Movers, Shakers & Rainmakers

Zach Sandberg
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Movers, Shakers & Rainmakers

Welcome to "Movers, Shakers & Rainmakers," the must-listen podcast for legal professionals seeking a deep dive into the Biglaw lateral market. Join renowned legal journalist David Lat and market expert Zach Sandberg as they dissect the most significant lateral partner moves, discuss current trends in the legal industry, and provide invaluable insights into the ever-evolving ecosystem of the world's largest law firms. Featuring exclusive interviews with prominent Biglaw lawyers, General Counsels, and CEOs, "Movers, Shakers & Rainmakers" offers unique perspectives on the industry. With engaging conversations and expert analysis, "Movers, Shakers & Rainmakers" is your ultimate resource to stay ahead of the curve in the fast-paced and competitive world of Biglaw. Subscribe now and equip yourself with the knowledge needed to navigate the complex legal landscape with confidence.

  1. JUN 21

    Episode 68: David Lat and Zach Sandberg Analyze the 2024 Vault Rankings

    In this epidose of "Movers, Shakers & Rainmakers," David Lat and Zach Sandberg discuss the newly released 2024 Vault Rankings. How are the Vault rankings formulated? Who moved up? Who dropped down? And why? For the Move of the Week, David discusses Norton Rose's hiring of a 12 attorney team from Bryan Cave, while Zach analyzes Mayer Brown's addition of Gabrielle Levin from Gibson Dunn to co-lead their Employment Litigation & Counseling practice.

    29 min
  2. Episode 67: Bridget McCormack, CEO of the American Arbitration Association, on Creating Access to Justice and the Future of Dispute Resolution

    JUN 13

    Episode 67: Bridget McCormack, CEO of the American Arbitration Association, on Creating Access to Justice and the Future of Dispute Resolution

    This week, on "Movers, Shakers & Rainmakers," we interview Chief Justice Bridget Mary McCormack, CEO and President of the American Arbitration Association (AAA). Bridget served as the Chief Justice of the Michigan Supreme Court before assuming leadership of the AAA. In this episode, we journey through the early stages of Bridget's career as a public interest lawyer and professor, before she made the bold move of entering the election for the Michigan Supreme Court in 2012. Bridget tells us about her decision, after an impressive decade on the bench, to join the AAA, where she has worked to provide more people with access to justice by adopting new technologies in online dispute resolution. She highlights the AAA's recent acquisition of ODR.com and speaks to the significant influence of artificial intelligence in the development of alternative dispute resolution. For the move of the week, David covers Cooley's hiring of federal prosecutor John Bostic, who garnered significant renown during the investigation and trial of Theranos CEO Elizabeth Holmes. Zach discusses Paul Hastings' recent surge of lateral finance and restructuring partner hiring, which includes a group of eleven private credit and special situations partners that just joined the firm, led by Jennifer Daly.

    43 min

  3. MAY 24

    Episode 66: Kyle Gann, Winston & Strawn Corporate Partner on the Struggle, Acceptance and Servanthood

    In this episode of Movers, Shakers & Rainmakers, we go down the rabbit hole with Kyle Gann, corporate partner at Winston & Strawn. Kyle defied his father's advice and became a lawyer anyway, overcoming an injury that nearly snatched his dream of becoming an attorney from his grasp. On the show, our conversation goes in a different direction than we're used to: Kyle opens up and shares vulnerably about his past. If you have a penchant for philosophy, you will enjoy our discussion about how the fear of loss can direct one's course in life. Finally, Kyle sheds light on the main law by which he operates: live with joy. For the Move of the Week, David covers Cahill's opening of a Wilmington office with a group of crypto hires while Zach speaks to Sullivan & Cromwell's addition of a prominent tech M&A group from Skadden.

    39 min

  4. MAY 10

    Episode 65: David Lat and Zach Sandberg Dissect the 2023 Am Law 200 Law Firm Rankings

    This week, on Movers, Shakers & Rainmakers, our hosts David Lat and Zach Sandberg do a deep dive on the most recent set of the American Lawyer's famed law firm rankings—both the Am Law 100 ranking, which came out last month, and the Second Hundred ranking, which was just released. Who is moving up in the world? Are there firms struggling? What factors are driving the success of the firms that are flourishing? Join our hosts as they run through numerous metrics that measure a firm's financial health and performance in this must-listen episode. For his move of the week, David follows another high-profile acquisition by Paul Weiss, which seems to be on a hiring spree, while Zach breaks down Baker McKenzie's onboarding of a major West Coast transactional team from Munger.

