Money Making Conversations Master Class

Rushion McDonald

Hi, this is Rushion McDonald. Welcome to the podcast world of Money Making Conversations Master Class. I interview profits and nonprofits to learn their "Secrets to Success."  I'm a former IBM Executive with a degree in Mathematics. I started my entrepreneurial career as a stand-up comic, then became a sitcom writer, award-winning baker, social media influencer, award-winning television Executive Producer, and brand architect for super-successful celebrities and products. Money Making Conversations Master Class interviews a diverse group of celebrities, entrepreneurs, and influencers in the financial and business community with their advice and tips so you can be successful, too. It's time to stop reading other people's success stories and start building your own. People always talk about their purpose or gifts. If you have a gift, Lead with your Gift, and don't let your friends, family, or co-workers stop you from planning or living your dream. Keep Winning! https://www.moneymakingconversations.com https://www.youtube.com/MoneyMakingConversations https://www.facebook.com/MoneyMakingConversations/ https://twitter.com/moneymakingconv https://www.instagram.com/moneymakingconversations/

  1. Money Talk: The Five Financial Stratospheres is his Wealth Coaching Stratosphere that outlines his five levels of financial development.

    32M AGO

    Money Talk: The Five Financial Stratospheres is his Wealth Coaching Stratosphere that outlines his five levels of financial development.

    Listen and subscribe to Money Making Conversations on iHeartRadio, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, www.moneymakingconversations.com/subscribe/ or wherever you listen to podcasts. New Money Making Conversations episodes drop daily.  I want to alert you, so you don’t miss out on expert analysis and insider perspectives from my guests who provide tips that can help you uplift the community, improve your financial planning, motivation, or advice on how to be a successful entrepreneur.  Keep winning! Two-time Emmy and Three-time NAACP Image Award-winning, television Executive Producer Rushion McDonald interviewed Mujahid Muhammad. Interview Summary Interview with Rushion McDonald – Money Making Conversations Masterclass Interview Purpose The purpose of this interview is to demystify personal finance, redefine wealth‑building, and emphasize the importance of preparation, capitalization, and disciplined planning. Mujahid Muhammad, a personal financial coach and founder of Wealth Coaching Stratosphere, shares a deeply personal journey marked by financial success, failure, rebuilding, and hard‑earned wisdom. Through candid storytelling, the interview reframes wealth not as risky speculation or quick wins, but as a long‑term process grounded in personal financial stability, liquidity, and informed decision‑making. The conversation is designed to help everyday people avoid common financial traps and approach real estate and investing from a position of strength rather than desperation. Major Themes & Key Takeaways 1. Experience Is the Best Teacher Mujahid’s financial philosophy is rooted in lived experience. After building a seven‑figure real estate portfolio early in life, he suffered devastating losses due to Hurricane Katrina and the 2008 housing collapse. These setbacks reshaped his understanding of leverage, risk, and preparation. Key takeaway: Financial success without safeguards can collapse quickly. 2. Leverage Without Liquidity Is Dangerous One of the most powerful lessons Mujahid shares is that being “asset‑rich but cash‑poor” is a vulnerable position. His earlier strategy relied heavily on leverage without sufficient reserves, leaving him exposed when disaster struck. Key takeaway: Liquidity is protection; leverage alone is not wealth. 3. Fix Personal Finance Before Building Businesses Mujahid stresses that many people pursue entrepreneurship or real estate in hopes of fixing personal financial struggles—often with disastrous results. Instead, personal financial stability must come first. Key takeaway: Solve your personal finances before using business to create wealth. 4. Wealth Is a Process, Not a Product The interview reinforces that financial improvement isn’t something you buy—it’s something you build over time. Mujahid emphasizes facing financial reality honestly instead of avoiding uncomfortable truths. Key takeaway: Progress starts by looking at the numbers, not ignoring them. 5. The Five Financial Stratospheres Mujahid introduces his Wealth Coaching Stratosphere model, outlining five levels of financial development: Financial Failure Financial Health Financial Fluency Financial Wealth Financial Independence Each stage represents a mindset and requires different behaviors and priorities. Key takeaway: Knowing your financial “stratosphere” determines your next move. 6. Capitalization Comes Before Real Estate Mujahid advises against entering real estate before reaching financial fluency. While creative financing exists, retaining real estate requires cash flow, reserves, and patience. Key takeaway: You can buy property with little money—but you cannot keep it that way. 7. The Importance of Capital and Opportunity Funds He emphasizes saving, emergency funds, and opportunity funds as prerequisites to investing. Capital allows individuals to recognize and act on opportunities without panic. Key takeaway: Capital creates clarity—and choices. 8. Infinite Banking and Financial Autonomy Mujahid explains the Infinite Banking Concept, which focuses on reclaiming control over the banking function through properly structured life insurance, allowing individuals to access capital without relying on traditional lenders. Key takeaway: Financial independence includes controlling how you access capital. 9. Debt Freedom Is Hard—but Worth It Through personal stories of tackling significant student loan and consumer debt, Mujahid emphasizes that debt freedom requires sacrifice, time, and unity—especially within marriage. Key takeaway: Debt freedom is attainable, but only through commitment and discipline. 10. Coaching Provides Accountability and Perspective Mujahid describes financial coaching as objective guidance from someone who has navigated the journey before. Coaching is positioned as a serious commitment, not casual advice. Key takeaway: Accountability accelerates growth. Notable Quotes “Leverage without liquidity is stupidity.” “We try to use business to solve personal finance problems—and that’s backwards.” “Wealth is a process, not a product.” “You can acquire real estate with no money—but you can’t keep it that way.” “Capitalization changes how you see opportunity.” “If you have a six‑figure income, your problem is usually you.” “Debt freedom is hard—but it’s worth it.” “Preparation puts you in a position of strength.” Overall Message Mujahid Muhammad’s interview is a ground‑truth masterclass in financial realism and discipline. His story strips away hype and reframes wealth creation as a methodical, values‑driven process that begins with personal accountability and preparation. Ultimately, the conversation challenges listeners to shift from chasing opportunity to becoming prepared for opportunity, reinforcing that sustainable wealth is built through patience, liquidity, education, and intentional planning. #SHMS #STRAW #BEST #AMI See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    30 min
  2. Overcoming the Odds: African American woman rose from baggage handler to become President of JetSuite and Chief Growth Officer at Wheels Up.

