Money Making Conversations Master Class

Rushion McDonald

Hi, this is Rushion McDonald. Welcome to the podcast world of Money Making Conversations Master Class. I interview profits and nonprofits to learn their "Secrets to Success."  I'm a former IBM Executive with a degree in Mathematics. I started my entrepreneurial career as a stand-up comic, then became a sitcom writer, award-winning baker, social media influencer, award-winning television Executive Producer, and brand architect for super-successful celebrities and products. Money Making Conversations Master Class interviews a diverse group of celebrities, entrepreneurs, and influencers in the financial and business community with their advice and tips so you can be successful, too. It's time to stop reading other people's success stories and start building your own. People always talk about their purpose or gifts. If you have a gift, Lead with your Gift, and don't let your friends, family, or co-workers stop you from planning or living your dream. Keep Winning! https://www.moneymakingconversations.com https://www.youtube.com/MoneyMakingConversations https://www.facebook.com/MoneyMakingConversations/ https://twitter.com/moneymakingconv https://www.instagram.com/moneymakingconversations/

  1. Uplift:  Shares her story of survival, and resilience, tracing her journey from foster care and teen motherhood.

    3H AGO

    Uplift: Shares her story of survival, and resilience, tracing her journey from foster care and teen motherhood.

    Listen and subscribe to Money Making Conversations on iHeartRadio, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, www.moneymakingconversations.com/subscribe/ or wherever you listen to podcasts. New Money Making Conversations episodes drop daily.  I want to alert you, so you don’t miss out on expert analysis and insider perspectives from my guests who provide tips that can help you uplift the community, improve your financial planning, motivation, or advice on how to be a successful entrepreneur.  Keep winning! Two-time Emmy and Three-time NAACP Image Award-winning, television Executive Producer Rushion McDonald interviewed Kimberly Kelly. Titles: Real Estate Broker, Brokerage Owner, EntrepreneurHost: Rushion McDonaldPodcast: Money Making Conversations Masterclass Kimberly Kelly shares a deeply personal story of survival, resilience, and self-determination, tracing her journey from foster care and teen motherhood to becoming a real estate brokerage owner and business leader. The conversation highlights how mindset, faith, adaptability, and education can transform adversity into long-term success. Purpose of the Interview The interview is designed to: Show what success really looks like, including the hardship behind it. Inspire people facing extreme adversity—especially those from foster care, single-parent households, or teen parents. Demonstrate nontraditional paths to success, beyond college-to-career pipelines. Highlight entrepreneurship as a tool for control and stability, not perfection. Encourage persistence, faith, and adaptability in business and life. Key Themes & Takeaways 1. Resilience Formed Through Early Adversity Kimberly was placed in foster care at a young age due to her mother’s substance abuse. She helped raise her two younger brothers and fought to keep them together in foster care. She became a teen mother at 15, and by 18 had two children while still caring for her siblings. Takeaway: Responsibility and leadership can develop long before opportunity appears. 2. Faith, Positivity, and Survival Mode Kimberly credits her positive mindset and faith—learned during foster care—as foundational. Prayer and belief helped her endure instability, separation, and lack of support. Survival mode gave her clarity: failure was not an option. Key insight: Faith doesn’t remove hardship—but it provides grounding when control is limited. 3. Education as a Turning Point, Not a Straight Line She returned to complete her high school diploma as a young mother. She took advantage of teen workshops, government programs, and training opportunities. Kimberly earned a technical degree in electronics engineering, entering the IT world before later pivoting. Takeaway: Education can be layered, nonlinear, and still powerful. 4. Choosing Entrepreneurship and Real Estate Kimberly entered real estate with a mission to educate and empower first-time homebuyers, especially those from backgrounds like hers. She later became a licensed real estate broker and opened her own brokerage. She currently leads a small, relationship‑driven brokerage with six agents. Core belief: Ownership creates options—and leadership multiplies impact. 5. A Relationship-Based Business Model Her brokerage focuses on: One-on-one agent training Hands-on mentorship Personalized marketing strategies Kimberly intentionally avoids a corporate-style model to prioritize growth, trust, and accountability. Key takeaway: Culture and connection matter more than size, especially early on. 6. Adaptability as a Business Strategy During market changes (including COVID), Kimberly expanded into: Property preservation Repair, inspections, and asset management services She co-owns multiple businesses with her husband, spreading risk and stabilizing income. Lesson: The ability to pivot often determines long-term survival in business. 7. Refusing to Accept Limiting Narratives Kimberly rejects the idea that her background should define her ceiling. She emphasizes self-talk, belief, and forward motion—even without a support system. Her story challenges stereotypes about: Foster youth Teen mothers Single Black women in business Nontraditional entrepreneurs Takeaway: Your starting point does not determine your finish. Notable Quotes “I always lived in survival mode—failure was never an option.” “I had to raise myself, so I had to believe in myself.” “If I did it from where I came from, I promise you—you can do it too.” “Always stay adaptable. The market changes, so you change with it.” “Put one foot in front of the other, even when it feels like the world is caving in.” “Success was never something I thought I couldn’t have—I just had to figure out my path.” Overall Impact Kimberly Kelly’s interview is a testament to perseverance without privilege. It reframes success as a product of: Relentless forward motion Learning wherever possible Faith and internal motivation Ownership, adaptability, and leadership Her story resonates most powerfully with listeners who have been told—directly or indirectly—that their circumstances disqualify them from success. Final message: There are no excuses left after hearing this story—only choices. #SHMS #BEST #STRAW See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    24 min
  2. Brand Building:  she built the first Black woman-owned, fully licensed character brand in major retail.

