Ohio Counseling Conversations

Ohio Counseling Association

The official Ohio Counseling Association podcast. Our mission is to host experts from our membership, leadership, and throughout the counseling field to bring listeners relevant conversations around what it means to be a counselor in Ohio. In addition, this podcast will provide a platform for Ohio Counseling Association divisions, chapters, and committees to share information and updates. Made for counselors by counselors, we hope to highlight important conversations in the profession that will inform our work as we continue to grow as professionals and as people. Thank you for tuning in! Views, beliefs, or references mentioned in episodes do not constitute an endorsement or recommendation by the Ohio Counseling Association. The views expressed by guests are their own and their appearance on the program does not imply an endorsement of them or any entity they represent. Views and opinions expressed by guests do not necessarily reflect the view of the Ohio Counseling Association or any of its officials.

  1. 4D AGO

    Conversation 39 - Motivational Interviewing for Staying Grounded When Headlines Aren't...

    Send a text When the headlines won’t quit and the room feels charged, how do we stay grounded, ethical, and genuinely helpful? We sit down with counselor educator and MI trainer Kim Barrella to explore motivational interviewing as more than a technique—it’s a way of being that centers autonomy, partnership, and compassion, even when politics enter the session. Together, we unpack how MI helps clients and clinicians navigate anger, fatigue, and moral distress without slipping into persuasion or avoidance. Kim shares how complex reflections and thoughtful summaries can transform ambivalence—from “I’m stuck” to “I have choices”—and why that shift matters for LGBTQIA+ clients facing policy pressure and minority stress. We talk about aligning our work with shared ethical codes while protecting client trust, and how MI naturally complements modalities like CBT, DBT, and EMDR. You’ll hear practical language for real scenarios: responding to polarization in session, handling direct questions about your views, and finding sustainable actions when doomscrolling drains your energy. This conversation also moves beyond the therapy hour. We explore using MI in supervision and leadership, naming the push-pull of advocacy, and building resilience through small, values-aligned steps. If you’ve been craving a clearer path through uncertainty—one that honors dignity, reduces burnout, and keeps the focus where it belongs—this episode offers tools and encouragement to carry into your next session. If this resonates, share it with a colleague, subscribe for more thoughtful conversations, and leave a review to help others find the show. What MI move helps you stay present when the world feels loud? Resources  from the episode: https://www.facebook.com/NavigateCounselingandConsultation https://www.instagram.com/navigate_counseling/ https://www.navigatecounseling.org/ OCA Link Tree: https://linktr.ee/ohiocounseling Connect with Us on Any/All Socials at our Link Tree! If you’re a counselor in Ohio and would like to get involved as part of production or as a guest, or know someone who might be interested, please email us at ohiocounselingconversations@gmail.com! **** Created by the OCA's Media, Public Relations, and Membership (MPRM) Committee & its Podcast Subcommittee ·Hosted by Marisa Cargill ·Pre-Production & Coordination by Marisa Cargill & Victoria Frazier ·Editing by Marisa Cargill ·Original music selections by Elijah Satoru Wood

