith, Gender, and Sexuality With Mattie Mae Motl

    Welcome back to Moms With A Call, where real stories meet real faith. In this thoughtful and deeply respectful conversation, McKenzie and Rebecca sit down with Mattie Mae Motl, a PhD candidate at the University of St. Andrews whose work focuses on gender and sexuality in the New Testament. Mattie Mae brings both scholarly insight and personal vulnerability as she shares her journey from growing up Southern Baptist to walking through faith deconstruction alongside her atheist husband. This episode invites listeners into a nuanced conversation about biblical literacy, historical and cultural context, and why understanding how Scripture was written matters just as much as what it says. Mattie Mae gently challenges surface-level interpretations, emphasizing the role of love, inclusion, and humility when engaging with difficult or debated texts. Rather than offering easy answers, this conversation makes space for curiosity, questions, and compassion. Together, they explore how faith can evolve, how parenting shapes our spiritual lens, and how God’s presence remains even in seasons of deconstruction and reimagining belief. We talk about: Mattie Mae’s upbringing in the Southern Baptist church and her academic calling What deconstruction looks like when faith and family intersect Gender and sexuality in Scripture and why historical context matters The importance of biblical literacy and reading the Bible responsibly Women in the Bible and their often-overlooked influence Holding love, inclusion, and faith together without fear This episode is for anyone who has wrestled with Scripture, felt tension between belief and lived experience, or longed for conversations that honor both faith and complexity. Episode Timeline: 01:06 – Meeting Mattie Mae and her journey into theology 03:00 – Growing up Southern Baptist 05:36 – Walking through deconstruction 11:07 – Parenting, faith, and personal conviction 14:40 – Challenging inherited beliefs 26:30 – Biblical context and interpretation 36:26 – Exploring the Hebrew Bible and TaNaK 37:45 – Why the Old Testament matters 39:57 – Deconstruction and evolving faith 44:39 – Reading Scripture through context 54:53 – Women in the Bible and their impact 01:02:24 – Resources for deeper study 01:08:25 – Final reflections If you’ve ever wondered how faith, scholarship, and real life can coexist, this episode offers a grounded reminder that God is not afraid of our questions and often meets us right in the middle of them. Show Links & Resources Mentioned: Instagram & TikTok: @mattiemaemotl Inspired by Rachel Held Evans https://rachelheldevans.com The Bible Project https://bibleproject.com James Cone https://yalebooks.yale.edu/author/james-h-cone Wil Gafney https://wilgafney.com The Justice of Jesus by Joash P. Thomas https://www.amazon.com/dp/0802867031 God Didn’t Make Us to Hate Us by Rev. Liz Edman https://www.amazon.com/dp/0802876936 Queer & Christian https://www.queerandchristian.com Connect with Moms With A Call: Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, & YouTube → @momswithacall Show updates & more → https://www.momswithacall.com Listen on Apple, Spotify, YouTube, and Amazon Leave a review and let us know how this episode moved you — your words mean more than you know. Have a story to share? Email us at momswithacall@gmail.com Intro + Outro Music by Jason Bowles Branding + Design by https://www.dvoorheisdesigns.com

    1h 12m
  3. JAN 27

    S1:EP28 Midnight Series, We Are So Back: McKenzie’s Surrender Year Recapped

    Welcome back to the Midnight Series, where the conversations run deep, the lights are low, and nothing is off-limits. In this intimate late-night episode, McKenzie reflects on a year marked by spiritual warfare, internal tension, and the slow unraveling of control. What began as a pursuit of abundance and forward momentum became an unexpected invitation to surrender, not just plans and expectations, but fear, ego, and old survival patterns that no longer served her. Through honest storytelling, she opens up about the spiritual and emotional battles of 2025, including business strain, personal conflict, and the weight of trying to carry everything alone. This conversation explores what it looks like to release control to God, confront deeply rooted fears, and allow healing to happen at a soul level. A pivotal encounter with a spirit portrait artist becomes a moment of clarity and confirmation, illuminating the unseen spiritual work happening beneath the surface and affirming a connection to God that transcends language and logic. The episode closes with a vision for a coming Connection Year, a season devoted to deeper alignment with self, community, and God. This is a conversation about surrender as strength, faith as anchoring, and the quiet power of letting God lead when the path feels uncertain. We talk about: Walking through spiritual warfare and internal resistance The tension between control, ego, and true surrender Facing long-held fears and releasing old identities Discovering abundance through letting go, not striving A transformative spiritual encounter that affirmed divine presence Entering a new season focused on connection, healing, and alignment Episode Timeline: 00:00 – Welcome to the Midnight Series 03:33 – Reflecting on a year of surrender 04:58 – Spiritual warfare and inner conflict 07:21 – Wrestling with control 13:08 – Finding abundance through letting go 17:32 – A spiritual portrait and personal insight 31:00 – Connection and spiritual growth 31:54 – Faith metaphors and walking on water 38:13 – Numerology and personal seasons 41:45 – Reflections on spiritual cycles 50:19 – Introducing the Connection Year 54:58 – Final thoughts and reflections If you find yourself in a season of tension, pruning, surrender, or spiritual questioning, this episode offers a reminder that God often does His deepest work when we finally stop trying to control the outcome. Connect with Moms With A Call: Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, and YouTube: @momswithacall Show updates and behind-the-scenes moments: www.momswithacall.com Listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, and Amazon Music. Leave a review and let us know how this episode moved you. Your words mean more than you know. Have a story to share? Email us at momswithacall@gmail.com Intro and Outro Music by Jason Bowles Branding and Design by dvoorheisdesigns.com

