Moral Revolution Podcast

Laura Segafredo & Tony Annett
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Moral Revolution is a thought-provoking podcast that explores the intersection of ethics, economics, history, and philosophy in today’s complex world. moralrevolution.substack.com

Episodes

  1. DEC 8

    When Wants Masquerade as Needs: A Moral Case for Post‑Growth Finance

    Summary In this episode, Laura Segafredo and Tony Annett engage with Matt Orsagh to discuss the future of economics beyond neoclassical frameworks, focusing on the concepts of post-growth and ecological economics. They explore the role of finance in a sustainable economy, the importance of understanding planetary boundaries, and the intersection of theology and economics. The conversation critiques technocracy and emphasizes the need for cultural change and community building to foster solidarity and social justice in the face of environmental challenges. Keywords post-growth, ecological economics, sustainability, finance, planetary boundaries, degrowth, social justice, community building, prosperity, cultural change Takeaways The conversation explores the future of economics beyond neoclassical frameworks. Finance plays a crucial role in transitioning to a post-growth world. Ecological economics offers a more sustainable approach to understanding economic systems. Planetary boundaries highlight the limits of growth and resource use. The intersection of theology and economics raises important ethical questions. Critiques of technocracy emphasize the need for a more sustainable mindset. Technology alone cannot solve the issues of overconsumption and waste. The politics of degrowth must consider social justice and equity. Cultural change is essential for rethinking prosperity and well-being. Community building is vital for fostering solidarity and local resilience. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Post-Growth Economics 02:56 The Role of Finance in a Post-Growth World 06:02 Understanding Ecological Economics 08:54 Planetary Boundaries and Sustainability 12:01 The Technocratic Paradigm and Its Critique 14:51 Degrowth: A Controversial Concept 17:58 Cultural Change and Economic Systems 20:58 Justice in Growth and Degrowth 23:47 The Future of Prosperity and Well-Being 32:18 The Shift in Economic Conversations 34:09 Human Flourishing and Societal Choices 37:55 Historical Context of Economic Growth 40:48 Finance and the Concept of Degrowth 49:11 Political Transformation for a New Economy 56:09 Community Building and Local Empowerment This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit moralrevolution.substack.com

    54 min

  2. NOV 20

    Why Fighting Climate Change is Our Existential Moral Imperative

    In the latest episode of the Moral Revolution podcast, we dive deep into a crisis that challenges the very foundation of human survival: climate change. Beyond policy debates and technological aspirations, this is fundamentally a moral revolution demanding urgent and just action. We begin by exploring the long and complex history of international climate negotiations and the critical issues at stake today. From the 1992 Rio Summit, which laid the groundwork for global cooperation through the creation of the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC), the world has grappled with how to act collectively to limit global warming. Landmark moments include the Kyoto Protocol’s binding targets for developed countries, the challenging but pivotal Copenhagen talks, and the breakthrough Paris Agreement in 2015, when nearly every nation committed to ambitious emissions reductions. Despite progress, the path has been uneven. Today, global emissions patterns show developed countries slowly lowering emissions even as developing economies continue to rise. Technological advances in renewables and batteries offer hope, but most existing national commitments fall short of what science demands. At COP30 currently underway in Belém, negotiations intensify around some of the most contentious issues: * Fossil Fuel Phaseout: After first being mentioned explicitly in the 2021 Glasgow COP, the calls to phase down and eventually phase out fossil fuels face geopolitical resistance, especially from fossil fuel producers and some developing countries emphasizing development rights. * Trade and Carbon Pricing: The debate over border carbon adjustments reflects tensions between protecting climate progress and ensuring fair trade for developing economies vulnerable to carbon tariffs. * Climate Finance: The ongoing struggle to secure sufficient, transparent, and equitable funding for poorer countries to adapt and recover from climate impacts remains unresolved, threatening trust and cooperation. These negotiations are about more than policy: they are about justice, shared responsibility, and the urgent need for global solidarity. This episode unpacks how far we have come, the challenges ahead, and why this moment demands our full attention. Join us as we delve into the moral and practical dimensions of the climate crisis unfolding on the world stage. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit moralrevolution.substack.com