    4H AGO

    Brand Building: she built the first Black woman-owned, fully licensed character brand in major retail.

    Listen and subscribe to Money Making Conversations on iHeartRadio, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, www.moneymakingconversations.com/subscribe/ or wherever you listen to podcasts. New Money Making Conversations episodes drop daily.  I want to alert you, so you don’t miss out on expert analysis and insider perspectives from my guests who provide tips that can help you uplift the community, improve your financial planning, motivation, or advice on how to be a successful entrepreneur.  Keep winning! Two-time Emmy and Three-time NAACP Image Award-winning, television Executive Producer Rushion McDonald interviewed April Showers. Founder of Afro Unicorn, joins Money Making Conversations Masterclass to share how she built the first Black woman-owned, fully licensed character brand in major retail. With over $20 million in sales, Afro Unicorn celebrates diversity and empowers women and children of color. 🔑 Key Themes & Highlights Origins of Afro Unicorn April was inspired by a friend's repeated reference to her as a "unicorn," highlighting her extraordinary ability to balance multiple businesses and raise two children. Noticing existing unicorn imagery lacked representation, she created Afro Unicorn to uplift young girls of color. Challenges & Early Growth Despite facing personal hardships—including her son's hospitalization and several family losses—April remained committed to her mission. Her persistence led to a viral moment where a young girl wearing an Afro Unicorn shirt caught Walmart’s attention, resulting in a licensing deal. Licensing & Expansion Instead of manufacturing herself, April strategically partnered with licensees to distribute Afro Unicorn merchandise. Within a year, she secured 45+ licensing agreements, expanding into books, bedding, hair care, party supplies, and more. Business Strategy & Advice Trademarking Afro Unicorn early, hiring an accountant and lawyer, and writing a business plan were critical to her success. She advises entrepreneurs to visualize success, stay consistent, and never quit. Future Plans April is developing Miss April’s Crown, an animated series teaching young entrepreneurs business skills through affirmations and mentorship. 📘 About the BrandAfro Unicorn is available at major retailers, including Walmart, Target, and Amazon.   #STRAW #BEST #SHMS See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    29 min
  3. Brand Building: Artist Development, she uses her platform to educate, empower, and elevate artists and collectors alike.

    5H AGO

    Brand Building: Artist Development, she uses her platform to educate, empower, and elevate artists and collectors alike.

