This is the type of podcast you want to absorb every single word being said (and in my case, take notes on every single word!). Melea and Jack do a really good job concisely explaining important, deep, too-little-talked-about topics of the enneagram and framing the confusions of the enneagram in an understandable and applicable way. They use helpful examples to explain the types and how they relate to each other. That being said, this is a podcast for learners, those who actually want to learn and apply the enneagram. It is not the kind of podcast you just put on in the background, but one that has such high quality content that demands attention because it is worth your attention. The hosts are down-to-earth people that want to hear from their listeners. They have a very cool instagram account (@notmytypeenneagram) where they post helpful overviews of the information from their episodes and are always asking their listeners what they want to hear about next. This podcast is of high quality both content wise and in production, sound etc. You should give it a listen!