    52 min

  3. OCT 22

    Building the People’s Home: A Northern European Moral Revolution

    This episode explores the evolution and characteristics of Scandinavian social democracy, contrasting it with Christian democracy (covered in episode 6). It delves into the historical context, key policies during the Great Depression, and the defining features of the Scandinavian model, including labor-capital cooperation and the welfare state. The discussion also addresses the challenges faced by these systems, particularly regarding immigration and demographic changes, while highlighting the successes and lessons learned from the Scandinavian experience. Key takeaways: Scandinavian social democracy emerged from specific political circumstances in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. The model emphasizes cooperation between labor and capital, leading to a unique social contract. Keynesian policies during the Great Depression solidified the appeal of social democracy in Scandinavia. The Scandinavian welfare state is characterized by universal benefits and high levels of taxation. Labor relations in Scandinavia were historically conflictual but evolved into cooperative agreements. The 1970s marked the high point of the Scandinavian social model with extensive social benefits. Cooperatives play a significant role in the Scandinavian economy, promoting economic democracy. Demographic challenges pose a threat to the sustainability of the welfare state in Scandinavia. The Scandinavian model has been successful in achieving high levels of happiness and life satisfaction. Future discussions should address the implications of immigration on the welfare state. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit moralrevolution.substack.com

    46 min

  4. SEP 10

    Beyond the Rubble: Christian Democratic Ideals and Europe’s Moral Renewal After WW2

    Welcome back to Moral Revolution! We’re excited to kick off the sixth episode of our podcast after a restorative summer break. This conversation explores a pivotal, yet often overlooked, chapter in European history: the crucial role Christian democracy played in rebuilding Europe’s social, political, and moral landscape after World War II. Despite its sweeping influence on European society, economy, and institutions, Christian democracy rarely receives the attention it deserves - certainly this side of the Atlantic. Far from a historical footnote, this movement shaped constitutions, social policy, economic reforms, and the very fabric of democracy itself. You will hear Tony leads a fascinating journey through postwar history, highlighting the real meaning of Christian democracy and why its forgotten lessons matter today. What Is Christian Democracy? Emerging from the moral void left by fascism and war, Christian democracy drew on Catholic social teaching and a profound belief in the dignity of every person. Unlike fascism, Christian democracy offered an inclusive, communitarian vision rooted in Aristotelian and Thomist traditions. It embraced liberal democracy, but insisted on reforming capitalism with firm commitments to justice, solidarity, and the common good. This “middle way” rejected both unfettered individualism and collectivist authoritarianism, instead envisioning a society where private property and markets existed within moral boundaries, always serving justice and the needs of the most vulnerable. The Moral and Intellectual Foundations A key intellectual force behind this movement was Jacques Maritain, the French Catholic philosopher who pioneered “personalism,” claiming that true democracy is born from the Christian affirmation of human dignity. For Maritain, this meant a society upholding both individual rights and deep social responsibility - a vision at odds with both fascism and the totalitarian left. Importantly, Maritain and postwar Christian democrats did not retreat from modernity. Instead, they sought to shape secular freedoms around a richer vision of solidarity, rights, and the flourishing of every person. His influence extended to the drafting of universal human rights documents and inspired a new engagement among Catholics and Christians with democracy, labor, and social justice. From Theory to Constitution: The Camaldoli Code Italy’s story offers a powerful example. In 1943, as fascism collapsed, a clandestine gathering of Catholic intellectuals, future leaders, and economists drafted the Camaldoli Code: seventy-six principles outlining the moral bedrock of reconstruction. This profound document, deeply inspired by Maritain and Catholic social teaching, shaped the Italian constitution and those of other postwar democracies. Essential values articulated included: * The dignity and equality of all persons * Solidarity and the duty to work for the common good * The universal destination of material goods * The primacy of labor as the source of wealth * The imperative for justice in contracts and state intervention Despite its obscurity outside Italy, the Camaldoli Code remains a testament to how vision and imagination can give birth to new social orders amidst devastation. Christian Democracy and the Postwar Welfare State Christian democracy was central to creating Europe’s welfare states - often even more expansive than their Anglo-American or Scandinavian counterparts during the early years. Social spending soared, built around social insurance, family benefits, and solidarity. A notable feature was the model’s focus on protecting the family breadwinner - though, as the episode discusses, its patriarchal biases delayed gender equality in the labor market and beyond. Another vital principle, subsidiarity, aimed to empower local communities and families wherever possible, with higher authorities stepping in only when local institutions could not meet people’s needs. This approach shaped everything from unemployment insurance to pension systems, worker participation, and the unique structure of the European welfare model. Building Europe—and Its Challenges The Christian democratic commitment to solidarity and subsidiarity also drove the creation of supranational institutions, most notably the European Union. Leaders like Adenauer, Schuman, and De Gasperi (the “founders of Europe”) were steeped in this tradition. They envisioned a Europe bound not by narrow nationalism, but by a shared commitment to dignity, peace, and transnational cooperation. Yet the episode acknowledges how, in recent decades, this legacy has faded. Neoliberal market thinking, deregulation, and a neglect of the movement’s original ideals have left many disillusioned with European institutions. Returning to the movement’s foundational values of pluralism, the common good, and authentic human dignity could offer much-needed moral clarity today. Lasting Lessons (and a Cinematic Nod) Christian democracy is not “Christian nationalism.” It is an inclusive, pluralistic vision that affirmed the rights and dignity of everyone, regardless of faith or background. As Italy’s Don Camillo films charmingly show, the postwar decades were built through cooperation (and lively tension) between Christian and leftist ideals, emphasizing what people held in common even as they differed. The episode ends with a reminder: even amidst chaos, a principled vision of human flourishing can guide whole societies toward a better future. What are your thoughts on the legacies of Christian democracy? Is there a lesson for our own fractured political moment? Leave a comment, share the episode, and let us know what topics you’d like to see next on Moral Revolution. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit moralrevolution.substack.com