    Listen and subscribe to Money Making Conversations on iHeartRadio, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, www.moneymakingconversations.com/subscribe/ or wherever you listen to podcasts. New Money Making Conversations episodes drop daily.  I want to alert you, so you don’t miss out on expert analysis and insider perspectives from my guests who provide tips that can help you uplift the community, improve your financial planning, motivation, or advice on how to be a successful entrepreneur.  Keep winning! Two-time Emmy and three-time NAACP Image Award-winning television Executive Producer Rushion McDonald interviewed Karimah McFarlane.   🎯 Purpose of the Interview To explore Karimah McFarlane’s multifaceted journey—from her corporate leadership roles at Google and Workday to becoming the owner of Buckhead Art & Company—and to inspire others to embrace change, pursue entrepreneurship, and understand the value of art as a tool for wealth-building and cultural empowerment. 🧭 Key Takeaways 1. Corporate Career & Tech Leadership Karimah has 20+ years in Human Resources, specializing in mergers and acquisitions. At Google, she supported AI and Pixel teams as a People Business Partner, despite initially thinking the recruiter’s call was spam. Currently at Workday, she partners with the Chief Revenue Officer to build high-performing sales teams and develop leadership pipelines. 2. Navigating Change & Cultural Shifts Transitioned from the East Coast (DMV area) to the Bay Area, facing cultural adjustments (e.g., lack of familiar foods, hair products). Found support through Delta Sigma Theta sorority and Black Googlers Network. Emphasized the importance of embracing discomfort and new experiences for personal and professional growth. 3. HR as a Strategic Asset HR is more than hiring/firing—it’s about scaling businesses, developing talent, and preventing legal issues. Small businesses often undervalue HR until a crisis occurs. HR should be seen as a strategic partner on leadership teams. 4. Art as Wealth, Culture & Healing Karimah owns Buckhead Art & Company, the only art gallery in Buckhead, Atlanta. Inspired by her exposure to art investment at Google and her role in selecting art for corporate spaces. Advocates for marginalized artists by helping them with branding, IP protection, and business structure. 5. Making Art Accessible The gallery focuses on beginner and mid-level collectors, offering education and approachable experiences. Offers virtual consultations, art fairs, and community events to demystify art buying. Emphasizes the emotional, cultural, and financial value of art. 6. Recognition & Impact Buckhead Art & Company was named Best Art Gallery in Georgia (2023 & 2024). Uses her platform to educate, empower, and elevate artists and collectors alike. Promotes artist development through storytelling, branding, and business mentorship. 💬 Notable Quotes “Empowerment is figuring out what you do best and using your talent to help others.” “Don’t shy away from opportunities that give you insights and experiences.” “HR helps you scale your organization—it’s not just about hiring and firing.” “Art has always been at the forefront of royalty, wealth, and education.” “We specialize in humans. When you walk into our gallery, you are equal.” “You don’t have to win an Oscar to be a great actor. Same with art—you don’t need a traditional path to be successful.” 🔗 Connect with Karimah McFarlane Gallery: Buckhead Art & Company YouTube: Buckhead Art & Company Instagram: @buckheadartandcompany #SHMS #STRAW #BEST See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    37 min
  4. Career Change:  She enables people to use AI for financial empowerment, career resilience, and modern entrepreneurship.

    9H AGO

    Career Change: She enables people to use AI for financial empowerment, career resilience, and modern entrepreneurship.