    56 min
  4. 12/02/2025

    S1:EP27 When the Story Didn’t Go as Planned and God Showed Up Anyway, With Dare “Stokes” Blalock

    Welcome back to Moms With A Call, where real stories meet real faith. In this deeply tender episode, McKenzie and Rebecca sit down with their friend Dare, who bravely opens her heart to share her journey through infertility, pregnancy loss, and the long road toward surrendering her plans to God. With honesty and humility, Dare walks us through the ache of miscarriage, the emotional toll of IVF, the joy of unexpected pregnancy, and the spiritual awakening that unfolded in the middle of it all. This conversation is raw, hopeful, and full of the quiet miracles that happen when we loosen our grip and let God write the story. Together, they explore what it looks like to hold grief and gratitude at the same time, to navigate career and motherhood with an open hand, and to trust God even when the path feels impossible to understand. If you have ever walked through questions, waiting seasons, or the kind of heartbreak that changes you, Dares story will remind you that God is present in every chapter, even the ones that hurt the most. We talk about: The emotional and spiritual complexities of infertility The grief of miscarriage and the tenderness of healing IVF, pregnancy, and finding God in the waiting Navigating postpartum highs and lows Unexpected blessings that arrive when we surrender control Balancing calling, career, and motherhood with faith at the center Episode Timeline: 00:00 - Opening banter and personal anecdotes 02:10 - Introduction to the podcast 02:41 - Introducing our special guest 03:46 - Dares background and personal story 11:01 - Faith, struggle, and meeting God in the hard places 18:41 - Infertility and the long waiting season 41:07 - Reflections and cultural parallels 42:09 - The beginning of the IVF journey 43:04 - IVF success and the miracle of pregnancy 44:18 - Navigating IVF while holding onto faith 47:20 - Postpartum challenges and unexpected joys 51:27 - A surprising second pregnancy 01:01:56 - Career decisions through the lens of faith 01:12:56 - Final reflections on surrender Connect with Moms With A Call: Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, and YouTube: @momswithacall Show updates, behind the scenes moments, and more: www.momswithacall.com Listen on Apple, Spotify, YouTube, and Amazon Leave a review and tell us how this episode moved you. Your words mean more than you know. Have a story to share? We would love to hear from you: momswithacall@gmail.com Intro and Outro Music by Jason Bowles Branding and Design by dvoorheisdesigns.com