    1h 1m

  5. JUL 31

    Reimagining Creation: Dr. Elizabeth Johnson on Faith, Science, and the Ethics of Kinship

    In the latest episode of the Moral Revolution podcast, I had the honor of speaking with Dr. Elizabeth Johnson, an eco-feminist theologian and one of my “sheroes.” Our conversation ranged across science, scripture, finance, and feminism, offering a challenging and hopeful map for how faith can reorient our lives toward true ecological responsibility. The Limits of Human-Centered Thinking Dr. Johnson is clear: putting humans at the center of creation (what theologians call “anthropocentrism”) is not just an ecological error, but a theological one. When we imagine God as caring only about one species, “we think of ourselves as little gods,” Johnson warns, “and we then think we have the right to use other species to our own advantage without considering their own vital reality in themselves as beloved of God.” She reminds us that every Christian creed begins by naming God as the Creator of heaven and earth. Losing sight of this origin, she says, “is a distortion right away in our ethics.” Community of Creation, Not a Pyramid Rather than a pyramid with humans at the top, Johnson invites us to see life as a “community of creation”: a web of kinship across all living things. Quoting scripture’s command to “love your neighbor as yourself,” she asks us to expand our conception of neighbor: “Does it apply only to people?…What about crossing the species line and seeing other species as kin?” In this vision, humans become caretakers within creation, reliant on the very systems we so often seek to dominate: “The tree is perfectly happy in its existence, whether humans are on this planet or not…But think about human life without trees. They are absolutely essential to our existence.” Deep Incarnation: Christ, Cosmos, and Darwin Johnson’s theology bridges faith and science with rare depth. She describes how evolutionary science, especially Darwin, shaped her thinking: “Darwin’s wisdom was to see connections where other people had not…to see that in the end, we are all part of the tree of life…different branches, but from the same source.” She ties this scientific story to Christian concepts like “deep incarnation”—the idea that the Word became flesh, and that flesh connects us not just to God, but to all of nature and even the stardust of the cosmos itself. Beyond Dominion and the Limits of Stewardship Dr. Johnson takes on familiar but misunderstood scriptural ideas. She explains that the biblical “dominion” granted to humans is meant as delegated care, not domination: “Whoever had dominion was a representative, to make sure the king’s will was being carried out…So rather than giving human beings the right to exploit…the word dominion really means take care of this. You’re here in my name; what would God want for these creatures?” She appreciates “stewardship” as a step forward, but warns it falls short: “Stewardship ignores the fact that what we humans are stewarding is also giving back to us. So the mutuality of our relationship in the community is overlooked.” Instead, she calls for reciprocity and real interdependence, rather than a continuing hierarchy that keeps humans at the center. Eco-Conversion: No Divide Between Ecology and Justice Johnson is a fierce advocate for what Pope Francis calls “integral ecology”: the inseparable tie between environmental crisis and social injustice (we talk about this in Episode 3). “Who suffers most from ecological degradation? It’s the poor,” she notes, sharing stories of communities poisoned by pollution or devastated by climate change. Her call: “To hear the cry of the earth and the cry of the poor together.” The Feminist Lens: Expanding Our Imagination of God Dr. Johnson’s feminist perspective runs deep: she’s spent decades challenging the masculinized, exclusionary images of God: “The Western imagination of God is still, in large part, Michelangelo’s art in the Sistine Chapel: male, old, white, wealthy. But the God of the scriptures…is the God who hears the cries of the suffering, who liberates, who is beyond any image or word we can use.” The patriarchal tradition of the Church, she says, “makes me feel it’s even more urgent to offer alternative visions.” Hope That Resists Despair In a time of rising eco-anxiety and political backlash, Dr. Johnson does not serve up false optimism. Instead, she grounds hope in action and integrity: “The fundamental reason to keep going is your own integrity, your own truth…Not as an individual, but as part of a community of caring people that see a value in loving the earth rather than destroying it.” What matters, she says, is to “push for that, and resist in every possible way the political rolling back that’s going on… The important thing is not that we succeed, but that we die trying.” Takeaways for the Moral Revolution * Anthropocentrism is not only ecologically dangerous, but distorts Christian faith itself. * Humans belong in a community of creation, not perched at the top. * Ecological stewardship must be mutual, humble, and kinship-based, not just managerial. * Integral ecology means “the cry of the earth” is bound to “the cry of the poor.” * Feminist theology is essential to freeing our imagination of God and our sense of justice. * Hope endures in collective action, not outcomes. Integrity matters, and the next generation is counting on us. If you’re looking for wisdom that connects faith, science, and the ethics of planetary care, you’ll find much to ponder in this conversation. Listen to the full episode for even more insights from Dr. Johnson, and join us in the ongoing work of moral—and ecological—revolution. What resonated with you most? Join the conversation in the comments, or share your thoughts directly—let’s keep building this community of care! This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit moralrevolution.substack.com