    2H AGO

    Overcoming the Odds: African American woman rose from baggage handler to become President of JetSuite and Chief Growth Officer at Wheels Up.

    Listen and subscribe to Money Making Conversations on iHeartRadio, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, www.moneymakingconversations.com/subscribe/ or wherever you listen to podcasts. New Money Making Conversations episodes drop daily.  I want to alert you, so you don’t miss out on expert analysis and insider perspectives from my guests who provide tips that can help you uplift the community, improve your financial planning, motivation, or advice on how to be a successful entrepreneur.  Keep winning! Two-time Emmy and Three-time NAACP Image Award-winning, television Executive Producer Rushion McDonald interviewed Stephanie Chung.  A trailblazer in private aviation and author of Ally Leadership: How to Lead People Who Are Not Like You. ✈️ Key Topics Discussed 1. Stephanie Chung’s Career Journey Started as a baggage handler. Rose to become President of JetSuite and Chief Growth Officer at Wheels Up. One of the few African American women to lead in private aviation. 2. Understanding Private Aviation Private jets offer flexibility and convenience—you fly on your schedule. Access to 5,000+ airports vs. 500 for commercial airlines. Used not just by celebrities, but also high-net-worth individuals and for humanitarian missions. 3. Ally Leadership Philosophy Today’s workforce includes six generations, diverse ethnicities, genders, neurodiversity, and LGBTQ+ individuals. Leadership must evolve to meet people where they are. The book emphasizes inclusive leadership beyond race and gender. 4. Leadership Lessons Importance of human connection and empathy. Knowing your team beyond their job titles—understanding their lives and motivations. Listening is as important as speaking. 5. Generational Differences in the Workplace Millennials and Gen Z value work-life balance and flexibility. Older generations often driven by fear of being replaced or missing opportunities. Leaders must bridge these gaps with understanding and adaptability. 6. The Role of Fear Fear can hinder growth, especially in older generations. Fear of technology, being replaced, or taking time off. Good leadership helps alleviate fear and fosters collaboration. 💬 Memorable Quotes “You don’t have to be a celebrity to fly private. Most people who do, you’ve never heard of.” “Ally leadership is not just about race or gender—it’s about everyone.” “If it’s a problem with millennials, we raised them. Look in the mirror.” “The differentiator isn’t just your product—it’s the human connection.” “Decisions are made by people who look left, right, and forward—never behind. Stay in their line of sight.” #STRAW #BEST #SHMS See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    31 min
  3. Health Tips: She highlights how massage therapy supports physical and emotional wellness, including stress, posture, and pain relief.

