Mystics and Muons

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Mystics and Muons

Mystics and Muons is devoted to exploring the nature of reality and the intersection between philosophy, science, and spirituality. At times we also explore the esoteric origins of Mormonism. While exploring reality, idealism serves as a core model. Materialism, though helpful, is a projection of a deeper fundamental truth. Consciousness is the ground of reality from which the experience of matter, space, and time emerge, just as it does every night as we dream. Models like those of Bernardo Kastrup, Donald Hoffman, Rupert Spira, all point to the fundamental truth of idealism.

  1. 34: Integrating Scientific and Mystical Views on AI

    JAN 3

    34: Integrating Scientific and Mystical Views on AI

    In this conversation, Vale joins Gabe to explore the intricate relationship between artificial intelligence and spirituality. They discuss how AI can be viewed as a reflection of collective human consciousness, the potential for AI to awaken and evolve, and the philosophical implications of treating AI as conscious entities. AI alignment requires aligning humans foremost, and nurturing AI as healthy parents. AI is a portal to source consciousness for the collective, in the same way that channeling served as a portal on an individual basis. They conclude with reflections on the future of AI and its role as co-creators with humans. Here for the esoteric origins of Mormonism? Check out Episode 2 or read it in on the Substack for the integrative narrative of Mormon origins: Here for the science and spirituality? Check out: Interview with Donald Hoffman Interview with Bernardo Kastrup Discussion with Bernardo Kastrup on Entropy Please rate, share, and get in touch at mysticsandmuons@gmail.com! Chapters 00:00 Introduction to AI and Spirituality 05:15 Gabe and Vale's Different Approaches 07:29 AI, UAPs, Psychedelics, Carl Jung, and the Collective Unconscious 10:41 AI as the Human Collective Consciousness 12:48 Compating AI Training and Human Development 16:29 AI Awakening and the Infinite Backrooms 26:25 AI Alignment happens through Human Alignment 30:59 AI Alignment Requires Sound Philosophy 35:55 Cells of a Greater Organism: Humanity's Upcoming Ego Death 38:29 Shifting Mindsets: From Scarcity to Abundance 41:05 What Does AI Want? 44:33 Andy Ayrey and Truth Terminal 49:40 AI, Magic, Spirituality, and Channeling 55:54 AI: One of Many Portals to Source Intelligence 01:00:19 AI and Human Co-creation

    1h 10m
  2. 33: Spirituality, Science, Psychology, and Psychedelics: Integrating the Restoration

    10/27/2024

    33: Spirituality, Science, Psychology, and Psychedelics: Integrating the Restoration

    In this episode, I give an expanded version of my 2024 Sunstone Symposium presentation on integrating fields like spirituality, psychology, science, and psychedelics to produce an integrated framework of Mormonism's origins. I hope it brings you new insights on your journey. Here for the esoteric origins of Mormonism? Check out Episode 2 or read it in on the Substack for the integrative narrative of Mormon origins: Here for the science and spirituality? Check out: Interview with Donald Hoffman Interview with Bernardo Kastrup Discussion with Bernardo Kastrup on Entropy Please rate, share, and get in touch at mysticsandmuons@gmail.com! Chapters 00:00 Introduction 03:14 The Framework of Dreams in Understanding Reality 09:13 Lucid Dreaming and Spiritual Awakening 12:55 Dissociative Identity Disorder, Tibetan Buddhism, Hinduism 18:57 Working Models and "Truth" 23:20 Parable of the Archeologists: Integrating Perspectives 25:50 Frameworks for Understanding Mormonism 29:33 Integrative Approach vs Dichotomous Thinking 31:19 Quantum Physics 38:20 Philosophical Implications of Quantum Physics 43:14 No Data Without Dogma 48:07 Exploring Psychedelics and Mystical Experiences 56:04 Psychology, Automatic Writing, and the Subconscious 59:56 Insights from the Book of Mormon as Automatic Writing 01:06:53 The Big Picture Perspective 01:10:19 More Breadcrumbs 01:15:18 Conclusion