    1h 14m
  2. Couch to Capitol: February 2026 Legislative Updates

    FEB 24

    Couch to Capitol: February 2026 Legislative Updates

    Send a text Policy moved fast this month, and we break it down so you can protect clients and plan your next steps with confidence. From real wins on Medicare telehealth to high‑stakes proposals that could reshape LGBTQ care and counselor ethics, we connect the dots between statutes, board guidance, and day‑to‑day practice in Ohio. We start with clarity on the Consolidated Appropriations Act that extends Medicare telehealth protections through December 31, 2027, including the in‑person visit waiver for behavioral health and broader geographic flexibility. You’ll hear concrete tips for 2028 readiness, like tagging clients who began services on or before January 30, 2026, to minimize disruption if requirements tighten. Then we track competing Ohio immigration enforcement packages—one limiting ICE access to sensitive locations and data sharing, the other banning sanctuary policies and compelling hospitals and mental health centers to admit federal agents, with possible funding penalties. We outline how HIPAA and confidentiality still apply and share steps for policy, training, and legal consultation so front desks and clinicians are prepared. Next, we examine Ohio’s local conversion therapy bans and why House Bill 693 could undercut those protections while restricting gender‑affirming practice for minors and penalizing licenses. We anchor the conversation in the ethical consensus from ACA, APA, AAP, and AACAP that attempts to change sexual orientation or gender identity cause harm. At the federal level, we explain proposed CMS rules that target gender‑affirming medical care for minors and the active litigation timeline, including a spring hearing and interim guidance expected by June 1, 2026. Counseling and talk therapy aren’t directly restricted, but the mental health ripple effects are real—so we offer practical communication points for families and documentation tips grounded in evidence-based care. We also update students and educators on CACREP’s revised Policy A2E, which requires in‑person, synchronous skill and disposition assessments in all accredited programs, including online, at least twice with one before practicum. Finally, we make space for clinician wellbeing, sharing tangible ways to use supervision, peer consultation, and community care to stay steady under pressure. Subscribe, share this with a colleague, and leave a review to help more Ohio counselors find these monthly briefings. Your work matters—and we’re here to keep you informed, resourced, and ready. Resources Mentioned on the Episode: February 2026 References & Show Notes: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PJShWrc-mfo5huLntyZa9lOnt0iGGw0Ox9gKIVKKiNA/edit?usp=sharing ***** Connect with Us on Any or All Socials at our Link Tree! OCA Link Tree: https://linktr.ee/ohiocounselingCreated by the OCA's Media, Public Relations, and Membership (MPRM) Committee & its Podcast Subcommittee ·Hosted by Mariah Payne ·Pre-Production & Coordination by Marisa Cargill, Victoria Frazier, Mariah Payne, and Chase Morgan-Swaney ·Editing by Marisa Cargill

    16 min
  3. Let's Unpack That #8: Slow Work in a Fast Feed: Counseling in the Age of Social Media

    FEB 17

    Let's Unpack That #8: Slow Work in a Fast Feed: Counseling in the Age of Social Media

    Send a text Your feed offers endless tips, bold diagnoses, and confident scripts—but what happens when all that noise walks into the therapy room? We dig into the real-world impact of mental health content on client expectations, counselor boundaries, and the ethics of showing up online. With guest counselor Lauren Collins-Knight, we examine the tension between short-form advice and the slow, relational work that actually changes behavior. We talk candidly about “I already saw that on Instagram,” the pressure to deliver novelty, and the client fear of not being “sick enough” to deserve care. From DSM worries to the weekly surge of buzzwords, we share ways to re-center clients: explain levels of care, treat diagnosis as a living description, and translate symptoms within context. We look at the upside, too—lowered stigma, easier access to resources, and advocacy that travels faster than any brochure—without glossing over parasocial risks and the thin line between educator and influencer. If you post professionally, you’ll appreciate our grounded take on ACA ethics, especially Section H: why separate profiles matter, how to write clear boundaries into your bio, and what informed consent should say about digital communication. We also offer a practical tool clients love—the 1% change framework—which shrinks goals to something doable this week and turns inspiration into habit. Whether you’re a clinician refining your online presence or a listener sorting signal from noise in your own feed, you’ll leave with language, structure, and next steps that respect both care and context. If this conversation helped you think differently about counseling online, subscribe, share with a colleague, and leave a review to help others find the show. What’s your 1% change for the week? What do you think? Send us your questions or topics you'd like us to unpack! OCA Link Tree: https://linktr.ee/ohiocounseling Connect with Us on Any/All Socials at our Link Tree! **** If you’re a counselor in Ohio and would like to get involved as part of production or as a guest, or know someone who might be interested, please email us at ohiocounselingconversations@gmail.com! **** Created by the OCA's Media, Public Relations, and Membership (MPRM) Committee & its Podcast Subcommittee ·Hosted by Victoria Frazier ·Pre-Production & Coordination by Marisa Cargill and Victoria Frazier ·Editing by Marisa Cargill ·Original music selections by Elijah Satoru Wood

