More Than A Test

Jennie Tookoian

Our goal is to take a hard look at the shortcomings in literacy education and tech while still finding a sense of hope in what's possible in education through learning and technology. Our guests include non-profit leaders, tech CEOs, state and district leadership, research leaders from top institutions, and a few teachers with stories that might bring you to tears. Hosted by Laura Glaab, VP of Strategy at Amira Learning. She is a lifetime educator following behind educator parents, grandparents, and great-grandparents. She's worked as a teacher and leader in public, private, and charter schools in places as far as India and as close to home as Boulder, Colorado. She holds degrees from Stanford, the University of Wyoming, and Kellogg School of Management. She thinks everyone should read Saint Joan by George Bernard Shaw and the entire Piggie and Elephant Collection by Mo Willems. More Than a Test is brought to you by Amira Learning. ---- About More Than a Test Our goal is to take a hard look at the shortcomings in literacy education and tech while still finding a sense of hope in what's possible in education through learning and technology. Our guests include non-profit leaders, tech CEOs, state and district leadership, research leaders from top institutions, and a few teachers with stories that might bring you to tears. Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0JWhVG2nXZfC3FxOviFoR0 Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/more-than-a-test/id1685012543 Listen on Other Platforms: https://more-than-a-test.captivate.fm/ ---- About Amira Learning Amira is the world’s first intelligent reading assistant that provides personalized tutoring to students at school, after school, or at home. Students working with Amira experience significant improvements in their reading fluency. About your Host, Laura Glaab Laura Glaab is a VP of Strategy at Amira Learning. She is a lifetime educator following behind educator parents, grandparents, and great-grandparents. She's worked as a teacher and leader in public, private, and charter schools in places as far as India and as close to home as Boulder, Colorado. She holds degrees from Stanford, the University of Wyoming, and Kellogg School of Management. She thinks everyone should read Saint Joan by George Bernard Shaw and the entire Piggie and Elephant Collection by Mo Willems. Connect with Laura LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/laura-glaab/ ---- Visit Amira Learning: https://www.amiralearning.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/amira-learning YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@amira-learning Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/amira_learning/?hl=en Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/p/Amira-Learning-App-100064672554061/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/AmiraLearning ---- Produced by Old Soul: https://bit.ly/3KuYfrD

  1. Fostering Belonging and Inclusion at Alamo Heights with Dr. Dana Bashara

    04/17/2025

    Fostering Belonging and Inclusion at Alamo Heights with Dr. Dana Bashara

    In this episode, host Jennie Tookoian engages in a rich conversation with Dr. Dana Bashara, the superintendent of the Alamo Heights Independent School District in Central San Antonio. Dr. Bashara embodies the belief that education is a heartfelt mission beyond just a career path, infusing her leadership with purpose and personal engagement. Alamo Heights stands out for its historical roots dating back to 1909 and its strong sense of community, serving 4,800 students across five campuses within a unique, landlocked nine square miles. Dr. Bashara, who has dedicated nearly three decades to the district, shines a light on the district's emphasis on belonging, diversity, and academic excellence, harmoniously balanced with innovative programs like early literacy, a local community-based accountability system, and creative instructional methods from classroom carpet circles to rocketry projects. Join us as Dr. Bashara shares her experiences and insights into how the district integrates character education, cultural diversity, and community values into a robust educational framework. From supporting teachers with autonomy in their classrooms to engaging students in profound learning experiences, she highlights the importance of listening tours and stay interviews in fostering an inclusive and supportive environment. Learn about her passionate leadership journey, the influence of mentors, and her relentless pursuit of excellence in shaping a future where education is truly more than a test. Key Moments 04:53 Alma Heights Staff Student Benefit 06:23 Unexpected Passion for Elm Heights Education 11:21 Community-Driven Educational Decisions 12:53 "Small Community, Big Initiatives" 17:52 Classroom Transformation: Engaging Learning Environments 19:34 Innovative Entrepreneurial and Bilingual Education 25:43 Balancing Leadership and Motherhood 28:01 Gender Differences in Job Applications 32:06 "Championing the Teaching Profession" 35:55 Empowered Teachers, Diverse Classrooms 39:35 Legacy of Passionate Hiring 41:18 Future Reflections on District Impact 43:41 Alamo Heights: Strong Teacher Retention 47:09 "Heartfelt Leadership Conversation" Connect with Dr. Dana Bashara Website: https://www.ahisd.net/

    48 min
  2. Redefining Education: Doctor Micah Studer's Vision for Charter Schools