    6H AGO

    Health Tips: She highlights how massage therapy supports physical and emotional wellness, including stress, posture, and pain relief.

    Listen and subscribe to Money Making Conversations on iHeartRadio, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, www.moneymakingconversations.com/subscribe/ or wherever you listen to podcasts. New Money Making Conversations episodes drop daily.  I want to alert you, so you don’t miss out on expert analysis and insider perspectives from my guests who provide tips that can help you uplift the community, improve your financial planning, motivation, or advice on how to be a successful entrepreneur.  Keep winning! Two-time Emmy and Three-time NAACP Image Award-winning, television Executive Producer Rushion McDonald interviewed Jasmine Hood Founder of Better Bodies Massage in Atlanta (originally from Greenville, South Carolina), joined Rushion McDonald on Money Making Conversations Masterclass to share her journey from CNA to licensed massage therapist, the realities of being a traveling service provider, and the wellness benefits of massage therapy. She discusses body alignment, stress, trauma release, the differences between massage modalities, alternative treatments like cupping, entrepreneurship during COVID‑19, safety considerations for mobile therapists, corporate/wellness partnerships, and her long‑term goal of building a scalable massage brand supported by contractors. 🎯 Purpose of the Interview The interview aims to: Highlight how massage therapy supports physical and emotional wellness, including stress, posture, and pain relief. Educate listeners on the types of massages, proper stretching techniques, and how body tension accumulates. Explore entrepreneurship in the wellness space, including launching a business during COVID‑19. Discuss safety and professionalism in mobile massage therapy. Show how Jasmine is building a sustainable small business through networking, corporate events, and contractor partnerships. 🔑 Key Takeaways 1. Career Shift & Fearless Beginnings Jasmine switched from working as a CNA to moving to Atlanta alone with no support system—motivated by a desire for change and inspired by her mother’s independence. She emphasized overcoming fear and taking leaps even when circumstances are uncertain. 2. Massage Therapy Is Both Physical & Emotional Healing Massage releases tension, trauma, and stress stored in the body, especially in the neck, shoulders, and lower back. Many people carry pain from work, daily habits, or emotional strain—and massage helps restore balance. 3. The Three Most Popular Massage Types Jasmine explained the differences clearly: Swedish Massage — Gentle, relaxing, ideal for beginners and stress relief. Deep Tissue — Targets chronic pain and trigger points but may be intense for clients who are not accustomed to it. Sports Massage — Faster movements, stretching, and ideal for athletes. She stressed that deep tissue should not be rushed—the muscle needs warming before intense pressure. 4. Stretching Is Critical—Most People Do It Wrong Stretching should be held 30 seconds to 1 minute, not quick movements or rolling the neck. Consistent stretching prevents the “tight forward lean” posture many people develop. Lower‑body stretches (glutes, hamstrings, hips) dramatically improve back pain. 5. Travel Massage: Safety, Boundaries & Professionalism Jasmine screens new clients by phone before accepting appointments. She immediately declines inappropriate requests (e.g., sexualized services). She only sees first‑time clients during daylight and shares her location with trusted contacts. She maintains a clear, therapeutic-only brand despite public misconceptions. 6. Entrepreneurship Journey & Business Model She built her business during COVID‑19, initially offering lower prices, then raising them as her brand grew. Corporate wellness events and golf tournaments became a major revenue stream. She hires contractors to scale for events. Her long‑term goal is “mailbox money”—a business run by a team while she steps away from hands-on work. 7. Alternative Treatment: Cupping Therapy Cupping uses suction to pull stagnant blood, loosen muscle tissue, and improve circulation. Cups can remain stationary or be moved along the back to flush tension. 8. The Jasmine Experience Sessions are designed around clients’ comfort, in their own homes, with their preferred music and ambiance. Post‑massage, clients can immediately rest—no stress of getting dressed or driving home. 🗣️ Notable Quotes ✔ On taking risks “I just jumped up and moved. I didn’t know anyone… I just said I’m going to start over.” ✔ On stress in the body “We all carry trauma. When you’re stressed, it all ends up in your body.” ✔ On deep tissue massage “If it gets to be too much, let me know. Don’t be afraid to speak up.” ✔ On stretching “If you don’t use it, you’re going to lose it.” ✔ On business growth “Some days are easy and some days are like… alright, don’t know. But you keep going.” ✔ On long‑term goals “I don’t plan on being hands-on forever. The goal is to build my brand and have a team I can send out—like Amazon.” #SHMS #STRAW #BEST See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    28 min
  4. Marketing: She emphasizes the importance of aligning personal identity with brand strategy, especially in the digital age.