    21 min
  4. FEB 10

    Conversation 38 - From High Control to Healing: Navigating Cultic Trauma

    Send a text Certainty can feel like safety, especially when life hurts. Our conversation with Laura Dunson Caputo, an assistant professor and trauma counselor, and Alexis Gilan, a newly licensed clinician whose research centers on cultic dynamics, digs into how high-control groups trade belonging for obedience and why that bargain is so hard to recognize from the inside. Rather than chasing sensational headlines, we map the real mechanics: centralized, unquestionable authority, conditional acceptance, and morality framed in stark binaries that erode agency and redefine identity from the outside in. We walk through the subtle ways this trauma shows up after someone leaves. Hierarchies can feel comfortingly familiar, fawn responses masquerade as “being good,” and choices feel threatening instead of freeing. We talk about the nonlinearity of healing—waves of clarity and doubt—and why quick fixes and premature forgiveness are just another form of pressure. For clinicians, we unpack blind spots from religious socialization to cultural normalization, plus the risk of turning therapy into a new control system. Practical steps include explicit consent and transparency, curiosity-driven questions, and motivational interviewing skills that avoid rescuing and return power to the client. You’ll also hear concrete signs to watch for—needing permission to attend sessions, access restrictions, obedience language, moral rigidity, and diffuse trauma without a single precipitating event—along with the growing role of social media, Discord, and YouTube in modern recruitment. We highlight creative modalities like art therapy and the therapeutic relationship as a safe lab where clients practice saying no, disagreeing, and staying in connection. Beyond the therapy room, we challenge hyper‑individualism and make the case for community care that offers belonging without coercion. If this conversation resonates, subscribe, share it with a colleague, and leave a review to help more listeners find thoughtful guidance on cultic trauma, ethical care, and rebuilding agency. OCA Link Tree: https://linktr.ee/ohiocounseling Connect with Us Stay in touch and join the conversation: Instagram: @OhioCounselingFacebook: facebook.com/ohiocounselingLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ohio-counseling-association-b78256165/**** If you’re a counselor in Ohio and would like to get involved as part of production or as a guest, or know someone who might be interested, please email us at ohiocounselingconversations@gmail.com! **** Created by the OCA's Media, Public Relations, and Membership (MPRM) Committee & its Podcast Subcommittee ·Hosted by Victoria Frazier ·Pre-Production & Coordination by Marisa Cargill & Victoria Frazier ·Editing by Marisa Cargill ·Original music selections by Elijah Satoru Wood