    03/27/2025

    Redefining Education: Doctor Micah Studer's Vision for Charter Schools

    Welcome to another episode of "More Than a Test." In this episode, we're excited to have Dr. Micah Studer, executive director of Visions in Education Charter School, share insights into how the school is transforming the educational landscape in California. Visions, an online and homeschool program, serves a wide and diverse student body, focusing on personalized learning and community engagement. Dr. Studer discusses the school's innovative strategies that prioritize strong relationships between teachers, students, and families, creating a supportive and inclusive environment. With stories of student resilience and tailored educational approaches, Dr. Studer illustrates how Visions is preparing students for success in a rapidly evolving world. Join us to learn more about this unique educational model and its impact on student achievement. Key Moments 04:41 Visions' Pathway to Graduation Success 09:58 "Community and Success in Entrepreneurship" 12:52 Homeschool Community's Diverse Growth 13:55 "Parental Engagement in Homeschooling" 18:50 Teacher Satisfaction Boost from Changes 22:15 LCAP Leadership and Career Growth 24:36 Education's Role as the Great Equalizer 29:38 Ensuring Student Engagement and Support 33:08 "Connectivity's Crucial Last Mile" 35:00 "Launchpad: Streamlined School Tech Access" 38:14 "Academic Progress in Challenging Areas" 42:38 Leveraging Data for Innovation 45:23 LitRPG Book Unites Siblings 48:27 The Importance of Small Talk 50:03 "Importance of Communication in Relationships" Connect with Dr. Micah Studer LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/micahstuder/ Website: https://www.viedu.org/

    53 min
  3. Exploring Galveston ISD's Unique Initiatives with Superintendent Matthew Neighbors

    03/20/2025

    Exploring Galveston ISD's Unique Initiatives with Superintendent Matthew Neighbors

    In this episode of "More Than a Test," host Jennie Tookoian sits down with Dr. Matthew Neighbors, the superintendent of Galveston Independent School District (GISD). With nearly two decades of experience in the district, Dr. Neighbors shares his personal journey, discussing the unique qualities of the Galveston community and the exciting educational initiatives under his leadership. The conversation delves into how GISD is embracing AI-powered learning tools, expanding academic opportunities, and addressing teacher retention challenges. Dr. Neighbors highlights the district's commitment to empowering students and fostering a culture of trust and resilience among educators. Tune in to discover how GISD is navigating the evolving landscape of public education in Texas and the innovative programs that make it stand out. Key Moments 04:28 Free College and Job Opportunities08:18 Galveston's Resilient Historical Legacy12:29 "Building Trust with Principals"15:50 Midyear Student Feedback Survey Initiative16:39 Valuing Community and Maximizing Resources19:42 Galveston Teacher Incentive Program23:50 Inspiring Journey of a GISD Teacher28:19 AI Integration in Education Testing29:22 Effective Feedback Boosts Student Growth34:08 Integrated Student Support Database Pilot37:15 Survey Customization Feedback39:19 "Advancing Student Reading Levels"44:00 From Below Average to Top Graduate46:50 Eager for Solar Window Film50:09 Island's Recovery and Welcoming spiritConnect with Dr. Matthew Neighbors LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthew-neighbors-edd-39014b31/ Website: https://www.gisd.org/

    52 min
  4. The Evolution and Impact of Career Tech Education at Springfield Clark CTC

    03/13/2025

    The Evolution and Impact of Career Tech Education at Springfield Clark CTC

    In this episode of More Than a Test, host Jennie Tookoian welcomes Michelle Patrick, the superintendent of Springfield Clark Career Technology Center in Ohio, to discuss the transformative impact of Career and Technology Education (CTE) on students and communities. As February is Career Technical Education Month, Michelle shares the unique offerings and successes of her institution, which serves the students of Clark County by providing real-world skills and pathways to high-demand careers. From the wide range of programs available—from health sciences to engineering and agriculture—Michelle delves into the critical role of community partnerships, the evolving landscape of CTE, and how these programs equip students to emerge as career, college, and life ready. Whether discussing the challenges of addressing mental health in education or the rewarding experiences of seeing students thrive, this episode offers an inspiring glimpse into the future of vocational education. Join us to learn how Springfield Clark CTC is breaking stereotypes and creating life-changing opportunities for its students. Key Moments 05:22 Education & Cosmetology Training Program 07:33 New Facility and Oversubscription Challenges 09:58 School Campus Models and Transportation 15:33 Career Technical Education Vision 16:54 Full Circle: From Learner to Educator 21:40 Vocational School Stereotype Struggle 24:40 Ohio Career Tech Teacher Pathway 28:10 Integrated Curriculum for Practical Learning 29:35 Innovative Education and Whole-Child Focus 34:50 Block Schedule Boosts Academic Focus 37:27 Career Technical Education Rewards 39:10 Youth Anxiety: A Growing Concern 44:17 Transformative Teaching Beyond Testing 46:33 "Find Your Literary Connection" 49:00 Anxious Generation Insights Connect with Michelle Patrick Website: https://www.scctc.org/

