One Big Fire

Jay Kinder and Albie Stasek

So the big question is… How are agents like us… who didn’t get an opportunity to invest in a franchise early … who are spending time and money to sale homes building someone else a saleable asset… how do we grow our business, but still build wealth and get a piece of the pie that’s not dependent on us working more hours… that is the question and this podcast will give you the answers… The best life to live is a life by strategy. Not by your next transaction.

  1. MAY 16

    What If This Is the New Normal? | Real Estate Shifts, eXp’s NextHome Move & Jay Kinder’s Ayahuasca Journey

    In this powerful episode of the One Big Fire Podcast, we tackle one of the biggest questions in real estate right now: What if the market isn’t “coming back” — what if this IS the new normal? With home sales stuck near 30-year lows, agents waiting for another 2021 may be waiting forever. We break down what today’s market really demands from agents, teams, and leaders — from mastering marketing and lead generation to building systems that thrive in uncertainty. Inside this episode: Why 4 million home sales may be the new reality The hard lessons learned from the 2008 crash Why buyers are returning as rates dip The launch of HoneyBadger Lending and a new alignment model for agents eXp Realty’s acquisition of NextHome and what it means for franchise owners Why “agent-centric” business models are winning The future of ecosystems, AI, and brokerage models Funnel Pilot momentum and how agents can “get a ticket to the dance” Then the conversation takes a deeply personal turn. Jay Kinder opens up about his recent ayahuasca experience, sharing profound reflections on purpose, faith, empathy, leadership, and what it means to truly grow as a human being. From business pressure to spiritual clarity, this may be one of the most honest and vulnerable conversations ever shared on the podcast. This episode is about more than real estate.It’s about reinvention, resilience, and reconnecting with what really matters. 🔥 “You’re not a businessman… you ARE the business.” 🔥

    1h 10m
  2. APR 14

    Real Estate in 2029 Will Be Unrecognizable | AI, OpenClaw, Agentic Workflows & What’s Coming Next

    What will real estate look like in 2029? According to Jay and Al, it won’t look anything like it does today. In this episode of One Big Fire Podcast, the guys go deep on the future of AI, real estate, agentic workflows, and why the agents who adapt now will have a massive advantage over everyone still sitting on the sidelines. Jay breaks down what he’s learned after spending the last 30 days building with OpenClaw, setting up his own AI chief of staff, and discovering just how fast AI can eliminate busywork, automate systems, and multiply output across an entire business. From dashboards and follow-up workflows to content creation and team accountability, this conversation pulls back the curtain on what’s already possible right now. They also unpack the bigger picture: what happens when AI gets embedded into every part of the real estate ecosystem, how the industry could change over the next 36 months, and why the “marginal agent” may not survive what’s coming next. In this episode: Why real estate in 2029 may be almost unrecognizableWhat Jay learned from using OpenClaw for 30 daysHow agentic AI can function like a full-time chief of staffThe difference between using AI casually and building systems with itWhy waiting may make setup easier, but acting now creates the biggest edgeHow AI could reshape recruiting, follow-up, team management, and content creationWhy the next few years may thin the herd in real estateWhat top producers need to do now to stay relevantThis is not a fear-based conversation. It’s a wake-up call. The future isn’t coming. It’s already here.

    1h 7m

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So the big question is… How are agents like us… who didn’t get an opportunity to invest in a franchise early … who are spending time and money to sale homes building someone else a saleable asset… how do we grow our business, but still build wealth and get a piece of the pie that’s not dependent on us working more hours… that is the question and this podcast will give you the answers… The best life to live is a life by strategy. Not by your next transaction.

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