    Listen and subscribe to Money Making Conversations on iHeartRadio, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, www.moneymakingconversations.com/subscribe/ or wherever you listen to podcasts. New Money Making Conversations episodes drop daily.  I want to alert you, so you don’t miss out on expert analysis and insider perspectives from my guests who provide tips that can help you uplift the community, improve your financial planning, motivation, or advice on how to be a successful entrepreneur.  Keep winning! Two-time Emmy and Three-time NAACP Image Award-winning, television Executive Producer Rushion McDonald interviewed Tonya Edmonds.  Podcast: Money Making Conversations MasterclassHost: Rushion McDonaldGuest: Tonya Edmonds (Founder, Smart Growth AI) 1. Purpose of the Interview The purpose of the interview is to educate, motivate, and equip listeners—especially professionals, entrepreneurs, and women—with: A practical understanding of artificial intelligence (AI) without technical intimidation Strategies to reclaim time, increase productivity, and future‑proof careers Lessons on wealth building, including multiple streams of income and investing The importance of mentorship, partnerships, and adaptability Real-world insights from Tonya’s entrepreneurial and corporate journey At its core, the conversation connects AI adoption with financial empowerment, career resilience, and modern entrepreneurship. 2. Interview Overview Tonya Edmonds shares her transition from corporate roles (including work at Johnson & Johnson) to founding Smart Growth AI, a consulting and training firm that helps busy professionals and entrepreneurs reclaim 10+ hours per week by implementing practical AI systems. Rushion McDonald frames the discussion around: Technology adoption Financial literacy Entrepreneurship Personal resilience Long-term thinking in a rapidly changing economy 3. Key Takeaways A. AI Is a People Challenge, Not a Technology Problem Tonya explains that resistance to AI is driven by fear, not complexity. Employees worry AI will replace them, so leaders must reframe it as a co-creator and productivity partner, not a job threat. AI succeeds when people understand how it elevates their role instead of eliminating it. B. AI Is About Time Leverage, Not Working More Smart Growth AI focuses on helping clients: Automate repetitive tasks Improve workflows Regain lost hours Redirect time toward strategy, creativity, and rest Tonya warns against burnout, emphasizing that reclaimed time should be used intentionally—not just to take on more work. C. Multiple Streams of Income Build Stability A casual cookout conversation introduced Tonya to the idea of wealth-building beyond employment. Playing Robert Kiyosaki’s Cashflow Quadrant helped her understand: Being an employee alone limits wealth creation Leveraging money and assets creates freedom Community and shared learning accelerate growth This mindset later helped her navigate layoffs, entrepreneurship, and motherhood. D. Mentorship Is a Critical Success Factor Tonya repeatedly highlights mentorship as a defining difference between struggle and progress: The lack of mentorship contributed to challenges with her day spa business Strong mentorship later helped her pivot, recover, and scale Her relationship with Alicia Lyttle (“The Queen of AI”) accelerated her expertise and credibility Mastermind groups and strategic partnerships played a key role in expansion. E. Women Must Shift from Spending to Investing Tonya offers direct advice to women: Start small and stay consistent Invest only in things you understand—or get educated Consider real estate, passive investments, and partnerships Use tools like self-directed IRAs or rolled-over 401(k)s to build wealth Progress matters more than perfection. F. Learning AI Is Career Insurance Tonya encourages professionals to: Learn AI on their own time if necessary Experiment hands-on, not just consume content Become the AI “go‑to” person at work Increase job security by increasing relevance Early adopters gain disproportionate advantage. G. No Single AI Tool Does Everything Best She explains how different tools serve different purposes: ChatGPT – brainstorming and idea generation Claude – deeper, more refined writing Perplexity – research Gemini – graphics and video Copilot – integrated enterprise workflows Her advice: use multiple tools strategically. H. Privacy and Security Matter Tonya stresses AI safety best practices: Turn off model-training permissions Never input personal or client-identifying data Use placeholder names (e.g., “Company X”) Treat AI tools as public spaces unless secured 4. Notable Quotes On AI Adoption “It’s not a technology problem—it’s a people problem.” On Fear of AI “You’re asking people to train a tool they think could replace them.” On Time Freedom “If you learn AI, it will help you leverage your time—but don’t use that time to burn yourself out.” On Wealth Building “You can’t really get ahead just being an employee. You have to leverage your money.” On Mentorship “You have to be careful who you plant seeds with—because they can come back and help you.” On Women and Investing “Even if it’s just $100 a week or $100 a month, every little bit counts.” On Learning AI “Don’t just listen—open up your laptop and start playing with it.” #SHMS #STRAW #BEST See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    28 min
  5. Follow Your Passion: He followed his passion and not his parents and co-founded The Gathering Spot, a reimagined traditional private city club.

    9H AGO

    Follow Your Passion: He followed his passion and not his parents and co-founded The Gathering Spot, a reimagined traditional private city club.