    1h 22m
  5. 11/25/2025

    S1:EP26 Midnight Series: Busy Seasons, Babies, and the Battle for Alignment

    Welcome back to the Midnight Series, where the conversations run deep, the lights are low, and nothing is off-limits. In this late-night heart-to-heart, McKenzie and Rebecca peel back the curtain on the real, unfiltered journey of building a business while holding a family, a calling, and a spiritual life all at once. Together, they explore the quiet tension between growth and overwhelm, purpose and pressure, identity and surrender. Through honest storytelling, McKenzie shares what it feels like to steward a business through busy seasons, navigate imposter syndrome, build a team from the ground up, and keep faith at the center when everything feels loud. This episode dives into spiritual alignment, discerning God’s voice in the chaos, and the sacred work of returning to peace when fear tries to take the lead. She also opens up about spiritual trauma, cord-cutting practices, and what it means to release what drains you so you can fully step into what God is calling you to do. It’s vulnerable, grounding, and full of reminders that you don’t have to hold it all alone; God never asked you to. We talk about: Balancing business expansion with motherhood, marriage, and real life Walking through imposter syndrome and the lies that try to hold you back Building an agency from scratch and learning to lead with faith Spiritual alignment, clarity, and discerning God’s direction Healing from spiritual trauma and releasing what no longer serves your spirit The power of prayer, surrender, and letting God steady your next step If you’ve ever felt stretched thin between your calling and your capacity, this episode will feel like a deep breath and a gentle reminder that God is in the details of your becoming. Episode Timeline: 00:29 – Balancing business and family life 02:32 – Navigating busy seasons 03:11 – Building and growing an agency 07:55 – Imposter syndrome and self-doubt 13:16 – Finding purpose and alignment 17:28 – Aligning your will with God’s guidance 17:57 – The power of prayer and cord-cutting 19:07 – Overcoming spiritual trauma 20:05 – A deeper look into cord-cutting ceremonies 21:35 – Visualizing and releasing spiritual cords 22:54 – Reflections on spiritual warfare 26:07 – Technical difficulties and laughter 31:12 – Final thoughts and encouragement Connect with Moms With A Call: Join the conversation with McKenzie + Rebecca on Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, & YouTube → @momswithacall Get show updates, behind-the-scenes moments, and more at www.momswithacall.com Listen and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts: Apple, Spotify, YouTube, and Amazon Leave a review and let us know how this episode moved you — your words mean more than you know. Have a story to share? If you or someone you know has a testimony of faith, healing, or redemption, we’d love to hear from you. Reach out at momswithacall@gmail.com. Intro + Outro Music by Jason Bowles Branding + Design by dvoorheisdesigns.com

    32 min
  6. 11/18/2025

    S1:EP25 Midnight Series, “He’s My Biblical Taylor Swift”

    Welcome back to the Midnight Series, where the conversations run deep, the lights are low, and nothing is off-limits. In this intimate late-night episode, McKenzie and Rebecca dive into the tender, transformative journey of rediscovering faith, letting go of old identities, and learning to see themselves the way God already does. Through raw storytelling, they unpack the meaning behind Rebecca’s rebaptism, exploring childhood faith, spiritual wounds, and the sacred moment of choosing Jesus again… with full awareness, full agency, and full surrender. This conversation weaves through themes of spiritual pruning, ego death, and the holy unraveling that often precedes healing. Together, they reflect on what it means to let God love you, to release the parts of yourself you once used for survival, and to step into the slow, deep work of being remade from the inside out. We talk about: Rebaptism, reclaiming faith, and being “born again” in a deeper way Spiritual pruning.. why God removes what no longer bears fruit Ego death, identity, and learning to release control The connection between motherhood, surrender, and spiritual awakening How God heals suppressed wounds and restores worth Ordinary ministry, compassion, and becoming more like Jesus If you’re in a season of breaking, rebuilding, or rediscovering who you are in God’s eyes, this episode will feel like a breath of air in the wilderness. Episode Timeline: 03:50 – Rediscovering faith and the meaning of rebaptism 11:23 – Spiritual pruning and healing 17:23 – Understanding divine love and self-worth 26:28 – Healing from the inside out 26:58 – The power of ordinary ministry 27:27 – Understanding and empathy in ministry 28:09 – Self-love, identity, and God’s gentleness 29:16 – Prayer as a pathway to healing 31:14 – Releasing emotions we learned to suppress 33:04 – Spiritual power and manifesting purpose 38:17 – Ego death and the refinement of motherhood 39:56 – Spiritual blindness vs. spiritual death 45:02 – Entering the wilderness with God 50:18 – The influence of Tim Mackie 53:12 – Final reflections Connect with Moms With A Call: Join the conversation with McKenzie + Rebecca on Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, & YouTube → @momswithacall Get show updates, behind-the-scenes moments, and more at www.momswithacall.com Listen and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts: Apple, Spotify, YouTube, and Amazon Leave a review and let us know how this episode moved you — your words mean more than you know. Have a story to share? If you or someone you know has a testimony of faith, healing, or redemption, we’d love to hear from you. Reach out at momswithacall@gmail.com. Intro + Outro Music by Jason Bowles Branding + Design by dvoorheisdesigns.com

