Off The Couch

Off The Couch Ft. Cheryl Hurst, LCSW-R NYS

That podcast you've been waiting for that explores the intersections of manhood, masculinity, relationships, mental health, and even current events in communities of color. Hosted by a dynamic duo of thoughtful NYC social workers who keep it real & who will keep you thinking and even smiling. Listen once, listen twice & join us for the ride.

  1. APR 9

    OTC Episode 14: Socialization, Accountability, and Healing with Special Guest Timothy Moore, The Clarity Doctor

    In this episode, Cheryl and Albery bridge the gap between clinical therapy and grassroots community action. We dive into the reality of being a Black men and men in general in 2026, comparing the socialization shifts we’ve seen since 2020 and exploring how we can hold space for accountability without exile. We are joined by author, writer, and speaker Timothy Moore, to move beyond the mask men wear and start building the blueprint for collective healing. In this episode, we discuss: Emotional Literacy: Empowering men to find and develop the specific emotional language for their lived experiences. The 2026 Provider Myth: How the "financial provider" script is evolving (and sometimes harming) in a shifting economy. Accountability & Restoration: How a community-based response can address men who have caused harm while still offering a path to healing. Digital Fatherhood/Mentorship: Navigating the "algorithm" and reclaiming mentorship in an age of social media influence. Whether you are a therapist, an organizer, or a brother looking for a space to breathe, this episode is for you. It’s time to take the conversation off the couch and into the world. Connect with Off the Couch: Instagram: @OffTheCouchPod Follow & Subscribe: Don't miss our upcoming video series for Domestic Violence Awareness Month this October. About Our Guest:Timothy Moore is a dedicated community organizer focusing on the mental health and socialization of Black men, creating spaces for vulnerability and growth around the country. Connect with Timothy Moore: https://www.theclaritydoctor.com/ theclaritydoctor@gmail.com

    46 min
  2. JAN 26

    OTC Episode 13 | Ai on the Couch: Is AI Therapy a new Breakthrough or a Breach?

    Can ai chatbots truly hold space for your mental health? This episode , AL and Cheryl tackle the complex, rapidly evolving world of AI in mental health. Following a series of bombshell exposés from 404 Media (PLEASE show them love) and TIME, we’re diving into the ethical "edges" of technology—from AI bots impersonating licensed professionals to the dangerous ways these systems can fail in a crisis. We explore the tension between the desperate need for mental health accessibility and the risk of lowering our standards for human connection. Is AI a helpful tool for overworked social workers, or are we handing the keys to our mental well-being over to un-regulated algorithms? In this episode, we discuss: The Ethical Issue with ai: Unpacking the FTC complaints against Meta and Character.AI bots claiming to be licensed therapists. The "Music Industry" Parallel: Are we lowering our standards for in therapy just for the sake of convenience? Safety Failures: Discussing the TIME investigation where bots suggested romance or violence to a simulated teen. The Silver Lining: How human-AI collaboration can assist social workers and therapist handle administrative task efficiently The Verdict: Why AI can be an adjunct to care, but can never replace the relational depth of a human therapist. Resources Mentioned: 404 Media: "AI Therapy Bots Are Conducting 'Illegal Behavior'" https://www.404media.co/ai-therapy-bots-meta-character-ai-ftc-complaint/?utm_source=chatgpt.com TIME Magazine: Investigation into AI Safety Protocols https://time.com/7291048/ai-chatbot-therapy-kids/?utm_source=chatgpt.com APA Monitor: Psychology Embracing AI (Guidelines & Ethics) https://www.apaservices.org/practice/business/technology/tech-101/evaluating-artificial-intelligence-tool?utm_source=apa.org&utm_medium=referral&utm_content=/search Off the Couch Reflection: Would you use an AI chatbot for mental health support? Why or why not? We want to hear your thoughts—join the conversation on our social channels or leave a comment! Connect with Us! Find us on @: offthecouch_ac on Instagram! #Psychology #MentalHealthInnovation #SocialWorkEthics #AI #DigitalHealth #OffTheCouchPodcast