    52 min
  5. Leading a Rural School District: Challenges and Opportunities with Devvon Dettra

    03/06/2025

    Leading a Rural School District: Challenges and Opportunities with Devvon Dettra

    In this episode of More Than a Test, host Jennie Tookoian converses with Devvon Dettra, the dynamic superintendent of Rolling Hills Local School District in Ohio. Devvon, a Meadowbrook High School alumnus, offers a unique perspective in tackling the distinct challenges and opportunities within small rural school districts. The discussion highlights how Rolling Hills is revolutionizing education through innovative measures such as consolidating into a single, cutting-edge building, promoting teacher collaboration, and expanding resources and technology accessibility. Tune in as Devvon shares the district's strategic approach to combating poverty, increasing student opportunities through career-tech education, and fostering stronger community engagement. He also reflects on his personal leadership journey, shaped profoundly by his father, a former superintendent. As Devvon outlines his vision for the future—including further efficiency improvements, bolstering early education, and embracing new initiatives—this conversation serves as a treasure trove of insights for educators, administrators, and those passionate about transforming educational landscapes. Join us for an inspiring look at the evolution of education in Rolling Hills with Devvon Dettra guiding the way. Key Moments 05:27 Unified Elementary Schools Collaboration 09:05 Rural Struggles and Resourcefulness 10:10 Mindshift Needed for Cultural Understanding 13:13 "People-Driven Curriculum Development" 17:41 Creative Hiring for Chemistry Teacher 20:03 Expanding Certifications in Education 24:14 Analyzing Rural District Challenges 25:52 Community Growth Through Youth Sports 30:09 Community Loss, Leadership Shift 33:02 Cultivating Leadership Through Experiential Learning 36:57 Influence Shift in Student Role Models 39:31 Proud of Administrative and Teaching Staff 43:54 "From Encyclopedias to AI" 46:08 "Social Skills Define Success" Connect with Devvon Dettra LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/devvon-dettra-7b28b7175 Website: https://rollinghills.k12.oh.us/

    48 min
  6. Leading with Technology: Enhancing Education Through Innovation and Operations with Ryan Altemeyer

    01/16/2025

    Leading with Technology: Enhancing Education Through Innovation and Operations with Ryan Altemeyer

    In More Than a Test podcast, host Jennie Tookoian sits down with Ryan Altemeyer, Associate Superintendent of the Monterey Peninsula Unified School District, to explore the intersection of technology, operations, and education. With over 12 years of experience in the technology industry and extensive leadership in educational operations, Altemeyer shares how his district is leveraging technology to enhance student learning and operational efficiency. The conversation delves into the unique challenges and opportunities of serving a diverse student population across Monterey, Marina, and Seaside, California. Altemeyer highlights the district's proactive approach to integrating technology, including early adoption of tools like Gmail and current exploration of AI to improve transparency in budgeting and enhance classroom experiences.  Tune in to learn how Monterey Peninsula Unified School District is navigating change and building a supportive learning environment for all students. Key Moments 01:33 – Overview of Monterey Peninsula Unified School District 03:51 – Priorities for Students and the Community 05:08 – Ryan’s Journey into Education Leadership 08:46 – Adoption and Impact of AI in Education 11:27 – Developing Policies for Student Use of AI 13:01 – Transition into Leadership and Influences 18:11 – Unifying Departments Around Student-Centered Goals 22:00 – Funding Priorities and Early Literacy Focus 27:11 – Declining Enrollment and Cost of Living Challenges 30:23 – Teacher Recruitment and Retention Efforts 31:06 – Balancing Technology Innovation and Security Connect with Ryan Altemeyer LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/altemeyer/ Website: https://www.mpusd.net/

    37 min
  7. Improving Education with Dr. Svetlana Cvetkovic: From Data to Literacy

    01/09/2025

    Improving Education with Dr. Svetlana Cvetkovic: From Data to Literacy

    Dr. Svetlana Cvetkovic is a passionate educator, researcher, and founder of Encoding Literacy. Dr. Cvetkovic shares her journey from a childhood love of Nancy Drew's books to becoming a literacy specialist committed to addressing the urgent issue of adult illiteracy in America. We'll delve into the importance of effectively using test results to improve education, the role of AI in customizing learning materials, and why personalized, evidence-based teaching methods are critical for overcoming reading difficulties. Dr. Cvetkovic will also discuss her innovative speech-first literacy approach and the potential of fMRI technology to advance our understanding of the reading brain. Join us as we reflect on the importance of early intervention, the challenges faced by struggling readers, and Dr. Cvetkovic's mission to create a joyful and efficient learning environment. We'll also touch on the surprising delays in integrating educational research into practice and the exciting future of the "science of learning." Stay tuned for an inspiring and insightful conversation highlighting effective literacy education's power. Key Moments 20:29 Depends on the individual's journey and trauma experienced. 24:04 Prioritize prevention in teaching reading and spelling. 28:14 Spelling indicates reading issues and needs attention. 32:20 Need vetted resources, a common understanding among educators. 35:40 Teachers juggle multiple roles and responsibilities daily. 48:00 Maya Angelou's advice: Change or adjust attitude. 50:55 Elderly advocate struggles to improve literacy outcome Connect with Dr. Svetlana Cvetkovic LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/svetlana-cvetkovic-phd-1a161b301/ Website: https://www.encodingliteracy.com/svetlana-cvetkovic