    40 min

  6. JUL 25

    The Care Revolution: Silvia Federici on Feminism, Capitalism, and Re-enchanting the World

    In the latest episode of Moral Revolution, I had the profound honor of speaking with Silvia Federici: scholar, activist, and a relentless voice for justice. Our conversation, sparked by my own discovery of her work during the pandemic via the New York Times, delves deep into themes that are as urgent as ever. Key Takeaways: * The Origins and Power of “Wages for Housework”Federici recounts the birth of the movement in the 1970s, challenging both leftist orthodoxy and mainstream feminism by asserting that unpaid care and domestic work are not only essential but foundational to capitalist economies. This shift called for recognition and compensation for the mostly invisible labor sustaining society. * Making the Invisible VisibleThe campaign’s genius was turning economics on its head: “Where they call it love, we call it unpaid labor.” This reframing exposed how capitalism relies on unpaid, gendered labor: labor that, if compensated, would demand a radical restructuring of work, family, and economic reward. * Coalition-Building and Intersectionality Before It Had a NameFederici shared how Wages for Housework worked internationally and across class, racial, and even gender lines, adapting its strategies and maintaining solidarity among women in Italy, England, the US, and beyond. Their annual conferences and ongoing support were deliberate attempts to resist divide-and-conquer tactics and keep the movement broad and powerful. * Connecting Feminism and Environmental JusticeEchoing ecofeminist traditions, Federici draws a striking parallel between the exploitation of women’s labor and the plundering of nature. Both are seen by capitalism as resources to be extracted for private profit, and both must be at the center of any movement for real change: a vision of interdependence rather than extraction. * Technology, AI, and the Revaluation of CareIn light of rapid advances in AI, which threaten to automate intellectual labor, Federici’s critique is more relevant than ever. She dismisses the prospect of robots replacing genuine human care, arguing instead for a coming together around the life-sustaining, irreplaceably human work that care entails. * Vision for the Future: Commons, Solidarity, and RegenerationFederici’s call for re-enchanting the world means reclaiming communal forms of production, solidarity economies, food sovereignty, and ancestral ecological knowledge: not only resisting technocratic “solutions” but building truly regenerative and just systems. In a world where progress isn’t guaranteed and setbacks feel constant, Federici reminds us that the feminist movement’s true power lies in its grounding in reproduction, care, and solidarity—the basic elements that sustain life and hope. To go deeper, listen to the full episode. Full video episode here. Sources for further reading: Emily Callaci: Wages For Housework, The Feminist Fight Against Unpaid Labor https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/emily-callaci/wages-for-housework/9781541603516/?lens=seal-press Silvia Federici: Re-Enchanting the world, Feminism and the Politics of the Commons https://library.stationofcommons.org/Silvia%20Federici/Re-Enchanting%20the%20World_%20Feminism%20and%20the%20Politics%20of%20the%20Commons%20(9)/Re-Enchanting%20the%20World_%20Feminism%20and%20the%20-%20Silvia%20Federici.pdf Silvia Federici: Caliban and the witch https://files.libcom.org/files/Caliban%20and%20the%20Witch.pdf Mariarosa Dalla Costa: The Power of Women and the Subversion of the Community https://files.libcom.org/files/Dalla%20Costa%20and%20James%20-%20Women%20and%20the%20Subversion%20of%20the%20Community.pdf Mariarosa Dalla Costa: Our Mother Ocean: Enclosure, Commons, and the Global Fishermen’s Movement https://www.commonnotions.org/our-mother-ocean?srsltid=AfmBOopJLRQJcnIybexTVs259xdjB4LGXaE1QDcD7uqqTlUw6Zk6dBqf This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit moralrevolution.substack.com