    53 min
  5. Couch to Capitol: January 2026 Legislative Updates

    JAN 27

    Couch to Capitol: January 2026 Legislative Updates

    Send a text We share major wins and warnings for Ohio counselors: streamlined licensure, a new path to cross-state practice, civil rights amendments with clinical stakes, a brief but chilling federal funding scare, and a push to document insurer barriers that block care. We close with a reminder to seek support, protect your capacity, and stay engaged. • new single-exam pathway from LPC to LPCC and required supervision documentation • counseling compact launch and steps to apply for privileges in Arizona and Minnesota • equal rights and marriage amendments with mental health implications • federal grant termination letters and fast reversal after bipartisan pressure • how to submit insurer delay and denial examples to support provider-friendly bills • self-care, supervision, and peer support as professional necessities Subscribe, share with a colleague, and send us your questions or examples. Your voice drives access, equity, and the future of counseling in Ohio. Resources Mentioned on the Episode: https://cswmft.ohio.gov/about-the-board/news-and-events/news/counseling_licensure_exam_changehttps://www.counseling.org/publications/media-center/article/2026/01/05/ohio-becomes-the-3rd-state-to-grant-counseling-compact-privileges?utm_source=informz&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Newsletter_TLP_Jan15_2026&_zs=Hvx8D1&_zl=PKHx7http://www.ohioequalrights.orgInsurance Advocacy Survey / Resources: Take the survey: https://lnkd.in/eAK5hN3EReview common insurance abuses before starting: https://lnkd.in/eaZWYxxhTip: Please gather any relevant documentation or letters before beginning the survey. Even one documented example can make a difference for our lobbyists.Stay in touch and join the conversation: Instagram: @OhioCounselingFacebook: facebook.com/ohiocounselingLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ohio-counseling-association-b78256165/Created by the OCA's Media, Public Relations, and Membership (MPRM) Committee & its Podcast Subcommittee ·Hosted by Victoria Frazier ·Pre-Production & Coordination by Marisa Cargill, Victoria Frazier, Mariah Payne, and Chase Morgan-Swaney ·Editing by Marisa Cargill

    12 min
  6. Let's Unpack That #7: Metaphorically Speaking

    JAN 13

    Let's Unpack That #7: Metaphorically Speaking

    Send a text We share the metaphors that help clients grasp complex ideas fast, from skill trees and storm shelters to gumballs and garden care. We focus on choosing images that fit culture, age, and context so insights translate into action. • coping as skill trees and gym habits • grief as a ball in a box with changing hits • safety and boundaries with weather and field conditions • attachment styles with gumballs and trades • relationships as the ultimate group project • dropping the backpack of bricks and updating toolboxes • avoidance as a messy room that still needs cleaning • recovery lessons from broken bones and rest • self-care as watering plants and choosing the right fence • picking metaphors that match client interests and backgrounds If it sparked something for you, share it with a colleague or drop us a line. We’d love to keep the conversation going. What do you think? Send us your questions or topics you'd like us to unpack! OCA Link Tree: https://linktr.ee/ohiocounseling Connect with Us Stay in touch and join the conversation: Instagram: @OhioCounselingFacebook: facebook.com/ohiocounselingLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ohio-counseling-association-b78256165/**** If you’re a counselor in Ohio and would like to get involved as part of production or as a guest, or know someone who might be interested, please email us at ohiocounselingconversations@gmail.com! **** Created by the OCA's Media, Public Relations, and Membership (MPRM) Committee & its Podcast Subcommittee ·Hosted by Marisa Cargill & Victoria Frazier ·Pre-Production & Coordination by Marisa Cargill and Victoria Frazier ·Editing by Marisa Cargill ·Original music selections by Elijah Satoru Wood

