Never A Phase Podcast

Never A Phase Network
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Never A Phase Network: Each episode, The Swemo Guy sits down with friends from across the scene to talk about their history with the music we love, as well as the current Hot Topics shaping the future of the genre. We end the show with a lightning round of questions about popular scene debates, band life, food on the road, and more.

Episodes

  1. Never A Phase 10: American Vanity

    APR 24

    Never A Phase 10: American Vanity

    This week, Swemo talks to the band American Vanity. American Vanity talks bout their time as Burn The Jukebox, and burning their old image to the ground. Hear about their journey from a cover band to an original act, their approach to social media and online negativity, and their creative process for their upcoming album '17'. They share insights on genre blending, songwriting, and staying authentic in the digital age. American Vanity share their experiences navigating social media, mental health, creative processes, and musical influences. Find American Vanity @ThisIsAmericanVanity on all platforms UseCode EMOTEN to save 10% on Eargasm Earplugs!    SWEMO www.instagram.com/theswemoguy www.youtube.com/@theswemoguy www.tiktok.com/@theswemoguy   THE NEVER A PHASENETWORK www.neveraphasenetwork.com www.instagram.com/neveraphasenetwork www.youtube.com/@neveraphasenetwork www.tiktok.com/@neveraphasenetwork

    1h 10m
  2. Never A Phase 9: Author Amanda Wilson

    APR 17

    Never A Phase 9: Author Amanda Wilson

    Amanda Wilson shares her journey of religious deconstruction, the influence of music and culture, and her upcoming studies in Scotland. This conversation explores faith, family dynamics, and the power of storytelling to foster understanding and healing. Buy Amanda's Book Here 00:00 Introduction to Amanda Wilson and Her Book 02:45 Exploring Themes of Faith and Music 03:15 Introduction to Amanda Wilson and Her Journey 06:00 The Viral Announcement and Family Dynamics 08:42 Relatability and Family Reactions 11:39 Celebrating Women's Achievements 14:36 The Impact of Amanda's Book 17:20 Exploring the Book's Themes and Characters 20:19 Personal Experiences and Autobiographical Elements 23:09 Confronting Religious Trauma and Purity Culture 26:17 The Journey of Deconstruction 29:02 The Role of Grief in Faith and Identity 32:17 Navigating Expectations and Realities of Marriage 35:05 Navigating Trauma and Expectations in Relationships 37:35 The Struggles of Grief and Infertility 40:39 Understanding Grief: A Non-Linear Journey 41:01 Friendship and Shared Experiences in Grief 44:02 Pop Culture and Its Influence on Faith 48:33 Music as a Bridge to New Cultures 53:58 Deconstructing Faith and Cultural Norms 59:58 The Impact of Literature on Personal Journeys 01:01:29 Pursuing Creative Writing: A New Chapter UseCode EMOTEN to save 10% on Eargasm Earplugs!    SWEMO www.instagram.com/theswemoguy www.youtube.com/@theswemoguy www.tiktok.com/@theswemoguy   THE NEVER A PHASENETWORK www.neveraphasenetwork.com www.instagram.com/neveraphasenetwork www.youtube.com/@neveraphasenetwork www.tiktok.com/@neveraphasenetwork

    1h 9m
  3. Never A Phase 8: Turn Two

    APR 10

    Never A Phase 8: Turn Two

    Join us for an in-depth conversation with pop punk band Turn Two as they break down their journey from the Jersey music scene to crafting their upcoming EP Never Meant to Fit. In this episode, we dive into their influences, songwriting process, and how they’re carving out a unique space in today’s emo revival movement. We explore the band’s origins, their collaborative creative process, and the real-life themes shaping their music including addiction, recovery, and personal growth. If you're into pop punk, emo revival, or discovering new indie bands pushing the genre forward, this is a must-listen. Turn Two represents the next wave of emo and pop punk, blending nostalgic influences with modern storytelling and raw authenticity. CHAPTERS 00:00 – Introduction to Turn Two and Their Journey06:46 – The Formation of Turn Two14:41 – Creating Darkest Days: A Collaborative Process20:10 – Themes of Addiction and Recovery in Lyrics23:43 – The Formation of the Band (Deeper Dive)27:12 – The Impact of the Jersey Music Scene32:15 – Camaraderie and Collaboration in Music37:01 – Creating the EP Never Meant to Fit42:46 – Recording Process and Production Insights46:41 – Musical Influences and New Directions49:33 – Excitement for New Music51:49 – Exploring Musical Diversity53:36 – Lightning Round: Fun Questions57:42 – Memorable Concert Experiences01:04:17 – Where to Find Turn Two UseCode EMOTEN to save 10% on Eargasm Earplugs!    SWEMO www.instagram.com/theswemoguy www.youtube.com/@theswemoguy www.tiktok.com/@theswemoguy   THE NEVER A PHASE NETWORK www.neveraphasenetwork.com www.instagram.com/neveraphasenetwork www.youtube.com/@neveraphasenetwork www.tiktok.com/@neveraphasenetwork