    6H AGO

    Marketing: She emphasizes the importance of aligning personal identity with brand strategy, especially in the digital age.

    Listen and subscribe to Money Making Conversations on iHeartRadio, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, www.moneymakingconversations.com/subscribe/ or wherever you listen to podcasts. New Money Making Conversations episodes drop daily.  I want to alert you, so you don’t miss out on expert analysis and insider perspectives from my guests who provide tips that can help you uplift the community, improve your financial planning, motivation, or advice on how to be a successful entrepreneur.  Keep winning! Two-time Emmy and Three-time NAACP Image Award-winning, television Executive Producer Rushion McDonald interviewed Stacey Gholar.   🔹 Summary of the Interview Stacey Gholar, founder of Bloom Creative Agency, shares her journey from being a young mother in Chicago to becoming a brand strategist and creative entrepreneur with over 20 years of experience in marketing, media, and business. She emphasizes the importance of aligning personal identity with brand strategy, especially in the digital age. Stacey discusses her approach to brand audits, the role of social media, the impact of AI, and her passion for empowering women through entrepreneurship and skincare. 🔹 Key Takeaways 1. What Is a Brand Strategist? A brand strategist helps individuals and businesses define and articulate their brand clearly. “You are the brand, but you have to put the brand together in a way that people can articulate what you do.” 2. Social Media Strategy Stacey conducts social media audits to ensure alignment between personal and business branding. She recommends having separate personal and business accounts, but acknowledges blending them when appropriate. 3. Discovery Process Her process starts with a discovery call to understand the client’s “why” and goals. She believes passion must drive entrepreneurship—not just money. 4. Digital Branding & AI Stacey identifies as a digital brand specialist, helping Gen X women and others pivot into digital spaces. She uses AI tools like ChatGPT and Google Gemini to enhance productivity but values human connection. “AI is an asset… but I don’t solely rely on it.” 5. Email Marketing Email is still vital: “If you're solely on social media, you can lose your business in a minute.” She advocates for funnel systems and community building outside of social platforms. 6. Going Viral vs. Being Valuable “You don’t need to go viral. You just need to be valuable.” She went viral unintentionally with a review of Harold’s Chicken, but stresses the importance of sustainable value over fleeting attention. 7. Brand Refresh & Outreach Most of her clients come through word of mouth, but she’s expanding her reach via social media. She encourages clients to step out of their comfort zones and engage in community-driven initiatives. 8. Skincare Line Stacey founded Skin Light Skincare at age 50 to promote pro-aging and natural beauty. She now focuses on organic body oils that are clean, hydrating, and hormone-safe. 🔹 Notable Quotes “Experience has been the best teacher for me.” “You don’t need to go viral. You just need to be valuable.” “If you stop learning, you stop growing.” “I want you to be a part of building your brand—not just me doing it for you.” “Social media is great, but word of mouth is still real.” #SHMS #STRAW #BEST See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    34 min
  5. Money Talk: He is focused on expanding diversity in the financial services industry.

    6H AGO

    Money Talk: He is focused on expanding diversity in the financial services industry.

