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Nine Tree Studios

A podcast series with and for creatives. It’s about the creative moments you didn’t know you missed. It’s about the space between ideas, and the highs and lows that shape creative work. Our guests are from across disciplines, sharing their approach to creativity from the worlds of film, music, design, business, food and art.

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  1. #005 - Kate Lenton on 'brand agency CEO' to 'forensic art psychotherapist'

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    #005 - Kate Lenton on 'brand agency CEO' to 'forensic art psychotherapist'

    We sit down with Kate Lenton to explore a radical career pivot that moves from the pursuit of commercial perfection to the messy, transformative power of art psychotherapy. After twenty years in the design industry - culminating in running a successful branding agency - Kate experienced a moment of clarity during the pandemic. She realised she was managing business logistics rather than facilitating creativity, leading her to retrain as an art psychotherapist in her mid-forties. The conversation delves deep into the friction between the education system and creative development. Kate highlights the alarming pipeline from school exclusion to the justice system, particularly for young men who struggle with the rigid "sit and be quiet" structure of modern schooling. She believes that creativity is not merely an aesthetic pursuit but a vital tool for emotional regulation and communication, especially for those who find verbal expression difficult. We also discuss her work in forensic settings, the importance of "holding space" in male prisons, and her role as Chair of Talk Club, a charity dedicated to men's mental fitness. This serves as a masterclass on why we must decouple creativity from the pressure of productivity and return to the act of play. #artpsychotherapy #mentalhealthawareness #creativestrategy #educationreform #forensicpsychology #careerpivot #designthinking #mensmentalhealth #talkclub #neurodiversity

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  2. #003 - Calum "Pie King" Franklin on culinary design, The Pie Room, and that 'King' label

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    #003 - Calum "Pie King" Franklin on culinary design, The Pie Room, and that 'King' label

    Calum Franklin discusses his journey from the high-pressure world of Michelin-starred fine dining to becoming the face of the British pie renaissance. Dubbed the "Pie King" by Jamie Oliver, Calum explains why he prefers the title Pie Man, and how discovering an antique pie tin in a basement sparked an obsession with a 600-year-old culinary craft. He argues that pie-making is a form of design rather than art - because food should never be confusing. Rather than looking to farmyards for inspiration, Calum draws from London architecture and historical objects found while mudlarking in the Thames, including a Freemason coin that directly influenced the structure of one of his signature dishes. We explore the creation of The Pie Room, a space designed to immerse chefs in detail, and Calum shares why he often struggles to enjoy his finished creations despite loving the process itself. Reflecting on lessons learned from Noma, he explains why the reception desk is the most important part of any restaurant and why hospitality must always come before profitability. Calum also opens up about his past struggles with alcoholism, the need for a softer landing within the industry, and offers honest advice to young chefs about travelling, taking risks, and stepping outside their comfort zones. And finally, his most reassuring takeaway of all: if you can drive a car, you can make a pie.

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  3. #002 - Alex Rodrigues on "The Audience Sucks," Channel 4’s digital shift, and the hunter-gatherer theory of content

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    #002 - Alex Rodrigues on "The Audience Sucks," Channel 4’s digital shift, and the hunter-gatherer theory of content

    Alex Rodrigues on "The Audience Sucks," Channel 4’s digital shift, and the hunter-gatherer theory of content. Producer and director Alex Rodrigues discusses his role in driving digital innovation at Channel 4, and the challenge of transforming a legacy broadcaster into the UK’s first digital public service broadcaster. Alex explains how he approaches a rapidly changing industry by translating the texture of traditional television into a language that speaks authentically to digital audiences. He outlines his gunter-gatherer theory of content, which suggests humans are hardwired to choose familiar ideas - like safe berries - over radical reinvention. From this, he argues that creators should aim for familiarity with a twist, and introduces the Regret Test as a true measure of success - ensuring the audience never regrets the time they spent consuming the work. We discuss why consistency beats quality when starting out, and how maintaining output flow is essential for staying visible within algorithms. Alex reframes the idea of format, not as complex structure, but as the repeated and reliable delivery of value, and explains why production value matters far less than clear, simple storytelling. The conversation also explores the shift from generic presenters to authentic experts, the difference between using short-form video for discovery versus long-form for brand building, and the origins of his newsletter "The Audience Sucks", created to break down industry gatekeeping. Finally, Alex reflects on why - if he had to start again - he might choose to become a monk.

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A podcast series with and for creatives. It’s about the creative moments you didn’t know you missed. It’s about the space between ideas, and the highs and lows that shape creative work. Our guests are from across disciplines, sharing their approach to creativity from the worlds of film, music, design, business, food and art.