    1h 8m
  4. Never A Phase 7: When The Sun Sets

    MAR 20

    Never A Phase 7: When The Sun Sets

    IT'S THE YEAR OF THE DONUT! And the Big Donut Sponsored Band When the Sun Sets is here to talk to Swemo on the Never A Phase Podcast! In this interview, Zack Baumgartner from When the Sun Sets opens up about the band’s journey, why mental health matters in their music, and how the Chicago pop-punk scene keeps evolving. He also dives into how social media, strong community vibes, and how real, honest storytelling are helping indie bands carve out their place right now.Chapters 00:00 Introduction to the Podcast and Guest 02:36 The Band's Identity and Unique Merchandising 06:48 The Evolution of When the Sun Sets 13:39 Building Community in the Pop Punk Scene 18:39 Building Connections in the Music Scene 27:49 Mental Health Advocacy in Music 39:32 Future Aspirations and New Music 47:39 Navigating Music Distribution Challenges 53:03 Lightning Round: Fun Questions and Insights Use Code EMOTEN to save 10% on Eargasm Earplugs!    SWEMO www.instagram.com/emoeducation www.youtube.com/@theemoeducation www.tiktok.com/@ryanstrikesback   THE NEVER A PHASE NETWORK www.neveraphasenetwork.com www.instagram.com/neveraphasenetwork www.youtube.com/@neveraphasenetwork www.tiktok.com/@neveraphasenetwork From This Episode Hope for the Day - https://hopefortheday.org/ When the Sun Sets Official Website - https://whenthesunsetsband.com

    1 hr
  5. Never A Phase 6: Tokyo Rose

    MAR 6

    Never A Phase 6: Tokyo Rose

    This week on the Never A Phase Podcast, Swemo talks to Ryan Dominguez from Tokyo Rose. Ryan shares the band's journey from the Jersey punk scene to their recent reunion and new music. Discover insights into their musical evolution, scene connections, and the enduring spirit of DIY punk culture. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Tokyo Rose and Reunion 02:59 Band Lineup and Reunion Dynamics 06:18 The Creative Process Behind New Music 09:14 The Sound of 'Something Sweeter' 17:36 Navigating Musical Identity as an Asian American 32:11 The Jersey Music Scene: A Cultural Hub 38:03 Genre Blending: The Evolution of Music in Jersey 44:56 The Hiatus: Life Changes and Band Dynamics 53:51 Nostalgia and Legacy: Reflecting on Past Shows 58:37 The Future of Tokyo Rose: New Music and Directions Check out Tokyo Rose: Tokyo Rose on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/tokyorosenj/ Tokyo Rose on TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@tokyorosenj For more shows like this one visit NeverAPhaseNetwork.com Tokyo Rose, Jersey punk scene, reunion, new music, DIY punk, emo, pop punk, Warped Tour, scene history, musical evolution

    1h 5m

  6. FEB 27

    NAPNET Presents Deep Cuts: The Imperfect Dads Podcast welcomes Robb Laffoon

    Another edition of NAPNET Presents Deep Cuts, where we dig into the archives of your favorite NAPNET Podcasts and get another look at an episode you might have missed. In this episode of the Imperfect Dads podcast the show welcomes NAPNET's own Robb Laffoon, co-host of Emo Kids Anonymous. They explore the complexities of fatherhood, including the challenges of parenting a child with autism, the joys and trials of co-parenting, and the influence of music on their lives and identities. Rob shares personal anecdotes, including a harrowing experience with a DUI, and reflects on the lessons learned from his parenting journey. The discussion also touches on the importance of empathy in parenting and the excitement of watching children grow and develop their own interests.For this and more shows like it follow the Never A Phase Network on TikTok and Instagram and visit NeverAPhaseNetwork.com