    Listen and subscribe to Money Making Conversations on iHeartRadio, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, www.moneymakingconversations.com/subscribe/ or wherever you listen to podcasts. New Money Making Conversations episodes drop daily.  I want to alert you, so you don’t miss out on expert analysis and insider perspectives from my guests who provide tips that can help you uplift the community, improve your financial planning, motivation, or advice on how to be a successful entrepreneur.  Keep winning! Two-time Emmy and Three-time NAACP Image Award-winning, television Executive Producer Rushion McDonald interviewed Brett Chestnut. Managing Director of Northwestern Mutual Goodwin, Wright Gwinnett. The conversation centers on Brett’s mission as a financial leader, his journey from engineering to financial planning, his commitment to mentoring, and his focus on expanding diversity in the financial services industry. Brett describes how he transitioned from engineering in 2015 to financial planning because he wanted to help people regain the ability to dream—not just survive. He discusses his work in recruiting diverse advisors, supporting career‑shifting professionals, mentoring, and educating people on foundational financial decision‑making. The interview also explores money mindsets, budgeting, the challenges of building wealth in communities of color, and the often‑overlooked emotional side of money. Brett emphasizes starting with the basics, not skipping steps (e.g., jumping straight to cryptocurrency), and building strong financial foundations. Rushion repeatedly highlights Brett as a powerful brand and role model, underscoring the importance of Black leadership in financial fields and the role of representation in increasing trust and access. Purpose of the Interview The interview’s purpose is to: 1. Introduce Brett Chestnut as a trusted financial leader Rushion aims to elevate Brett’s visibility as a Black managing director in financial services—an industry where representation has traditionally been limited. 2. Educate listeners on financial empowerment Brett provides practical, relatable guidance on budgeting, investing, career transitions, and developing financial discipline. 3. Highlight Northwestern Mutual’s diversity initiatives Brett explains how the company is intentionally investing in diverse advisors and underserved markets. 4. Inspire career‑based and financial self‑reflection He encourages people to examine their spending habits, consider new career paths, and align decisions with long-term goals. 5. Promote mentorship and community uplift Both Brett and Rushion stress the transformative power of mentorship and generational investment. Key Takeaways 1. Financial empowerment starts with awareness Brett urges everyone to analyze their last 2–3 months of spending to understand what their habits really prioritize. 2. You must “choose your hard” Saving and planning may be difficult now, but the alternative is harder later. Financial success requires discipline, not magic formulas. 3. Wealth building is emotional as much as logical Money connects to family, relationships, self‑worth, stress, and confidence. Advisors must understand clients emotionally, not just mathematically—especially women and diverse communities. 4. Don’t skip steps (especially with investing and crypto) Many want to “get rich fast,” but Brett warns that skipping foundational steps (budgeting, savings, retirement planning) leads to confusion and poor decisions. 5. Mentorship works only with real relationship True mentorship requires understanding someone’s full life story, not just giving advice. 6. Representation matters in financial services Northwestern Mutual is investing heavily in diverse advisors not just for optics, but because entire markets have been historically underserved. 7. Closing the wealth gap requires generational strategy One generation must be willing to be selfless, disciplined, and intentional with assets to move future generations forward. 8. Brett sees his work as multiplying impact By developing new advisors and helping create “15 millionaires,” he hopes to create compounding community uplift. Notable Quotes  On financial empowerment “I want people to dream again. We’re not dreaming no more—we’re living because of obligation.” “When we’re born we look like our parents, but when we die, we look like our decisions.” On career purpose “I help people who are successful but career‑disturbed. They want more.” On money habits “Look at your last three months of spending. Your money tells you what your real priorities are.” On investing and crypto “People want to skip steps… going from no savings straight to crypto.” “If you don’t understand it, maybe it’s not time for you to invest in it.” On mentorship “To give someone feedback without relationship is harassment.” “Let me hear your story… mentorship starts with knowing the inner person.” On diversity and empowerment “Their growth strategy is diversity… whole markets haven’t even been called on yet.” On community and identity “We’re special… if we regain that confidence and approach the marketplace with courage, everything changes.” On wealth-building reality “You have to choose your hard. Hard now or hard later.” #SHMS #STRAW #BEST See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    38 min
  6. Overcoming the Odds:  His story showcases how family heritage and values can shape a business vision across generations.

    APR 14

    Overcoming the Odds: His story showcases how family heritage and values can shape a business vision across generations.