    Listen and subscribe to Money Making Conversations on iHeartRadio, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, www.moneymakingconversations.com/subscribe/ or wherever you listen to podcasts. New Money Making Conversations episodes drop daily.  I want to alert you, so you don’t miss out on expert analysis and insider perspectives from my guests who provide tips that can help you uplift the community, improve your financial planning, motivation, or advice on how to be a successful entrepreneur.  Keep winning! Two-time Emmy and Three-time NAACP Image Award-winning, television Executive Producer Rushion McDonald interviewed Ryan Wilson. Co-founder and CEO of The Gathering Spot (TGS), joins host Rushion McDonald to discuss his entrepreneurial journey, the creation and expansion of The Gathering Spot, and the broader mission of building community, economic opportunity, and cultural pride for Black professionals and creatives. Wilson explains that while TGS officially opened in Atlanta in 2016, the idea began years earlier when he was a law student in Washington, D.C. What started as a reimagining of the traditional private city club became a national platform combining community, collaboration, events, workspaces, and eventually fintech tools. Despite major obstacles—most notably being rejected by 97 potential investors—Wilson persisted, driven by a clear sense of purpose and belief in the unmet needs of Black and minority communities. The conversation highlights Atlanta’s importance as the launch city, the power of community-driven spaces, and the need to move beyond performative diversity efforts toward sustainable, scalable Black-owned businesses. Purpose of the Interview The primary purpose of the interview is to: Inspire entrepreneurs, especially young and underrepresented founders, to pursue their ideas despite resistance. Explain the mission and impact of The Gathering Spot as more than a coworking space—positioning it as a cultural, economic, and social hub. Encourage long-term thinking about Black business growth, community wealth, and access to financial tools. Provide real-world lessons about fundraising, resilience, leadership, and community building. Key Takeaways 1. Success Is a Process, Not an Overnight Event Wilson emphasizes that The Gathering Spot took years of planning, pitching, and rejection before launching. The popular narrative of “instant success” hides the real work required. Takeaway: Consistency and belief matter more than early validation. 2. Rejection Can Be a Signal You’re Early—Not Wrong Wilson was told “no” 97 times before securing his first investor. Instead of discouragement, he saw rejection as proof that he was pursuing something others couldn’t yet see. Takeaway: If everyone understands your idea immediately, you might not be pushing far enough. 3. Atlanta Was a Strategic and Cultural Choice Atlanta was selected because of its Black leadership, business ecosystem, cultural influence, and sense of communal support. Wilson describes the city as both big and intimate—ideal for relationship building. Takeaway: Location matters, especially when building community-centered businesses. 4. The Gathering Spot Is About Belonging and Pride TGS intentionally celebrates Black culture while remaining open to all. The experience is designed to feel warm, affirming, and professional—something many members had never encountered in adult spaces. Takeaway: Spaces are never neutral; design should be intentional about who feels welcomed and valued. 5. Community Is the Product While TGS offers buildings, events, restaurants, and workspaces, Wilson is clear that the network is the real value—introducing people who otherwise may never meet. Takeaway: Relationships create opportunity faster than resources alone. 6. Fintech Is About Real Access, Not Just Education Wilson explains that after years of hosting conversations about money and wealth, TGS realized the next step was providing actual financial tools, not just dialogue. Takeaway: Empowerment requires both knowledge and access. 7. DEI Without Results Is Performative Wilson and McDonald discuss the post-2020 slowdown in corporate DEI efforts. Wilson challenges organizations to focus less on optics and more on outcomes—specifically business scale and job creation. Takeaway: The goal isn’t to “look good losing,” but to win sustainably. Notable Quotes On rejection: “It was 97 people that told us no in a row before we got to our first yes.” On purpose: “My mission is to connect people. I’m a community builder.” On fear and timing: “I didn’t want to have any regrets about not trying.” On intentional design: “I was thinking about Black folks when we were building The Gathering Spot.” On DEI efforts: “Do you really want to win or look good losing?” On scale and impact: “It’s not enough to start Black-owned businesses—we have to watch them grow.” #SHMS #BEST #STRAW See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    20 min
  6. Overcoming the Odds: A stroke survivor, entrepreneur, motivational speaker, and founder of Slight Edge Consulting.

    9H AGO

    Overcoming the Odds: A stroke survivor, entrepreneur, motivational speaker, and founder of Slight Edge Consulting.