    28 min

  5. APR 25

    Episode 64: Melissa Saleh, Co-Founder of FairPlay AI on Career Throughlines, Storytelling, and Disrupting an Industry

    This week, on Movers, Shakers & Rainmakers, our hosts speak with Melissa Saleh, whose start-up, FairPlay AI, is introducing AI-powered models that increase fairness and profits for lenders. Melissa and David go back twenty years to the early days of blogging when Melissa shook up the legal industry with her controversial blog, Opinionistas. Melissa would leave the practice of law to go full force into the world of digital journalism, writing for numerous prominent media brands. We talk about career throughlines, and it just so happens that Melissa had a particularly powerful throughline in both her narrative work and career: technology's influence on our lives. It was this current that ultimately pulled her into the dynamic role that she now occupies: that of a tech founder. For the move of the week, David discusses the proposed merger between Troutman Pepper and Locke Lorde, while Zach analyzes a multi-office group hired by Shook, Hardy & Bacon.

    38 min

  6. APR 11

    Episode 63: Katherine Allen, CEO and Co-Founder of Flo Recruit on Innovating Firm Recruitment

    This week on Movers, Shakers & Rainmakers, we sit down with Katherine Allen, CEO and Co-Founder of Flo Recruit, a company making waves in the way both law schools and law firms orchestrate their recruitment processes. Katherine tells us the story of how she started innovating in the legal industry before graduating from college. We then discuss how the company strives to tackle some of the more complex operational challenges faced by law firms in their never-ending efforts to recruit the top talent. For his move of the week, Zach covers Javad Asghari’s move to Simpson Thacher, while David dives into a string of recent high-profile antitrust hires.

    29 min

  7. MAR 29

    Episode 62 - Colin Levy, Evangelist and Director of Legal at Malbek on Legal Tech

    In this episode of Movers, Shakers & Rainmakers, we tackle all things legal technology with Colin Levy, a thought leader in the field. In his current role as Evangelist and Director of Legal at Malbek, Colin acts as a luminary for those not yet accustomed to rapidly-evolving technology and the increasingly important role it plays in attorneys’ lives. Join us for this wide-ranging discussion, covering topics from the ability of AI to augment performance to a candid conversation with Colin about his own mental health journey. For the move of the week, Zach covers Barnes & Thornburg’s recent acquisition on a restructuring team in Atlanta, while David takes a look at McDermott’s hiring of a white collar group from Orrick, led by Guy Singer.

    29 min

  8. MAR 14

    Episode 61 - Pierre Gentin, Chief Legal Officer at McKinsey & Co, on Passion and Professionalism

    In this episode, we have a deep, thoughtful conversation with Pierre Gentin, McKinsey's Chief Legal Officer and the first non-consultant elected a senior partner in the firm's almost 100-year history. Pierre defines the elements of excellence to which attorneys can aspire while waxing philosophical about how people can find meaning in their work. As Pierre so eloquently puts it, "There are arrows of inspiration flying over us all the time, but do we reach up and grab them?" The conversation lends a fresh perspective to the work that we do day in and day out, while also digging into the dynamics of an esteemed organization, like McKinsey, as it expands globally.

    39 min
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Welcome to "Movers, Shakers & Rainmakers," the must-listen podcast for legal professionals seeking a deep dive into the Biglaw lateral market. Join renowned legal journalist David Lat and market expert Zach Sandberg as they dissect the most significant lateral partner moves, discuss current trends in the legal industry, and provide invaluable insights into the ever-evolving ecosystem of the world's largest law firms. Featuring exclusive interviews with prominent Biglaw lawyers, General Counsels, and CEOs, "Movers, Shakers & Rainmakers" offers unique perspectives on the industry. With engaging conversations and expert analysis, "Movers, Shakers & Rainmakers" is your ultimate resource to stay ahead of the curve in the fast-paced and competitive world of Biglaw. Subscribe now and equip yourself with the knowledge needed to navigate the complex legal landscape with confidence.

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