    Listen and subscribe to Money Making Conversations on iHeartRadio, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, www.moneymakingconversations.com/subscribe/ or wherever you listen to podcasts. New Money Making Conversations episodes drop daily.  I want to alert you, so you don’t miss out on expert analysis and insider perspectives from my guests who provide tips that can help you uplift the community, improve your financial planning, motivation, or advice on how to be a successful entrepreneur.  Keep winning! Two-time Emmy and Three-time NAACP Image Award-winning, television Executive Producer Rushion McDonald interviewed Robert Fitzpatrick, a Navy veteran, business consultant, fraternity brother (ΩΨΦ), and now the owner reviving his family’s historic Texas barbecue legacy. The conversation dives deeply into Fitzpatrick’s upbringing, his father’s groundbreaking barbecue business in 1950s Texas, his educational and military journey, his corporate career, and his decision to launch Dewey’s Barbecue Market in Skokie, Illinois—honoring his father’s original recipes and values. The interview blends entrepreneurship, legacy, cultural history, and personal transformation, while highlighting the courage of Fitzpatrick’s father and the humility and faith-driven foundation of his family. Purpose of the Interview The interview aims to: 1. Inspire entrepreneurship and legacy-building Fitzpatrick’s story showcases how family heritage and values can shape a business vision across generations. 2. Highlight resilience, faith, and leadership His upbringing in a household rooted in Christian humility, strong expectations, and boundary-breaking courage provides a blueprint for character-driven success. 3. Educate listeners on transitioning careers Fitzpatrick exemplifies pivoting from engineering and corporate consulting to pursuing passion-driven entrepreneurship. 4. Promote Dewey’s Barbecue Market The interview introduces the Chicago-area community—especially the Skokie region—to his upcoming restaurant built on a 70-year-old Texas barbecue tradition. Key Takeaways 1. A powerful family legacy rooted in courage Fitzpatrick’s father, Dewey, opened a barbecue restaurant in 1951—before desegregation—and insisted that Blacks and whites could eat together. He enforced respect and safety in his establishment, even confronting racist patrons. 2. Education was non-negotiable in the Fitzpatrick household Robert is the youngest of seven siblings, all college graduates; five hold master’s degrees. He himself holds an MBA and an MS in Management Information Systems. 3. A bridge between technology and business Fitzpatrick spent decades in consulting with major firms (EDS, Dell, Arthur Andersen, KPMG) focusing on business process improvement. His dual MS/MBA made him a translator between tech and finance. 4. Military discipline shaped his personal and professional life Served in the U.S. Navy from 1986–1990, plus reserve duty (including deployment to Iraq). Balanced military service with graduate studies and advancing his corporate career. 5. A calling to revive his father’s barbecue His wife recognized his talent early, telling him for years he should be barbecuing. A shortage of good Texas barbecue in Virginia pushed him to recreate his father’s recipes. 6. Skokie, Illinois: the ideal launchpad After moving to the Great Lakes Naval Base area for a federal role, Fitzpatrick began scouting locations. Skokie offered: active support from city leadership grants an ideal building community enthusiasm 7. Dewey’s Barbecue Market offerings Meats: brisket, sausage, hot links, smoked boudin (monthly special) Sides: potato salad (egg/mayo base), pineapple vinegar coleslaw, fried okra, smoked pinto beans Desserts: apple cobbler, blueberry cobbler, sweet potato pie, possibly fried pies Bread: sliced “light bread” for dipping—traditional Texas style Experience: dine-in with 60s–80s “feel-good” music 8. A commitment to doing things the right way Fitzpatrick refuses to launch unless he can deliver “the best product on the planet.” Focuses on simplicity, authenticity, and quality. Notable Quotes About his father and legacy “He said anybody who wants to eat here can eat here.”(His father defying segregation laws in the 1950s.) “I can call an undertaker or an ambulance. Which one do you prefer?”(Dewey enforcing respect from a belligerent white customer.) “That was my barbecue.”(On being raised around his father’s legendary pit.) About family and humility “We are firmly rooted in Christ. If you try to get too big, He has a way of humbling you.” “Seven kids, all with degrees… that’s normal to you. But we know that’s not normal.”(McDonald highlighting the family’s extraordinary achievement.) About his calling “If I didn’t think I was bringing the best product on the planet, I wouldn’t even do it.” “My wife tasted the barbecue and said, ‘This is what you need to be doing.’” About launching in Skokie “They really want me to be there… the economic development team didn’t treat it like just another restaurant.” Short 3–5 Sentence Summary (For Quick Use) In his interview with Rushion McDonald, Robert Fitzpatrick shares his journey from Navy veteran and Fortune 500 consultant to entrepreneur reviving his family’s historic Texas barbecue. He describes growing up with a courageous father who defied segregation in 1951 by serving Black and white customers together, and a family culture steeped in education, discipline, and humility. Fitzpatrick’s passion for barbecue and encouragement from his wife led him to bring his father’s 70-year-old recipes to Skokie, Illinois through Dewey’s Barbecue Market. The interview emphasizes legacy, faith, courage, and the pursuit of purpose. #SHMS #STRAW #BEST See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    27 min
  7. Career Change: She shares her traveling licensed massage therapist brand and the wellness benefits of her job.

    APR 9

    Career Change: She shares her traveling licensed massage therapist brand and the wellness benefits of her job.