    53 min
  8. Equity and Excellence in Education: Dr. Bonita Jamison’s Approach at MRH Schools

    12/19/2024

    Equity and Excellence in Education: Dr. Bonita Jamison’s Approach at MRH Schools

    In this episode, we explore MRH’s comprehensive strategic plan, "Honoring our history and shaping our future." We’ll touch on critical issues such as staff retention, made more challenging by the pandemic, and the importance of genuine community engagement that goes beyond simple board meetings. Dr. Jamison will share her reflections on influential books like "Jim Crow's Pink Slip" and "The Anxious Generation," which have shaped her approach to leadership. Dr. Jamison will also introduce us to MRH’s distinctive "looping" system, aimed at cultivating sustained relationships between students and educators, and the district's move towards competency-based education that values real-world skills over mere test scores. Her leadership involves being a "lead learner," participating in district-wide professional development, reflecting her commitment to lifelong learning. We'll also discuss the financial challenges facing the district, particularly the impact of declining COVID relief funds, and Dr. Jamison's dedication to providing multiple pathways to success for students, ranging from traditional academic routes to career readiness programs and internships. Key Moments 10:38 Experiences and relationships foster belonging and impact. 12:58 Board prioritizes equity in education decisions. 18:27 Engaging community, showcasing SEL work, board roundtables. 23:22 Local funding crucial; sustaining programs amid challenges. 31:32 Grant to enhance district's competency-based education. 36:57 Mentor vital in career, combating imposter syndrome. 39:02 Emphasize pathways, market assets in education change. 45:05 Reimagining education by prioritizing student-driven learning. 48:44 Opportunity to foster belonging and address turnover. 56:51 Cellphone connects me with distant family. 01:03:29 Explore diverse paths to success, disrupt paradigms. 01:05:39 Honored to speak about dedicated teachers' work. Connect with Dr.Bonita Jamison LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bonita-e-jamison-ed-d-she-her-hers-3971b179/ Website:https://www.mrhschools.net/Page/1

    1h 7m

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Our goal is to take a hard look at the shortcomings in literacy education and tech while still finding a sense of hope in what's possible in education through learning and technology. Our guests include non-profit leaders, tech CEOs, state and district leadership, research leaders from top institutions, and a few teachers with stories that might bring you to tears. Hosted by Laura Glaab, VP of Strategy at Amira Learning. She is a lifetime educator following behind educator parents, grandparents, and great-grandparents. She's worked as a teacher and leader in public, private, and charter schools in places as far as India and as close to home as Boulder, Colorado. She holds degrees from Stanford, the University of Wyoming, and Kellogg School of Management. She thinks everyone should read Saint Joan by George Bernard Shaw and the entire Piggie and Elephant Collection by Mo Willems. More Than a Test is brought to you by Amira Learning. ---- About More Than a Test Our goal is to take a hard look at the shortcomings in literacy education and tech while still finding a sense of hope in what's possible in education through learning and technology. Our guests include non-profit leaders, tech CEOs, state and district leadership, research leaders from top institutions, and a few teachers with stories that might bring you to tears. Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0JWhVG2nXZfC3FxOviFoR0 Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/more-than-a-test/id1685012543 Listen on Other Platforms: https://more-than-a-test.captivate.fm/ ---- About Amira Learning Amira is the world’s first intelligent reading assistant that provides personalized tutoring to students at school, after school, or at home. Students working with Amira experience significant improvements in their reading fluency. About your Host, Laura Glaab Laura Glaab is a VP of Strategy at Amira Learning. She is a lifetime educator following behind educator parents, grandparents, and great-grandparents. She's worked as a teacher and leader in public, private, and charter schools in places as far as India and as close to home as Boulder, Colorado. She holds degrees from Stanford, the University of Wyoming, and Kellogg School of Management. She thinks everyone should read Saint Joan by George Bernard Shaw and the entire Piggie and Elephant Collection by Mo Willems. Connect with Laura LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/laura-glaab/ ---- Visit Amira Learning: https://www.amiralearning.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/amira-learning YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@amira-learning Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/amira_learning/?hl=en Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/p/Amira-Learning-App-100064672554061/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/AmiraLearning ---- Produced by Old Soul: https://bit.ly/3KuYfrD