    Listen and subscribe to Money Making Conversations on iHeartRadio, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, www.moneymakingconversations.com/subscribe/ or wherever you listen to podcasts. New Money Making Conversations episodes drop daily.  I want to alert you, so you don’t miss out on expert analysis and insider perspectives from my guests who provide tips that can help you uplift the community, improve your financial planning, motivation, or advice on how to be a successful entrepreneur.  Keep winning! Two-time Emmy and Three-time NAACP Image Award-winning, television Executive Producer Rushion McDonald interviewed Wendell Graham. A stroke survivor, entrepreneur, motivational speaker, and founder of Slight Edge Consulting, joins Rushion McDonald to share a deeply personal and powerful story of survival, resilience, and purpose-driven entrepreneurship. Graham recounts two life-altering experiences: Surviving a fatal Amtrak train crash in which the person who took his place died, causing years of survivor’s remorse. Suffering an anaphylactic shock and stroke in 2024, which temporarily robbed him of speech, memory, mobility, and independence. Rather than allowing these moments to define him negatively, Graham reframed them as assignments—calling him to live intentionally, help others overcome “the hump,” and use his lived experience as intellectual property to serve, coach, and motivate people through adversity, business challenges, fear, and self-doubt. The interview blends emotional storytelling with practical insights into personal growth, sales, mindset, recovery, faith, and entrepreneurship. Purpose of the Interview The interview aims to: Inspire listeners to persevere through trauma, loss, and setbacks. Demonstrate how adversity can become purpose and value, not limitation. Show how lived experience translates into income and impact, especially for entrepreneurs. Encourage patience during recovery, whether from health issues, career loss, or personal failure. Promote Slight Edge Consulting as a resource for individuals stuck at the “15%” holding them back. Key Takeaways 1. Survival Creates Responsibility After narrowly avoiding the Amtrak crash that killed 47 people, Graham vowed not to waste his life and to live with intention. Takeaway: Survival is not luck—it’s an assignment. 2. Trauma Is Real, but It Can Be Transformed Graham openly discusses survivor’s remorse, PTSD, fear, discouragement, and self-doubt—especially after his stroke. Takeaway: Healing is messy, slow, and honest—but possible. 3. Recovery Requires Patience With Yourself Following his stroke, Graham had to relearn how to speak, walk, and think clearly. Progress came through patience, humility, and repetition. Takeaway: Every recovery has its own timeline—don’t rush the process. 4. Money Is a Byproduct of Action and Value Graham explains that income flows from prior action, knowledge, and intellectual property—not the other way around. Takeaway: Focus on value first; money follows. 5. Most People Already Have 85% of What They Need Through Slight Edge Consulting, Graham helps clients identify and fix the missing 15%—mindset, confidence, access, skills, or strategy. Takeaway: You’re closer to success than you think. 6. Sales Is the Transfer of Feeling Sales isn’t pressure or manipulation—it’s enthusiasm, belief, and confidence communicated clearly. Takeaway: If you don’t believe in what you’re selling, no one else will. 7. Fear Grows When You Stand Still Standing at the “hump” makes it feel larger. Movement shrinks fear. Takeaway: Action reduces intimidation. 8. Give Yourself Permission to Be Great Too many people wait for validation, approval, or perfect timing that never comes. Takeaway: The cavalry is not coming—now is your time. Notable Quotes On surviving tragedy: “I made a vow that I was not going to be irresponsible with the time that I have left.” On the stroke and recovery: “Physically, it was like being locked inside of your body.” On honesty in healing: “We tell the success story, but what about the middle?” On patience: “We have to be patient with ourselves in any recovery process.” On mindset and entrepreneurship: “Money is only the byproduct of something.” On personal growth: “Most people have 85% of what they need—it’s the 15% that’s holding them back.” On sales: “Selling is nothing more than transferring feeling.” On fear and permission: “Give yourself permission to be great. The cavalry is not coming.” #SHMS #STRAW #BEST See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    26 min
  7. Overcoming the Odds:  His story showcases how family heritage and values can shape a business vision across generations.

    APR 14

    Overcoming the Odds: His story showcases how family heritage and values can shape a business vision across generations.