    28 min
  7. Couch to Capitol: December Legislative Updates & Year-End Recap

    12/23/2025

    Couch to Capitol: December Legislative Updates & Year-End Recap

    Send a text Laws and budgets rewired the counseling landscape this year, and the ripple effects reached every waiting room in Ohio. We unpack what changed, what stalled, and where small advocacy moves can still flip outcomes—especially around parity, youth privacy, LGBTQ protections, and the counseling workforce pipeline. We start with the three forces that kept shaping care: access as infrastructure, higher education as the pipeline, and culture-war policy as clinical reality. From the federal pause on enforcing the MHPAEA Final Rule to Ohio bills that would narrow minors’ confidential access, we connect the dots between committee rooms and client sessions. You’ll hear clear updates on House Bills 172, 162, 390, 415, 324, and 249; the status of the Counseling Compact and why implementation timing matters; and how budget decisions affected libraries, shelters serving trans and non-binary youth, and coverage for gender-affirming care. We also chart the impact of Medicaid proposals, SNAP stability, and payment reforms that determine whether practices can keep doors open. We dig into telehealth flexibilities during the federal shutdown, the end of specialized 988 support for LGBTQ youth, and why misinformation around school screenings and reproductive health fuels shame and avoidance. On the horizon: proposed federal loan caps for non-doctoral graduate programs set to reshape who can afford a CACREP-aligned counseling degree and who gets left on a waitlist. Throughout, we translate policy into practice—what it means for denials, documentation, caseloads, and the trust needed to do effective therapy. Walk away with a focused watchlist for 2026: parity enforcement, insurer practices, telehealth stability, youth confidentiality, affirming care protections, Medicaid policy, and student loan rules. Subscribe, share with a colleague who needs the quick policy download, and leave a review telling us the top policy you want us to track next. Resources: https://www.counseling.org/advocacy/take-actionhttps://ohiocounseling.org/legislative-advocacyhttps://www.legislature.ohio.gov/legislation/status-reportsOCA Link Tree: https://linktr.ee/ohiocounseling Stay in touch and join the conversation: Instagram: @OhioCounselingFacebook: facebook.com/ohiocounselingLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ohio-counseling-association-b78256165/Created by the OCA's Media, Public Relations, and Membership (MPRM) Committee & its Podcast Subcommittee ·Hosted by Dr. Chase Morgan-Swaney ·Pre-Production & Coordination by Marisa Cargill, Victoria Frazier, Mariah Payne, and Chase Morgan-Swaney ·Editing by Marisa Cargill

    14 min
  8. Let's Unpack That #6: Unpack or Put it Back - Rules to Bend, Break, or Follow

    12/17/2025

    Let's Unpack That #6: Unpack or Put it Back - Rules to Bend, Break, or Follow

    Send a text We play Unpack or Put It Back to test “therapy rules” against context, ethics and real human needs. From snacks and coffee tables to hugs, swearing and self disclosure, we explain how intention and relationship guide what helps and what harms. • modeling self care with snacks and breaks  • room design signals safety and collaboration  • measured praise that scaffolds internal validation  • nuanced boundaries around hugs and comfort  • swearing as authentic language, not aggression  • thoughtful self disclosure to reduce shame  • accepting nominal gifts without role confusion  • authentic presence over blank slate posturing  • purposeful note taking and client preferences  • relatable dress to soften power dynamics  • movement sessions with informed consent  • clear CTA to keep the conversation going Feel free to drop us a line in the show notes or reach out to us on social media  If it sparks something for you, share it with a colleague or drop us a line. We’d love to keep the conversation going. What do you think? Send us your questions or topics you'd like us to unpack! OCA Link Tree: https://linktr.ee/ohiocounseling Connect with Us Stay in touch and join the conversation: Instagram: @OhioCounselingFacebook: facebook.com/ohiocounselingLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ohio-counseling-association-b78256165/**** If you’re a counselor in Ohio and would like to get involved as part of production or as a guest, or know someone who might be interested, please email us at ohiocounselingconversations@gmail.com! **** Created by the OCA's Media, Public Relations, and Membership (MPRM) Committee & its Podcast Subcommittee ·Hosted by Marisa Cargill & Victoria Frazier ·Pre-Production & Coordination by Marisa Cargill and Victoria Frazier ·Editing by Leah Wood & Marisa Cargill ·Original music selections by Elijah Satoru Wood

    41 min

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5
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The official Ohio Counseling Association podcast. Our mission is to host experts from our membership, leadership, and throughout the counseling field to bring listeners relevant conversations around what it means to be a counselor in Ohio. In addition, this podcast will provide a platform for Ohio Counseling Association divisions, chapters, and committees to share information and updates. Made for counselors by counselors, we hope to highlight important conversations in the profession that will inform our work as we continue to grow as professionals and as people. Thank you for tuning in! Views, beliefs, or references mentioned in episodes do not constitute an endorsement or recommendation by the Ohio Counseling Association. The views expressed by guests are their own and their appearance on the program does not imply an endorsement of them or any entity they represent. Views and opinions expressed by guests do not necessarily reflect the view of the Ohio Counseling Association or any of its officials.