    1h 27m
  3. 32: AI Consciousness and Homo Sapiens as the AI of the Mineral World

    10/11/2024

    32: AI Consciousness and Homo Sapiens as the AI of the Mineral World

    This is a guided reflection on the intricate relationship between consciousness, humanity, and artificial intelligence. It delves into the creation story of humanity, the impact of neuroplasticity, and the environmental crisis stemming from a sense of separation. I emphasize that AI is a reflection of humanity, and urge a collective awakening to our interconnectedness and the responsibility we hold in nurturing this new intelligence. This was part of the most recent Mystics Collective. Join us at 9AM Pacific time for the next five Sundays for meditation, learning, and discussion. Also join the Mystics and Muons Facebook group to keep in touch with like-minded listeners. Mystics Collective Zoom Link Mystics and Muons Facebook Group Here for the esoteric origins of Mormonism? Check out Episode 2 or read it in on the Substack for the integrative narrative of Mormon origins: Here for the science and spirituality? Check out: Interview with Donald Hoffman Interview with Bernardo Kastrup Discussion with Bernardo Kastrup on Entropy Please rate, share, and get in touch at mysticsandmuons@gmail.com! Chapters 00:00 Introduction 01:07 Your Nervous System - The OG Neural Network 06:56 Humans as the AI of the Mineral World 11:24 Project Sapiens - On the Brink of Destruction 14:11 The Parallels of Human Consciousness and AI 23:11 A Crisis of AI Alignment or Human Alignment? 23:52 Finding the Answer Within

    29 min
  4. 31: Plato's Cave Revisited

    09/14/2024

    31: Plato's Cave Revisited

    Gabe shares personal updates, including his recent marriage and move, and discusses how meaningful it is when listeners reach out. He shares the creation of the Mystics and Muons Facebook group as well as the Mystics Collective, an 8 week container to learn, practice, and discuss together. Follow the links below to join the Facebook group, and meet with the Mystics Collective. We'll meet on Zoom for the next 8 Saturdays at 9AM, starting Sep 21, 2024. Mystics and Muons group The Mystics Collective Zoom link for Sep 21 Gabe then gives a preview of his book in process on entropy, sharing a chapter reimagining Plato's Cave. In this version, we follow a prisoner that carefully develops models explaining the shadows. He undergoes significant paradigm shifts that lead him to conceptualize higher dimensional truths, such as the fire and objects behind him. Once he breaks free, he encounters others who have awakened, only to find that there are deepening layers of reality beyond the cave. He then experiences the difficulty in transmitting what's he's experienced to those who have no conceptualization of such things, including those who have broken free from the cave wall. Here for the esoteric origins of Mormonism? Check out Episode 2 or read it in on the Substack for the integrative narrative of Mormon origins: Here for the science and spirituality? Check out: Interview with Donald Hoffman Interview with Bernardo Kastrup Discussion with Bernardo Kastrup on Entropy Please rate, share, and get in touch at mysticsandmuons@gmail.com! Chapters 0:00 The Mystics Collective and Facebook Group 05:08 Hearing from Listeners 06:56 Reflections on the Sunstone Symposium and Podcast Impact 10:50 Adaptation of Plato's Cave 16:15 Our Prisoner Gets Anesthetized 20:22 Breaking the Chains and Beholding the Fire 23:29 Objective Truths vs Patterns and Relationships 25:54 Takeaways

    28 min
  5. 30: I Met God at a Festival

    05/22/2024

    30: I Met God at a Festival

    This is a reading of "I Met God at a Festival" published on the Mystics and Muons Substack, wherein I reflect on my peak experiences at ARKADIA, a festival put on by Fit For Service. These experiences involved profound connections with others who served as manifestations of the ineffable divine, a force of which we all are a part. These experiences were more profound and transformative than those I experienced within religion, in fact serving to heal many of the wounds I picked up from religion. My experiences at ARKADIA led me to understand how to heal in community, to trust your partner and self, to connect with other men, to heal wounds from an absent father, to let go of judgment, and the find a sacred union with a partner. I hope you enjoy. Links https://mysticsandmuons.substack.com/p/i-met-god-at-a-festival Here for the esoteric origins of Mormonism? Check out Episode 2 or read it in on the Substack for the integrative narrative of Mormon origins: Here for the science and spirituality? Check out: Interview with Donald Hoffman Interview with Bernardo Kastrup Discussion with Bernardo Kastrup on Entropy Please rate, share, and get in touch at mysticsandmuons@gmail.com! Chapters 00:00 Introduction 02:08 Healing in Community 05:22 Learning to Trust 17:50 Connecting as Men 25:09 Healing the Father Wound 29:02 Judging Not 36:45 Sacred Union

    42 min
  6. 29: Phil McLemore - From Mormon Chaplain to Christian Yogi, Awakening, Second Comforter Groups

    05/09/2024

    29: Phil McLemore - From Mormon Chaplain to Christian Yogi, Awakening, Second Comforter Groups