    1h 9m
  7. Never A Phase 5: Good Night Moon

    FEB 20

    Never A Phase 5: Good Night Moon

    In this episode of the Never a Phase podcast, Swemo sits down with Rob of Good Night Moon to unpack a reunion that’s been more than 20 years in the making. Born out of a tight-knit group of high school friends in Florida’s early-2000s emo and pop-punk scene, the band quickly became part of a vibrant, inclusive local movement that helped shape a generation of alternative music. Now, after a 16-year hiatus, Good Night Moon is back. They are revisiting their roots with a newly recorded EP that reimagines their original songs through a modern production lens. Rob shares what it’s like to capture the essence of youth while navigating the realities of adulthood, distance, and today’s largely virtual recording process. From tracking parts remotely to reconnecting with their hometown scene, the reunion is both nostalgic and forward-looking. The conversation dives deep into the evolution of Florida’s music community, the lasting influence of the emo and pop-punk era, and how platforms like TikTok are reshaping music discovery for a new generation. Rob also opens up about the role music plays in mental health—“Music is my medicine”—and why the phrase “It was never a phase” still resonates louder than ever. Support the Show buy using the code EMO10 at check out when you buy Eargasm Earplugs The Never a Phase Podcast is a part of the Never A Phase Network. Follow us @NeverAPhaseNetwork on all social media and visit NeverAPhaseNetwork.com for more.

    52 min

  8. FEB 13

    NAPNET Presents Deep Cuts: EKA 006 /w Swemo

    In this episode throwback episode of Emo Kids Anonymous, hosts Amanda and Robb welcome their first guest, Ryan, AKA the Swemo Guy. The conversation delves into Ryan's background in the emo scene, his influence on TikTok, and the resurgence of emo culture. They explore the connections between Taylor Swift's music and emo influences, discussing her lyrical depth and emotional resonance. The discussion also highlights The 1975, Olivia Rodrigo, MGK, Demi Lovato, Poppy and Zach Bryan, and how modern pop continues to draw from emo the scene. The discussion also touches on the legacy of emo music and its impact on contemporary artists, highlighting the importance of vulnerability and authenticity in songwriting.00:00 Introduction to Emo Kids Anonymous 02:01 Ryan's Emo Journey and TikTok Influence 18:44 Exploring Emo Influences in Taylor Swift's Music 33:29 The 1975: An Emo Adjacent Band 39:03 Wrestling and Pop Culture References 44:54 Pop Punk Resurgence and Influences 01:01:14 Emo's Influence on Modern Pop 01:18:50 The Legacy of Emo in Music

    1h 30m
  9. Never A Phase 4: Further North

    FEB 6

    Never A Phase 4: Further North

    This week Swemo hangs with Further North for a real-deal, no-filter conversation about life as a Texas Pop-Punk band bring Sad Dad Rock to the masses. We talk about how the band grew up on MXPX, Relient K, and all the melodic, heart-on-sleeve stuff that made us want to start bands in the first place. Faith comes up a lot too. Their songs wrestle with light and dark, doubt and hope, and a lot of very real personal stories. Like every band of our era, they’re figuring out how to survive in a world where TikTok clips matter more than substance and everyone feels pressure to go viral just to stay visible. Behind the scenes, it’s band life stuff most people don’t see: juggling jobs and family, and trying to grow something sustainable. This year they’re pushing for bigger moves, including four Texas dates with Geena Fontanella. HIGHLIGHTS: 00:00 – Meet Further North & tour talk 06:00 – Band chemistry, rehearsals, and influences 12:00 – Faith, lyrics, and personal storytelling 19:00 – Nostalgia, local scenes, and growing up on pop punk 32:00 – Social media, content pressure, and staying authentic 45:00 – Planning the future, touring, and going international 55:00 – Supporting new bands & building community 01:10:00 – Parenting, punk values, and lightning round Listen to Further North on Spotify This show is a part of the Never A Phase Network. For more info on ours shows and creators visit NeverAPhaseNetwork.Com This show is brought to you by Eargasm Earplugs. Use code EMO10 to save 10%.