    Listen and subscribe to Money Making Conversations on iHeartRadio, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, www.moneymakingconversations.com/subscribe/ or wherever you listen to podcasts. New Money Making Conversations episodes drop daily.  I want to alert you, so you don’t miss out on expert analysis and insider perspectives from my guests who provide tips that can help you uplift the community, improve your financial planning, motivation, or advice on how to be a successful entrepreneur.  Keep winning! Two-time Emmy and Three-time NAACP Image Award-winning, television Executive Producer Rushion McDonald interviewed Jasmine Hood Founder of Better Bodies Massage in Atlanta (originally from Greenville, South Carolina), joined Rushion McDonald on Money Making Conversations Masterclass to share her journey from CNA to licensed massage therapist, the realities of being a traveling service provider, and the wellness benefits of massage therapy. She discusses body alignment, stress, trauma release, the differences between massage modalities, alternative treatments like cupping, entrepreneurship during COVID‑19, safety considerations for mobile therapists, corporate/wellness partnerships, and her long‑term goal of building a scalable massage brand supported by contractors. 🎯 Purpose of the Interview The interview aims to: Highlight how massage therapy supports physical and emotional wellness, including stress, posture, and pain relief. Educate listeners on the types of massages, proper stretching techniques, and how body tension accumulates. Explore entrepreneurship in the wellness space, including launching a business during COVID‑19. Discuss safety and professionalism in mobile massage therapy. Show how Jasmine is building a sustainable small business through networking, corporate events, and contractor partnerships. 🔑 Key Takeaways 1. Career Shift & Fearless Beginnings Jasmine switched from working as a CNA to moving to Atlanta alone with no support system—motivated by a desire for change and inspired by her mother’s independence. She emphasized overcoming fear and taking leaps even when circumstances are uncertain. 2. Massage Therapy Is Both Physical & Emotional Healing Massage releases tension, trauma, and stress stored in the body, especially in the neck, shoulders, and lower back. Many people carry pain from work, daily habits, or emotional strain—and massage helps restore balance. 3. The Three Most Popular Massage Types Jasmine explained the differences clearly: Swedish Massage — Gentle, relaxing, ideal for beginners and stress relief. Deep Tissue — Targets chronic pain and trigger points but may be intense for clients who are not accustomed to it. Sports Massage — Faster movements, stretching, and ideal for athletes. She stressed that deep tissue should not be rushed—the muscle needs warming before intense pressure. 4. Stretching Is Critical—Most People Do It Wrong Stretching should be held 30 seconds to 1 minute, not quick movements or rolling the neck. Consistent stretching prevents the “tight forward lean” posture many people develop. Lower‑body stretches (glutes, hamstrings, hips) dramatically improve back pain. 5. Travel Massage: Safety, Boundaries & Professionalism Jasmine screens new clients by phone before accepting appointments. She immediately declines inappropriate requests (e.g., sexualized services). She only sees first‑time clients during daylight and shares her location with trusted contacts. She maintains a clear, therapeutic-only brand despite public misconceptions. 6. Entrepreneurship Journey & Business Model She built her business during COVID‑19, initially offering lower prices, then raising them as her brand grew. Corporate wellness events and golf tournaments became a major revenue stream. She hires contractors to scale for events. Her long‑term goal is “mailbox money”—a business run by a team while she steps away from hands-on work. 7. Alternative Treatment: Cupping Therapy Cupping uses suction to pull stagnant blood, loosen muscle tissue, and improve circulation. Cups can remain stationary or be moved along the back to flush tension. 8. The Jasmine Experience Sessions are designed around clients’ comfort, in their own homes, with their preferred music and ambiance. Post‑massage, clients can immediately rest—no stress of getting dressed or driving home. 🗣️ Notable Quotes ✔ On taking risks “I just jumped up and moved. I didn’t know anyone… I just said I’m going to start over.” ✔ On stress in the body “We all carry trauma. When you’re stressed, it all ends up in your body.” ✔ On deep tissue massage “If it gets to be too much, let me know. Don’t be afraid to speak up.” ✔ On stretching “If you don’t use it, you’re going to lose it.” ✔ On business growth “Some days are easy and some days are like… alright, don’t know. But you keep going.” ✔ On long‑term goals “I don’t plan on being hands-on forever. The goal is to build my brand and have a team I can send out—like Amazon.” #SHMS #STRAW #BEST See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    28 min
  8. Motivation: From project failures to the death of his father, he shows how adversity can reshape purpose and leadership.

    APR 9

    Motivation: From project failures to the death of his father, he shows how adversity can reshape purpose and leadership.