    39 min

  7. JUL 14

    Laudato Si’ and the Moral Revolution of Integral Ecology

    Laudato Si’ 10 years later: Faith, Ecology, and the Call for a Moral Revolution On May 24, 2015, Pope Francis released Laudato Si’, the first encyclical in the history of the Catholic Church dedicated entirely to ecology. An encyclical is the highest-level teaching document in Catholicism. While previous popes and bishops had spoken about the environment, never before had the Church issued such a comprehensive statement on our moral responsibility to care for creation. This document didn’t just speak to Catholics; it resonated globally, providing a powerful moral framework that influenced the climate negotiations leading up to the Paris Agreement later that year. Today, we dive deeper into Laudato Si’, exploring its origins, its message, and its enduring impact on both the Church and the world. 1. Connecting Laudato Si’ to Catholic Tradition: Historical Foundations Laudato Si’ was revolutionary, but it didn’t emerge from a vacuum. Its teachings are deeply rooted in the Church’s long-standing concern for creation. * John Paul II was the first pope to call the ecological crisis a “moral issue,” linking care for creation with respect for life and social justice. In his 1990 World Day of Peace message, he reflected that praying for peace is not just about the absence of war between humans, but also about peace between humans and creation. He wrote: “Many ethical values, fundamental to the development of a peaceful society, are particularly relevant to the ecological question... The profound sense that the earth is 'suffering' is also shared by those who do not profess our faith in God... It results from the behaviour of people who show a callous disregard for the hidden, yet perceivable requirements of the order and harmony which govern nature itself.” * In his 1991 encyclical Centesimus Annus, John Paul II described nature as a gift from God, emphasizing humanity’s duty to cooperate with God in fostering the flourishing of the environment. * Benedict XVI built on this, especially by linking environmental degradation to economic systems. In the 2009 encyclical Caritas in Veritate, he warned against the “folly of the consumerist mindset” and called for a “change of mentality.” He led by example, making the Vatican carbon neutral and highlighting the interconnectedness of ecological and social issues. “The economy needs ethics in order to function correctly—not any ethics whatsoever, but an ethics which is people-centred... The way humanity treats the environment influences the way it treats itself, and vice versa... What is needed is an effective shift in mentality which can lead to the adoption of new life-styles...” Laudato Si’ explicitly references these previous teachings and the broader framework of Catholic Social Teaching, especially the principles of the common good, solidarity, and the preferential option for the poor. It draws on the Church’s call for justice, human dignity, and care for the vulnerable, integrating these with an evolving understanding of “ecojustice.” 2. The Structure and Message of Laudato Si’ The encyclical is organized into six chapters, each addressing a key dimension of the ecological crisis and the Church’s response: Chapter Overview * What is Happening to Our Common Home: Examines pollution, waste, climate as a common good, water scarcity, biodiversity loss, declining quality of life, and global inequality. It affirms the “very solid scientific consensus” on climate change and the evidence that human activity is the primary driver. “The climate is a common good, belonging to all and meant for all.” * The Gospel of Creation: Interprets biblical teachings, emphasizing responsible stewardship and rejecting domination over nature. The Genesis stories are read as calls to cultivate and protect, not exploit, the earth. “The common destination of goods”: The earth is a shared inheritance, meant to benefit everyone. For believers, this is a question of fidelity to the Creator. * The Human Roots of the Ecological Crisis: Explores social trends and ideologies—such as consumerism, technocracy, and moral relativism—that have led to environmental destruction. “Modernity has been marked by an excessive anthropocentrism... There needs to be a distinctive way of looking at things, a way of thinking, policies, an educational programme, a lifestyle and a spirituality...” * Integral Ecology: Presents the core solution: linking environmental, social, cultural, and economic issues. Humans are not separate from, but deeply interconnected with, the broader living world. “We are faced not with two separate