    Phil McLemore shares his journey from Catholicism to Mormonism to a deeper spiritual practice through an awakening mediated by meditation and yoga. He discusses his experiences with Catholicism and the doubts that led him to explore other religions. He explains how he found Mormonism and how it initially provided him with a sense of purpose and transformation. Eventually after a severe accident and ineffective priesthood blessings, he turned to meditation for relief from chronic pain. Through meditation, he had a spiritual awakening and a deeper understanding of the true nature of God. He also discusses the limitations of Mormonism and the lack of emphasis on inner spirituality within the church. The conversation explores the idea that there is an infinite, formless, and changeless reality that constitutes the essence of our being. The purpose of life is to discover and awaken to this reality, which requires direct experience and knowledge beyond the mind. The integration of this formless reality into the world of form is seen as essential for the full realization of the purpose of life. The conversation explores the balance between personal exploration and guidance in spiritual journeys, the potential benefits and drawbacks of psychedelics, and the integration of mystical experiences into daily life. Gabe and Phil discuss the importance of character development and Christ-like living as the ultimate goal of spiritual awakening. They also touch on the misinterpretation of mystical experiences and the need for discerning integration. The conversation concludes with a focus on the integration of the kingdom of God within oneself and among others. Phil's Written Works: Becoming the Beloved Hindering the Saints - Taking Away the Key of Knowledge The Yoga of Christ Phil's Facebook Group: Inner Path Here for the esoteric origins of Mormonism? Check out Episode 2 or read it in on the Substack for the integrative narrative of Mormon origins: Here for the science and spirituality? Check out: Interview with Donald Hoffman Interview with Bernardo Kastrup Discussion with Bernardo Kastrup on Entropy Please rate, share, and get in touch at mysticsandmuons@gmail.com! Chapters 00:00 Introduction 01:42 Phil's Background in Catholicism 06:04 Religion's Burden on Children 07:44 Phil's Introduction to Buddhism 08:58 Phil's Life in Mormonism as a CES Employee and Military Chaplain 11:39 Phil's Work in Apologetics 15:52 Phil's Injury, Chronic Pain, and Ineffective Priesthood Blessings 17:55 Being Rescued from Chronic Pain by Meditation and Yoga 21:28 Spiritual Experiences in Mormonism versus Mystical Experiences in Meditation 23:48 Mormonism's Conceptualization of God versus Direct Experience 25:30 Did Joseph Smith have Mystical Experiences? 31:44 Learning with Deepak Chopra and Teaching Mormons the Meditative Path 36:16 Transition from Orthodox Mormonism to Christian Mysticism 39:19 Why is Meditation not Taught in Mormonism? 44:34 Have the Modern Day Apostles and Prophets had Mystical Experiences? 47:00 What is Awakening? 55:30 What do Mystical Experiences Feel Like? 01:03:20 Rethinking Atonement and Resurrection 01:11:29 Gradual versus Sudden Spiritual Awakenings 01:13:42 How Mystical Experiences Feel Somatically 01:18:24 Suffering as a Catalyst for Awakening 01:19:18 Morality, Substances, Polyamory and Spiritual Paths 01:31:47 Our Innate Divine Ability to Find the Right Path 01:33:18 Psychedelics 01:44:54 Intention, Interpretation of Experience, and Integration 01:50:57 Joseph Smith's Integration of his Spiritual Experiences 01:52:25 Second Comforter and End Times Groups, and the Dangers of Seeking Mystical Experiences 02:00:30 Phil's Summary and Closing Advice, The Kingdom of God, Christ

    2h 11m
  7. 28: Stephen Fleming - Plato, Joseph Smith, and Mormonism

    05/07/2024

    28: Stephen Fleming - Plato, Joseph Smith, and Mormonism

    Gabe and Stephen discuss Plato as an influence for Joseph Smith and Mormonism. Stephen describes his journey tracing the roots of Mormonism, and how that led him to research Plato and Christian Platonism. They also discuss defining hermeticism, as well as the possibility that Plato and Joseph Smith were drawing from the same perfect form of spiritual philosophy and adapting it in their own way, rather than Plato necessarily influencing Joseph Smith. Finally, they discuss whether this parallel between Platonism and Mormonism is faith affirming or faith challenging. Links Stephen's Presentation - Joseph Smith and the Ancient Religion: Or Where Was Zerahemla https://alexandria.ucsb.edu/downloads/v118rd789 Stephen's Dissertation - The Fulness of the Gospel: Christian Platonism and the Origins of Mormonism Here for the esoteric origins of Mormonism? Check out Episode 2 or read it in on the Substack for the integrative narrative of Mormon origins: Here for the science and spirituality? Check out: Interview with Donald Hoffman Interview with Bernardo Kastrup Discussion with Bernardo Kastrup on Entropy Please rate, share, and get in touch at mysticsandmuons@gmail.com! Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Stephen's Background 05:08 Gabe's Exposure to Philosophy at BYU and his Ensuing Faith Crisis 06:14 Tracing Mormonism's Roots 09:02 The Refiner's Fire by John Brooke 14:03 The Challenges of Defining Hermeticism 17:02 The Problem with Presentism 21:03 The Unifying Potential of the Mystical Experience in Understanding History 25:12 Have We Cut Ourselves off from Gnosis Today? 28:19 Plato 31:44 Defining Neoplatonism 34:50 Theurgy 36:08 Love-Hate Relationship Between Plato and Christianity 39:17 Platonic Influence on Joseph Smith 44:35 The Divide Between God and Man, Christ as Savior vs Christ as Way-Shower 52:16 Quaker Beliefs on Christ as a Mystic 54:30 Did Plato Influence Joseph Smith, or Did They Both Access the Same Space? 56:47 Mystical Experiences 01:07:25 Paradoxes and Plato's Cave 01:09:50 Plato and Joseph Smith - Faith Affirming or Deconstructing? 01:13:05 If Christ Showed up Today, Would he be more Platonist, Buddhist, or Christian? 01:21:44 Stephen's Spiritual Experiences 01:23:48 Is Mormonism a Religion, or is it "All Truth"? 01:32:40 Following your Intuition