    Listen and subscribe to Money Making Conversations on iHeartRadio, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, www.moneymakingconversations.com/subscribe/ or wherever you listen to podcasts. New Money Making Conversations episodes drop daily.  I want to alert you, so you don’t miss out on expert analysis and insider perspectives from my guests who provide tips that can help you uplift the community, improve your financial planning, motivation, or advice on how to be a successful entrepreneur.  Keep winning! Two-time Emmy and Three-time NAACP Image Award-winning, television Executive Producer Rushion McDonald interviewed Robert Fitzpatrick, a Navy veteran, business consultant, fraternity brother (ΩΨΦ), and now the owner reviving his family’s historic Texas barbecue legacy. The conversation dives deeply into Fitzpatrick’s upbringing, his father’s groundbreaking barbecue business in 1950s Texas, his educational and military journey, his corporate career, and his decision to launch Dewey’s Barbecue Market in Skokie, Illinois—honoring his father’s original recipes and values. The interview blends entrepreneurship, legacy, cultural history, and personal transformation, while highlighting the courage of Fitzpatrick’s father and the humility and faith-driven foundation of his family. Purpose of the Interview The interview aims to: 1. Inspire entrepreneurship and legacy-building Fitzpatrick’s story showcases how family heritage and values can shape a business vision across generations. 2. Highlight resilience, faith, and leadership His upbringing in a household rooted in Christian humility, strong expectations, and boundary-breaking courage provides a blueprint for character-driven success. 3. Educate listeners on transitioning careers Fitzpatrick exemplifies pivoting from engineering and corporate consulting to pursuing passion-driven entrepreneurship. 4. Promote Dewey’s Barbecue Market The interview introduces the Chicago-area community—especially the Skokie region—to his upcoming restaurant built on a 70-year-old Texas barbecue tradition. Key Takeaways 1. A powerful family legacy rooted in courage Fitzpatrick’s father, Dewey, opened a barbecue restaurant in 1951—before desegregation—and insisted that Blacks and whites could eat together. He enforced respect and safety in his establishment, even confronting racist patrons. 2. Education was non-negotiable in the Fitzpatrick household Robert is the youngest of seven siblings, all college graduates; five hold master’s degrees. He himself holds an MBA and an MS in Management Information Systems. 3. A bridge between technology and business Fitzpatrick spent decades in consulting with major firms (EDS, Dell, Arthur Andersen, KPMG) focusing on business process improvement. His dual MS/MBA made him a translator between tech and finance. 4. Military discipline shaped his personal and professional life Served in the U.S. Navy from 1986–1990, plus reserve duty (including deployment to Iraq). Balanced military service with graduate studies and advancing his corporate career. 5. A calling to revive his father’s barbecue His wife recognized his talent early, telling him for years he should be barbecuing. A shortage of good Texas barbecue in Virginia pushed him to recreate his father’s recipes. 6. Skokie, Illinois: the ideal launchpad After moving to the Great Lakes Naval Base area for a federal role, Fitzpatrick began scouting locations. Skokie offered: active support from city leadership grants an ideal building community enthusiasm 7. Dewey’s Barbecue Market offerings Meats: brisket, sausage, hot links, smoked boudin (monthly special) Sides: potato salad (egg/mayo base), pineapple vinegar coleslaw, fried okra, smoked pinto beans Desserts: apple cobbler, blueberry cobbler, sweet potato pie, possibly fried pies Bread: sliced “light bread” for dipping—traditional Texas style Experience: dine-in with 60s–80s “feel-good” music 8. A commitment to doing things the right way Fitzpatrick refuses to launch unless he can deliver “the best product on the planet.” Focuses on simplicity, authenticity, and quality. Notable Quotes About his father and legacy “He said anybody who wants to eat here can eat here.”(His father defying segregation laws in the 1950s.) “I can call an undertaker or an ambulance. Which one do you prefer?”(Dewey enforcing respect from a belligerent white customer.) “That was my barbecue.”(On being raised around his father’s legendary pit.) About family and humility “We are firmly rooted in Christ. If you try to get too big, He has a way of humbling you.” “Seven kids, all with degrees… that’s normal to you. But we know that’s not normal.”(McDonald highlighting the family’s extraordinary achievement.) About his calling “If I didn’t think I was bringing the best product on the planet, I wouldn’t even do it.” “My wife tasted the barbecue and said, ‘This is what you need to be doing.’” About launching in Skokie “They really want me to be there… the economic development team didn’t treat it like just another restaurant.” Short 3–5 Sentence Summary (For Quick Use) In his interview with Rushion McDonald, Robert Fitzpatrick shares his journey from Navy veteran and Fortune 500 consultant to entrepreneur reviving his family’s historic Texas barbecue. He describes growing up with a courageous father who defied segregation in 1951 by serving Black and white customers together, and a family culture steeped in education, discipline, and humility. Fitzpatrick’s passion for barbecue and encouragement from his wife led him to bring his father’s 70-year-old recipes to Skokie, Illinois through Dewey’s Barbecue Market. The interview emphasizes legacy, faith, courage, and the pursuit of purpose. #SHMS #STRAW #BEST See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    27 min
  8. Motivation: From project failures to the death of his father, he shows how adversity can reshape purpose and leadership.

    APR 9

    Motivation: From project failures to the death of his father, he shows how adversity can reshape purpose and leadership.