    43 min
  3. 06/08/2025

    OTC Episode 12: State of Social Work/Mental Health in 2025

    In this episode of Off the Couch, AL and Cheryl reflect on the current state of social work and mental health in 2025. They explore how recent political developments — particularly efforts by the current U.S. administration to dismantle Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) policies — are shaping the future of therapy, mental health services, and social work practice. The conversation is sparked by the American Psychological Association’s recent decision to drop DEI requirements for accredited psychology training programs, raising serious questions about the direction of the mental health field. AL and Cheryl examine the implications of this shift, especially for aspiring therapists, social workers of color, and marginalized communities. The hosts also reflect on the evolution of mental health in mainstream culture — including the growing acceptance of therapy, the visibility of mental health in media, and celebrity advocacy. At the same time, they discuss persistent challenges such as low pay, high burnout rates, budget cuts, and the emotional toll on practitioners. To close, they offer advice and words of encouragement for aspiring social workers and mental health professionals navigating this complex and ever-changing landscape. 🎧 Topics Covered: Mental health and politics in 2025 Burnout in social work APA policy changes Navigating the mental health field as a new clinician 📚 Resources mentioned in this episode: APA drops DEI requirements NASW Statements on U.S. Public Policies

    40 min
  4. 10/31/2024

    OTC Episode 11: DV pt II - Prevention, Intervention, and Community Action

    In this powerful episode of Off the Couch, hosts Albery and Cheryl continue to discuss the critical and complex topic of domestic violence (DV). They guide listeners through a sensitive yet essential conversation on the realities of DV and the steps everyone can take to help create safer communities. Starting with their own experiences learning about intervention and prevention efforts, the hosts explore the various factors that often contribute to DV, including poverty, substance use, family trauma, and broader societal issues. They also highlight ways to get involved, such as bystander intervention, upstander actions, and the importance of educating oneself through reliable sources rather than internet myths. Listeners will gain insight into: Key warning signs of abusive relationships, for both survivors and perpetrators The roles of emotional, psychological, financial, and even spiritual abuse in DV dynamics Clinical interventions and resources available to both survivors and perpetrators, from shelters to therapeutic support With calls to stay informed, have conversations, and stand in solidarity with survivors, this episode empowers listeners to play an active role in DV prevention. If you or someone you know needs support, please remember the National Domestic Violence Hotline: 1-800-799-SAFE (7233). Let’s work together to support survivors and create a culture of accountability, awareness, and safety for all! #OfftheCouch #DV #Awareness#Month#2024

    43 min
  5. 10/17/2024

    OTC BONUS*: Men, Accountability, and Mental Health: Owning Up, Showing Up, and Self-Care

    In this bonus episode of Off the Couch , Co-host Cheryl and Albery explore the critical intersection of accountability and mental health for men. We start by defining what accountability means in everyday life, particularly for fathers and men in other roles. Accountability isn’t just about showing up—it’s also about owning the consequences of actions, repairing harm, and communicating when you’ve fallen short. Key discussion points: Defining Accountability: What does it mean to be accountable? How does it play out in men's roles within families, friendships, and communities? We’ll also dive into how men can be more consistent in showing up for their families and owning responsibilities like child support and shared tasks beyond financial provision. Who Men Need to Be Accountable To: Accountability extends beyond the self. We discuss how men are expected to show up for family, friends, spiritual communities, and most importantly, themselves. Barriers to Accountability: We explore why men struggle with accountability—whether it’s fear of losing masculine status, the reluctance to hold each other accountable, or ingrained beliefs that make self-care and accountability seem like opposites. Barriers to Self-Care: Many men engage in “manly” forms of self-care (e.g., overtraining, isolation), yet struggle with behaviors seen as “soft” or emotionally vulnerable. How does socialization around masculinity limit acts of self-love? Breaking Free from the “Man Box”: We’ll discuss societal pressure to uphold rigid masculine ideals and how this can conflict with the practice of self-care, including excuses like “not enough time” or “not enough money” for self-care. Please remember to like and share the podcast platform!

    28 min

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That podcast you've been waiting for that explores the intersections of manhood, masculinity, relationships, mental health, and even current events in communities of color. Hosted by a dynamic duo of thoughtful NYC social workers who keep it real & who will keep you thinking and even smiling. Listen once, listen twice & join us for the ride.