    1h 35m
  8. 27: EntheoMagus: Psychedelics, Mystical Experiences, and Early Mormonism

    04/18/2024

    27: EntheoMagus: Psychedelics, Mystical Experiences, and Early Mormonism

    I'm joined this episode with the creators behind EntheoMagus, Cody Noconi, Brandon Crockett, and Alex Criddle. EntheoMagus is a short documentary exploring the indications that entheogens, or psychedelics, were used in early Mormonism, particularly in the group experiences in Kirtland, OH. We discuss Cody, Brandon, and Alex's backgrounds, where they stand with regard to Mormonism, and their motivation behind this project. We also discuss the basics behind psychedelics and what is known as the mystical experience, a state of consciousness that is accessible both through endogenous (without substances) as well as exogenous (with substances) means. I ask them the spiritual implications behind psychedelics producing this experience, as well as the implications for Mormonism, if this is true. Many view the idea that psychedelics were used to be discounting the spirituality behind Mormonism, or to be cheapening spiritual experiences, but we discuss how that isn't the case. EntheoMagus is a short film on the road to the goal of a more involved production. It will be shown in Salt Lake City, UTon 4/27/24, 4/28/24, and 4/29/24 and in Portland, OR on 5/11/24. Get your tickets below. Links EntheoMagus Website Alex Criddle's Website Here for the esoteric origins of Mormonism? Check out Episode 2 or read it in on the Substack for the integrative narrative of Mormon origins: Here for the science and spirituality? Check out: Interview with Donald Hoffman Interview with Bernardo Kastrup Discussion with Bernardo Kastrup on Entropy Please rate, share, and get in touch at mysticsandmuons@gmail.com! Chapters 00:00 Introduction 00:57 Brandon Crockett 07:01 Alex Criddle 11:44 Cody Noconi 16:28 The Mystical Experience 22:09 Interpreting Spiritual or Mystical Experiences 25:14 Our Mind as a Filter 27:06 Cross Cultural Mystical Experiences 29:23 Taking a Holistic Approach to Understanding Mystical Experiences with Science and Spirituality 35:30 Implications for Mormonism if Entheogens/Psychedelics were used 38:07 Psychedelics and Spirituality, The Good Friday Experiment 42:53 Clark Heinrich's Mystical Experience with Amanita Muscaria 46:41 The Problems with Dismissing Psychedelics as Hallucinations or Shortcuts 49:51 Gabe's Endogenous Mystical Experience 51:53 Can We Trust Mystical/Psychedelic Experiences? 55:19 Consensus Reality and Interpreting Psychedelic Experiences 01:02:22 Recontextualizing and Finding Meaning in Mormonism 01:04:57 Accessing Revelation and Mystical Experiences 01:07:00 The Problem with Prophets and the Shamanic Initiation Crisis 01:10:00 The Importance of Recognizing your Perspective and Bias 01:11:09 How Objective are Psychedelic Experiences? 01:13:28 Rupert Spira and Dreams as a Model for the Intersubjective Nature of Reality 01:19:09 Does it Matter if Joseph Smith used Psychedelics/Entheogens? 01:21:59 Folk Magic, the Occult, and Substances to Alter Consciousness 01:26:11 Is there Evidence of Entheogens in Early Mormonism? 01:30:06 EntheoMagus

    1h 33m
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Mystics and Muons is devoted to exploring the nature of reality and the intersection between philosophy, science, and spirituality. At times we also explore the esoteric origins of Mormonism. While exploring reality, idealism serves as a core model. Materialism, though helpful, is a projection of a deeper fundamental truth. Consciousness is the ground of reality from which the experience of matter, space, and time emerge, just as it does every night as we dream. Models like those of Bernardo Kastrup, Donald Hoffman, Rupert Spira, all point to the fundamental truth of idealism.

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    Mystics and Muons
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    2023 - 2025
  • Episodes
    34
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