crises, one environmental and the other social, but rather with one complex crisis which is both social and environmental... Strategies for a solution demand an integrated approach to combating poverty, restoring dignity to the excluded, and at the same time protecting nature.” * Lines of Approach and Action: Applies integral ecology to politics, calling for international agreements, new policies, inclusive decision-making, and an economy ordered to the good of all. * Ecological Education and Spirituality: Concludes with a call for a spiritual and cultural revolution—almost a counter-revolution to consumerism. It recommends a lifestyle focused on enduring values, environmental education, civic love, and an “ecological conversion.” Central Messages * Interconnectedness: Humanity’s fate is bound to the health of the planet; environmental and social crises are inseparable. * Moral and Spiritual Crisis: The ecological crisis reflects a deeper spiritual and moral malaise. * Universal Call: The encyclical is addressed to “every person living on this planet,” not just Catholics. * Integral Ecology: Solutions must address environmental, social, economic, and cultural dimensions together. * Cry of the Earth, Cry of the Poor: Environmental degradation and social injustice are linked; the poor suffer most from ecological harm. 3. Laudato Si’ in the Context of Religion and Ecology Influences and Shifts * Lynn White: His criticism of Christianity’s role in environmental degradation prompted the Church to clarify its teachings on stewardship. * St. Francis of Assisi: His “Canticle of the Creatures” inspired the encyclical’s title and vision of kinship with all creation. * Leonardo Boff: A Brazilian liberation theologian, whose work “Cry of the Earth, Cry of the Poor” is explicitly referenced, linking ecological and social justice. * Thomas Berry: Advocated for a new ecological consciousness and a “New Story” that integrates science and spiritual wisdom, seeing humans as part of a “communion of subjects, not a collection of objects.” Laudato Si’ marks a shift from a theology of domination to one of relationship and responsibility, integrating scientific understanding with spiritual insight. It is a landmark in the evolving field of religion and ecology, positioning the Catholic Church as a global leader in ecological ethics and dialogue with science. 4. The Legacy and Impact of Laudato Si’ (2015–2025) Influence on Global Climate Action * Played a significant role in shaping the 2015 Paris Climate Agreement, providing a moral framing that influenced international negotiations and inspired leaders worldwide. * Frequently cited by scientists, diplomats, and activists, and has inspired similar initiatives in other faith traditions. * Sparked the creation of the Laudato Si’ Action Platform and numerous Catholic and interfaith environmental movements. * Encouraged Catholic institutions to divest from fossil fuels and adopt renewable energy. * Positioned Pope Francis as a leading global voice on climate and environmental issues. The Concept of “Ecological Sin” * Laudato Si’ established the act of “ecological sin” as an action or omission against God, neighbor, community, and the environment—including future generations. This concept highlights the relational aspect of sin, extending it to our relationship with the natural world. Subsequent Developments * Pope Francis continued to address environmental issues in Laudate Deum (2023), expressing concern about insufficient progress and warning that “the world in which we live is collapsing and may be nearing the breaking point.” * Pope Leo XIV, the current pope, has referenced Laudato Si’ in his teachings, emphasizing the Church’s mission to “care for creation” and calling for a “conversion” of hearts and lifestyles. “We must pray for the conversion of many people, inside and outside of the church, who still do not recognize the urgency of caring for our common home.” 5. Reflections and Looking Forward Ten years on, the message of Laudato Si’ remains urgent as environmental crises intensify. The Church continues to advocate for ecological conversion, justice for the poor, and global solidarity. The encyclical’s legacy lies in its call for a “moral revolution” that unites ecological, social, and spiritual renewal. If you’ve made it this far, thank you for joining us in exploring the roots, message, and ongoing impact of Laudato Si’. The work of caring for our common home continues, and its call is more urgent than ever. Give the podcast a listen for an even better version of this summary! This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit moralrevolution.substack.com