    54 min
  7. 11/11/2025

    S1:EP24 Heart of Faith: How God Carried Sterling Through the Impossible, Pt 2

    Welcome back to Moms With A Call, where real stories meet real faith. In this powerful continuation of Sterling’s story, McKenzie and Rebecca sit down once again with Sterling Griggs as he shares the miraculous details of his near-death experience and the dreams, visions, and divine encounters that carried him through a medically induced coma. Sterling’s testimony paints a vivid picture of what it means to cling to faith when your body is broken but your spirit is still fighting. From surreal visions that blurred the line between Heaven and earth to the unwavering love of his wife Kelly and their community, this episode is a reminder that God is always present, even when we’re suspended between life and eternity. This is a story about hope, healing, and the miracles that happen when we fully surrender to God’s plan. We talk about: The dreams and visions Sterling experienced while in a coma The spiritual battle between fear and faith How God used community, love, and prayer to sustain his family Finding purpose and peace after near-death experiences What surrender truly looks like on the other side of survival If you’ve ever wondered what divine intervention feels like, or how faith can breathe life into even the darkest valleys, this conversation will leave you in awe of the God who never lets go. Episode Timeline: 00:31 – A journey through surgery and dreams 00:56 – Protective and hopeful visions 03:13 – A nursing conference dream 03:33 – A dark and dreary conference 06:06 – Finding light and worship 12:54 – Super Bowl dream and family connections 15:40 – Recovery and reflections 23:20 – Community support and recovery 23:42 – Medical trauma and family impact 25:10 – Sharing the experience at a symposium 26:25 – Divine intervention and medical miracles 27:14 – Reflections on near-death experiences 31:13 – Faith and doubt in crisis 33:24 – Purpose and healing 37:56 – Living faith in everyday life 42:01 – The meaning of surrender 43:10 – Final thoughts and gratitude Connect with Moms With A Call: -Join the conversation with McKenzie + Rebecca on Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, & YouTube → @momswithacall -Get show updates, behind-the-scenes moments, and more at www.momswithacall.com -Listen and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts: Apple, Spotify, YouTube, and Amazon -Leave a review and let us know how this episode moved you — your words mean more than you know. Have a story to share? If you or someone you know has a story of faith, healing, or redemption that could encourage others, we’d love to hear from you. Reach out to us at momswithacall@gmail.com. Intro + Outro Music by Jason Bowles Branding + Design by www.dvoorheisdesigns.com

    44 min
  8. 11/04/2025

    S1:EP23 Heart of Faith: How God Carried Sterling Through the Impossible, Pt 1

    Welcome back to Moms With A Call, where real stories meet real faith. In this deeply moving part one of the episode, McKenzie and Rebecca sit down with Sterling Griggs, godfather to Rebecca’s children and a man whose story embodies perseverance, prayer, and the power of God’s healing hand. From a heart murmur diagnosis in childhood to surviving multiple life-threatening surgeries, Sterling’s journey is one of resilience, surrender, and unwavering faith through every setback and scar. He opens up about the fear, the fight, and the miraculous moments that only God could orchestrate, reminding us that faith doesn’t always prevent the storm, but it will carry you through it. This is more than a story of recovery; it’s a story of redemption, community, and the hope that comes from trusting God with what feels impossible. We talk about: The long road of heart complications and recovery The emotional and spiritual toll of major surgery How family, faith, and community carried him through The power of prayer and surrender in moments of fear Finding purpose in pain and healing through hope If you’ve ever questioned where God is in the middle of suffering, this episode will remind you, He’s in every heartbeat, every breath, and every miracle along the way. Episode Timeline: 00:32 – Special guest intro: Sterling Griggs 01:14 – Early life and discovering his heart condition 03:21 – The first major surgery and early recovery 07:22 – Health setbacks in 2019 08:02 – The pneumonia vaccine incident 13:47 – Facing a second major surgery 27:27 – Cardiac arrest and a rare medical complication 30:43 – Advocacy, decisions, and divine timing 34:54 – Healing, rehabilitation, and gratitude 46:00 – The infection that tested his faith 51:43 – Final reflections on God’s goodness Connect with Moms With A Call: Join the conversation with McKenzie + Rebecca on Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, & YouTube → @momswithacall Get show updates, behind-the-scenes moments, and more at www.momswithacall.com Listen and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts: Apple, Spotify, YouTube, and Amazon Leave a review and let us know how this episode moved you — your words mean more than you know. Have a story to share? If you or someone you know has a story of faith, healing, or redemption that could encourage others, we’d love to hear from you. Reach out to us at momswithacall@gmail.com. Intro + Outro Music by Jason Bowles Branding + Design by www.dvoorheisdesigns.com

    53 min

Ratings & Reviews

4.4
out of 5
7 Ratings

About

A messy podcast for the spiritually curious. We’re not rewriting Christianity, we’re getting back to the heart of it; because it’s about relationships, not religion.  This isn’t a space for preaching. This is a space for presence. For stories. For wrestling. For quiet hope. We're here to plant seeds, not push agendas.  So if you’re tired of feeling like your story doesn’t fit inside a church box… If you’ve ever wondered if you could still be loved by God after everything you've been through…  Or if you’re just looking for something real, grounded, or different... Come have a seat ↓