    1h 26m
  10. Never A Phase 3: Betty Mauritz from Gold Steps

    JAN 23

    Never A Phase 3: Betty Mauritz from Gold Steps

    In this engaging conversation, Ryan Styles interviews Betty Mauritz of Gold Steps, exploring the band's journey from their beginnings in Austin, Texas, to their current success in Milwaukee. They discuss the challenges and triumphs of being a pop punk band, the influence of other bands, and the personal growth and resilience required to thrive in the music industry. Betty shares insights into their songwriting process, the impact of their music, and their plans for the future, including new releases and tours. 00:00:02 Introduction and Band Origins00:00:32 Musical Influences and Style00:00:54 Challenges and Resilience00:01:02 Personal Growth and Songwriting00:01:28 Balancing Life and Music00:01:57 Future Plans and ReleasesLISTEN TO GOLD STEPS BUY EARGASM EARGLUGS Gold Steps, pop punk, Milwaukee music scene, Betty Moritz, songwriting, band journey, music industry, new releases, tours

    1h 27m
  11. Never A Phase Podcast 2: My Side of Paradise

    11/21/2025

    Never A Phase Podcast 2: My Side of Paradise

    In this conversation, Swemo interviews the band My Side of Paradise, who transitioned from a cover band called Emo Kids to creating original music. They discuss their journey, the writing process, and their collaboration with Jaret Reddick from Bowling for Soup. The band reflects on the themes of their new single 'All My Exes', the impact of social media on the music industry, and the challenges of being a musician in today's world. In this engaging conversation, the members of Emo Kids discuss their unique blend of nostalgia and modern influences in the emo music scene. They explore the significance of the emo revival, the connections being made across generations, and the party atmosphere at their shows. The discussion touches on authenticity within the emo scene, the dynamics of setlists, and the reactions to deep cuts. They also share their favorite venues, the cultural significance of food like In-N-Out, and the impact of emo music on new generations. The conversation concludes with insights into their original music project, My Side of Paradise, and their aspirations for the future.

    1h 13m
  12. Never A Phase 1: glimmers

    09/26/2025

    Never A Phase 1: glimmers

    In this engaging conversation, Ryan Styles interviews the Atlanta-based band Glimmers, known for their unique Rom-Com Pop Rock sound. The band discusses their journey from solo projects to collaboration, the impact of life changes on their dynamics, and their decision to release a full-length album, The Art of Shattering coming November 7th. We delve into the complexities of the music industry, particularly focusing on the challenges faced by female artists. They discuss the impact of their song 'Jaded', the comparisons to Hayley Williams and Paramore, and the backlash they received from fans. The conversation highlights the importance of solidarity among female artists, as well as the struggles of navigating social media as a woman in the music scene. The episode concludes with a fun Q&A session, showcasing the lighter side of being in a band. Pre-Save the Art of Shattering 00:00 Introduction to Glimmers: The Band and Their Sound 03:05 The Formation of Glimmers: From Solo to Band 06:12 Navigating Life and Music: Challenges and Changes 09:59 The Decision to Release a Full-Length Album 15:34 Theater Influence: How Broadway Shapes Their Music 23:01 Coming of Age: Themes in Their Music 29:21 Musical Inspirations: The Roots of Their Passion 32:16 The Recording Process of 'The Art of Shattering' 42:25 Addressing Comparisons in the Music Scene 51:43 Dealing with Backlash and Misunderstandings 58:18 Collaboration and Support in the Music Community 01:06:56 Rapid Fire Q&A with Glimmers

    1h 20m
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Never A Phase Network: Each episode, The Swemo Guy sits down with friends from across the scene to talk about their history with the music we love, as well as the current Hot Topics shaping the future of the genre. We end the show with a lightning round of questions about popular scene debates, band life, food on the road, and more.

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  • Creator
    Never A Phase Network
  • Years Active
    2025 - 2026
  • Episodes
    12
  • Rating
    Explicit
  • Copyright
    © Never A Phase Network
  • Show Website
    Never A Phase Podcast