    35 min

  8. JUN 7

    Moral Revolution Episode 2: A primer on Catholic Social Teaching

    This week on Moral Revolution, we explore the essentials of Catholic social teaching—a tradition that has profoundly shaped moral thinking about society, economics, and justice. Here’s a summary of the key points discussed in the episode: 1. Ancient Roots: The Moral Revolution of Judaism * Catholic social teaching traces its origins to Judaism’s call to protect the poor, the excluded, and the foreigner. * The “cycles of seven” in Jewish law—Sabbath, Sabbatical year, and Jubilee—ensured rest for all, debt forgiveness, release from servitude, and the return of land to its original owners, promoting social justice and economic balance. * The prophets consistently denounced the mistreatment of the poor, laying a foundation for later Christian teachings. 2. Jesus and the Inversion of Social Order * Jesus’s message centered on the “Kingdom of God,” a vision for transforming the world and inverting the existing social order. * Nineteen of his thirty-one parables focus on issues such as indebtedness, wealth, and fair pay for workers. * Key teachings include: “Blessed are the poor,” “Woe to the rich,” “The last shall be first,” and “You cannot serve both God and Mammon.” * Divine judgment, in Jesus’s teaching, hinges on how we treat the poor and excluded. Everyone is considered a neighbor, with universal moral obligations. 3. The Church Fathers and the Universal Destination of Goods * Early Christian leaders denounced the hoarding of wealth and insisted that the goods of the earth belong to all people, not just the privileged few. 4. The Modern Era: Encyclicals and Social Justice * The 1891 encyclical Rerum Novarum addressed the injustices of the industrial era, calling for just wages, the rights of unions, and state protection for workers and the poor. * This initiated a tradition of social encyclicals, culminating in recent documents like Fratelli Tutti (2020), which address global economic justice and sustainable development. * The focus has expanded from labor issues to broader concerns about justice and the environment. (We’ll cover Laudato Si’ in a future episode.) 5. Core Principles of Catholic Social Teaching * The Common Good: The well-being of everyone, transcending individual interests. No one can be excluded. * Integral Human Development: The flourishing of the whole person and all people, inspired by Aristotelian thought. * Solidarity: The belief that everyone is responsible for everyone else. * Subsidiarity: Decisions should be made at the most local level possible, with higher authorities supporting—not replacing—families and communities. * Reciprocity and Gratuitousness: Economic life should be guided by fraternity and generosity, not mere self-interest. * Universal Destination of Goods: Earth’s resources must serve the needs of all, not just the wealthy or successful. * Preferential Option for the Poor: Special concern for the most vulnerable is central. * Justice: Encompasses commutative (fair exchange), distributive (fair allocation), and contributive (participation in society) justice. * Rights and Duties: Rights are rooted in human dignity and are matched by duties to others and the community1. 6. A Personalist Framework Rooted in Dignity * Drawing on Aristotle and Aquinas, Catholic teaching holds that every person has a purpose (telos) and the right to the means necessary for full human flourishing. * Society has a duty to ensure access to essentials like food, shelter, medical care, rest, and social services—especially for those facing illness, disability, old age, or unemployment. * As Pope John XXIII wrote, these rights are “universal and inviolable, and therefore altogether inalienable”. 7. Contemporary Implications * In practice, Catholic social teaching tends to support social democracy or Christian Democracy, advocating for systems that protect human dignity, promote justice, and ensure the well-being of all—especially the poor and vulnerable. Listen to the full episode for a deeper dive into these themes and their relevance for today’s world! Sources mentioned in the episode: Anthony M. Annett- Cathonomics: How Catholic Tradition Can Create a More Just Economy. Georgetown University Press, Apr 1, 2024 - https://press.georgetown.edu/Book/Cathonomics COMPENDIUM OF THE SOCIAL DOCTRINE OF THE CHURCH https://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/pontifical_councils/justpeace/documents/rc_pc_justpeace_doc_20060526_compendio-dott-soc_en.html RERUM NOVARUM ENCYCLICAL OF POPE LEO XIII ON CAPITAL AND LABOR https://www.vatican.va/content/leo-xiii/en/encyclicals/documents/hf_l-xiii_enc_15051891_rerum-novarum.html ENCYCLICAL LETTER FRATELLI TUTTI OF THE HOLY FATHER FRANCIS ON FRATERNITY AND SOCIAL FRIENDSHIP https://www.vatican.va/content/francesco/en/encyclicals/documents/papa-francesco_20201003_enciclica-fratelli-tutti.html PACEM IN TERRIS ENCYCLICAL OF POPE JOHN XXIII ON ESTABLISHING UNIVERSAL PEACE IN TRUTH, JUSTICE, CHARITY, AND LIBERTY https://www.vatican.va/content/john-xxiii/en/encyclicals/documents/hf_j-xxiii_enc_11041963_pacem.html This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit moralrevolution.substack.com