    Listen and subscribe to Money Making Conversations on iHeartRadio, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, www.moneymakingconversations.com/subscribe/ or wherever you listen to podcasts. New Money Making Conversations episodes drop daily.  I want to alert you, so you don’t miss out on expert analysis and insider perspectives from my guests who provide tips that can help you uplift the community, improve your financial planning, motivation, or advice on how to be a successful entrepreneur.  Keep winning! Two-time Emmy and Three-time NAACP Image Award-winning, television Executive Producer Rushion McDonald interviewed Lavar Thomas. Motivational speaker, author, Peace Corps alumnus, leadership coach, and founder of Empower for Greatness. Lavar’s mission is to help people transform “from the inside out” so they can live with greater intention and purpose. The conversation explores Lavar’s upbringing in Brownsville, Brooklyn; his life-changing Peace Corps service in Rwanda; his understanding of faith, purpose, failure, and leadership; and how he built international development programs such as Leaders of the Free World, which exposes young Black men to global travel and leadership experiences. He discusses how stepping outside his comfort zone—from traveling abroad for the first time to navigating Rwanda after only knowing it through “Hotel Rwanda”—opened his worldview, deepened his empathy, and developed his leadership style. Lavar explains how a major project failure in the Peace Corps forced him to redefine success beyond titles, money, or recognition. This experience ultimately inspired his book, The Other Side of Letting Go. He also shares how he balances a federal government job with building his speaking and training company. The interview concludes with a powerful discussion on purpose, reinvention, leadership, and the role travel plays in expanding one’s mindset—especially for communities that are historically underrepresented in global spaces. PURPOSE OF THE INTERVIEW 1. To highlight Lavar’s transformative journey from Brooklyn to global leadership. Rushion showcases how Lavar’s experiences shaped his philosophy and mission. 2. To educate listeners about purpose‑driven living and leadership Lavar explains why purpose—not money—is the “real currency,” and how aligning with purpose drives impact. 3. To inspire people to step beyond their comfort zones The interview emphasizes how discomfort and uncertainty can spark growth. 4. To reveal the value of international exposure for Black men Through Leaders of the Free World, Lavar advocates for global experiences that shift identity and opportunity. 5. To discuss resilience, reinvention, and personal development From project failures to the death of his father, Lavar shows how adversity can reshape purpose and leadership. KEY TAKEAWAYS 1. Faith requires action Lavar describes faith as taking steps without knowing the outcome—“believing in the future before it becomes reality.” 2. Growth happens outside the comfort zone Comfort zones feel safe, but they also create limits; stepping beyond them leads to self‑awareness and transformation. 3. The Peace Corps experience was life‑changing Rwanda taught him service, humility, language, cultural understanding, and the power of community trust. 4. Failure can be an important redirection When his library project collapsed, Lavar learned to detach from ego and redefine success through impact, not image. 5. Purpose is the real currency Operating in purpose helps you add value, understand your worth, and ultimately generate income more meaningfully. 6. Leadership includes being willing to pivot He shifted from a failed library project to impactful malnutrition programs, partnering with USAID to train families. 7. Personal setbacks can sharpen identity and mission His father’s death led him to pause graduate school, attend therapy, and rebuild himself—learning leadership through vulnerability. 8. Global exposure changes lives Leaders of the Free World gives young Black men access to international travel, allowing them to reimagine their potential. NOTABLE QUOTES On faith “Faith is taking steps without even knowing the outcome… believing in the future I see in my mind before I see it in reality.” On stepping outside comfort zones “Every time I step beyond that line, I grew… I realized new possibilities for myself.” On failure “Failure is life redirecting you.” (Recalling Oprah’s teaching). On purpose “Purpose is the real currency.” On redefining success “I had to learn how to redefine success for myself—not in the glamor of a project, but the impact I was having.” On reinvention after loss “I had to step away and rebuild LaVar… focusing on my family taught me so much about leadership.” On travel and identity “Something shifts in them when they return. They see their lives differently and their community differently.” #STRAW #BEST #SHMS See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    28 min
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Hi, this is Rushion McDonald. Welcome to the podcast world of Money Making Conversations Master Class. I interview profits and nonprofits to learn their "Secrets to Success."  I'm a former IBM Executive with a degree in Mathematics. I started my entrepreneurial career as a stand-up comic, then became a sitcom writer, award-winning baker, social media influencer, award-winning television Executive Producer, and brand architect for super-successful celebrities and products. Money Making Conversations Master Class interviews a diverse group of celebrities, entrepreneurs, and influencers in the financial and business community with their advice and tips so you can be successful, too. It's time to stop reading other people's success stories and start building your own. People always talk about their purpose or gifts. If you have a gift, Lead with your Gift, and don't let your friends, family, or co-workers stop you from planning or living your dream. Keep Winning! https://www.moneymakingconversations.com https://www.youtube.com/MoneyMakingConversations https://www.facebook.com/MoneyMakingConversations/ https://twitter.com/moneymakingconv https://www.instagram.com/moneymakingconversations/

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