    Listen and subscribe to Money Making Conversations on iHeartRadio, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, www.moneymakingconversations.com/subscribe/ or wherever you listen to podcasts. New Money Making Conversations episodes drop daily.  I want to alert you, so you don’t miss out on expert analysis and insider perspectives from my guests who provide tips that can help you uplift the community, improve your financial planning, motivation, or advice on how to be a successful entrepreneur.  Keep winning! Two-time Emmy and Three-time NAACP Image Award-winning, television Executive Producer Rushion McDonald interviewed Lavar Thomas. Motivational speaker, author, Peace Corps alumnus, leadership coach, and founder of Empower for Greatness. Lavar’s mission is to help people transform “from the inside out” so they can live with greater intention and purpose. The conversation explores Lavar’s upbringing in Brownsville, Brooklyn; his life-changing Peace Corps service in Rwanda; his understanding of faith, purpose, failure, and leadership; and how he built international development programs such as Leaders of the Free World, which exposes young Black men to global travel and leadership experiences. He discusses how stepping outside his comfort zone—from traveling abroad for the first time to navigating Rwanda after only knowing it through “Hotel Rwanda”—opened his worldview, deepened his empathy, and developed his leadership style. Lavar explains how a major project failure in the Peace Corps forced him to redefine success beyond titles, money, or recognition. This experience ultimately inspired his book, The Other Side of Letting Go. He also shares how he balances a federal government job with building his speaking and training company. The interview concludes with a powerful discussion on purpose, reinvention, leadership, and the role travel plays in expanding one’s mindset—especially for communities that are historically underrepresented in global spaces. PURPOSE OF THE INTERVIEW 1. To highlight Lavar’s transformative journey from Brooklyn to global leadership. Rushion showcases how Lavar’s experiences shaped his philosophy and mission. 2. To educate listeners about purpose‑driven living and leadership Lavar explains why purpose—not money—is the “real currency,” and how aligning with purpose drives impact. 3. To inspire people to step beyond their comfort zones The interview emphasizes how discomfort and uncertainty can spark growth. 4. To reveal the value of international exposure for Black men Through Leaders of the Free World, Lavar advocates for global experiences that shift identity and opportunity. 5. To discuss resilience, reinvention, and personal development From project failures to the death of his father, Lavar shows how adversity can reshape purpose and leadership. KEY TAKEAWAYS 1. Faith requires action Lavar describes faith as taking steps without knowing the outcome—“believing in the future before it becomes reality.” 2. Growth happens outside the comfort zone Comfort zones feel safe, but they also create limits; stepping beyond them leads to self‑awareness and transformation. 3. The Peace Corps experience was life‑changing Rwanda taught him service, humility, language, cultural understanding, and the power of community trust. 4. Failure can be an important redirection When his library project collapsed, Lavar learned to detach from ego and redefine success through impact, not image. 5. Purpose is the real currency Operating in purpose helps you add value, understand your worth, and ultimately generate income more meaningfully. 6. Leadership includes being willing to pivot He shifted from a failed library project to impactful malnutrition programs, partnering with USAID to train families. 7. Personal setbacks can sharpen identity and mission His father’s death led him to pause graduate school, attend therapy, and rebuild himself—learning leadership through vulnerability. 8. Global exposure changes lives Leaders of the Free World gives young Black men access to international travel, allowing them to reimagine their potential. NOTABLE QUOTES On faith “Faith is taking steps without even knowing the outcome… believing in the future I see in my mind before I see it in reality.” On stepping outside comfort zones “Every time I step beyond that line, I grew… I realized new possibilities for myself.” On failure “Failure is life redirecting you.” (Recalling Oprah’s teaching). On purpose “Purpose is the real currency.” On redefining success “I had to learn how to redefine success for myself—not in the glamor of a project, but the impact I was having.” On reinvention after loss “I had to step away and rebuild LaVar… focusing on my family taught me so much about leadership.” On travel and identity “Something shifts in them when they return. They see their lives differently and their community differently.” #STRAW #BEST #SHMS See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    28 min
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Hi, this is Rushion McDonald. Welcome to the podcast world of Money Making Conversations Master Class. I interview profits and nonprofits to learn their "Secrets to Success."  I'm a former IBM Executive with a degree in Mathematics. I started my entrepreneurial career as a stand-up comic, then became a sitcom writer, award-winning baker, social media influencer, award-winning television Executive Producer, and brand architect for super-successful celebrities and products. Money Making Conversations Master Class interviews a diverse group of celebrities, entrepreneurs, and influencers in the financial and business community with their advice and tips so you can be successful, too. It's time to stop reading other people's success stories and start building your own. People always talk about their purpose or gifts. If you have a gift, Lead with your Gift, and don't let your friends, family, or co-workers stop you from planning or living your dream. Keep Winning! https://www.moneymakingconversations.com https://www.youtube.com/MoneyMakingConversations https://www.facebook.com/MoneyMakingConversations/ https://twitter.com/moneymakingconv https://www.instagram.com/moneymakingconversations/

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