    34 min
  9. Moral Revolution - Episode 1

    MAY 24

    Moral Revolution - Episode 1

    Welcome to the inaugural episode of the Moral Revolution podcast, where hosts Laura Segafredo and Anthony Annett set out to explore the intersection of ethics, economics, politics, faith and culture in a time of global uncertainty and transformation. Introducing the Hosts Anthony Annett brings a wealth of experience as an economist with a PhD from Columbia and a two-decade career at the International Monetary Fund. He is also the author of Cathonomics, a book that examines the moral foundations of economics through the lens of Catholic social teaching. Laura Segafredo is a climate expert whose work bridges science and economics, driving forward-thinking solutions for a more just and sustainable world. She is about to embark on a master’s degree in Theology and Ecology at Princeton Theological Seminary and with this podcast is fulfilling a long time dream to be on radio! Why a “Moral Revolution”? The podcast’s central premise is that our world faces not just technical or economic challenges, but a profound moral crisis. From climate change and inequality to the erosion of trust in institutions, we argue that addressing these issues requires a re-examination of our collective values and priorities. We believe that a “moral revolution” is needed—one that places human dignity, solidarity, and stewardship at the heart of public discourse and decision-making. Christianity and the “Dual Moral Revolution” One of the episode’s most thought-provoking segments draws on historian Tom Holland’s insight that Christianity catalyzed a “dual moral revolution” that upended the ancient world: 1. The Inversion of Social HierarchiesChristianity radically challenged traditional hierarchies of wealth, power, and status. The teachings of Jesus—“the last will be first,” “blessed are the poor,” “woe to the rich,” and “the meek shall inherit the earth”—flipped the script on who society should value and honor. This was a seismic shift: the marginalized and powerless were now placed at the center of the moral universe. 2. Universalizing the Concept of NeighborThe second part of this revolution extended the idea of “neighbor” to every person on earth. Inspired by the parable of the Good Samaritan, Christianity became, as the Orthodox theologian put it, the religion of “infinite relationality.” Our moral responsibility is not limited by tribe, nation, or proximity—we are called to respond to anyone in need, anywhere. We contrast this with the rise of Trumpism, which, in our view, represents a Nietzschean inversion of Christianity’s moral revolution. Trumpism centers on power, profit, pleasure, and prestige. The strong crush the weak, enemies are to be destroyed, revenge is valorized, and the poor are disregarded in favor of conspicuous wealth. The attacks on migrants and the gutting of foreign aid—actions that can result in the suffering or death of the world’s most vulnerable—stand in stark opposition to the ethic of the Good Samaritan. This, we argue, is not just a political shift, but a profound moral reversal. The Need for Moral Language A recurring theme is the inadequacy of today’s public discourse. The phrase “this is not normal,” often repeated by critics of recent political developments, is, as the hosts put it, “bland and vacuous”—utterly failing to capture the moral gravity of the moment. Historian Tony Judt is invoked as a reminder that the postwar era of social democracy was suffused with moral language. People debated government actions in terms of right and wrong, justice and injustice. We argue that we must recover this moral vocabulary if we are to meet the challenges of our time. Without it, we risk losing sight of what is truly at stake. Key Themes from Episode 1 * The Interplay of Ethics and Economics: Mainstream economics often sidelines moral considerations, treating them as externalities or afterthoughts. This has contributed to many of today’s crises, from environmental degradation to widening inequality. Traditions like Catholic social teaching insist that economic systems must serve the common good, not just individual profit. * Climate Change as a Moral Issue: Climate change is not just an environmental or technical problem, but a profound ethical challenge. Decisions about resource use, energy, and development have far-reaching consequences for the vulnerable and for future generations. The episode highlights the need for policies and investments that reflect a commitment to justice, sustainability, and intergenerational responsibility. * Personal Journeys and Motivations: Both hosts share personal stories about what drew them to this work. For Anthony, it was a growing awareness of the limitations of conventional economic thinking and a desire to connect his professional life with his moral convictions. For Laura, experiences in academia and sustainable finance reinforced the importance of integrating ethical reflection into practical decision-making. What Listeners Can Expect Future episodes will feature conversations with thought leaders, practitioners, and activists working at the frontiers of ethics, economics, and social change. The goal is to foster dialogue that is rigorous, inclusive, and hopeful—offering not just critique, but concrete pathways toward a more humane and sustainable world. Closing Thoughts We hope that the first episode of Moral Revolution sets the stage for a podcast that is both intellectually engaging and deeply personal. By weaving together expertise in economics, climate science, and moral philosophy, we invite listeners to join a much-needed conversation about what kind of society we want to build—and what it will take to get there. Stay tuned for more episodes, and join the movement for a moral revolution. Links to articles and books referenced in the episode: David Brooks column: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/01/opinion/trump-faith-humanism.html Vox article on converts vs cradle Catholics: https://www.vox.com/politics/405869/jd-vance-conversion-religion-politics-divide Vox article on empathy as a sin: https://www.vox.com/culture/413530/what-does-empathy-is-a-sin-mean-christian-extremism Aristotle’s Eudaimonia: https://ethics.org.au/ethics-explainer-eudaimonia/ https://www.amazon.com/Dominion-Christian-Revolution-Remade-World/dp/0465093507 Tom Holland: “Dominion: How the Christian Revolution Remade the World” This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit moralrevolution.substack.com

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